@@bilbobaggins7075 awesome to hear dude. Keep it up!!!

@@octaviohenrique.n I don't remember exactly what I said as this video is years old. But I don't think I said exactlly what you are saying. Same head at same tension will have same pitch. I had some issues where the drumdisl isn't super accurate or would give weird results on that however. The tune bot always gets the exact same pitch and I found was way more accurate

@@beyondbetrayalthanks man Great video! Us not professional drumers end up relying on this tech things to be more sure of having a good tunning to record and play Cheers from Brazil

@@TheGradeZShow thanks for the comment. I do it for the sound As I like the pitch bend but also like when it sounds deep in the mic I think if you have a looser batter head you will have less rebound, but less shock. It's like playing on a rock hard surface .. If it's too hard, the rebound is bad. Then you get a bit softer' like practice pads that feel great.' As you get too soft there is no rebound.. There is a happy medium. I suggest playing around on a single drum and testing some settings to where it feels good. Ultimately you don't want any pain but I'm not a Dr. Best of luck and let me know how it goes. I've suffered some injuries in my wrists from punching bags and other things over the years and a few weeks off the kit often helps too. I suggest if you continue to have pain see a professional and mention your a drummer.

That is exactly what I hear as well.

Awesome man. I need to make a new one and try this again! My drums are in need of a tuning haha

@@beyondbetrayal Thanks for sharing the video!

@@ajtatosmano2 280 is REALLY fast for blasts. Haha. I'll make a new video soon. I've changed my technique a ton and have some new pointers to sneak some extra speed out of it

@@beyondbetrayal okay, it might not be 280 (I remembered a drummer mentioning that number, I am not a drummer) or just a short part, but the power and tempo (and honestly everything) is amazing about this song, check it out: Love's Souvenir by Seven Spires

Awesome to hear it!

@@patmccrotch5373 haha I grew up on a single pedal as a NOFX and nufan fan. Did a lot of slide technique back then.

@@beyondbetrayal yeah I only had a single pedal as well, granted I was like 9-10 years old at the time, but I had about a good 45 seconds to a minute in me before I exhausted myself out by using the wrong technique. I used to get so pissed watching the drummer from mxpx just keep that beat up for 3 minutes straight, and not even break a sweat. I knew I was missing something, but unfortunately I didn't have the luxury to go to the internet and learn the right way from your videos. Great channel man, been watching a bunch since I subbed about a week ago.

@@damiangonzalez9465 happy it helped ya

@@beyondbetrayal very much so it did my whole kit is singing can’t wait for Sunday service to hear it with the mics on 👍🏻

@@jackbryant8095 Roland bass drum trigger. They work great

Thanks 👍

You bet

@grantcoffman2698 tough to say it's been so long. There are plenty of kick samples to download all over online though

@ckyro121 thanks. I'd check out thr TM2 though. Way better than the alesis

@@richwilson5969 Pearl MCX Evans heads

@@richwilson5969 Thanks for watching

Too tight chokes the drum. Too loose sounds like bzzzzz. Pretty tight but not too tight

@@HGBuddne3534 as a rule I try to keep the reso head between 390 and 420 depending. The batter is somewhere between 325 and 375 but I can't say right now. Tuning the reso much higher will choke the drum and make it sound dead. I've switched to the Evans hybrid heads and my god they sound like a gun shot now

That is such an awesome thing to hear!!! I love sharing this stuff to help out others. Rock on!!

Very cool. I was a total noob with no idea what I was doing when I made this haha

Hmmmm. That's a good question. I think it would be difficult but it would really build your strength and control over the strokes. I know for myself I NEED the rebound so I'd have a very hard time doing it. If you had tighter springs and got it working it would help transition to not using such a tight head which would be good.

Wish I could remote in and help ya man. This stuff has a bit of a learning curve but one's you figure it out it should be easy after. First step. Get the ekit working in the vst with midi. Even if you can't hear it you can see the drums hit when you hit the pads. That part has to work or your out of luck. After that you can spend time clicking on the drums while screwing around with audio and not getting up and down constantly. I have some concerns when you install all these drivers and audio filters as they make large changes. Might be easier to reinstall windows if you screw it up bad enough. If you can hear the drums in waveout while hitting the pads there is latency but that's what your computer audio will use. If the audio works in thr VST without reaper then open it in reaper and confirm hits are registering. Same thing goes again. It's 99% an audo routing issue.

@@beyondbetrayal Appreciate the reply. I was able to bandaid a solution together. Hopefully this might help someone else out too. It isn't perfect, but with a latency of 2 ms, I can't be too upset. So let's say what I did first with the VST. So the VST was set to the master track, not track 1. So setting it to track 1 fixed that. Next, let's just get it out the door, asio HATES me. For some reason, it will not work no matter what I do. It's probably because the soundcard I have is embedded into my mobo instead of having an actual designated one, thus needing to use realtek for all my sound-based needs. So what I did was use WASAPI set my audio device to "Stereo Mix (Realtek(R)Audio) for the input. This pretty much just uses whatever the system sends to whatever default speakers the pc uses for headphones/auxillary input mostly. As for the output, I set it to Speakers (Realtek(R)Audio). DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU ARE RECORDING AUDIO (ONLY USE IT FOR WHEN YOU ARM THE TRACK FOR CREATING MIDIS). IF YOU TRY TO RECORD AUDIO, THIS WILL CREATE A FEEDBACK LOOP AND DEAFEN YOUR EARS! If you do want to record audio, you have to set it to a separate device like a tv or monitor's built-in speakers for the output. However it worked fine for me when needing to make midis. Since wasapi had horrible latency, I set realtek device to have incredibly high studio quality 192000 hz and matched it in the samplerate. To fix the issue with not hearing the rest of my pc, I set it to shared mode in wasapi. ANOTHER THING asio hates. I'm Still figuring out alot of things like quantizing the midi so not every note is a 1/64th note and how to adjust/create notes in the midi editor, but other than that, atleast I'm not throwing my keyboard at the wall anymore.

Oh ya. If you work at it anything is possible. 290 is crazy fast though. And in reality, the faster you are playing the less distance from the head you have to rebound. Same goes for single strokes on the hands. Mics and a good compressor or triggers are the way around that. Not many people hit 290 on the feet without a trigger.

@@beyondbetrayal but if I put the beaters closer to the head then I basically have no velocity towards the bass drum when striking, meaning even less rebound, and even less power. I'm currently at 220-240 ich after 3 days of using the a21 or any longboat for that matter and, I'm just worried because at about 230 the power on the second stroke is barely there

@@Evixus-gr1dm That's where spring tension comes into play. it all works in harmony, spring tension, head tension, beater distance, and practice.

@@beyondbetrayal but my springs are maxxed. Are you suggesting loosening them? I tried that but that just makes the pedal not respond quick enough

@Evixus-gr1dm my springs are about mid tension.... but I make up for that with head tension as I need the rebound. That rebound allows me to "catch" the pedal and swing it back, creating momentum. Hitting 240/250 using doubles is quite easy for me like this. I'm not suggesting you do anything. Everyone plays differently. Another thing you can try to play with is beater height. Or get beater weights. They all change the feel of the pedal quite a bit. So think beater height, weights, the beater itself, spring tension, head tension, distance from head, and the pedal itself. Each one will have an effect on another. If I adjust one setting, changing another may respond differently. It's a balance and takes a while to get used to after changing, too. At the end of the day, though, trying to hit those speeds is going to require changes to your velocity.

I'll check. i think i cranked it as output is low i've heard on a few gigs from sound guys

Did you also have all triggers set to 100?

Did you check mate?

@@derrekclay7425 I trigger mine and like it cranked for rebound. But when I tune my kick I want to go as loose as I can on the batter then tune the reso up a bit more for rebound. I like a towel or small pillow to take away the boing and make it go boom with a punch.

Haha I have them for sure.

Yessir

No i don't use that. retrig cancel for time between hits, sensitivity/gain and threshold are the main ones

Keep the heads loose for a good bass sound. i don't use the tunebot on my kick usually

Thanks for watching!. Love me some old nofx

You're welcome!

Appreciate it. I tried to make it simple to follow.

Up to 2 stereo or 4 mono inputs. Doesn't "come with them" however

Thanks buddy

Anytime!!

Thanks for watching

Thanks for watching. Greetings from Canada 😀

14 I believe. It's been a few years haha

Thanks

Good luck. I love my demons.