Where the club hits the ground is important. Also where the ball hits on the clubface is important. Missing the sweet spot toe or heel just a bit has a big effect on where the ball goes. Mike leaves that up to the student I guess.

I was a cynic until I tried it. It works. I've moved on to MORAD fundamentals now. I really couldnt give a fig about getting max distance or bragging rights about how short an iron I hit to a target. Unfortunately, most golfers obsess with that. You only need to see the videos here and the entire pitch of advertising to see that's true .... but S&T golfers, and those who seek control are a matured "more intelligent" bunch. lol

Hitting the same spot on the ground with every swing, would make anybody a better player. Look at the practice debits of any really good players. They move backwards with a swing and leave a perfect straight line of divots because they’re hitting the ground in front of the ball every time…… if you’re hitting the ball, fat or thin, the stack and tilt method is the answer - - get your weight on your left side swing back move hips forward laterally and your head goes backwards works every time

Thank you, grade explanation

If you're interested, check out Tom Saguto, the best S&T teacher I've found on the Web

Love the stack n tilt people laugh say its an old technique I shot an 84 he shot a 104 hhhhmmmm ill stack n tilt

I feel like this guy really enjoys what he does. Must be nice...

To date, I haven’t seen any of the consistently top winning tour players use this system.

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He looks like a very nice guy!!

00:50 Fred Couples, right?

nice thought certainly different than what has been suggested in hitting behind the ball. Will try this with a new swing thought for bunker play.

Came and went! Thank God

I'll tell you what links ( all these great players together) A God given TALENT & great hand - eye coordination. over 72 holes of competive play Stamina & full body conditioning is also a priceless asset.

I gave this stuff a serious try. now, who do I invoice my Chiropractor bill to?

This worked really well for me. So much better than thinking about hitting x number of inches behind the ball. Using external focus and giving yourself a task makes things much easier than thinking about where your hands, arms, etc should be during the swing. Thanks.

Is this the same swing that Jim Venetos teaches??

I have tried S&T. its been good with shorter clubs but as I get to 6 iron and above it just feels awkward.I still hit the ball with good accuracy albeit a bit lower like it's slightly thinned despite feeling uncomfortable with the swing. do you have the hands more forward and move the left hip more with the longer clubs ?

I have tried this and while it does seem to help with fat shots, I can't swing in to out with it. I always cut down across the ball even when I swing far to the inside on the backswing

Why are people always arguing about tour players using S&T? It doesn't matter. They aren't watching these videos. High-handicappers are watching these videos, and simplifying the swing to favor ball-striking consistency above all else is just plain smart.

I think this is a good way to develope a lower back injury, lower back injury is caused by moving the hips away from the target in the backswing and moving the hips towards the target in the downswing.

Where are the shafts made, China, USA or Japan. Which shaft would suit me 95-100mph club head speed. Looking for a smooth feel with distance and accuracy 70 gram shaft. I currently have a House of Forged and hit it 270 yds any suggestions. Cheers.

Tom Saguto Sean Foley has little involvement with Hunter Mahan. Mahan said" I was a good ballstriker when I went to Sean," Rose has dumped Foley. And TIger will never win another major until he changes his swing he will continue to hit the driver left as long he's being taught by Foley. Mike Weir an early advocate for S&T. Remember him ? A Foley comment. "You need to keep 55% of your weight on the left foot '. Not 52% or 58.5% ? Give us a break. When Tom Watson was asked who his golf coach was he said Byron Nelson when asked why he said "I don't take golf lessons from people I can beat". BTW Think Bubba Watson is a S&T guy?

What I caught up most from this is that mike says that the grip, the stance, the posture can't be classified as fundamentals because everyone is doing them differently... Well yes everyone is doing them differently, but listen to what youself said EVERYONE is doing them so they are fundamentals, you cant strike the ball good if you dont have good fundamentals, now they classified hitting the club in the same spot in the ground and hitting the ball further, well you cant do it if you have a bad grip a bad stance and a bad posture, not many guys on tour have bad posture or bad grip, the stance variets, but they are pros for a reson they practice... The average golfer dosen't, so now you take away all the things that makes tour players good and try to teach someting "different" to the average golfer... If tour players need good fundamentals, then at least the average golfder sure does as well...

Everyone talks about how S$T is losing favor, or it is a bad swing. Sean Foley teaches it and his players are among the best ball strikers on the tour. Aaron Baddeley used it and was as high as 17th in the world, without it he is in the 110 range. Mike and Andy studied the best golfers and put together a list of checkpoints that they thought would make people better and less frustrated.

It works for me. I use s&t from wedge thru 3 wood. No problem with low lofted clubs. Shifting weight to the right on backswing makes it difficult for me to hit solid shot off the turf. For driver, I move the ball more left.

Wrong Tom, none of these used S&T....but they do have one thing in common: The same impact position. The thing is though...they rotated back before they rotated onto it...not "static at it" as S&T suggests. Nicklaus confirms that resistance to hip rotation braced inside/against, a flexed right leg, created leverage to power the downswing through his legs. Shoulder turn does not do much...unless it is resisted by the hips. OOPS. sorry, I forgot...S&T does not do either of these things !.

On their site all they do is defend their method by criticizing the traditional method. Apparently Tiger Woods and Greg Norman both had surgery because of the traditional methods........no mention of the fact that they also won 20 Majors with them....

If anyone advocates S&T, ask them a couple of questions: 1) which Major winner, which multiple winner, has ever used it ?, 2) Specifically, which great player has ever maintained his weight over his left side on the backswing and, again specifically, with the Driver ?. The answer to both is NONE

I don't know if I've seen a longer youtube debate (pissing contest)

This is all wrong! On the backswing the key is getting the left hip to move out toward the ball. This will cause you to rise up and therefore give more swing arc and distance to swing down on. At the top of the swing all the weight should be on the inside right heel. Then on the Downswing your shoulders should move laterally along with the hipswhile the right and left knees straighten. I am a great player and this is what I look like on film

you are such a fuckin obnoxious know fuckall its incredible

rory lost his body fat and put on muscle mass which also helped him gain swing speed,so he gained mass and velocity plus he has a fantastic technique,which ensures he uses the extra body mass combined with swing speed at impact! he also has the fastest hips in the game!! but you think that isn't important!!!

MY GOD i dont believe my eyes, so you think the only reason heavyweight boxers punch harder is because they punch faster?nothing to do with bodymass,so a lightweight boxer can't punch as fast as a heavyweight? my god my friend were you the dumbest kid in school?

and we're now seeing the rambling of a completely insane person that believes the same action can give different result. Litterally... he's saying actually saying if you swing the golf club the exact same way at the exact same speed all else being equal you will get different result...He actually believes that somehow he magically transfers his "weight" to the club head by "timing"! He also believes there's a linear connection between weight and distance meaning half the weight=half distance!

no i did mention speed i've been talking about speed all along!oh if you don't know velocity is speed!

a lorry hitting you@ 0.1 kmh lets say its 10 tons would be the equivalent of a car weighing 1 ton hitting you 1kmh?????? or a my god you're so stupid it should be a world record!

thats actually correct! all these are contributing factors!!! clubhead speed! clubhead mass! so basically what you are saying is if you use the same club and swing at the same speed as another golfer you will hit it exactly the same distance, regardless of how heavy you are, whether you are 6 stone or 16 stone, Do i have this correct?

"power of force" no i'm not familiar with this, is it a scientific term?LOL please feel free to elaborate!

why is a jab less lethal than a straight right?or right cross ? mmmmmm look ill tell you because a jab is from the shoulder! it doesn't use the boxers weight as much! where as a boxer users his full body mass for KO'S and hurter's but you need to know how to get your bodyweight behind the punch! its exactly the same as striking a golf ball!

QUOTE :"You're also stationary because you're rotating the club head around your own axis.!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA A HA HA No shit billybob! try to stay focused! the body is moving starting from your knees to your hips to your torso this generates momentum,torgue can be generated through momentum! it applies to everything!!! and you don't understand that!! BECAUSE YOURE THICK AS PIGSHIT! from pressing EVERY MOVEMENT INVOLVES MOMENTUM and YES THE GOLF SWING IS NOT EXEMPT!

You're now at the point where you don't know what power of force means?

thats where the skill is! tranfering your weight into the clubhead through timing!

So you still can't ask a question that makes any kind of sense!

Can't you see your truck analogy doesn't apply to golf or boxing? Can't you see that? When punched it's NOT the entire mass of the boxer that's hitting you but it's the hand stupid! It's not his entire body that lands on you if you're going to use the truck analogy. You're being hit by the entire truck at once when it hits you, but only the hand hits you when punched and only the club head is actually hitting the ball! RIGHT stupid. Do you see the light??

BRILIANT! so you dont really need to use your hips torso and legs then???? wow this is radical! i can feel a new methodology commin on! have you wrote a book yet?

so what constitutes as power? sorry lets make this easier for you,what does power consist of how is it generated?

that isn't what i asked you fucking idiot! two cars same speed 10 ton or 1 ton which one?

ok then lets put it another way you have a choice a fighting the heavyweight champion of the world or the flighweight champion who do you choose to fight? just answr the fuckin question!

When I have explained to you how retarded and nonsensical your question really is you still don't get it.... After i have said you lack a qualifier in order for it to make sense you still don't get it...you get NOTHING! You think a question like: "WHO WOULD YOU RATHER BE PUNCHED BY? A HEAVYWEIGHT BOXER OR A LIGHTWEIGHT BOXER?" makes sense! Really...because it makes absolutely no sense and it proves you're insane!