2025 SUZUKI SV650:  V-Twin Magic!
6:23
Пікірлер
@keithw1966
@keithw1966 31 минут бұрын
Why are the stats metric? SAE would be better. No idea what 170km per hr is. Nor do I want to do the math.
@Tapo-walf
@Tapo-walf 2 сағат бұрын
This guy his motto : The definition of can't doesn't exist . i knew about this bike earlier, i was looking for a vw lupo 3l, its a reliable engine which has a lot of torque, ended up finding out about a 3l motorcycle,the lupo 3l itsself had a terrible gearbox, so this will be the best gearbox the engine ever had, good job kees!
@davidyoung9561
@davidyoung9561 2 сағат бұрын
I have a 1969 Honda CB450 (exactly like the one at 5:51). At the time it must have felt lightyears ahead of the Triumph Bonnevilles. My one is a Californian import and is a restoration project.
@simonallan9941
@simonallan9941 2 сағат бұрын
Its just too expensive to run a diesel now days, I have to pay about $90 on just 1000 kilometers for road user charges, which for my Toyota regius van it is equivalent to paying over $3 a liter for the fuel...
@HeyWattsUpCycling
@HeyWattsUpCycling 3 сағат бұрын
torque doesnt matter. only horsepower. common reverse double misconception
@jed-uq4yz
@jed-uq4yz 4 сағат бұрын
Suzuki have made dohc, dry sump all in a daily rider 2006 to today they still make the M109R. 160 nm 😉😉😉
@Keith-hc9js
@Keith-hc9js 11 сағат бұрын
Your Buell nice try Harley Davidson water cooled two stroke two cylinder less five grand new cubic inch your Buell are cc duu don't race your own motorcycle with new motorcycle owner .mine was pretty fast .but put lit into desighn reason motor crank area dident leek no oil in crank areas notice principles of two stroke firing cyclic kinda miss mine but enjoyed my rz ,350 much better was every day ride maintenance free special tools to change oil the fuel gauge would been nice on Harley Davidson Cafe racer by way bought from catalog delivered to door in large box no assembly tools with lots of assembly needed am guessing reading writing comes in handy duu
@mikebailey5127
@mikebailey5127 12 сағат бұрын
Wish they made a trike
@inout3513
@inout3513 15 сағат бұрын
If it was shaft driven I would have one
@xvdd1
@xvdd1 17 сағат бұрын
The CB450 was not Honda's first DOHC engine the CR72,CR77 and CR93 were all DOHC and pre date the Black Bomber by a couple of years these were over the counter racers and legal for the road but still volume production. Honda was no stranger to DOHC as all their racing machines were DOHC up until their withdrawal from GP racing in 1967 the difference in design with the CB450 was using torsion bar valve springs.
@trroland1248
@trroland1248 18 сағат бұрын
In 1965, this bike had near modern performance and drum brakes front and rear. 🤦🏼‍♂️
@kbenham7683
@kbenham7683 19 сағат бұрын
In the early 1970's I had a couple of trail bikes, then realized I was a road rider. I saw a 1971 used CB 450 for sale. gold with a black tank stripe, a mini 750. 1971 was when both the 450 and 750 came to full classic style and mechanical development. Later, I had a Triumph Daytona and could see the best of 500cc British and Japanese side by side. The Daytona was fun, light, good sounding and handling but if I was doing a long ride, I took the Honda. A friend had a Bonneville, perfect for backroad fun, maybe the best balanced, sexy, responsive bike, but Lucas electrics, Amal carbs and a tendency to shed parts. I rode the 450 for a couple to years and sold it for more than I paid. If I still had it, I see I could sell it for a couple of thousand more than I paid, a great bike and good investment.
@nicolasp7395
@nicolasp7395 20 сағат бұрын
dammm! For sure i would buy one! Love diesel whereever!
@suzukibandit4189
@suzukibandit4189 21 сағат бұрын
1969…bin ich mit einer CB 450 zur Isle of man gefahren. Auf dem Mountain Course habe ich ca.10 Runden zurückgelegt. Das Fahrwerk und die Bremsen waren sehr abenteuerlich.Ich habe es überlebt.
@gutsbiker
@gutsbiker Күн бұрын
I had the pleasure of owning a 73 & 74 CB 450. I loved riding those bikes, but they required a lot of maintenance and there was a problem with the valve adjustment after 20,000 miles.
@scottw550
@scottw550 Күн бұрын
That 2-cylinder motor looks huge from the side, when compared to the 70s Kawasaki 900 4 banger.
@joesutherland225
@joesutherland225 Күн бұрын
The first dohc that i remember was a yamaha 500 twin. On the streets at least
@lelandsmith8111
@lelandsmith8111 Күн бұрын
The engine was a technical marvel, but it was a slug on acceleration, and the CB450 could not stay close to my Suzuki X6 Hustler in 1/8 mile dragstrips. The 250cc X6 was quick in it's day.
@junkmangeorge6363
@junkmangeorge6363 2 күн бұрын
Looking back, it is unfortunate that Honda took their time getting the OHC timing chain, guides, and adjuster up to the quality of the rest of the engine. Because that is what happened to each and every one of them, anytime after 40,000 miles was attained, the whole thing blew to pieces.
@MrSkeptik-z5r
@MrSkeptik-z5r 2 күн бұрын
I had that same colour CB500T 30 years ago, great bike, never let me down, just had to keep a check on the long camchain and torsion bar valve spring clearance of 1 thou/inch, not an easy adjustment but otherwise bullet proof.
@alandavies55
@alandavies55 16 сағат бұрын
the 500 was reliable for a high mileage which the 450 certainly was not.
@daveapplemotors
@daveapplemotors 2 күн бұрын
"Wa sec co" - Did you mean Wiseco pistons? I bailed out on this video at 6:05 due to that.
@cerealtiller
@cerealtiller 2 күн бұрын
DOUBLE OVERHEAD CAMSHAFT...Not every Viewer would know what the DOHC Abbreviation meant. nearly good.
@wilsta67
@wilsta67 2 күн бұрын
King of the baggers are just a few seconds behind super bikes
@Thelivewire64
@Thelivewire64 2 күн бұрын
I want one!
@Silversmith925
@Silversmith925 2 күн бұрын
AI videos suck !!
@southafricanwithaphone4657
@southafricanwithaphone4657 2 күн бұрын
That torque is crazy mate not even hyperbike has that torque,everyone thinks the hp or kw is the shit but i bet this thing will smoke a lot of modern bikes.
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 2 күн бұрын
I remember their advent well. Lovely engine, and those single torsion bar valve springs were really 'different'. Pity the frame wasn't a bit better.
@agostinhomatos321
@agostinhomatos321 2 күн бұрын
The brakes were terrible, better never have an accident with these old bikes. Great looks, great sound, but unsafe by today standards. I had a CB360, at least it had a front disk brake.
@allamar9083
@allamar9083 2 күн бұрын
Was riding a Bonnie for street at the time and a Bultaco in the desert . 2 friends came by the house ,one on a 305 one on a new Black Bomber. . Southern Cal before idiots were elected. They talked me into riding the 450. After a few miles around Chatsworth Lake Reservoir I wanted one. I almost feel this thing would pull my 650 Triumph. Smooth as glass and shifting like a dream. Brakes (drums) actually worked. Nice ,still remember it. Out of reach today ,I got old.
@frankmlchaelglasscock6539
@frankmlchaelglasscock6539 2 күн бұрын
I am sorry you have got that wrong the 165 and the 305 where the bikes that shook British bikes
@jimpalmer1969
@jimpalmer1969 2 күн бұрын
I have a '72 CB450 K5 with about 2K on it and love it. Runs great and is a blast to ride.
@svgs650r
@svgs650r 2 күн бұрын
Remember when Mr Daytona rode that turd into the hot-pit and before the chain-drive wallet crew could climb over pit wall he just unceremoniously dropped the POS on the ground and left 🤣
@ballockybill2277
@ballockybill2277 2 күн бұрын
I had a CD200 Benly. Great little bike!
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers 2 күн бұрын
No kidding
@zenscapeUKmedia
@zenscapeUKmedia 2 күн бұрын
Very odd bike. Far too heavy, with leaf valve springs. Not much more power than a CB350 but more torque. It was a stop gap for the CB750 which killed off everything - smaller bikes included. I don't see what the ecitement for the rather boring CB450 was all about.
@IanM18
@IanM18 4 сағат бұрын
Torsion bars not leafs.
@Interdiction
@Interdiction 2 күн бұрын
Hardly a new idea . A guy has built one using the vw 1.9pd diesel . 180 hp but in a low rider form .
@robert-wr6md
@robert-wr6md 3 күн бұрын
It is not remembered as one of the most influential motorcycles in history.
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers 2 күн бұрын
It very much is.
@robert-wr6md
@robert-wr6md 2 күн бұрын
@@SchoolforHackers I'm not saying it isn't worth owning. But it hardly even ranks in the top 100. What was influential about it? Who did it influence? Not engine designers. No one ever adopted torsion bars in the valve train. Errrrrrr....what else.....errrrrr.... twin cylinder? Hardly. Errrrr.....I'm strugling help me out.
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers 2 күн бұрын
It a time of pushrod twins, it had not just OHC, but DOHC, which the 4-cylinder motors didn’t have for years. I lived those times. I remember when this bike came out, and when the H1 came out, spelling the doom of British twins.
@robert-wr6md
@robert-wr6md 2 күн бұрын
@@SchoolforHackers Fair enough, it never really impressed in the UK. It was heavier than a Bonneville, no faster, still had four gears, didn't handle very well and was more expensive. The writing was on the wall that's for sure. Doom indeed.
@SchoolforHackers
@SchoolforHackers 2 күн бұрын
@@robert-wr6md I never had a 4 speed one, but my ‘72 was wicked fast for the era. 750-4s were easy to challenge, but yes the damn things were heavy and didn’t handle like my sweet 400-4 for instance. I worked at a motorcycle shop that sold Suzuki, BMW, Triumph and Norton,and I rode them all. Switching shifter sides wasn’t that hard; only the Beemers felt odd. But the way the Triumphs handled was just so sweet! The iron cylinders sort of concentrated weight at the center, and I don’t think I’ve ever cornered on anything as fast. While my H1 was utterly terrifying to ride all the time: the power curve was like a Cliff, weight was way too far back making wheelies inevitable, and the way the frame wound up and down through corners put teeth marks in my heart. All influential bikes, but very few I would own again. ;)
@scottadams6245
@scottadams6245 3 күн бұрын
This Savage was known as the 'Cabbage' in the UK. Treated with scorn and ridicule it sold in very low numbers. These posts are the first time I've ever heard anything positive about it! I love a good thumper but this isn't one of them. Sorry.
@mikvagn
@mikvagn 3 күн бұрын
Got 3 xs1100 - great bikes
@gwwayner
@gwwayner 3 күн бұрын
This engine had a really mean sound to it especially at high revs. I think most problems people had with this bike were due to bad maintenance like not using proper oil or not changing it often enough. It was as fast as most British 650s of the time. Of course most 400cc motorcycles today are 'starter' bikes!
@pashakdescilly7517
@pashakdescilly7517 3 күн бұрын
A friend of mine had one. After a lot of miles, the cam drive sprocket at the centre of the crank wore out. For a while, he did a full engine strip every 1000 miles to replace the cam chain. Finally it got too much and he scrapped the bike.
@will7its
@will7its Күн бұрын
Boooooo........
@Barnabasanon
@Barnabasanon 3 күн бұрын
The CB450 was really a good bike. I wish I had one today! QA friend of mine tried everything he could to "destroy" that engine, but it never failed!
@darkknight1340
@darkknight1340 3 күн бұрын
You would think that a manufacturer that made its living designing and manufacturing large capacity V-twin motors could at least come up with a competitive bike,much like Ducati,or Honda,whose first attempt at a V- twin racer aced it against Ducati.Harley Davidson had the template already with "Lucifer's hammer",they should have gone from strength to strength,but I imagine that they didn't commit the level of resources necessary to maintain and develop a factory race division.
@davidreed9217
@davidreed9217 3 күн бұрын
The CB450 had a wierd engine, valves closed by torsion springs not coil springs. This is totally against where Sochiro Honda came from as he spent years refining coil springs to work at high rpm.
@DonMason-cv6og
@DonMason-cv6og 14 сағат бұрын
He spent time refining faulty piston rings. The torsion bar valve mechanism was an Earlier German Design. Many of his bikes were based on those designs because of reliability the dual ohc was a 1950s Horex
@martinbrookes1372
@martinbrookes1372 3 күн бұрын
What a load of bull-hit ! I knew two brother who bought CB450s new , with very mixed experiences . One was quite quick and reliable ( after he put decent tyres and rear shocks on it ) although the ground clearance was always a factor . The other brother had nothing but trouble and was happy to get rid of his .
@stevenbatley8666
@stevenbatley8666 3 күн бұрын
New version of this bike would be great
@paulfuller8985
@paulfuller8985 3 күн бұрын
This video is completely misinformed . The CB 450 was not , in any way Honda's first DOHC motorcycle . Honda were making DOHC engines as early as the late 1950s . Admittedly , they were racing engines . Honda first entered The Isle of Man TT races in 1959 with a team of six 125 DOHC twins . I think at least five of them finished the race and they won the team prize . All of Honda's 1960s race bikes were DOHC . In the early 1960's Honda produced a 125 race bike that was for sale to Honda dealers . It was called the CR93 . It was very successful . In order for it to be eligible for racing in America , they made 200 street models with the same engines . A very pretty little bike . The guys that make these videos should do a lot more research before putting them out there . READ SOME BOOKS .LOOK AT THE PRETTY PICTURES . 🤓
@pashakdescilly7517
@pashakdescilly7517 3 күн бұрын
The commentary did say MASS PRODUCED dohc machine.
@jimpalmer1969
@jimpalmer1969 2 күн бұрын
Paul, pay attention, it is the first mass produced DOHC in automotive or motorcycles.
@will7its
@will7its Күн бұрын
@@jimpalmer1969 You may want to look into the automotive side of your comment.
@jimpalmer1969
@jimpalmer1969 Күн бұрын
@@will7its There were DOHC automobiles built before the CB450 DOHC was designed in 1964. To my knowledge, none of them were mass produced and priced for the average person to buy. Hondas never released production numbers for this bike, but knowledgeable people place it around 200,000 units. The later bikes sold for about $1,050. Let me know if you have information that contradicts this statement. I don't know everything and I'm always interested in learning. This bike was so revolutionary that is was banned FIM from competing in the 1966 Motorcycle Production Race at Brands Hatch UK. FIM said the DOHC torsion bar valve springs were too much like a racing bike. In reality it was whipping the British 500 and 650 cc bikes. BTW, I was in high school when this was going on and have memories about it.
@tezzrterry7485
@tezzrterry7485 3 күн бұрын
I have 2, a road K1, and a race 450/500cc. The engine vibrates a bit, but so does all the other twins of the era. Well developed race engines can produce 70+HP, and beat 600, and 750 twins. The torsion bar valve "springs" are only OK on a road bike.
@DonMason-cv6og
@DonMason-cv6og 14 сағат бұрын
Todd Henning built those 78 rear wheel hp. He could race in 1000 cc class
@tezzrterry7485
@tezzrterry7485 13 сағат бұрын
@@DonMason-cv6og These engines and the CB350, have been developed a lot further by Euro and British tuners since then.
@DonMason-cv6og
@DonMason-cv6og 13 сағат бұрын
@@tezzrterry7485 the were built for street use. Detuned yet some racers found their potential and increased the output.
@drdoolittle5724
@drdoolittle5724 3 күн бұрын
Nothing to say other than, PERFECTION!
@MichaelFlavin-y3g
@MichaelFlavin-y3g 3 күн бұрын
If my memory serves me correctly I was at the Pomona Superbike race where Chris Carr put the VR on the pole. Unfortunately he DNF'd in the race.
@antbonyziemiak208
@antbonyziemiak208 3 күн бұрын
Funny you never mentioned the “technological advanced” desmodic valve adjustment “feature”. Honda NEVER used it again. A friend of mine sold his old CB450 that had been sitting in his garage for decades to some engineering students for a class project. $50.00. I passed because of the “desmotic”valve adjustment. Could have been why the other commenter’s bike blew at 7000 miles. I prefer low rpm torquey engines rather than buzz-bombs, like my 01 W-650. The “W” stands for WONDERFUL !!!
@jimpalmer1969
@jimpalmer1969 2 күн бұрын
Just to be technically correct, desmotic valves are valves that are closed by the use of a separate cam and rocker that positively closes the valve instead of a more conventional valve spring. Ducati is the only manufacturer that I know of (yep I don't know everything) that has used it in production. What the CB450 DOHC has is an eccentric pivot pin in the cam rocker that adjusts the valve lash. The CB350 Twin of the same vintage uses a very similar eccentric design. I've owned a lot of Hondas over the years and this has never been an issue.
@antbonyziemiak208
@antbonyziemiak208 2 күн бұрын
Thank you for clarifying that. I had a CB350 that I rode across the country from Fayetteville North Carolina to San Berndino California. I let the bike sit for a few weeks without changing the oil, and then drove North , got to Thousand Oaks when the piston broke up. I was young and dumb. Had I known that I could adjust the valves on my friends CB450 I might have bought it off him. But it wasn’t stock , no nice gas tank and mini ape hangers and such. Had it looked like in the video I probably would have. Thanks for sharing your knowledge sir !!
@cerealtiller
@cerealtiller 2 күн бұрын
@@jimpalmer1969 Torsion Bars instead of Coil Valve Springs?
@jimpalmer1969
@jimpalmer1969 Күн бұрын
@@cerealtiller Not sure what your question is. A torsion bar and coil spring have a lot in common. Both twist the spring wire to provide spring tension.
@DonMason-cv6og
@DonMason-cv6og 14 сағат бұрын
​@@jimpalmer1969coil springs compress. Torsion bars twist