They're Op.60 and 61.

Kleiber non dirige la IV di Beethoven bensì la 42 di Mozart,composta da Amade' dopo aver tracannato un paio di bottiglie di Barbera d'Asti.😂😂😂.

QUe penser de ceci devant la "fadasserie" de Mutter et Karajan Rien à voir de 1 à 100 incomparable kzbin.info/www/bejne/bYGxlmWCmK6VbKs&ab_channel=cgoroo

quel est le propos pour deux oeuvres différentes avec une interprète assez "fadasse" il faut bien l'avouer Vous n 'aviez pas une version de la 4° par Karajan ??

本当に20世紀後半の大巨匠だ！信じられない高潔、高邁な音楽創造の力❤

CK embraced the music, the orchestra, the audience and at least the world

クライバー/コンセルトヘボウ４番はともかく、カラヤン/ベルリンフィル、ムッターのVn.conはひたすらレガート至上主義でくだらない。抹消したほうがいい。

Von Karajan once said that Carlos Kleiber only conducted when his freezer was empty..

vK

Aha I met one of The 12 Cellists in Central HK. It was very nice because I like this magnificent piece of music of you so much. 👏👏 At the present, I am in London. Hopefully we, The 12 Cellists and me, will meet in London soon.

Never knew that when Karajan finally decided to appoint a successor his choice was Kleiber…too bad he waited so long to retire, if he hadn’t Kleiber might have accepted and then we might have had a interesting change of pace .

Wow! So good!

クライバーさんの　 優雅な指揮にブラボー　そして最高❗

遂にベートーヴェンに回帰した！Eventually I could come back to Beethoven again!

Wonderful...however can spot the Mass isn't the tradional Mass. No prayers at the foot of the altar. No altar server. The priest, deacon and sub deacon would only be offering Mass on the High Altar. The side altars would be only a priest singing a Missa Cantata. There is no sung parts for the priest and no singing of the collects.

Inimitabile

Also Carlos Kleiber for me was often a true dancer ..

Here after sainz won his first f1 race

What a delicious sound from HvK!!

Von Karajan for ever Maestro of all Maestros!! Exceeds absolute perfection!!

Excelente interpretación gracias

💜💐

Trust El Plan

I dunno, one was a Nazi, the other wasn't?

In the midst of all these appraisals, let me speak a different voice here : although there is no doubt this is one of the best - if not the best - celli section in the world, and I fully agree with all that’s been said about their tone, articulation, vibrato and overall ensemble playing, I would certainly not say this is the best Pavane or the best arrangement of it. Actually, I don’t like the arrangement. It is very monotonous. Fauré’s music is not Mahler’s, it is delicate and needs subtlety and not permanent tutti playing… there are some parts in the middle where I don’t hear anything anymore, it gets muddy because too many lines play together without contrats, and no voice leading. Yet the result is overall good because the music is great and the players are outstanding. But with a more edgy, precise and accurate arrangement it could have been magical…. think about how Bartok would have arranged it ! Or Ravel ! There were a lot of different colors to be found with 12 cellists of this caliber :-)

👏 again

Kleiber is still untouched by any other conductor in his musical insights and ability to inspire an orchestra to perform miracles of expressiveness.

Fantastic! Suurenmoinen, Kristiina!

Das ist eine glatte Zumutung. Nimmt das Orchester gerade Fahrt auf und eine der interessanten Passagen kommt ...kommt Werbung und anschließend v. Karajan mit dem Violinkonzert. Also nein! Alle Liebhabern der 4. zur Warnung.

Wouldn’t wanted to get stuck in a lift with Kleiber, but he shure was a genius!

💐

He is dancing to the music. Love love it.!!!!!!

Ausgezeichnet!

As far as I know, Kleiber never accompanied any soloists.

Virtuosité, performance vocale, musique fantastique. La très belle Vivica nous enchante.

...R E L A J A N T E ...

FORMIDABILA VIVICA!

Tendria usted que haberle cantado a Vivaldi...En aquellos dias.

Dios, qué fantasía de variaciones 🥰🥰🥰🥰

Lindo

Is that the Tristan chord at1,18 42 and 1.57?........?.....?. Anyone

браво брависсимо!!!

Beethoven violin concerto is the most annoying piece of music in history...

ОЧЕНЬ КРАСИВАЯ МУЗЫКА !!!!!!!!!

Divina! Vivica sempre fabulosa.

Che orchestre favolose!

👏

Two legends and two kings ❤❤

KLEIBER è LA MUSICA PERFETTA. VON KARAJAN è L INTERPRETE PERFETTO

Siempre ejecuta MUY BUENAS interpretaciones esta francesa Vivica !!!!....me agrada el timbre lírico de su voz y estilo, casi todos los videos de esta GRAN mezzoSoprano las veo y escucho...