Nice video guys, I would say that you need a little bit lighter bullets with more speed at those long range shots. I mean if you shoot an elk at 400 yards with 308, just take Barnes TTSX but 130 grain bullet and if you are reloader, than push that load up, it must be hot if you want to work at those ranges... This is just something what I would do..
@rockangel91723 күн бұрын
Obviously these two have been taking iffy shots at game and shoot beyond their abilities
@beardedrancher28 күн бұрын
Meanwhile 303 British which is about the same is one of the most popular moose and bear rounds ever.
@andrewkelk841429 күн бұрын
Sounds like a bullet construction or bullet placement problem more than a calibre problem.
@jbjones7021Ай бұрын
Wtf did I just watch
@bernardg4646Ай бұрын
Yawn...what a bs snooze fest of a video.
@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080Ай бұрын
You should try 125 gn TTSX's in that 308.
@johnwilburn8319Ай бұрын
At 3300 fps they are lethal!!!
@BornAgain2019Ай бұрын
Clown world
@boatscrypto5856Ай бұрын
subscribed
@boatscrypto5856Ай бұрын
HNT26 with pierce engineering 17 oz SA 6.5 PRC
@boatscrypto5856Ай бұрын
6.5 PRC?
@km6731Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I had a cow elk a couple years ago and contemplated the .270 or 308. i chose the .270 as it didn't fail me on my last elk. I had a hunch this may be your gripe. I shot a doe with a 165 grain at 2650fps and the barnes ttsx mushroomed but only about 25 percentof the bullet and the deer ran 50 yards.
@km6731Ай бұрын
i getting 2650 in a 18inch barnes ttxs 165
@pietercillieАй бұрын
Morning Guys. Stop talking nonsens.The Nato 762, 308 is the best allround caliber that you can find..If you have never been in enemy territory in a operasional combat zone with one then please stop critizising the 308.It is the best.I am an Angola Bushwar veteran.
@desertrat79Ай бұрын
I'm hanging on something that was said....your concern with 308 is at extended ranges. Any cartridge will fail if shot beyond it's effective range. 308 maxes out at 300-350 for elk. If you decide to take longer shots then yes, get a Magnum. Also something of note is bullet construction. It's not likely that a Nosler Partition or a Barnes TTSX would stick in a scapula. Maybe an old core lokt or something would. I'm not emotionally biased in this argument. There's just too many variables being ignored.
@dad2817Ай бұрын
I quit hunting with 308 cause when I shoot and then open my eyes the thing im shooting at doesnt get hit.
@dad2817Ай бұрын
Satire maybe?
@patcady310Ай бұрын
I’ve used the 308 lots along with many other cartridge choices. As a further hunter, I’ve shot probably 5000 coyote with various iterations of 22 cartridges. Hunting big game the one common threat is that there isn’t a mammal in the universe that can’t survive without lungs heart liver and or blood. The package delivered makes the difference not only the postman. A few hundred feet per second is inconsequential inarguably. Most hunters are really shitty to mediocre marksmen at best. They opt for magnums to make up for the shortfall in their abilities. Range estimation is a joke and I’ve proven that point numerous times where I bring along my laser rangefinder and get into ranging discussions with other hunters and when asked , I’ve yet I meet any guy who’s been even remotely close to their estimates.
@jamesv31172 ай бұрын
Operator error boys
@rioa11392 ай бұрын
CRAZY theory- Your barrel twist is off. This is the only way I can see a 30 cal projectile at those energy levels not penetrating deep. I think you are wasting potential energy on a tumbling projectile. You are shooting a heavy projectile from an older rifle - until recently many manufacturers used slower twist rates for lighter bullets. I have seen rifles that shoot nice holes at 100 yards and that shoot keyholes at 4-500 yards. Now here is the real kicker, your round doesnt have to keyhole to still be losing tons of energy. If it is marginaly stable and right on the edge of a fast enough twist - it could still be producing close to rounder holes in paper but dumping lots of energy. Think of a tight spiral football throw versus a slightly wobbly one - LOTS of wasted energy. Confirm this on paper and not steel targets. Try the lightest ttsx mono your rifle can shoot - at the highest speeds it can shoot and you will see amazing penetration.
@jorgesolis94682 ай бұрын
Most 308 rifles have always been 1:10 now original 7.62x51 nato was 1:12 I believe or a weird 1:11 either way bullet choice matters
@lifeisgood0702 ай бұрын
Can you do a follow up video on the 70 mile hike on public land and what that was like? I'm having trouble understanding that part. Realistically you don't look like you would make more than about 12 to 14 miles of progress per day with a backpack carrying a tent and food and a rifle and ammo, especially in the winter or fall months when the sun sets earlier. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just trying to understand how that situation worked out on foot without vehicles of any kind
@garysmith39132 ай бұрын
Can't wait for "future episodes". Thanks for the laughs, guys.
@moa.3332 ай бұрын
Trailer park stoners 😅
@joejas222 ай бұрын
The us army should look into “Elk Armour”.
@joejas222 ай бұрын
Nice elk racks on your wall.
@Mountainghost722 ай бұрын
Elk are tough animals, i once had to put 3 rounds of 7mm 175 grain core lokts in a cow, all vital hits, its not the round boys, I hunt with an 06, this year im thinking about switching days with a BLR 308, haven't shot anything with, will see, coming from an ex elk guide, i would rather guide someone with a 308 that there comfortable with, than someone with a Magnum that there afraid of the flynch
@ReloadingWeatherby2 ай бұрын
So... if 308 Win doesn't have enough power past 300 yards on Elk.... what does that say about the 6.5 Creedmoor?
@johnwilburn8319Ай бұрын
Needmore is good to 100,000 yards!It only drops 1".
@Meh-hr7gq9 сағат бұрын
At around 350 yds the 6.5 starts to surpass the .308 in ft lbs of energy. They are actually very close in most aspects to make it negligible under 350.. The 6.5 starts leaving the .308 behind in all aspects past 350 yds.
@ReloadingWeatherby9 сағат бұрын
@@Meh-hr7gq That's not true. Let's use the 168 gr ABLR in 308 at a pedestrian 2800 FPS. It beats the 6.5 Creedmoor in energy all the way out to 950 yards. If you're wondering what I'm using for the 6.5 Creedmoor... 142 gr ABLR at 2750 FPS. My point is... neither one is a good big game cartridge
@Meh-hr7gq8 сағат бұрын
@@ReloadingWeatherby considering every ballistics chart disagrees with your assessment, I don’t know what to tell you. Energy switches from .308 to 6.5 at 350. Less drop. Less drift. Especially in the ELD x which has the highest BC. Are they the “best” big game cartridge! No. Can they work? Yes. It’s been done a lot.
@ReloadingWeatherby8 сағат бұрын
@@Meh-hr7gq Sigh... the 142 ABLR has the exact same b.c. as the 143 ELD-X. If you're going to make dumb claims... you better do your homework. Where do you think I got the energy numbers from out to 950 yards? Unlike you... I ran the data before running my mouth
@CClifton56782 ай бұрын
Sounds like most of your problems with the .308 is shooter issues and incompetent bullet selection. I took a bull at 750 yards that weighed 989lbs with a .308 using a 175gt TTSX, one shot, less than 3 steps and he fell. Through the front shoulder and right into the heart and hes now on the wall and the meats in the freezer.
@OBSZIDIAN5483 ай бұрын
As elk do, you keep shooting until it drops? Sounds horrible
@robertbent79993 ай бұрын
Don't think 308win the problem. It the operator
@raynance53283 ай бұрын
Ugh…sounds too much like “The View.” 3-mins was all I could stand.
@Z33Garage3 ай бұрын
Man people will say the dumbest things about calibers for clicks...
@shafffisher3 ай бұрын
Heaps of my fellow countryman here in New Zealand have shot large red stags out to 550 yards with the 308. Bullets dont just stop on a shoulder. Use adequate bullets within their expansion velocities and elk are in trouble.
@horse.3953 ай бұрын
I'll take a guess ....."because you stupid"?...😊😅
@EliazarLopez-ww7ww3 ай бұрын
This guys are drunk.
@eddiekane12023 ай бұрын
You can take anything with a 150gr Remington CoreLokt if you know what you’re doing
@BusterCheeks17763 ай бұрын
But did He/She DIE tho hahaha Ain't never took a shoulder off one that ain't dead bubba Like a boxer complaining about a TKO and not a KO hahaha I get it tho, feels like a gamble God bless
@scottwondrow66623 ай бұрын
Bullshiit! Learn to shoot!
@ChanoLeyva-hq2ci4 ай бұрын
Did the recoil hurt your beta shoulders? The dude on the left has the physique of a vegan
@DavidDeshane-ic4cg4 ай бұрын
I've had it happen but the bullet had hit a tree first. These guys are full of bs.
@DavidDeshane-ic4cg4 ай бұрын
Amatures.
@russellkeeling43874 ай бұрын
Late in my hunting life I got a .308. It is accurate as can be and a wonderful cartridge but I already own rifles that fill every type of hunting I want to do. The .308 didn't do anything rifles I already own do, it's not in the safe any more.
@elkhuntr28164 ай бұрын
Beware of the 3000fps velocity number on the hornady precision hunter 7PRC box. Pretty much everyone is getting around 2800fps right now because hornady was forced to change the powder due to the powder shortage. At 2800fps, it is pretty much identical energy wise out to 500+ as the 7mm rem mag shooting 162 eldx. See Ron Spomers podcast: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4apYpeOpa9rla8
@tikkamarksman4 ай бұрын
If you shoot at long range it's very hard to see if if it's branches and stuff in the way... A bullet that's tumbeling is going to act that way ,it's not penetrating.. This theory apply to what you saying... a first shoot, than spreying lead.. It's easy to hit something in the way and mismatch what bullet ho did what ?
@ChronicalsofAl4 ай бұрын
Using the wrong bullets. Barnesttsx won't stop like that
@bayfilly14 ай бұрын
This is the silliest video I've seen in decades,,,,maybe ever. The raw physics alone always rules. If you use a 150g 30 caliber bullet, it doesn't matter if it comes out of a .308 rifle or a .30-06 Springfield or a 7.62x39 or a 30-30 Winchester,,,,,take your pick. Send them all downrange at 'x' velocity and the terminal results will be IDENTICAL !!!!! Force = mass x acceleration.....F=MA. Probably chapter 1 in any high school physics book.
@louiskiser99895 ай бұрын
Have a 300wsm with 180 Schrocco,s 26 inch tube
@Jameskenomis35 ай бұрын
Was this channel stopped?
@shafffisher3 ай бұрын
It should be
@louiskiser99896 ай бұрын
I would say 300WSM with Acubond would do a good job
@BrianBell-t6m6 ай бұрын
You guys are yahoos man, you have no fkn idea what your attempting to talk about