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@Ari_speaks
@Ari_speaks Күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏🏼 For posting Dr. Ruckman lectures 2024 and this man is still reaching and educating new Christians! Much luv from California
@Chewii1611
@Chewii1611 6 күн бұрын
That's good stuff
@Xyrogenix
@Xyrogenix 6 күн бұрын
Revelation 4:1 [1]After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. Revelation 21:1 [1]And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the FIRST heaven and the FIRST earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. Ruckman claimed there were 3 earths. That can't be the case. Rev 21:1 debunks that, and there are other verses to counter that theory as well. God bless you all 😊
@matthewrogersAV1611fan
@matthewrogersAV1611fan 7 күн бұрын
Beautiful bro Lotan 📖🗡️ thanks from Lancaster Ohio 🇺🇲
@cloudapostolicassembly5742
@cloudapostolicassembly5742 9 күн бұрын
AMEN
@bryceruppe9260
@bryceruppe9260 13 күн бұрын
"For ever, O LORD, thy word is settled in heaven." PSALM 119:89.
@user-galations_2-20
@user-galations_2-20 20 күн бұрын
3 raptures: OT saints Mt 27:52, church age 1 Thess 4:17, & trib saints Mt 24:31 & Rev 14:14
@camerashy474
@camerashy474 20 күн бұрын
I was 18 years old, saved, and truly desired to learn more of scripture. That was 1985. I had an NIV my mother gave me, and while reading the footnotes, I noticed the constant references made to Vaticanus. I knew at that time that the Vatican was an evil organization. The Lord leaned over my shoulder and said that something was not right. I went away to school and found a church to attend while receiving an education. One night,a deacon handed me a number of study tapes of Matthew by Dr. Ruckman. The rest is wonderful history. I had my faith restored in God's Holy Book, the KJV. I'm a spoiled sheep grazing on the hills of plenty.
@ricdavid7476
@ricdavid7476 22 күн бұрын
You look tired and depressed and sounded not at all excited about getting married by the way. Do you have to believe the kj is the perfectly preserved inerrant word of god to be saved or do you have to have ever read a bible at all to be saved? 2000 years ago all you needed to do was believe in the blood of jesus to be "saved" and born again. All this artwork and evangelism etc what sort of rewards are you hoping to get? Is hoping to get something for doing something a bit business like? I suppose you could say you are doing it all for the "love" of jesus but being honest in your own lives to those closest to you is hard enough work. I just dont get this religion or relationship you say you have with jesus because you look so depressed and worn out
@ricdavid7476
@ricdavid7476 22 күн бұрын
Ruckman often referred to the "old testament" who was the testator and when did they die? hebrews tells us that a testament only comes in effect when the testator is dead and while they are alive it has no effect. The new testament of Jesus only came into effect when he died so everything before the cross is not new testament.
@Art-4-Yeshua777
@Art-4-Yeshua777 22 күн бұрын
All very interesting 🧐 lol Good theory brother!
@pauletteduncan3746
@pauletteduncan3746 24 күн бұрын
Good video. I'm going to use it in the Bible study I teach.
@user-galations_2-20
@user-galations_2-20 27 күн бұрын
Well done sir, way to list scripture to interpret scripture. Stay away from the scholars and laodicea church watered down teachings. And most importantly, elevating the KJV
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 27 күн бұрын
I’m a bit confused also if whether he’s saying that a CHRISTIAN can be actively doing any of these characteristics but they won’t have any Inheritance in the Millennial kingdom? Or is it saying that these people he’s speaking of that are drunkards, effeminate, fornicators, etc. are non believers? Because wouldn’t a person that is for example LGBTQ and actively says God made them that way and says they aren’t in sin, that couldn’t be a True Christian, correct?
@Matthew-307
@Matthew-307 29 күн бұрын
Ok….so according to Ruckman’s own definitions and logical reasoning…. every translation is inspired.
@Ari_speaks
@Ari_speaks Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for sharing these videos! Some of us are completely new to the KJV Bible, and to Dr. Ruckman
@frankcavazos5263
@frankcavazos5263 Ай бұрын
The Gap fact also explains how all these megalithic structures got where they are, IMHO. Great video as always brother. Maranatha King Jesus!!
@harriwan
@harriwan Ай бұрын
These video's are very important, thank you for the uploads.
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 Ай бұрын
Also John 3:3 one says born of water and the spirit, and one just says born of the spirit. Can someone explain the difference? Thank you
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@michellel9764 my understanding of John 3:5, where Jesus says born of water AND born of the Spirit rests in the very next verse, John 3:6 “That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” The born of water being the flesh, physical birth (a woman’s water breaks), and the spiritual birth being receiving the Holy Ghost, or, just one verse later, being “born again.”
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 Ай бұрын
That’s so much. So when the verse JUST says except a man be born again, and doesn’t say except a man be born of water and the spirit, it’s just condescending the two I’m guessing? My apologies, I guess that was actually what my original question was. I’m also so grateful Ruckman answered what 1 Corinthians 6:9 is referring to. I always though since it says Unrighteousness, that it meant UNBELIEVERS but it actually means BELIEVERS just LOOSING their rewards. I could never find many Pastors that dug deep with that verse. Thanks very much for taking the time to respond, it’s very helpful.
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@michellel9764 I think the first time Jesus says born again he’s just telling Nicodemus what a man must do to be saved, but then Nicodemus questions him and so Jesus expands more.
@oshea2300
@oshea2300 24 күн бұрын
James 2 is justification before man and Romans is justification before God.
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 Ай бұрын
Can anyone explain the dispensation of James 2? Thank you!
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@michellel9764 since James 1:1 says the book is addressed to the 12 tribes of Israel that are scattered abroad, and since we don’t know who the 12 tribes are right now until the tribulation (Rev.14), I would say the dispensation is for them, the 12 tribes, during the tribulation. Hope that helps.
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 Ай бұрын
@@LastCall777Thank you very much. That did answer my question. I was also studying yesterday about the 144000 during the Tribulation and was wondering are they already on earth now or were they previous Jews from the Old Testament. I guess I figure that I just don’t see any Jews that actually do believe in Jesus now. Maybe once the rapture happens, THEN they place faith in Jesus so maybe that’s what that verse is about.
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@michellel9764 there’s a couple of different video on the 144,000 on this channel so if you’re on a desktop just click the search button and type that in and you should find a few. But there are a couple of different theories on who they are. Some say they are the first fruits and are either the Old Testament saints that rose from the grave at Jesus’ death, or perhaps any remaining that didn’t raise. Some say they are simply Jewish men today who may not know what tribe they are from but God will separate them and write his law on their hearts and mind so I’m not sure if they even need to be believers. They are a picture of what God will do to the Jews at the end of Tribulation when an entire nation (Israel) gets saved in a day. I’m not at my home now so I can’t quote specific passages but if you’d like me to I can this week. Good luck sister! There’s a ton to learn and so much we will never know until it happens :)
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 27 күн бұрын
Thank you very much. That was very helpful. Actually, I recall that verse in the Old Testament when God says he will write his Law on the hearts. I will go look that up and study the context of that. Thank you very much.
@michellel9764
@michellel9764 27 күн бұрын
I just found it, it’s Jeremiah chapter 31-34. I think this may be a Tribulation verse so that answers my question I believe. I think Jeremiah is about future events.
@C.P.R.3
@C.P.R.3 Ай бұрын
The lawless one wanted the body of the one in which the law came from.
@tonyladokguy8985
@tonyladokguy8985 Ай бұрын
I think you left out something very important. The literal translation of the Hebrew in 1:2 is "the Earth BECAME without form and void..." This would provide additional support for the "gap." However, I don't think it's a good idea to use the "fall of Lucifer" in your explanation of the gap theory. That name is not in the correctly-translated Hebrew texts, and if you are going to let the Bible speak for itself, then the passages you site have to be referring to a human king. Also, the Scriptures state that Satan was evil from the beginning, and not that he started out good and decided to become evil. God creates both good and evil, and He created Satan to be the "adversary" for a purpose.
@Maaad-maaan
@Maaad-maaan 2 күн бұрын
The hebrew masoretic can’t be trusted. NathanH83 has great videos that explains this How Long Were The Israelites in Egypt, and Were the Pyramids Built Before the Flood He also made a video clarifying again that it wasn’t the Greeks who translated the septuagint but rather Jewish scribes who knew both hebrew and Greek. The masoretic came hundreds of year later
@jeezed2950
@jeezed2950 Ай бұрын
"Lucky for us, we know the bible doesn't make contradictions." Sure, ok.
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@jeezed2950 glad we agree!
@ronrobinson8819
@ronrobinson8819 Ай бұрын
Your explanation is what I was taught and believed these past 40 years
@DavidMiller-f6p
@DavidMiller-f6p Ай бұрын
Amen
@imnewtothistuff
@imnewtothistuff Ай бұрын
#1 There is no gap. #2 If you merely finish reading all of Verse 2, "And darkness was upon the face of the deep." The Earth began as a ball of water, Verse 1 is merely a declaration of what God did. He created the heaven and the Earth. The rest of Genesis goes into the detail of how he did that. There is no Gap Off time.
@tonyladokguy8985
@tonyladokguy8985 Ай бұрын
Please consider that you are using a poor translation. The correct translation of the Hebrew in 1:2 is "The Earth BECAME without form and void..." Now you have a gap.
@imnewtothistuff
@imnewtothistuff Ай бұрын
@tonyladokguy8985 Soooo, the KJV is a 'poor' translation, eh? Correct me if I'm wrong, but Genesis 1:1 says "in the beginning," which means there can be nothing before, which makes the Gap Theory Foolishness. There can be nothing before the beginning.
@tonyladokguy8985
@tonyladokguy8985 Ай бұрын
@@imnewtothistuff Well, a few things. Yes, the KJV is one of the least accurate English translations, containing thousands of incorrectly translated words from the Hebrew and Greek texts. The correct translation of the Hebrew in 1:1 is "In beginning..." (there is no "the), but that's irrelevant because the "gap" occurs AFTER 1:1, between that and 1:2, when the earth BECAME formless.
@IAMJ1B
@IAMJ1B Ай бұрын
Ho
@imnewtothistuff
@imnewtothistuff Ай бұрын
@tonyladokguy8985 Ok, I'll bite, what exactly happened during this gap?
@swlancaster1964
@swlancaster1964 Ай бұрын
Kamala was right about the passage of time.
@RavensEagle
@RavensEagle Ай бұрын
Thank you for this I unexpectedly needed this and you uploaded this yesterday. Been looking at the Minoan Eruption in greece 1500BC which possibly caused the parting of the red/reed sea. The Burkle crater east of Madagascar 4000BC~ possibly being responsible for Noah's flood The end of the Green Sahara period because of the change Axial procession that changes every 13000 years ending around 6000BC being responsible for the disappearance of the Garden of Eden But now thanks to you I have a candidate for the fall of Satan from heaven being possibly the Younger Dryas impact from 12800 years ago I heard of the 2 flood theories in the bible but wasn't convinced but seeing it explained and visualised like this with all the verses really put my mind to race I'll have something to think about for a while now, thank you
@WellFedSheep
@WellFedSheep Ай бұрын
Exodus 20:11 KJV For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@WellFedSheep Amen
@ThyWordaboveall1611
@ThyWordaboveall1611 Ай бұрын
Genesis 1 gives us a literal time frame of six literal days that God spoke everything into existence. The first and the last word of Genesis 1 is "In" and "day" these two words show up in the Bible 14,406 There is a 144 hours in 06 literal days 14406 that number equals 7x7x7x7x6=14406 that number also equals 6x2401=14406 6 days 24hrs in 01 or could say it like this 6-literal 24-hour 01-days Thats not all Genesis 6:6 is the 144th verse again there are 144 hours in 6 days Genesis 6 is a representation of the sixth day 6,000th year/6 millennium as a forshadow Jesus says as it was in the days of Noah so shall it be at the coming of the LORD. Well romans is the sixth book of the N.T. and Romans 6:6 is the 144th verse of Romans and is literally the fulfillment of the allegorical/forshadowing of the flood/cleansing of the earth the OLD MAN/ OLD WORLD was crucified think about it God sanctified the earth killing everything. Romans 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. All of that really happened its real history its allegorical and a foreshadow too meaning it happened and it also had symblic meaning. So it was the flood that sanctified the earth and destroyed the Old world/Old man. Romans 6:3Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. God is a God of order the O.T. events paint a picture of what God was planning to do and really happened and are real history some will say will its just written for symbolic meaning it didnt really happen. They are dead wrong everything written in Our beloved KJB is truth and no lie is of the truth. Also "in" and "day" are found 777+77x in Genesis and revelation. Also "in" and "day" is found in all books accept Genesis and revelation in the KJB 13,552 that = 16×11×77. So "in" and "day" The whole KJB14406=7×7×7×7×6=6×2401 Revelation + Genesis 777×77 All book accept Genesis +Revelation 16×11×77. If you want to see the proof of this I can semd you the pure Bible study count on all claims.
@ThyWordaboveall1611
@ThyWordaboveall1611 Ай бұрын
BTW when I say the flood sanctified the earth I'm pointing out the future symbolic forshadowing of Jesus Christ which is the true baptism and new life and salvation comes only through faith in the blood of Jesus trusting in his finished work on the cross at calvary in which he died and was buried and rose again on the third day. Jesus Christ is the son of God and is the Only way to the kingdom of heaven. The KJB is the word of God and is the final authority for today. I do not read modern counterfeit Bibles and do not congregate in modern churches as the foundation is Jesus Christ and his word once you take the word of God out and replace it with a counterfeit you've gone to a dead book and that will be a dead church serving another Jesus and another gospel which Paul warns about.
@wordofakingKJV1611
@wordofakingKJV1611 Ай бұрын
Dear brother, this is the most succinct teaching on the Gap in existence. PTL! I believe you covered the most "hard-hitting" passages in this, this is awesome. Gen 9:1 really rounds out the "replenish" definition and argument, as the Lord uses the same wording with Noah as He did with Adam - he tells him to be fruitful, multiply, and "replenish" the earth. Also, I think the context of Jeremiah 4 refers to the Tribulation (vs 29-31), not Noah's flood. I think you nailed the quickest and most convincing arguments "scripture with scripture" for "replenish" and "without form and void", followed by the universal flood in 2 Peter. As you said, it can't be Noah's flood in 2 Peter as both the heavens and the earth were flooded (3:5, 3:7) - "the heavens were of old" vs "the heavens and the earth which are NOW"... Noah's flood had nothing to do with "the heavens." Amen! 🙏
@dahliagreen5919
@dahliagreen5919 Ай бұрын
Concise, helpful and very well made video, thank you brother.
@mobymagg
@mobymagg Ай бұрын
The five worlds: 1). The world that then was (2Peter3:6), 2). The old world (2Peter2:5), 3). The present evil world (Galatians1:4), 4). The world to come (Hebrews2:5), 5). The world without end (Ephesians3:21). Brother Paul Lucas teaches on this on Hillview Baptist Church channel. It is the gap fact, yes.
@mythacat1
@mythacat1 Ай бұрын
Your verses from 2 Peter are clearly out of context and in reference to Noah's flood. Please reread.
@mobymagg
@mobymagg Ай бұрын
@@mythacat1 The world that then was (2Peter3:6) was flooded by God in judgement because of Lucifer's rebellion.(Where else in scripture would Lucifer's fall have been?). That world was lost and this world began in order to restore that which was lost. The six days of creation are the foundation of this world. This world is made up of 1). the old world (2Peter2:5), Noah's flood (in context, happened AFTER God created man), and 2). this present evil world (now), and 3). the world to come (Christ's return for his thousand year reign). After the restitution of all things is the world without end (Ephesians1:10; 3:21). This is how I understand it. And we prove all things and have no private interpretation of God's words.
@mythacat1
@mythacat1 Ай бұрын
@mobymagg Peter directly mentions Noah's family when talking about the old world destroyed by flood. So he obviously is talking about Noah's flood. It was a flood which occurred in Genesis 6, it's easy look up. I'm not trying to be harsh here, I'm just saying he directly indicates which flood he means when he mentions Noah's Family, 'the only souls saved from the flood'.
@mythacat1
@mythacat1 Ай бұрын
@mobymagg Regardless of when lucifer fell, Peter is not talking about Satan's flood, as I mentioned he clearly is talking about Noah's.
@mobymagg
@mobymagg Ай бұрын
@@mythacat1 I agree that 2Peter2:5 is about Noah's flood which occurred in Genesis 6. However, 2Peter3:5-7 is describing the world that was before this present world. Noah's flood happened during this present world. The difference is that "the world that then was" perished (v.6) and the heavens and the earth "which are now" are reserved unto fire (v.7). Also, 2Peter3:5 is describing Genesis1:9, which is before Noah's flood. What God tells us in his Holy Book is a great treasure!
@realmermaidman
@realmermaidman Ай бұрын
“If the Old Testament is understood as a foreshadowing, then one sees that the true Jews of the Old Testament are foreshadowing of Christians, since all true Jews of the Old Testament live spiritually in expectation of Christ the Savior, the Messiah. On the other hand, their enemies in the Old Testament are a foreshadowing of contemporary Judaism, that is those who either consciously or unconsciously confess the Jewish religion, the very foundation of this religion being a rejection of Christ. Once one accepts the Christian Gospel, traditional Judaism loses its validity. The Jewish religion which accepts Christ is the Christian religion.”
@AwalkthatpleasesGod1Thes4_1-12
@AwalkthatpleasesGod1Thes4_1-12 Ай бұрын
I am also a believer of the gap. God also told Noah after the flood the same thing He told Adam. Gen 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
@kmenzies601
@kmenzies601 Ай бұрын
The heavens and the earth = space and matter. Therefore, the earth being without form and void refers to planets and stars not yet having come together. "Earth" here does not mean the planet we live on. That would be referred to as "the world," and it does not seem to be the case here.
@wordofakingKJV1611
@wordofakingKJV1611 Ай бұрын
Private interpretation.
@kmenzies601
@kmenzies601 Ай бұрын
@@wordofakingKJV1611 Yes. Almost more of a question from me. When we in our time read "the earth" we capitalize the word earth in our heads. What word does the Hebrew use? Is it one that meant "the world" in the time of the writing? I don't know, but someone does. My idea could be all wet.
@nicsmada
@nicsmada Ай бұрын
😆 "LUCKILY FOR US..." 😆 THAT'S A CONTRADICTION! THOSE WHO BELIEVE IN GOD DON'T BELIEVE IN LUCK... I'LL THROW IN KARMA AS A BONUS. 🤪
@dr.johnwheeler6581
@dr.johnwheeler6581 Ай бұрын
“And by chance there came down a certain priest that way: and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.” Luke 10:31 Make sure to tell Jesus not to use those kind of expressions when you see Him.
@nicsmada
@nicsmada Ай бұрын
@@dr.johnwheeler6581 I STAND CORRECTED & THE PREFERRED WORD... LUCK?
@PLT1061
@PLT1061 Ай бұрын
I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but TIME and CHANCE happeneth to them all. -Ecclesiastes 9:11
@nicsmada
@nicsmada Ай бұрын
@@PLT1061 ALREADY REPLIED TO "CHANCE" NOW... LET'S TRY THE VIDS PREFERRED CHOICE OF WORD... LUCK.
@PLT1061
@PLT1061 Ай бұрын
Oxford English Dictionary circa 1475 ? luck, n.the “CHANCE”occurrence of situations or events either favourable or unfavourable to a person's interests; the sum of chance events affecting...
@charlottehudson9530
@charlottehudson9530 Ай бұрын
Well done Lotan sir! Ive believed the gap fact for a few years now and it was beacause as I read the bible for myself and some of the questions i had no one could answer finally came together to make sense{like the 2 peter verse} But like you I dont argue with people about it, im just glad I know the answer.
@kenallen6682
@kenallen6682 Ай бұрын
Excellent presentation and more importantly 100% ACCURATE!!!!!
@abelsadventures3480
@abelsadventures3480 Ай бұрын
Good stuff. God Speed mate!
@dolucks1
@dolucks1 Ай бұрын
There's an Ethiopian bible that states in Genesis 1, "From what was left before, God created the heavens and earth".
@TONY19021965
@TONY19021965 Ай бұрын
Thank you brother. This is another Scriptural, direct, precise, and very well done presentationn. Plus, you handled the self-righteous jerks with a lot of grace. God speed, brother.
@ckvon9644
@ckvon9644 Ай бұрын
🙏 Absolutely, The Gap Doctrine is indisputable 👍.
@southernbelle2732
@southernbelle2732 Ай бұрын
I believe that
@Mr_m888
@Mr_m888 Ай бұрын
2:22, it do be like that.
@AlvinSantander-s3t
@AlvinSantander-s3t Ай бұрын
I’m a believer of the Genesis Fact without a doubt. Praise the LORD for His perfect word that never leaves us clueless having it purified 7 times.
@justinjustin4605
@justinjustin4605 Ай бұрын
is this theory also supposed to account for the age of the earth? if so it leads to more issues. was there death during this gap before the fall in the garden?
@Mr_m888
@Mr_m888 Ай бұрын
Evidently, the gap flood would have something to do with the original rebellion (Isaiah 14:12-15 KJB), before man was created. *Psalm 82 **_KJB_* 1 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; *he judgeth among the gods.* 2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah. 3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. 4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked. 5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: *all the foundations of the earth are out of course.* *6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.* *7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.* 8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations. Although verse 7 refers to the flood in Noah's day (when the angels which kept not their first estate were drowned with men-Jude 1:6; Genesis 6), it is highly possible that they rebelled and joined Satan even long before any of that took place (note, the devil has his angels: Matthew 25:41; Revelation 12:3-4; Daniel 8:9-11; Revelation 12:7-9). Particularly, *'all the foundations of the earth are out of course.'* seems to line up quite well with Genesis 1:2 if you compare. I cannot say for sure, but in this sense, Psalm 82 could be referring to both floods. If so, verse 5 refers to Genesis 1:2, and verse 7 refers to Genesis 6.
@wordofakingKJV1611
@wordofakingKJV1611 Ай бұрын
Not "death", but the Bible says "hell was created for the devil and his angels." When exactly was "hell created" in Genesis 1 without the gap?
@sovereigngracedoctrine5774
@sovereigngracedoctrine5774 Ай бұрын
You A HERETIC, A LIAR, A DECEIVER AND YOU KNOW NOT THE TRUTH.
@ryoji7
@ryoji7 Ай бұрын
Brilliant, Lotan! Absolutely marvellous! It's not as if God created the host of heaven in Genesis 1:16 or anything, no, no, not at all. That would _annihilate_ this whole GENIUS idea (which I'm always VERY delighted to see flourish because of its uncanny Scriptural rigour) and would make ol' Ruckman sound like a looney tune, and we just can't have that, can we now.
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
Sorry, you'll have to explain to me in more direct words where the error is. I'm clearly much less enlightened than you are. Yes, God created the stars etc in Genesis 1:16. Where does that come into play here? With Lucifer saying he wanted to rise above the stars of God? If so, I covered that in the article I linked in the description. If it's something else though, please, let me know. Perhaps in a more humble tone though so I can actually try and understand through the sarcasm.
@ryoji7
@ryoji7 Ай бұрын
@@LastCall777 Stars are literally angels (Revelation 1:20, 9:1, 12:4-12:9; Daniel 8:10) (certainly not balls of burning gas btw, I'll leave it at that). Starting in Genesis 1:14 is when God created all of the host of heaven, so there were no angels in 1:1, nor Satan. So no gap. "But there's a contradiction!", no, you just want to assume that it's a contradiction as an excuse to justify the gap, and refuse to consider that "earth" from 1:1 anything other than a fully "formed" earth which God then reverted back to being "without form". No, it's simply the potter telling you that he has got the lump of clay which he will then give form to, but by that you interpret that he already has a finished vase which he will then crush to "recreate" another one. See how nonsensical that is? He created the earth without form and void (only endless waters below heaven), and proceeds to explain how He gave it form, no mystical gaps needed. I could also further explain how that passage from 2 Peter is butchered to make it refer to something other than "the" flood, but that above goes straighter to the point. And also, yes, this grieving kind of nonsense _will_ get the sharp end of my tongue (or typing, in this case!). But trust me that I don't put into practice Proverbs 27:17 with someone I don't consider a brother. God bless
@LastCall777
@LastCall777 Ай бұрын
@@ryoji7 I see you can’t seem to ditch the holier than thou condescending attitude, but I think I can manage to see past that. Let me ask you something, is our sun Jesus? Because Jesus is called the sun. Obviously he’s not. Likewise, there are literal stars out there in space (yes, balls of fire) and the angels are also called stars but these are different things, just as Jesus is not the literal sun. But from the little you’re saying I’m starting to gather that you’re also a flat earther… or am I wrong? If so it would explain the attitude. If not, then accept my apology and congrats for having some form of sanity.
@ryoji7
@ryoji7 Ай бұрын
@@LastCall777 I'm not condescending, I'm just trying to make you realize from Scripture the foolishness of this idea, and truth be told you've commendably animated way rougher sermons, so not quite getting your qualms about my boldness. About the sun, that's not a proper equivalence, you can't cherrypick the only mention of "Sun of righteousness" as an epithet of the Lord Jesus to imply all other mentions of "sun" _may_ _perhaps_ refer to Jesus too, which is what we're actually dealing with with stars/angels or stars/gas-balls. From a purely Scriptural standpoint, there is no way to make the distinction you suggest. Now if you have it, please do tell, but your attempt to divert attention towards flat earth, of the which I wrote not a single word, does not exempt you from backing your claims with chapter and verse, as I did for mine.
@wordofakingKJV1611
@wordofakingKJV1611 Ай бұрын
​​@@ryoji7 None of the references you've provided in Revelation or Daniel indicate that "all stars" are exclusively angels. This kind of sloppyness is evident again in your private interpretation of "without form and void" in Gen 1:2, claiming that "the potter" has yet to form his lump of clay. What exactly is your scriptural basis for such a claim? Where's the void ball of formless dust when God "formed" Adam in Gen. 2:7? Where's there anything in all of Gen. 1 or anywhere else in scripture where God describes anything he creates as empty and formless before he gives you a step by step description of his creation project? An honest steward of scripture would run the reference to "without form and void" to Jeremiah 4:23 and see that the Bible itself defines an earth "without form and void" to be the aftermath of a destruction that only the throne in Heaven can render. Please explain why God would describe an earth he destroys in Jeremiah 4:23 the exact same way as he describes an earth he's "in the process of creating" in Gen 1:2... And this time, along with your snarky condescendence, actually attempt to provide relevant scripture references without your asinine assumptions and private interpretations.
@Rey-pi4yi
@Rey-pi4yi Ай бұрын
It most definitely is a gap fact, faith in the blood