I just pulled off my 2023 super deluxe ultimate coil, after 18 months and thousands of miles. Was deciding on rebuilding it, or buying the upgrade kit to vivid. Any chance you’re making a video on that? Think it’s worth the $200 to upgrade? I feel like it probably is worthy. Thx for posting.
@ButterSuspension14 күн бұрын
Well, you'll have to rebuild the shock to install the upgrade, so that's the best time to do it. Just know you won't get the hydraulic bottom out feature, only HSC and LSC.
@michaeljordan308414 күн бұрын
@ my 23 has the hydronic bottom out already. So does the upgrade disable it somehow?
@ButterSuspension14 күн бұрын
@@michaeljordan3084no, sorry. There's a few different versions of these shocks, and not all of them have HBO. I just wanted to be sure you knew the HBO isn't part of the reservoir upgrade.
@jtsimaras22 күн бұрын
Hmm wonder if this is possible with a 2022 Pike 150mm 27.5 travel? No idea is the stanchions are the same length from 27.5 to 29er. Thanks for the video
@ButterSuspension22 күн бұрын
2022 should work, yes. Send me the serial number and I can look it up for you. [email protected]
@jtsimaras21 күн бұрын
@@ButterSuspension Thank you for your reply I ended up finding an unbelievable deal on a New 2023 Pike Ultimate 29er 140mm with buttercups :)
@automataFrank25 күн бұрын
So far i notice some parts are the same for old suspension.. It's possible to build 1 Frankenstein fork suspension?
@ButterSuspension25 күн бұрын
They definitely use some random bits from all over the place, but they're also a factory so they can make whatever they need to get stuff to fit.
@allentufts5185Ай бұрын
Very cool tear down! Love seeing these older custom forks being pulled apart for examination. Clean build for sure, sad they were never sent to production!
@ButterSuspensionАй бұрын
I need to put these back together! Acquired a second set that I just sold so I wanna have another complete on the wall.
@mikesollish3348Ай бұрын
Thanks for the most valuable information! A must save video for sure.
@keitatsutsumi46292 ай бұрын
High idle is to run the pump and other equipment needed on emergency scenes.
@prithvikanchan97812 ай бұрын
How much of difference will a bike make in terms of riding and frame strength if we increase the travel from 170 to 190
@ButterSuspension2 ай бұрын
Changing travel on a frame doesn't change the strength...but changing from a 170 travel frame to a 190 travel frame it really depends on who makes the frame.
@Chardmomma2 ай бұрын
Can I increase the shock stroke of Fox float X2 factory 2022 size 7.875x2.0 to 2.25? (.25 increase) and how? Thanks in advance.
This is great. Question - if I'm just trying to swap the shaft/eyelet assembly, is it possible to remove the shaft and refill the oil without doing a full disassembly of the damper body? Basically reverse what you did up until about min 9:00? Or does the damper need to be refilled with oil through the piggyback and IFP?
@ButterSuspension2 ай бұрын
No, the shaft has the main piston/shim stack attached to the damper shaft behind the main seal head; the only way to swap the shaft is to disassemble the whole assembly, so that requires most of a rebuild.
@cebolinhaa_rt2 ай бұрын
I have a vanilla Fox like this, is it good?
@ButterSuspension2 ай бұрын
Great fork!
@Island_Jigging2 ай бұрын
Nice!!! Where do you buy the parts?
@ButterSuspension2 ай бұрын
I got some parts from motozip.net
@IRFIndustries2 ай бұрын
I still have mine (not in use). I was running it in 99/2000 when forks had gotten a lot better and 6" had become the norm. Mine has a non adjustable damper and I upgraded the elastomers to spring. The only two small positives to these was the look and the fact you could reduce travel using elastomers to 5" or 4" fairly easily. Probably great in Californian sun but horrendous on British courses, they needing stripping after every race.
@monkeymule12862 ай бұрын
Looking at one of these for carpentry worktruck replacement... 2yrs down the road, how many miles have you put on and how do you feel about it?
@ButterSuspension2 ай бұрын
I'm around 25k miles now. It's great, but I'm looking at another car to daily drive. This thing is a tank, but gutless. Also, no a/c is gonna suck as the planet burns hotter. But I still love it, probably won't ever sell it.
@monkeymule12862 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspensionThanks for the reply mate. I tend to drive trucks like they're horseless carriages anyhow, so a lack of punch is fine:) I take it, sourcing parts or finding a mechanic hasn't been crippling in anyway?
@robertnielsen75622 ай бұрын
Too wordy
@ButterSuspension2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@joshtucker95623 ай бұрын
Where did you get that fancy shrader tool? DVO shows the same looking one in their service manual and I can't seem to find it in my numerous google searches.
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
It's from an OLD Marzocchi tool kit; I got mine from a buddy that gifted me the kit. Ronnie, the guy in the DVO video, worked at Marzocchi USA back in the day. It's a neat tool but a shock pump works pretty well too...
@joshtucker95622 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspensionappreciate the feedback. Wasn't sure how much effort was required to yank it out.
@shaman23843 ай бұрын
In 2024 many people use these forks over 300$ forks.
@collinmcballin3 ай бұрын
I have some drawings for a linkage fork... Gotta make it look awesome is the fun part haha
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
I really want to make a "modern" long travel 29'r Amp style fork, just for fun.
@Juos10kustu3 ай бұрын
the seals are too expensive for me. is there any cheap ones from china that fit ? what is the outer diameter ?
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
These forks deserve quality seals. Cheap seals don't work well, and won't last long.
@Juos10kustu3 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspension i have cheap seals on my sherman and its working just fine
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
@@Juos10kustuI got nothing, sorry.
@Juos10kustu3 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspension thanks anyways.
@IamTheFilmIndustry3 ай бұрын
And we're back. So great to hear from you again. Best MTB and Suspension Channel. Cheerio from Germany. ✌✌🙏🙏. I can't believe it's not butter ! If you butter it, they will come.
@jimklaas3 ай бұрын
Great video....thanks
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@eddienellis50253 ай бұрын
Congrats on the new workshop, fabrication shop, and museum. Looking forward to more progress videos
@Twentykixx3 ай бұрын
Awesome! When can we start sending forks and shocks?
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
Any time! But I do everything by appointment so reach out before you fire stuff out.
@Twentykixx3 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspensionYou bet!
@kevinmccloy1853 ай бұрын
Holy cow! that's an upgrade
@ddssfsef82937rifbzkb3 ай бұрын
tell everyone you meet you are looking for a lathe. keep dropping that hint. with a little luck and patience you'll find one
@P_Hamtramck3 ай бұрын
Looks awesome Greg!! 🎉
@ZorionTerrell3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see it finished!
@trouthunter42503 ай бұрын
Fun. I’m in the beginning stages of a much smaller version in my back yard for bike storage and maintenance putting to use all those rebuilding skills I’ve learned from your channel. Best of luck on the new HQ
@florihupf3 ай бұрын
Congrats!🎉
@MarkMoore-f3n3 ай бұрын
Great news love you’re work
@alexandrem36163 ай бұрын
OMG that’s amazing ! ❤ Can’t wait for the next videos!!
@scrutch6663 ай бұрын
does it mean in future we can drop off the shocks directly at that place ?
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
You can drop off at the new spot soon! Hoping to move the "work necessities" over this week.
@JLP13 ай бұрын
Why does the SRAM service manual say that the Schrader valve core must be removed before taking off the top cap?
@ButterSuspension3 ай бұрын
They really want to make sure nobody gets hurt; best way to know there's no air inside is to remove the core.
@EPTRotorsports4 ай бұрын
Lets be honest. 90% of riders dont even understand what a high level of performance is.
@ButterSuspension4 ай бұрын
Sure, but everyone understands broken teeth!
@EPTRotorsports4 ай бұрын
@ButterSuspension ........o'cmon. You cyclist guys are so over the top with this. Yall love to get ripped off. Spending as much for bike forks as a premium shock and spring setup for my audi. It's goofy.
@ButterSuspension4 ай бұрын
@@EPTRotorsportsyou're right, a $200 bike is totally fine. 😂 Just like a $1000 used car would be fine, right?
@carstenschroder70544 ай бұрын
You did notice full travel back then. First Lockout that really worked.Permanent.😂
@carstenschroder70544 ай бұрын
The AMP worked 9 months. 3 to get everything going, then 3 where it worked and getting looser the last 3. Then send in to service ...another 3 months.😂 Damn that thing was light and rigid. Suspension travel of that Thing would now be called SAG.😂
@samblenkharn80994 ай бұрын
Beautiful. And those hubs are 👌🏻
@venivelovici4 ай бұрын
Big clap, G! 🎉
@andretokayuk81004 ай бұрын
Props to Jose! Excellent camera work! Thanks on the refresher.. been a while since I took an old Z fork apart.. got a Jr. T on the operating table and man, do I hate pulling oil seals.. Your tire lever+screwdriver trick (out of Pedro's fresh shoehorns) is working very well.. key is to exert great force slowly, with great control, going around like you would to tap off a crown bearing race off a fork.. can't go balls out, gradually increase force till it starts moving. I'll let you know how it went..)
@primodeelux4 ай бұрын
Dude. Solid video. You’ve obviously have done a few. 😂 I’ve been out of the bike shop game for a few years and only have worked on Command mechanical posts. Looking forward to diving into my Verb thanks to your vid. Now where did I place those old chopsticks to use for cleaning inside dropper posts?
@luisfigueroa33004 ай бұрын
I have the Marzocchi Bomber Z3. Would you be able to rebuild mine? If yes, how can I contact you.
It's as good as a rockshox recon, in everyway . $300 shock
@ButterSuspension4 ай бұрын
As someone who works on Rockshox forks every day for the last 8 years, I have to disagree.
@orrphism4 ай бұрын
tibetan throat singing background noise was a bad idea. Otherwise great video!
@clintgriffin83104 ай бұрын
Hey there! My brother recently died from a fentanyl overdose. I'm rebuilding his bike which is nothing fancy, an old Next Mountain Ridge. I am mostly finished, just need to take it in for a tune up but I would like to rebuild the fork. Are there any kits to rebuild these old cheap forks?
@ButterSuspension4 ай бұрын
Those bikes aren't really designed to be serviced at all; when the whole bike is $150 brand new, the only way to make a bike that price is to not consider service when designing the parts. Sorry to hear about your brother.
@clintgriffin83104 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspension Thank you for responding. Well, that definitely makes sense! I guess that means I need to start shopping for a 1" threaded fork! I read on one of the bike forums a bit ago that they are hard to find and expensive. This ought to be fun though! Any recommendations would be appreciated! Also I wanted to say thank you for the kind words.
@JimmyJrV.Penalosa4 ай бұрын
Can you use it please
@ButterSuspension4 ай бұрын
I do use it! It's on my single speed Voodoo.
@skyscraper744 ай бұрын
Great Video!! Question, I like the procedure for setting the right level of oil which you demonstrate. Can this be done for first generation reverb (A1) with external cable? Also same question for the method of isolating the post rebuild from the lever bleed, can I do something similar with the A1 model?
@ButterSuspension4 ай бұрын
External Reverbs are almost a different beast. The oil height setting method is different since the air and oil chambers are flipped. Also, because the actuator isn't inline with the post on externally routed models, the only way to test for function on those is to hook up the hose.
@skyscraper744 ай бұрын
@@ButterSuspension got it make sense. thanks for the quick response. I'm making sure I'm not missing any trick as I follow the sram procedure step by step.
@nscalewunderland5 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you. But … horrible product. Ditch this dropper post completely unless you want to do this ridiculous bleed job or a full service every few weeks. Fluid dropper is the lamest idea ever. My brand new Santa Cruz came with a reverb … never worked from day one. No wonder they finally stopped putting them on their bikes. After four trips to the shop, finally trashed it for the One Up v3 … cable and it works. Lighter, better, easier.
@ButterSuspension5 ай бұрын
I stopped arguing about Reverbs online so... agree to disagree. There's over 8 million Reverbs out in the world, I've rebuilt hundreds and my personal post is a Reverb AXS. That OneUp is gonna need service at some point! (I do agree the hydraulic hose is unnecessary!)
@texasbeast2395 ай бұрын
When the Nihonsei/Japanese took over the '80s Transformers cartoon as well as the toy manufacturing, they made a little customized fire truck that was sold in 1988 as Seiberturon Kabu/Cab (or Autobot Hosehead in the US). I've been trying to ID what real world truck is was probably based on, but it has been hard because they molded a ton of extra bits on, to up the coolness factor. But this vid was a lot of fun. Still not sure, but it would be easy to imagine this fire truck turning into a little Autobot that could. Turansuform! 😂