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@matheusbravo3758
@matheusbravo3758 2 күн бұрын
The set symbol was an instant giveaway, even before you pulled out the real card i noticed it specifically.
@thaihm
@thaihm 5 күн бұрын
I'm going to guess that the fake and real did their jobs. Make money and they're playable.
@noiselesspain
@noiselesspain 6 күн бұрын
I like how the fake one looks like it has more detail in the art
@kindcam
@kindcam 7 күн бұрын
I’ll take the fake one
@shibbidydoowop
@shibbidydoowop 8 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@Cl0ne66
@Cl0ne66 11 күн бұрын
“One looks more saturated the other looks more dull.” “One looks more matte the other looks more low-gloss.” “One looks muted the other looks more vapid.”
@Dafastso
@Dafastso 13 күн бұрын
fakes are so easy to see because they always print using a 1 pass method. wizards prints using full passes of color then black. thats why their black lines are so sharp. the fakes print it all in one pass, making the entire card carry the same blurry texture even onto the black lines. basically if the black lines look blurry at all, its fake
@noahboat580
@noahboat580 13 күн бұрын
As someone who doesnt play magic, i kinda forget theres a lack of quality assurance with wizards of the coast (i should know, i got a miscut base set Ninetales holographic), but this is sad if the fakes are better quality than the actual product. Judges can easily accept decks that could be partially faked, jewelers loop the winning decks if this is an actual problem in the Magic community
@zdzisawdyrman7789
@zdzisawdyrman7789 18 күн бұрын
The problem is that magic card have no real security features. Compare a magic card that is worth 100 $ with a 100 $ bill. If you do you will see that the 100 $ bill has tons of security features which are very difficult to fake. Magic cards are peaces of paper about which no one cares, not even WOTC.
@magusofthebargain
@magusofthebargain 20 күн бұрын
Good eye! The fake card seems to be a "4th gen" counterfeit, made in China. If you can't get your money back, I recommend writing FAKE on the back in Sharpie, so that this doesn't get accidentally mixed up with your authentic cards.
@edge929
@edge929 20 күн бұрын
I've seen cards flagged as fake but they were actually legit because of Wizard's crappy printing quality, even within the same set. Don't get me started on foils.
@unknownperson2422
@unknownperson2422 21 күн бұрын
I dont care if the card is fake. They have become so damn expensive that at this point buying a cheap ass copy of the card is a better option. Because none of my friends I play with can tell the difference anyways and none of them really care anyways.
@furrygamer6075
@furrygamer6075 21 күн бұрын
The definitive real vs fake card comparison resource.
@tuskiomisham
@tuskiomisham 24 күн бұрын
I'm a real newbie here. How do you know that these differences are signs of a fake vs variations in printing quality?
@joefekete4384
@joefekete4384 24 күн бұрын
Im tryping this when youre showing 5x. Look, digital zoom better speak my natuve language better, because at this point youre a tweaker betting on the set symbols slight color difference and pulling other ghosts out in a strange dance of self-gratification. Edit: ok. Im convinced. Good fakes. I really like the effort that. Goes into good fake cards. Believe it or not, i studied to try and make good fakes for personal amusement only. Not to sell or trade. Its simply fun to try and copy.... Well .. anything perfectly
@davidsastre8724
@davidsastre8724 25 күн бұрын
5:39 Try, if you must 😅
@ssjsongoku29ps4gaming8
@ssjsongoku29ps4gaming8 25 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video and the others on the subject. I received to counterfeit cards, which appear to be from the same printer as yours. Decent quality fakes, but the microscope sold out mine. The black dot on the back had a completely different pattern too which was more obvious than other tests
@nethandelwampa116
@nethandelwampa116 25 күн бұрын
To be fair the print quality I have received from actual wotc cards is actual trash. I have proxy’s from websites that look better than the real deal. Its the equivalent of moders fixing broken video games, where the company refuses to make the game any better
@Hoopr32
@Hoopr32 26 күн бұрын
WIthin 10 seconds you could tell it was fake because of the sheen on the card, and how unnaturally dim it looks for an mtg card.
@munteanucatalin9833
@munteanucatalin9833 28 күн бұрын
This is the reason why I sold all my MtG cards and play Modern using high quality proxies proxies via The League. With $1.000 I can have 5 decks of extremely high quality proxies that can't be spotted even in an offcial tournament setting.
@noctuliusgui
@noctuliusgui 28 күн бұрын
Considering the inconsistencies on WotC printing how can you be so absolute sure that they are not both legit? I mean, If you get a card printed in USA, and the same card, from the same set, printed off-shore, they could be that different from one another and still be legit right?
@DismalDante
@DismalDante 28 күн бұрын
@@noctuliusgui Because all legit cards are printed using the same printing plate that would always result in the same print dot pattern. (angle of the magenta/yellow/cyan/black dots) No matter where it was printed. WotC provides that printing plate to any printing company they want to use. If the print dot pattern doesn't match, it's absolutely not printed with the same printing plate and must be a fake.
@noctuliusgui
@noctuliusgui 28 күн бұрын
@@DismalDante amazing, that's something I didn't kmow. Thanks for this video and the answer, amazing content!
@alexandrebotelho9681
@alexandrebotelho9681 Ай бұрын
How strong are your magnifying lenses? 30x? 50x?
@jamodah280
@jamodah280 Ай бұрын
I received ba fake Force of Negation from a seller on TCG. It looked real but definitely felt different. They quickly refunded my money and the card was sent back to TCG.
@ThePoohat
@ThePoohat Ай бұрын
everyone should play recreations. it is, after all, a recreational game. leave the 'real' cards to the gamblers and investment bankers.
@pleravens
@pleravens Ай бұрын
the holostamp actually looks like it is doing something in this case.
@TehKorwinMikke
@TehKorwinMikke Ай бұрын
Investigating the counterfeit exposes the counterfeit.
@lillymitchell2133
@lillymitchell2133 Ай бұрын
Just gotta add this in but The actual duck! For 1 why are they fake cards and real cards? For 2 who the actual duck gets out a microscope and checks to this level to verify cards? And why!? Its a good video its informative but this is so much hassle to check if a cards real or not and how is anyone suppost to know if they dont have a magnifying glass?
@jared3622
@jared3622 24 күн бұрын
A $10 jewler loop with an led is tiny and easy to come by. I check any card that has $5+ in value that i didnt personally rip from a pack. (Most the fakes ive been sent have been worth less than $10)
@aleckermit
@aleckermit Ай бұрын
When the fake is better than the legit card.
@Sicko-Tron
@Sicko-Tron Ай бұрын
I can make fakes that pass this but I can't fake it so the black dots line up under a microscope lenses but 99% of the time this will be fine
@hydra66
@hydra66 Ай бұрын
Its only a matter of time befoe the proxies are better quality than wotc's
@Lornext
@Lornext Ай бұрын
I could instantly see the fake FoN because of the font. I have seen those before with that slightly uncanny font.
@broodlingg
@broodlingg Ай бұрын
is it bad that I could tell instantly before he said anything that the card he was holding was fake based on the shadow of the set symbol?
@broodlingg
@broodlingg Ай бұрын
oh hey he showed how different they were immediately :0
@vasilisntalapas6391
@vasilisntalapas6391 Ай бұрын
The proxy is better, good job WOTC!
@TRDiscordian
@TRDiscordian Ай бұрын
The easiest thing to see is the fake one is a scan and low quality print (compared to original). When you zoom in you can see what’s effectively jpeg artifacts, which is going to be related to the colour issues. Holo stamp is great. Overall one of the best fake anythings I’ve seen. Edit: Sweet you get into this later, specifically wotc’s printing technique.
@dr.timsmith5539
@dr.timsmith5539 Ай бұрын
MTG IS MADE FOR THE DUMBEST PPL ON THE PLANET TO WASTE THEIR MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IS WORTH LESS THAN 5 CENTS
@rndrecords9832
@rndrecords9832 Ай бұрын
you can see already from the printing when close up, its a fage too grainy
@thesnare100
@thesnare100 Ай бұрын
The more ways get shown to tell if the cards are fake, the more the counterfeiters will try to improve their cards to match. Not saying you SHOULDN'T post videos of how to ID fakes, but they will eventually replicate the pattern shown at 1:59. This is only a temporary way to spot fakes.
@SoopaPop
@SoopaPop Ай бұрын
I will regularly open a booster/prize pack after an event and multiple pulls of the same card looking totally different. Red commons can look anywhere from pink to orange in tone. I have a bunch of Phyrexian text full art lands where the saturation is all over the place. Honestly, I don't think you can observe card coloration with the naked and make any claim about authenticity. You need some extra tools.
@adams8407
@adams8407 Ай бұрын
Question, does the production quality change from print run to print run? or from machine to machine?
@LittleMushroomGuy
@LittleMushroomGuy Ай бұрын
"Hey you don't need any tools! You just need an expensive phone" Nice video....
@sirmegallot3276
@sirmegallot3276 Ай бұрын
Ironically these types of videos help conterfeiters make better quality fakes
@nobodycares1881
@nobodycares1881 Ай бұрын
some bro rn is learning what he needs to add to his counterfeit
@MoikHorst
@MoikHorst Ай бұрын
Quite honestly, it's all the players' own fault that expensive copies are being sold illegally. the players determine the market and the price. If we don't slowly stop asking such crazy prices for a "game card", then we shouldn't be surprised about something like that anymore. I only prox my expensive cards. I don't see the point of paying over €100 for a manacrypt or 400-600 for a dual-land. Everyone should be able to play magic, but that's impossible given the prices. Control your own nose before you get upset about something like that again.
@adrianwakar41
@adrianwakar41 Ай бұрын
where to buy?
@thatonedudedude1450
@thatonedudedude1450 Ай бұрын
Does the green mana dot on the back look legit?
@joesteenblock2483
@joesteenblock2483 Ай бұрын
LOL I've seen more variation in card printing colors from the same case. This is nonsense. You just ripped off some poor guy on ebay.
@Tehstampede
@Tehstampede Ай бұрын
In my experience the fake cards are higher quality than the "real" cards.
@curiouscrow4761
@curiouscrow4761 Ай бұрын
Great video man, very informative... We definitely need videos likes this out there to help prevent scammers...
@FrostyBrows
@FrostyBrows Ай бұрын
thanks, this was helpful to verify some of my cards I bought on ebay.
@Rodrigo-Digao
@Rodrigo-Digao Ай бұрын
Buy counterfeit cards, people. Fuck WotC.