Hey Mars, I’m really curious if you use a Laskey mouthpiece at all? And what model do you use instead? I play a laskey 725g both American and European shanks depending on what horn I play at the time. Great work! Love the video on circular breathing!
@marsgelfo10 сағат бұрын
thanks for the kind words! Yeah sometimes I play a Laskey 775F but it's a little bright for me. Currently play a Warburton, i don't remember the model. Not much of an equipment guy.
@zachypoo710 сағат бұрын
@@marsgelfo same here! I just play on the Laskey because my teacher David Griffin of the Chicago symphony uses that and it works for me too haha. 🤣 all the best Mars!
@darrellmoore17435 күн бұрын
I believe vocal temperament will in the future become industry standard.😊
@JonGoldstein195429 күн бұрын
Dizzy would be proud.
@marsgelfo29 күн бұрын
he sure would!
@somebody9033Ай бұрын
OK but why's no-one talking about that double B flat!!!!!!
@mooshroommoonАй бұрын
My lowest note before continuing to watch this video is a pedal F#. Right now my double horn is broken so I can't play the F below it but I will keep trying to reach that F.
@davidalexander8370Ай бұрын
Did you just play 0:15 - 0:26 in one breath? Wow!
@marsgelfoАй бұрын
yep! that's the best way!!!!
@HornMoufАй бұрын
31:49 time stamp for the start of the note accuracy talk
@mkolsteeАй бұрын
Damn, you're sexy!
@raphaelhudsonАй бұрын
This sounds so simple, but it's bloody brilliant Mars. This thought instantly helped me to an incredible extent. I'm not going to lie, I'm going to ignore you recommendations at the end re progression, I seem to be able to apply it instantly. Thanks so much for this!
@marsgelfoАй бұрын
happy to hear that Raphael!!! sometimes instant application is possible, that said I really feel like slowing down with building blocks can be world changing
@yoho1021Ай бұрын
On a double horn
@AvaAustin-fx5ycАй бұрын
I love this!!! As a horn player of just under a year, I find this so inspirational and my incentive to keep playing. My goal is to play at this level, and I think the motivation this fuels me with will help me achieve that. Thank you :)
@avrumgolub27352 ай бұрын
Good Morning, Mars, and thank you for this approach. Having just played a concert that included Tchaik 6 (without an assistant), I used a combination of pooching out my lips and opening toy mouth wide (almost like a scream) to reinvigorate my embouchure. I will try your antidote and let you know how things go. ~Avrum
@heathers57852 ай бұрын
Thank you for pointing out that we're all different and differences in embouchure can be ok. It sounds so simple but I realized I was fighting my own body when you said that.
@thegoodgeneral2 ай бұрын
Incredibly high range but what is with that background
@marsgelfo2 ай бұрын
just my collection of AI-generated french horn universes. can't have a boring background can we?
@thegoodgeneral2 ай бұрын
@@marsgelfo I think you could, your chops speak for themselves… don’t need a wild background setup lmao
@marsgelfo2 ай бұрын
@@thegoodgeneral thanks for the kind words re: chops! i guess I just like my galactic horn universe background - everyone's got their style.
@heidioros51242 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@marsgelfo2 ай бұрын
welcome!
@BrassBro-Science-ys7sg2 ай бұрын
Tounge is "doing it's job" you say. What "job" is that ?
@Emmanuel-a-012 ай бұрын
What does tce stand for?
@arcisas2 ай бұрын
tongue controlled embouchure
@BrassBro-Science-ys7sg2 ай бұрын
As long as the air flows inro the cup on each pulse "direction" is irrelevant. Attempting to manipulate the "direction" changes the lip posture and therefore the frequency of pulsation.
@marsgelfo2 ай бұрын
i think we're saying the same thing, but you're clarifying that the angle ("direction") is mechnically changing how the lips vibrate, which supports higher or lower frequencies, yes? what i'm saying is that for most players, leadpipe angle changes throughout the range when playing at optimal efficiency.
@BrassBro-Science-ys7sg2 ай бұрын
@@marsgelfo yes. The state of the lips controls the frequency of the pulsation that matches the resonance of the particular insrument partial. Of course pitch also has nothing directly to do with air pressure or tonge position either. Not in a causative sense that is.
@TheJudgeOfGood2 ай бұрын
guy is working on high D * "just squal a double c and it will be easier"
@user-cl9md4kv2m2 ай бұрын
Is that Messi ?
@georgH2 ай бұрын
"I just need to know the piece, rhythms and tricky passages" I think this summarizes any complex piece😅 Good idea I'll trying singing through the horn whole practicing 👍
@IanKille-vy7uo2 ай бұрын
Interesting - have had the exact same coaching point made for singing!
@albertpefley14123 ай бұрын
Very cool - my friend and fellow alphorn player from Vacaville
@marsgelfo3 ай бұрын
small world!
@Carpediem-bl4dq3 ай бұрын
forsen
@quack20243 ай бұрын
some parts sound like that bit in variations on korean folk song
@marsgelfo3 ай бұрын
thanks!
@geminimusicstudios91973 ай бұрын
Balanced Embouchure by Jeff smiley
@marsgelfo3 ай бұрын
@geminimusicstudios9197 I believe that Jeff Smiley is the one who coined the term "roll in" and "roll out" as well as "drag down". My opinion is that while he did us a great service by doing so, thank goodness these are now fairly standard terms in brass pedagogy and don't need to be capitalized or origin-storied every time they are mentioned. If you want to read my full list of acknowledgements & credit for the system of high range liberation that I teach, and why I don't mention Balanced Embouchure every time I make content, please see this public post: facebook.com/groups/936224677134174/permalink/1258636548226317/
@AKoribut3 ай бұрын
Looks like sorcery to me... I am a violinist)
@marsgelfo3 ай бұрын
haha it FEELS like sorcery to me when I do it :)
@carlw3 ай бұрын
What is that mouthpiece?? Looks somewhat familiar. Stork?
@snrnsjd3 ай бұрын
The air stream never goes straight into the shank. If the upper lip is more inside the mouthpiece the the air goes down. If the low lip is more in the mouthpiece ( like trumpeters ) then air hits up.
@snrnsjd3 ай бұрын
Would be great if it was available for Android also.
@PaulTarussov3 ай бұрын
I can answer this one! The airstream never goes directly into the mouthpiece shank (you wouldn't get any sound). The more you play into the upper register, the closer the airstream hits to the rim of the mouthpiece (as Mars says here, more "down" as you ascend in the upper register), and the lower you play, the closer it moves to "straight" into the shank of the mouthpiece. (For an upstream player, it's reversed, which is why I say "closer to the rim of the mouthpiece" instead of "further down" - for such a player, it's more and more up.) This is pretty key for range development. However, we don't really "feel" this when playing. Most brass players (myself included) describe the sensation of playing with control and ease as "blowing straight down the mouthpiece". It's important not to confuse sensations with what is really happening (as with so many things in brass playing, our biosensory feedback isn't reliably what you'd expect it to be). (Sidenotes: First, buzzing with a rim/visualizer is not always a reliable test of what the airstream does - without the cup of the mouthpiece, it's not always the same as when playing the horn. Second, horn angle/direction does not dictate airstream direction - you can lower the horn and be blowing "up" and vice-versa. Mars, if you look at my octave slurs video, you'll see my adjustment is the opposite - I changed this to get more power in the upper register.) Nice to see people chatting about this! Cheers to you both.
@raphaelhudson3 ай бұрын
Can you explain what you mean about if the air went down the shank we wouldn't get sound ? Would you need an underbite to have an upstream flow? So is it just jaw position? I feel like there is a big change in angle depending on whether I totally seal the tongue to the teeth almost to the rim, or play beyond the teeth as per tge or allow my tongue to sit lower and control air speed more at the molars. If I control at molars it seems like it goes down bounces under the lower teeth and then goes up, tongue guided with tongue on lower lip also goes up, while tongue pinned to the teeth goes down. But honestly I don't know if my feeling is accurate
@PaulTarussov3 ай бұрын
@@raphaelhudson those are fairly involved questions! Probably best not to be sorting it out in comments here. Feel free to send me a note elsewhere if you wish.
@marsgelfo3 ай бұрын
wow @paultarussov5961 this is awesome!!
@snrnsjd3 ай бұрын
Good comment Paul! 👏🏻 In tuba players you can find some players that use both upstream and downstream playing, basically they swich, depending on the register. There is a video on yt about this.
@PaulTarussov3 ай бұрын
@@snrnsjd this is true! It's not a good idea, but some people do it. (In the extreme low register, you can get away with all kinds of stuff, of course, but it's still going to chip away at consistency of technique.)
@dahVEEDBBone3 ай бұрын
What is the cost of this Horn course? Thank you.
@gregperron97444 ай бұрын
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@kellygarwood63084 ай бұрын
I use circular breathing for after beats.
@ookjai4 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing!!!
@kn-qz7by4 ай бұрын
Nice! More French Horn bossa nova, please!
@amandawaters9044 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing all of this. I remember in high school playing horn in jazz band. My music teacher thought it was great. However, I was ridiculed by adjuticators when we competed. Ultimately, we were scored lower. I love the horn and different genres of music. You are doing awesome work! Feeling inspired to bring horn to other genres!
@KevinGenus4 ай бұрын
Mozart's wrote all sorts of notes to Leutgeb in the manuscript... these concertos are suppose to be joyously playful, but I've never heard a horn player capture this like Sergio Azzolini. If you listen to Azzolini perform the first movement of Mozart Bassoon Concerto No. 1 and still have baggage, then watch it again. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKTbY6pvr9KVY5I
@marsgelfo4 ай бұрын
yes! get musicianship, thanks for sharing
@ericdugas73325 ай бұрын
Always very very interesting
@kachowski99975 ай бұрын
Awesome!!!11111!!!!!111!
@carlw5 ай бұрын
Yes, tension is definitely the killer
@manuelgonzales64835 ай бұрын
😌
@swimr572126 ай бұрын
Yeah!
@ericdugas73326 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@avrumgolub27356 ай бұрын
"Understanding what you can do ... appropriate sense of margin ... narrowing the the margins" - excellent advice. Know thyself. And, consider, as humans, let alone Horn players, margins may vary day-to-day, but soon one's margins can/will narrow. Thank you, Mars.