Tune-bot toms with settings

[@Liam_S-11]

Oh my goodness!!! This is the exact video I have been looking for!!! You will not believe how long I have been looking for a video to help me with my tuning and the rest of them are so terrible and non detailed. This really helped me so much and now my toms actually sound good!

[@beyondbetrayal]

That is such an awesome thing to hear!!! I love sharing this stuff to help out others. Rock on!!

[@JakerstaG]

Never, in any tuning videos so far, have I heard anyone mention notes. Thank you very much.

[@beyondbetrayal]

It works very well. Easy to recreate when you change heads too

[@danday3741]

Those toms sound great!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks!!!

[@JasonWelchMusic]

Came for the toms. Stayed for the snare... great ghost rolls too.

[@TAHHGREEN]

Yeah man, that kit sounds beautiful. Definitely going to try these settings on my kit, thanks 👏 👏

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks for watching!!

[@ScottHunterBooks]

178/238 on the 12 works really well. Perfect fourth apart.

[@NilsHedstrom]

Awesome tutorials! I used to tune my toms very low and punchy with my Evans EC2 heads and maple toms but they didn't really cut through loud mixes, I'll definitely try this out in the future! Probably going to buy a tune-bot as well to help me get to these exact notes faster and easier! Definitely earned a new sub!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks man. It takes some practice but the tunebot helped me alot.

[@NacekO]

Awesome video. Just what I was looking for to tune drums for the heavy stuff :D Thank you very much for the video.

[@ramilopez6921]

I can't remember if you specified the tunings for your snare drums. Could you tell the pitches for the top and bottom heads? Thank you

[@thepluggy1]

Yes please

[@beyondbetrayal]

Reso between 390 and 415 I'd say Batter between 320 and 360 is my guess. Been a while since I've made this

[@TheGradeZShow]

I realize this video is kind of old, but I figured I'd fire off a question anyhow. I've been battling tendonitis for ages, & recently had it suggested that a higher tuned reso head on toms would promote rebound more than a tighter batter, & thusly lighten the load on hands. Since you're a whole 4th up on bottom I thought I'd ask for your take. I have a tunebot v1 & have usually gone for same pitch top & bottom on toms, but I'd readily sacrifice what I like in open tone for a little more user friendly action. Nice video, & nice sounding drums! Thanks!

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@TheGradeZShow thanks for the comment. I do it for the sound As I like the pitch bend but also like when it sounds deep in the mic I think if you have a looser batter head you will have less rebound, but less shock. It's like playing on a rock hard surface .. If it's too hard, the rebound is bad. Then you get a bit softer' like practice pads that feel great.' As you get too soft there is no rebound.. There is a happy medium. I suggest playing around on a single drum and testing some settings to where it feels good. Ultimately you don't want any pain but I'm not a Dr. Best of luck and let me know how it goes. I've suffered some injuries in my wrists from punching bags and other things over the years and a few weeks off the kit often helps too. I suggest if you continue to have pain see a professional and mention your a drummer.

[@tripledeluxe9101]

Those sound great!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks buddy

[@nimrodescojedo1408]

That tuning bot is pretty useful. Man, if I had known that one, I would have bought one from a music store. I'm good in hearing, but um, right now, not anymore, so I guess I better stock one of those. 😊

[@doofs]

jeez and i thought my canadian accent was thick LOL in all seriousness, super sick video and thanks for the tips!

[@beyondbetrayal]

Hahaha best comment in a while. Thanks. Might as well move to Sunnyvale trailer park

[@opensuse1462]

More power to you!! you are an awesome drummer!!!

[@beyondbetrayal]

What do you play? this is a good kit and it sounds great. Pearl MCX. I have a Reference Pure also. not cheap at all. lol. To each their own. I love this kit.

[@opensuse1462]

@@beyondbetrayal My bad. You are doing everything great Man!! Congratulations!!!

[@siim605]

@@beyondbetrayal I'm using your tunings on my Sonor SQ2 toms ("Heavy Maple" configuration, which is 12-ply 8mm thick maple shells). I will see how it goes :)

[@MichaelJohnsonProductions]

Nice dude. Great video. Awesome ideas

[@beyondbetrayal]

Thanks a bunch man.

[@MichaelJohnsonProductions]

@@beyondbetrayal you are very welcome

[@siroohhyee9205]

Can you do the kick drum plz🙏🙏🙏

[@StonEmemegod]

I have a 10 inch, 12 inch and 16 inch, what would I tune the 16 inch to specifically in Hz??

[@brianb1325]

I have the same question

[@siprimsiprimovsky]

Thank you!

[@beyondbetrayal]

You're welcome!

[@limitx4791]

Great video toms sounds so good how would i recreate with the tune bot?

[@adrianpunga1998]

I want to say a very big thank you for this tutorial! I have the same sizes, but Evans UV 2's on toms and my drums sound awesome! Nothing's choked - just nice, fat tone with a good amount of resonance. Not sure if this is gonna be useful to someone, but on my other kit (different wood and heads) i used this tuning too, but i tuned my 16 inches floor tom to 98 batter and 159 reso. I did this trying to make sound good in combination with the other toms, tuned using your method and man, that floor tom was thunderous! So yeah, thanks again for helping us all sound awesome 😎

[@beyondbetrayal]

That makes me happy to hear man. I may rewatch this as I'm due to get some new heads and tune my kit up again. hahaha

[@juliasanchez5762]

I just got my Tunebot and changing my 14in Snares with Evans Hydraulic. I would like to tune the batter to 196.0Hz/G3 and the reso 196.0Hz/G3, how do I set in the Tunebot. Thanks

[@ubersticks]

Unfortunately you don't "set the Tunebot". Rather you need to let it capture a 196 Hz reading by adjusting a lug, then Store that into one of the storage locations for drums.

[@stuperprohero]

Great tom sound and nice informative video. Hope you tamed that sympathetic snare buzz to the ride toms. Thanks for the great video.

[@beyondbetrayal]

You bet!

[@MalibuGlassMI]

Can you give me the size and tune of each drum head Top and Bottom? Like 10" ~ T_ B_ 12" ~ T_B_ 14" ~ T_B_ 16'~ T_B_ This would help greatly. I have the newer TUNE-BOT.

[@beyondbetrayal]

This was almost 3 years ago. I don't remember the notes. The toms were 10,12,14 though. I talk about the notes in the video however. On the tunebot website/app there is a calculator you punch in your drum sizes, resonance you want, and if you want your resos/batters higher or lower. I always tune my resos a bit higher. Stick to pretty high resonance usually works the best. It's easy to put a moongel on to dampen them.

[@BoboTheBonobo]

It looks like you don't fuss with muting the opposite head when you check the lugs. Is that correct?

[@beyondbetrayal]

I usually set the drum on a pillow when I do it it's on the carpet here. The bottom head is muted when I tune. This video was more just showing the settings and the relation of the heads rather than how to tune.

[@beyondbetrayal]

I usually set the drum on a pillow when I tune. It's on the carpet here. I had already tuned them a few days earlier and just wanted to show the settings quickly.

[@richwilson5969]

Your drums sound great. What brand model? What heads?

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@richwilson5969 Pearl MCX Evans heads

[@daltonreynolds990]

Do you have specific setting you use for your bass drum?

[@abject_fail]

I used to have that kit 😭

[@adrbrunowski9385]

Hi! Thx for useful video! What about your 16" floor tom which wasn't used at the video. What notes/readings would You recommend? Thx ✌️

[@finaltrackstudio]

can you sent me the freq of the snare and the bass drum as well

[@beyondbetrayal]

Snare is roughly 400 reso 300 batter starting point for me

[@kimmopuhakka9002]

How is the best settings for 16"?

[@hannes1734]

Depends. 16x16 Sonor S-Classix with a PS4 batter is best (in my opinion) with 80Hz for the top and 130 for the bottom. My Tama Superstar 16x14 has a G2 on top and wobbles at this setting, 90 for the top is better.

[@continuum288]

Brings a whole new meaning to when you said, "stay tuned" at the end..lol Informative video. A must have for our studio! Thank you! ps - was that the "rosanna" beat by Toto at the end?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Haha, it was just a shuffle, but I guess it was close.. Thanks for the comment. "stay tuned" made me laugh!

[@continuum288]

@@beyondbetrayal Cool!

[@theyellowrailbookingcompan7952]

Could you give me your kick specs? Everything sounds great but I’m a newbie and I’d love to get my kick in your ballpark

[@beyondbetrayal]

Keep the heads loose for a good bass sound. i don't use the tunebot on my kick usually

[@nimrodescojedo1408]

By the way, sir, can you tell me the frequencies about C? I wanted to sound my snare on a C for batter and F for reso. I'm using Evans 300 for reso and Remo Controlled sound for my bat.

[@beyondbetrayal]

400 reso 300 batter is my starting point usually.

[@xXxXxTIMExXxXx]

What’s settings for your 16”?

[@arnoldbishop8847]

I like mine to have a deep sound

[@mattlapsley426]

PROcess. We got a Canadian eh? cant wait to get my tunebot today in the mail

[@beyondbetrayal]

hahaha. I'm pretty sure there are a few "aboot's" and "eh's" in my videos right on man. it helps a ton

[@AtomicCabCo]

I did this with my 12" rack and my 14" floor. Rack sounds good, floor sounds like the craziest pitch bend ever. My drums are Gretsch Renown Maples, the floor is a 14x11.5.

[@Vampiramisfit]

What size is that floor tom

[@beyondbetrayal]

14 I believe. It's been a few years haha

[@MikeD606]

Question: shouldn't you tune the lugs a tiny bit higher because the center of the head (where you actually hit when playing) is a bit lower?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Use the tunebot calculator on their site or the phone app. Basically, with a 10 inch tom for example. there is the fundamental note of the head, and lug pitch. You tune the lugs to a certain pitch and that sets the fundamental note of the drum.

[@fill-druman5494]

Hey thank you for the great stuff, i am from germany and my english isnt so good... i have a question.. i have an pearl custom seesion with a 10" , a 12" , a 13" and a 14" tom... i've seen in the video you have tuned your 10" tom on A, your 12" tom on F and your floor tom on C... which note would you prefer for an 13" tom? This would help me so much.. thank you... oh and before i forget to ask are your reso heads higher tuned than the batter heads? I think i heared in the video but i dont know for sure..

[@damiangonzalez9465]

If I didn’t come across this video I would’ve probably thrown the tune bot out the window Good work 🫡

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@damiangonzalez9465 happy it helped ya

[@damiangonzalez9465]

@@beyondbetrayal very much so it did my whole kit is singing can’t wait for Sunday service to hear it with the mics on 👍🏻

[@daveyboy8907]

I have one of these tuners coming in a few days after watching your video..I have a 24,13,16 drum set..What would be a good number to start at on these,,I am running vintage remo emperor heads right now..Thanks man I subbed.

[@beyondbetrayal]

USE THE TUNEBOT website or app and punch in your sizes and desired resonance.. It takes some practice but their calculator is a good starting point. I adjust them from there. sometimes by hand sometimes with the tuner.

[@crispycruizer]

I watched your drum dial video before this one and I'm curious what the drum dial settings are to match this interval of 4ths, I play a lot of shows with multiple bands so the drum bot I borrowed st a show simply never worked out with all the ambient noise of other bands so I went back to my drum dial, but now I'm looking to swap heads to a different thickness on the resonant and curious if you've done such a thing of using both tools to get consistency in a live setting

[@beyondbetrayal]

Tensions will be difffernt with a thicker head, using the tunebot should get you the same "note" I find it quite consistent to tune to my previous settings.

[@soupathand]

Can you reply to me with your kick drum and snare settings?

[@beyondbetrayal]

My snare is always between 375 - 410 on the reso... the batter between 300-350 depending on the head and how tight I want it.. usually 300 top 395 bottom is a good place to start My kick i just tune to where the wrinkles are no longer there and put some pillows in it for a good sound... for triggering i crank the batter super tight and STUFF it with blankets

[@thelastjazzdrummer]

is that the gig version of tune bot?

[@beyondbetrayal]

It's the OG version. It was out before the gig.

[@Corpsefiend91]

Hey man, is it cool if I email you a few questions in regards to the TM2 module? I know it’s not related to this video. Thank you

[@beyondbetrayal]

Haha, sure, or just post here and I'll reply if I know the answer.

[@Corpsefiend91]

beyondbetrayal I still can’t get my TM2 module quite dialed in.. mind you, I’m running it to a Roland kd120 kick drum... I’ve never tried it on an acoustic kick with a trigger on the rim. Maybe that’s why I’m running into issues... my main issue is it is not picking up all my notes. Settings are identical to what 99% of people have them at... but those 99% of people aren’t running it through an ekit kick drum.

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@Corpsefiend91 When I had my ekit I forget what the settings were. It worked amazing though. if it's MISSING notes, It could be a few things. Turn the sensitivity up, turn the threshold down, or turn the decay i believe down.

[@beyondbetrayal]

Is it missing when you hit lighter, or faster.?

[@Corpsefiend91]

beyondbetrayal as soon as I start ripping into Doubles, it skips notes and doesn’t pick up all the notes.

[@istvanhajdu5250]

Awesome video, thank you! Can I ask what are your settings for the 14" snare and 20" bass?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Not sure my kick. Snare is always about 385-410 reso, batter about 280-350 range depending.

[@sueseverance1303]

12 inch is 178 on the batter?

[@martinandersen6125]

Your videos are great and truly inspirational! I have a kit with 10, 12, 13 racktoms and a 16 floor tom with Evans UV2 heads. How would you tune that kit?

[@beyondbetrayal]

I have never used the UV2 heads. I tune all kits the same pretty much though. I might go different in single ply but for dual ply heads it's the same. I always have my resos higher than my batters. Floor tom I may invert that if it rings out too much, or if it just feels too boomy, or impossible to play on.

[@martinandersen6125]

@@beyondbetrayal Cool, thanks for taking the time to answer! Great channel!

[@koyawampipti493]

I tuned my 10” tom to B what’s the best tune for my 12” tom and floor tom to match with my 10”tom?please help

[@beyondbetrayal]

Try doing 3rds, 4ths, or 5iths between the toms as well. Or the "my girl" tuning. Hum that song and those are the notes of the 3 toms.

[@fatdrunkbaby24]

Thats a perfect example my friend. Been struggling trying to tune my toms like this for a while. Gonna get the bot out now!

[@sueseverance1303]

What about 12 13 16?

[@beyondbetrayal]

Just follow the same technique I use. Every drum is different

[@timcanavan9268]

Great video, I did this on my 10 and 12 DWs and they sound awesome, do you happen to have settings for the rest of the kit? 8 16, snare and bass?

[@beyondbetrayal]

snare is about 380-410 reso head depending on the sanre. Tighter reso, less overtones, don't go too much or you will choke the drum. Batter I go about 300-350.......... once again, preference is huge here. do you want deep sounding or a higher pitch crack and more rebound.. Bass is an odd one. I have mine tight for rebound but use triggers. If not basicly just above wrinkles with a towel/pillow inside. I'll adjust the batter for rebound. Sometimes just a few 1/4 turns on the reso too.

[@danmeme7740]

What size are the drums though?

[@beyondbetrayal]

10,12,14 most likely in this video. the MCX kit i have is 8,10,12,14,16

[@danmeme7740]

I have coated heads and they don't sound the same with your settings. I wouldn't think it would make that big of a difference and would think they would have settings for coated heads. thanks btw

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@danmeme7740Coated heads sound different, less attack and a warmer tone. The weight of the coating makes the head thicker and resonate and a different note I'd assume, much like a single vs a dual at the same tension.

[@danmeme7740]

Thanks. I've been experimenting with the tunings. So far the medium on the tune bot site sounds the best.

[@JimPauls]

That isn't a matching MCX floor tom? What is it?

[@beyondbetrayal]

It sure is. My kit as an 8,10,12,14,16 and 20 inch kick.. All the same MCX kit

[@beyondbetrayal]

It doesn't have diecast hoops. that could be what you see. They were changed out.

[@JimPauls]

beyondbetrayal didn’t notice the hoops. MCX floor toms don’t have re rings. That’s what I noticed. MCX shells are all straight 6 ply 7.5mm Maple

[@beyondbetrayal]

@@JimPauls Not sure what to tell you dude. Might just be the camera or lighting., It's an MCX floor tom.

[@jeffXedge]

my tunebot doesnt give me anything like this. im fucking it up majorly apparently.

[@rigelberlingeri]

il timpano è bruttino

[@jazzdrummer000]

much cheaper and the same with drumtune pro 2.0 on android

[@beyondbetrayal]

Not at all. This is quite different