Looking to get some Toyos AT3's and happy I found your video! Just getting into the AT's and live in Michigan so hopefully this tire does well in wet and snowy/ice conditions!
@sanddrifterjb3 ай бұрын
I think you will be happy with the wet and snow performance. Just rotate often and enjoy
@Tigermeg8163 ай бұрын
Thanks for your review. Mounting my 2nd set of the OC AT3s today hopefully. Stepping up from the E load lt285/70/17 to the E load Lt305/70/17 I mounted first set at 85k miles. I now have 221k miles on the ODO. 5k mile rotations / 10k mile balances. I’m in Louisiana, no boulders here, but driven some in New Orleans and coastal areas. I wouldn’t say I took it “easy” on them. I would say along with everything you mentioned, the wet handling was likely my favorite feature. Over 100k miles, they never let me down or left me on the side of the road.
@Tigermeg8163 ай бұрын
2022 Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-road Premium/ Bilstein 6112 /5160 with Westcott Designs billet collar lift. OME rear coils standard load. C4 Lo-Pro / Badlands Apex 12K winch Frequently towed a 24’ Champion Bay boat w/ Yamaha F250 tandem axle aluminum trailer w/ surge brakes 90 gallons of fuel (not sure of total weight) Toyo OC AT3s got me and my family to safety during many storms and trips to Grand Isle with the boat, also off the beaten path kayak fishing.
@sanddrifterjb3 ай бұрын
@@Tigermeg816 Very cool! Sounds like you have a sweet set-up. Thanks for the info. on the tires. I am glad that hard work on the development side paid off. I also run the AT3's on my 4Runner, and the biggest thing we wanted out of this tire was being linear, predictable and perform well on almost any surface. Cheers!
@seanwaters88863 ай бұрын
I want this! Bring it to Oregon!!!
@ceceb62644 ай бұрын
This is not fair, put this on the market to sell or don’t show them.
@rj_lab5 ай бұрын
No AC is a no no for me.
@monzarace6 ай бұрын
I've been running Toyo tires on all my cars for years and still do. Now, I want a set of A/TIII and while they do produce the exact size I need, they don't sell them in Europe. In fact the importer of Toyo in Denmark told me this morning, June 2024, that Toyo just shut down their factory in Europe... He said that Toyo are in fact pulling out of the European market. So bad news. Falken doesn't make their proper A/T in my size so I am left with the many year old BFG K02 as the new K03 is also not made in my size... Come on Toyo, I've been using tons of your tires for years and years. Get back in Europe and sell us some good tires! If you Toyo read this, you can talk to the Danish importer of Toyo, and they will know who I am, and have my contact details, in case you want to sell me the good stuff. Until then, I am pretty disappointed over Toyo's moves. Cheers.
@Astor4o6 ай бұрын
I appreciate this is an old video but I just wanted to thank you - I'm moving from Yoko G015s to the Toyo Open Country A/T 3s! The Yokohama were great but they aged really fast and really poorly.
@sanddrifterjb6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful 🤙
@AA-ih6kt9 ай бұрын
NOISEY ON THE ROAD
@sanddrifterjb9 ай бұрын
They are good when new but tend to get noisy as they wear. I find that if I rotate often, it seems to really help.
@Jaredius9 ай бұрын
Biased much?
@sanddrifterjb9 ай бұрын
Do I like Toyo, sure but lots of good tires out there. Data is data. When I test the tires they are all black and round.
@ToyotasInc10 ай бұрын
So glad I found these videos man.
@sanddrifterjb10 ай бұрын
Thank you. 🙏 yeah haven’t done some in a long time but fun Lexus and Trophy Truck footage. Cheers
@ToyotasInc10 ай бұрын
Joe, long time since FJ Summit...hope your still killin' it. This is fantastic BTW, the in cab, the behind the scenes...just too darn cool. glad it hit my feed
@sanddrifterjb10 ай бұрын
🤙
@tyzon0080011 ай бұрын
Paid advert by Toyo
@sanddrifterjb11 ай бұрын
Clueless
@cchiz1911 Жыл бұрын
I’m torn between the Toyo AT3’s and Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT’s. The MT’s are 9lbs heavier per tire and I’m wondering if there would be a noticeable difference in mpg 275/65/R20 on F250?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
I don't have any experience with the MT brand but 9lbs is noticeable, especially if their is any runout.
@ocram9690 Жыл бұрын
Hey I know this video is old now and I’d like to let you know. Having had the AT2’s and now having the AT3’s on my FJ Cruiser they’ve both been awesome set of tires. Out of my AT2’s we got almost 90k miles and then switching to the AT3’s they’re now going on 50k still going strong I’m gonna get another set soon. Only complaint if you can call it that is they’re starting to dry rot otherwise they’ve been great tires on and off road. We’ve used both sets for off-roading & never had any issues. Great set of tires TOYO. Keep up the great work!
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
Glad you are enjoying your AT3's and your FJ. Back in the day, I was the lucky one who drove the first pre-production (prototype) through the Rubicon in 2006, before the launch in 2007. Best rig ever IMO. Anyway, I would recommend that you rotate often and when it comes to dry rot, I have also encountered this condition. Not ideal but keeping them conditioned and out of the elements is best if you can. I would also give the RT Trail a try next time. I liked them a bit better after testing the two. Cheers Joe
@TheMrT87 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe, i will buy the Toyo OC AT3 and Switch from my BFG K02. But now I have heard, that the Toyos are difficult to balance and that there is a Vibration feeling when you Drive faster. Do you or your customers have made same experiences? Regards from Germany.
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
I think you should re-check your balance of the tires. It maybe a wheel issue as well. My experience with run-out on the Toyo and Nitto brands are far superior than other brands like BFG. Toyo uses a specific manufacturing process (updated) compared to BFG. I have had mounted and balanced both brands many times and the Toyo's use a small amount of weights, where the BFG's take a lot to get them to zero out. Hope that helps Joe
@TheMrT87 Жыл бұрын
Hey Joe, thanks a lot for answering and for your Support. I ordered the Toyos now and I will See How they run.
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
@@TheMrT87 👍 the RT Trail is also a great choice next time. All the best 😎
@TheMrT87 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I would prefer the R/T, but it is not available in Germany, or maybe europe. An I found no Information about 3PMSF signing. Best regards from Germany.
@ts_women Жыл бұрын
In Toyota Iroad, the front wheels should turn, not the rear. The rear should drive and give speed and that's all.
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
sounds like you got it all figured out.
@manobilli3754 Жыл бұрын
i wish they can bring this in pakistan for girls cars are very expensive it's hard for woman to ride a bike but this is fab for muslim womans who go out to work who have to struggle in buses and rikshaws etc .
@jeffro7p202 Жыл бұрын
Just got some new 285/70/17 at 3 to replace the at2 and i hope they are good in the rain because the at2 sucked bad in the rain but was amazing other than that.
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
I agree the AT2 did suck in wet and snow. The AT3 is much better 👌
@azchieftain6528 Жыл бұрын
Would these Toyo A/T’s out perform the BFG KO2’s & falken wildpeak AT3?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
I did a detailed evaluation during the the development of the AT3. I tested both the K02's and Falken. Their are a few areas that the BFG and Falken did well but from an overall test, the Toyo AT3 out performed both. I personally would go with the new Toyo RT Trail. Even better IMO
@richardmoore2003 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking at AT3s to replace my KO2s on Jeep JLU diesel but I’m very intrigued by the new RT Trails. What are you thoughts on the those?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
I recently tested with Toyo at the Test track evaluating the AT3 to the RT Trail. Toyo keeps improving and I think I found my new favorite tire. The tread design and overall performance was even that much better IMO with the RT Trails 👍 Pavement / Dirt / Wet handling and Ride Comfort scored well.
@richardmoore2003 Жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb thanks for the quick reply. I plan to look at both.
@richardmoore2003 Жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb I was a little concerned about the few extra pounds that the RT Trails weigh over the AT3s for the 35s but I’m thinking with the torque of my diesel engine, it shouldn’t an issue. The RTs seem to be less weight than many other ATs or Hybrid brands and I like the D range instead of E.
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
@@richardmoore2003 Agree. As a test driver even for me, the tire extra weight is very difficult to feel. If I was racing, then I take it more serious.
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
@@richardmoore2003 Anytime, Good luck 😎
@milesruby3271 Жыл бұрын
Nissan Frontier pro-4x, open country at3 or wildpeak at3w?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
Wildpeak used to be my go to but they did a production change and tried to cost cut. Not the tire it once was. I would also consider the Toyo RT trail. 👌
@milesruby3271 Жыл бұрын
@sanddrifterjb wow i didnt know that, and they are more expensive than they used to be.
@glenrolfe5879 Жыл бұрын
You stated some good key points that I look for in a tire. Switching over from KO2's now. Fingers crossed they are a good choice. Ram 3500 mega cab 4x4 works hard and tows heavy. LT285/75 R18
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
Glen - I am not in sales nor do I gain anything from Toyo. I just test tires and I think you will see the improvements over the K02's. Rotate often to keep the road noise at a minimum and if you happen to get in the snow, the AT3 is night and day better! Cheers..
@garzv4127 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic. I love it. I can make it to production with my motorcycle company. Do you have documentation about this???
@rapbaluyut5778 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Looks like there's 2 version of toyo oc at3 for 265 60 18. One has speed rating of H while the other is T. I'm guessing there will be a performance difference between the two?
@acc1tester398 Жыл бұрын
would you still recommend the AT3 if I'm using it 99% of the time in highway driving?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind giving up some MPG and are looking for a bit more of a aggressive tire, then yes.
@acc1tester398 Жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb okay, I'm torn between toyo at3 vs kumho road venture at52 lol, have you tried kumho?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
@@acc1tester398 Not a fan of Kumho. Japanese products are better than China - Korea IMO
@acc1tester398 Жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb ok, just want to know your thoughts, I see some 265 60 18 toyo oc at3 that has T speed rating, maybe it's made in USA, and I see H speed rating for the same size but made in japan. Will there be a performance difference between the two?
@vanya1210 Жыл бұрын
Does this have LSD?
@sanddrifterjb Жыл бұрын
It does not. It is Open front and Rear with an ARB locker and the factory Center diff lock. We tried a spooled rear diff. and it bounded up too much stresing the AWD system. In desert racing locked diffs are the norm, but the AWD system is the exception and the ARB combination was what I prefered.
@maciejpsyk Жыл бұрын
What is the drag Cd*A? That has to be outstandingly low, in the same league as Aptera.
@hhauffe Жыл бұрын
I've fallen in love with the promise of the Nimbus One EV... and this looks very similar. I wonder if this is where Nimbus got part of their inspiration. Sometimes a lighter startup like Nimbus gets off the dime sooner than a much bigger and established company. Thanks for the great insight!
@ออถถ-ซ8ฉ Жыл бұрын
ไม่มีขายเอามาลงทำไหม
@toyotaprius792 жыл бұрын
Toyota never intends to sell EVs. Micro evs especially. That's a problem They're gaining plenty of sales in China, and plenty of interest in Europe for years now.
@shannonriley91582 жыл бұрын
This is great fun but surprisingly gentle compared to growing up near the Mojave and cutting your teeth on the many ravines of the SCV or even Spunky Canyon huh?
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much 👍
@bloggsie452 жыл бұрын
How much do they cost?
@alexaiatlexus32902 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@TruckCamper2 жыл бұрын
Do any of the AT3 tires have a 3 ply sidewall? I've been considering the 37x12.5R18 Load E for our Truck Camper. But concerned about off road durability (especially aired down) regarding sidewall strength. Thanks!
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
E is a 10 ply and if you air down, depending on how loaded down your camper is? you should be fine. I would assume your speed is low aired down.
@TruckCamper2 жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb Correct it's 10 ply. But is the sidewall 2 ply or 3 ply? Most AT tires have 2 ply sidewalls. Sidewall thickness is very important for off road durability especially aired down.
@Icutmetal Жыл бұрын
@@TruckCamper I’m surprised the question was misunderstood. I’ve been wondering the same thing.
@sha6mm2 жыл бұрын
Just picked up a 2022 TRD Pro in Lime Rush and only this I am adding is Rock Sliders from Greenlane Off-road as I live in Iowa and they use a lot of salt in winter. When Tires wear out I will put on a better snow tire. Nice Review.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Lots of Baja fluff but it was a fun week in the TRD Pro. If you have any questions on your Runner shoot me a message. I know well.
@danielmcdaniels2952 жыл бұрын
I have the Goodyear wrangler ultraterrians on my 09 Chevrolet Colorado Extended Cab 4WD and they have lasted almost 50k miles. I'm wondering which tire I should with next. The Toyo open country at3 or the new goodyear wrangler workhorse AT? In the 265/75r16 SL the toyo's weigh 41 each and the workhorse AT'S weigh 39 each.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
The AT3 is a great choice, Cooper also is a pick of mine. I haven't tested the workhorse? I personally wouldn't get hung up on the weight. I would focus on overall performance, ride etc. The tire rack does a pretty good job on their evals and consumer data to find what fits for you. cheers!
@dougjackson80592 жыл бұрын
just wondering why all you testers are not reviewing the nokian outpost at ? what no money in it?
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
Doug - I think it comes down to obtaining product. So to answer your question, yes, no money in it to purchase, mount, balance and rent a test track....
@ryanbeatty24102 жыл бұрын
What engine does it have?
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
stock 5.7L
@METALFACEDOOMXXXX2 жыл бұрын
Never knew jeff goldblum did car reviews 🤔
@aarontolan33862 жыл бұрын
Any chance it is has or will come to US
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
No idea but not likely
@offroadyaris52572 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@sixfootfourmike2 жыл бұрын
I live in South Florida. I would love to get my TRD ORP out there one day.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
I would highly recommend it! I can say I have been to some great off-road and scenic places over the years but nothing compares to Baja. It is a bit like the wild west, you can literally be on the coast and in a few hours be on the gulf side with Hawaiian blue water all driving in remote off-road trails. I can connect you to Baja Voyager who I am very close with if you want to be safe with local experience and see the entirety of the best of Baja! with amazing people!
@itihasbond16222 жыл бұрын
They could be on to a winner!Fun commuting for everyone!in my opinion to succeed with this idea they need to: 1. Have 4 wheels instead of three, and add abs, anti-slip traction control for wet roads. 2. Driving position needs to be more lying down in order to take that high roof line down and it will give better stability as bonus. 3. Needs to be a 2 seater minimum, becaue scooters, bikes are 2 seaters. 4. Top speed need to go up from 45,60 km/h to atleast 110km/h. With sexy EV standout acceleration. 5. Range minimum 150km wltp. 6. Price maximum 15-20.000 dollar/euro. I will book 2, and park them on my 1 car parking spot. thank you very much. 😎
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
It has ABS / Traction control already. It also does have 2 seats in tandem. What it needed was AC, more power and better visibility. I do have to say that besides driving the LFA, it's my second choice to drive since it was so different in every way! Super fun concept!
@itihasbond16222 жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb super. Just a few things to add then. Yes that visibility seems awful. To be global success it needs that capability of wet and snow conditions and 1 rear wheel can be problematic. Even putting a frugal 125-300cc single cylinder scooter engine option would not be bad too realising asian markets and not to worry about the battery(keep costs low)
@davisgreen20992 жыл бұрын
Toyota is foolish not to put this into production!! It's been a concept for years!!
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
I 100% agree but after testing in multiple cities some years ago, Toyota USA had to consider laws that were in place. They also needed to decide if it would go under the motorcycle laws or automobile category. In the end, I think Toyota was on board but the markets, for instance, New York was not ideal for them.
@somethingawesome95472 жыл бұрын
The exhaust is positioned the way it is so that it does not get destroyed from rock crawling. The exhaust is properly located.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your feedback, but 100% disagree on the best location for rock crawling. I have destroyed a number of OE exhaust systems that either hang too low or exit in a not so ideal location over the years. If you back up in a rock section, especially on steep hill climbs, damage to the exhaust is likely. Two things usually happen. 1. The mud flap get ripped off from reverse direction rubbing against the rock and tire. 2. Exhaust touches the rock and gets damaged before the tire gets traction. Take a look at some rock crawl rig builds, no exhaust is visible if correctly routed. Cheers!
@WheresWaldo052 жыл бұрын
I gonna guess the poor 3 peak tire was falken wildpeak at3w. Those tires are absolutely garbage in my Minnesota wintery road conditions. Despite all the hype up of them in 2020 by seemingly everyone. Never again!
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
That just made my day! Nope actually I was speaking about the BFG K02 in my video. They are not good in cold conditions... The Falken however was my number 1 pick when I was testing the AT2 during the development of the Toyo AT3. The crazy thing is I tested an old and new spec (dates) back to back and discovered the sneaky change! I was blown away how my number 1 pick went to number 7. Found out later that Falken did a running change and cost cutting. This changed the tire to complete garbage!! Cheers
@WheresWaldo052 жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb So basically the assumption then is that i likely got the chemical comp changed falken tires which perform worse? Also i cant speak on the ko2 but on my powerstoke that i once had, i had the bf goodrich all terrain t/a before they made the ko2 version. I would say probably slightly better than middle of the road for an all terrain tire. Not sure what they have changed with the newer ko2 though. They performed far better than the falkens on my now f150. Any insights into those predator new mutant x-at tires? Not gonna get them. Too unknown for me. But just curious. They at least look great aesthetically.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
@@WheresWaldo05 You are correct. you have the new (bad) version of the AT3W. Sorry man. As for the BFG they are good tires, especially the race tires but the for some reason the ko2 just gets hard and becomes really loud. No idea on the Predator tire?
@Icutmetal2 жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb I’ve had great luck with my KO2’s in cold and snowy conditions but to be fair, I haven’t had any experience with the AT3 or Falken and understand opinions differ and there are a lot of variables involved.
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
@@Icutmetal You are correct. Variables do differ but all I can comment on is the testing I performed. We do an OEM type evaluation which covers a lot. My experience is that the K02’s performed well in the rocks, high speed gravel roads etc. initially but tend to fade once the rubber compounds get cold and then warm again. When it came to new cold testing however, they had good initial yaw response and directness but was more non linear and much more harsh then most of the competitors. Very firm side wall stiffness feel. Even though I am not a fan of this tire overall, I have only raced on BFG’s and have never let me down. 10 1st place wins in Baja says a lot about the BFGoodrich brand. 🏆🇲🇽👌
@kevinbranshaw72942 жыл бұрын
Talk less, more video!
@0kkin2 жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. Thanks for sharing all of this information with us consumers. I’m looking at the P-metric version of this tire for summer use on our ‘13 LX570. Use case is 95% pavement with the balance on gravel roads and no towing. Do you think I would be better served by these OC AT3’s over something like BFG’s new trail terrain T/A or similar “trail” tires?
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found what you were looking for. As for the LX570 goes, I have a lot of miles in that 200 series. Amazing vehicle. Anyways, I would absolutely go with the AT3 Toyo over the BFG. I tested both in comparison and, although I raced for BFG for years and love the brand, they are not ideal when it comes to the K02. Not sure on the new Trail Terrain? The K02 are great the first 6 months then they start to really change. They get hard and noisy. The AT3 is IMO a better all around tire, especially from a pattern noise side. As for the AT3, as long as you rotate often they will wear well and stay quiet! hope that helps. I would also probably go with the LT since the LX isn't the lightest SUV on the market. The LT looks a way better from the larger side wall lugs then the P-Metric too. Cheers
@0kkin2 жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb Thanks for the detailed reply Joe! We 200-owners are very fortunate to have a professional driver who also reviews/develops tires and races our platform! You're an incredible resource for us. You and I are 100% on the same page about the superior looks of the LT-metric over the P-metric, but I was concerned about a harsh ride with the LT since they are going to be mounted on the OEM 20" rims. Sizing will be 275/60 (33.0" dia.), please let me know if that changes anything with your recommended load rating. Thanks!
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
@@0kkin Thank you for the kind words. I feel after testing both the P-Metric and LT, I don’t think you will notice much if any between the two unless you did a back to back comparison. Even then it’s minimal at best. If your asking what I would do and running the OEM wheel? I would still run the LT, but that is my personal preference. I like the look of the LT much more and would be ok for any minor trade off’s. The RT is also a good choice if you are looking for a bit more aggressive tire below the M/T. All valid points, I think if the 200 was any lighter I might agree more towards the P-Metric. Again totally what I personally would do. Reach out anytime if you have any 200 questions 😎
@0kkin2 жыл бұрын
@@sanddrifterjb Perfect! Thanks for all your help Joe. I'll definitely reach out if I have other questions. Cheers!
@jonathansells5872 жыл бұрын
Should I go w a lt or p metric on tundra
@sanddrifterjb2 жыл бұрын
According to Toyo they say to run the P-Metric for the Tundra's - F150's and the LT for the F250's etc. Check out more of the details on their web site. The biggest clear difference is that the P-Metric tire has less of an aggressive sidewall lug thickness compared to the LT's