Yea Myrrh is very fun. Feels like they took what worked with Fae from FE6, and just ironed out the kinks. Fae is kind of a janky unit who is often not seen as more than just a sponge for siege tomes or status effects, but Mrryh’s flight and the high amount of monster enemies in FE8 make her quite appealing.

I think you just have different priorities. You seem to often fall into the same line of thought as many other FE TouTubers in that you focus more on efficiency, which is hardly a universal approach in the fanbase. I myself found Myrrh really good when I played Sacred Stones, especially since I lost some of the units you place over her (including Seth, whom I honestly found overrated past the halfway point).

I wish I could catch these live, but they're at 6 am my time. I'm enjoying the FE3 run, rip Cain. Also, I did a double-take when you said Marth has "some units to recruit", and then you mentioned it and lol I forgot they moved Jeorge here in FE3 since the Pyrathi map got cut. (Though tbh it makes more sense recruiting him here than in Pyrathi) (Weirdly, Pyrathi is Ogma's hometown, this was mentioned in Kaga's notes and is never relevant)

Mrryh ends up being a pretty nice fail safe....plus once you get her fed you can negate her flying weakness with the shield have her fly over and kill hee father and clear a path to drop your Lord so you can save warp uses of if you are doing a no warp playthrough or somehow missed it on a blind run which can happen

I love ALL ActualLizard videos!!!! ❤

Just saw the poll results, I'm glad you and the people did my boy Knoll justice. Ik some people would have had a "Knoll" tier as the bottom of the list

"she has guardrails to prevent her from taking over the game" *Enemy control glitch approaches menacingly*

I think it's worth saying with 50 use dragon stone is doesn't just deal with having to many uses but also deals with one of the problems fey has in to little uses 50 stone unit is enough it feels like you can actually use myrrh but not enough to uses for her to just carry the game unlike seth and be the best option for dealing with anything unlike seth.

Myrrh also has the benefit of being in the story for a while before she joins you as a combat unit. You have a whole side arc in trying to retrieve her dragonstone and then the pay off when you get it is great.

is myrrh gonna have to choke a point?

I pretty much agree, both on unit feel and her actual contributions. I wonder though. If SS was harder and monsters were more threatening, maybe she'd be a lot more valuable? When I was doing a "favourite unit of each class" thing, I surprised myself by having Faye as my favourite Manakete over Myrrh. Faye isn't technically as good (and I think only has 30 Dragonstone uses), but felt like a more meaningful niche in FE6 as enemies are stronger and she joins right before Status Staff and Siege Tome Hell, both of which she tanks on her Dragonstone bonuses alone without needing to spend a use. Enemy Manaketes are also really scary in FE6, while, like you said, any good combat unit can one-round monsters in Sacred Stones. I ended up agreeing with most of the community tier placements, the main shocks were Franz and Tana. I think they suffer from other "Really Good" units of their class being more obvious picks, but... nothing's stopping you using both. Sure Franz is not Seth. He's also a Cav with nearly perfect availability. Not being Seth should NOT bump him down a whole tier. Sure, Vanessa can be promoted by the time Tana joins. But what about having two of her, one with slightly more Strength?

Actual Lizard, something I've noticed in the videos of yours I watched, you haven't talked about Creature Campaign, the Sacred Stones Postgame. The last floor of the Lagdou Ruins, for example, is full of monsters that Myrrh would be great against. Also, don't quote me on this, but Lagdou Ruins regular enemies, at least in the later floors, seem tougher than the ones in the final chapter.

When are we gonna get pirate emblem. Nothin' but boat and sand maps, thracia capture so you can plunder yer enemies! This ain't yer landlubbin' granpapies fire emblem.

Ahhhhh Duessel, Moulder, and Saleh not in Really Good, what is happening

I'm not big into high level competitive Fire Emblem analysis, but i think that the placement is pretty solid; in a vacuum, myrrh is a Main Battle Tank who can carve through enemies really well. The issues she has are almost entirely contextual rather than with her design. I would posit the question of whether or not she remains a good unit if looked at through the contextual lens of *other* fire emblem games

I miss turning red guys blue. I'd love to see branching recruitments even. Where no army is the same every playthrough. We sometimes get 1 recruitment like this or something like 3h but id love to see it go throughout the game.

Its too bad there isnt a secret second stone in one of the secret shops or something. With 100 uses she could be a high gold cost funny unit.

Actuallizard: The best use for Myrrh is to force her to kill her own zombified father You are a monster.

Insane growths are just some of the most fun unit designs, part of the reason reverse recruitment Karel is one of the most fun units around. Considering shes also not spammable means shes basically the "fun" unit of the endgame, not even a busted Est carry or anything. One of my favorite units, as staying engaged in fe8's dry ass endgame is the most challenging part. Personally, defense is my favorite stat, and even when her dragonstone broke I still used her in a map to choke a point for a few turns until I could get Ephraim there

Myrrh is drgn

My Gameshark came preloaded with FE8 codes. Sometimes I give Myrrh a Wretched Air and just destroy enemies for fun. I don't think you can use it against Fomortiis, though, because she doesn't have an animation when she uses it in combat.

Yes, the little dragon gremmy is the bestest. She's adorable and is an awesome dragon.

Myrrh is a shining example of why a unit does not need to be overpowered to be great. She joins at a low level, meaning there are opportunity costs in training her. As you need to invest resources for a map before she becomes strong. But she isnt egregiously weak, that she becomes tedious or hurts the pace of the game. She becomes REAL strong, but she never outshines the rest of your team. Instead becoming a key unit, and opens up a few strategies. But your other units have legendaries too. In the end, her contribution is good for the chapters she is in. But someone like Franz will be contributing to 15 chapters or so before Myrrh can meaningfully contribute (or at least that is what I would say if Franz didnt constantly get luck screwed in my games, resulting in an inevitable crit killing him). All in all, Myrrh represents my favorite type of character in an RPG. Interesting to use rather than what was overpowered... although I did end up playing Monk in BG3, but tbf, I didn't know Way of the Hand was OP. I just played a lot of Street Fighter before BG3 :P

Here's my take as a brand new Fire Emblem player that played Sacred Stones as my first game and played both routes. Context: I didn't ironman, but I wasn't reseting every mistake that lead to a death, so I did lose a couple units, especially the least important ones. I also used Warp in a very limited way (as either the finisher of the map after playing at least most of it or as a desperation move). Based on what you said in the beggining (based on the poll she would be around 7th) that is actually close to where I would rank her. I value her high mostly because of the consistency. While Lute / Arthur / Saleh all could be higher then her, it would be very unusual for me to have multiple of them being better then her in the same playthrough. The same goes for staff users and even flyers. I would also rank her above all the cavaliers (except Duessel and Seth) because while they are really useful over the course of the game they would always end up falling short in the later parts of the game. There's also a point in the game (which is exactly about the same time you get her) in which your deploy numbers increase a lot, and Myrrh tends to end up being better then a random untrained unit from your bench. Another issue is that multiple classes have to share the legendary weapons, so Myrrh is a better boss killer then most of your units, since non effective damage is mostly uselessagainst the end game bosses. For exemple: Only one of Cormag, Tana, Vanessa (and your spear focused cavaliers) can use Vidofnir; Only one of the cavaliers, Garrik, Josua or another promoted Hero can use Audhulma ... I also had a particularity: I never got to use neither Ivaldi nor Gleipnir because I didn't value Arthur that highly (although most people do) and never got to train a dark magic user or a Valkyre to S rank for them. There's also a couple units that are considered better by most people that I value slightly lower than Myrrh: - I don't value Vanessa as highly because I find it dreadful to train her and in the playthrough I did she probably ended up with terrible strenght growths, so she wasn't dealing that much damage even after promoting and was outclassed by Cormag (it was Ephraim route). I get this is 100% anecdotal evidence, but I can't rank her based only in "she should be really good". I voted her as Pretty Good. - For some reason that I can't explain I don't value Arthur as highly as most people. Hee usualy ends up slightly behind a couple of my depoying options and therefore ends up sitting most of the game out. I have to say I usualy enjoy the melee units more and value archers higher then most people so I tend to not stack that many ranged units (especially mages) and for some reason I prefer Lute and Saleh over him and I usualy have either a promoted Neimi or Innes. -I just realized I massively undervalued my staff users in the votes, even tho I usually have at least 1 main staffer and sometimes even have my sage carry one or two staffs. Even then I didn't rank any main staff user in the top tiers. It must be damage dealer bias. With that in mind each playthrough tends to have about 7-8 units that I value higher then her (close to your assumption) and I also always have Eirika in the squad in both routes, so it's another deployed slot for a unit that could be higher then Myrrh that might get to be benched for some time. There's also the fact you might lose one of the units I value higher then Myrrh, which is unlikely to happen to her.

i think people rated her too highly, but she is a super fun unit

Hi Lizard! I voted Really Good for each unit. They all deserve love.

Eh, I may be biased since I love me some dragons, but I wish Myrrh got an extra stone. You can hide it somewhere or make a though optional boss hold it if you want to balance out Myrrh. But I think players who want to bulldoze the rest of the chapters with a dragon should be given the opportunity. Also, even with a second dragon stone I doubt Myrrh is taking anything away from Seth.

the thing that decied how you rate is is bascially does it matter that a unites isn´t there. basically is Athots a great unit because you should always use him (assuming no ranked run btu even then you probably should i think) or is he mid because he only exist for 1 chapter you should always use myrh and if you are afarid of the whole dragon stone thing only deploy here in the egg map and the last 2 chapter she will still do just fine and help you clear these maps. she will be your best combat unit for these chapters how highly you value this is up for debate.

Lizard about to calmly destroy the curious tier list placements. What I like about Myrrh is that in a game that loves to give us underleveled units that need to be fed experience to underperform after multiple chapters of trying to catch them up, while Myrrh just needs one chapter and she's online. Also her level ups are near guaranteed to be good, unlike the three trainees, none of whom have a non-HP growth over 50%. And as mentioned, she fits an easy slot on the team as an endgame boss killer if the need or desire arises. Also the tier list was inherently flawed from the start for not having a Seth tier.

Me playing FE 8: "I don't care if she's secretly a 1200-year old dragon, I'm not using child soldiers." Me playing FE Fates: "Corrin, you need to bang your step-brother so the army can use your Habsburg incest babies as eugenically-engineered supersoldiers." I like to think that the war crimes are in-character, at least in Conquest.

I just like how she's an est and a gotoh archetype in one and her unit feel is insane.

I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact she can use monster weapons. I've often heard you can use certain glitches to get one of them, and then she has a strong weapon she can attack with forever. Obviously, not really practical. But quite the curiosity, and totally unique to Myrrh.

I usually just let her deal with the reinforcements in 16, maybe feed her some eggs and she's good to go for endgame. If that doesn't make for a good unit I don't know, she just works.

The last time I played sacred stones I used Myrrh for the last 2 map only. She completely cleaned up the forest by herself. I ended up hitting like 18 on that one map alone

Sounds about right. Myrrh is a unit who does what she's supposed to very well: Nuke powerful enemies (specifically monsters) with minimal investment. And she joins slightly before she'd be wanted. Issue is there aren't many hard monsters and she can't be used much (Which is a good thing as you said).

All the dragons should get a second dragon orb and more hammerane staffs to keep them active. I don't use them much so they stay on bench but if the game added hard foes like in engage and tbe reward was a dragon stone that'd be amazing for a semi challenge mode

thanks for the great video! You inspired me to play sacred stones for the first time and after watching many of your videos, I have such a great appreciation for the game!

Yooo, my main "issue" with the tier list gets an exclusive video

Is Alear actually a good wyvern? I looked up the average stats at level 20, and they look terrible. It seems like that martial lucina or the Byleth dragon would be better.

4 star well is generally my favorite as while its a bigger gamble, it has the books and seals I want and is pretty easy to chain into by just throwing any silver items you get back in

I like customization to an extent. Being able to do something like dismount a flyer or cavalier to cater towards a chapter. However, being able to do something like tell Florina “Hey you’re gonna wear heavy armor now and be a general” would just feel wrong unless you had to actually put in the work. The Three Houses system is close to being good but just doesn’t get there. It tells you the intended direction for characters but doesn’t really punish you for doing your own thing, and if changing that direction had to be earned it would be a lot better. Don’t force me to mold them from a generic student, make them heavily specialized in something and make me work for the change. It’s why I love the system in Fates and can live with the systems in Awakening, which is the second best, and even Shadow Dragon, where you’re limited based on how many of a unit type you already have.

12:21 Seth is NOT a Jagen 😂😂😂

Honestly i thought goldmary was just neat character i didnt mesh with but after watching this video some more ive come to appreciate her mo- IS CELICA ENGAGED WITH CÉLINE

1:46:59 Spoilers "Easy matchup for Gordin if he doesn't get crit!" -And those were the last words Gordin ever heard...

Your lisp is making me cringe every time you speak, otherwise great informative video.

Featuring surprise FE3. (FE3 was fun)

One type of Unit who can be mistaken as a Jagen despite for being available later are traitors due of their massive stats like Orson tried to scam you by hogging the Exp away from Ephraim, Forde and Kyle, and as for Black Knight from Radiant dawn despite that he would betray you later on you have no choice but to use him or Miccaiah will get one shot by the hidden enemies “I forgot which chapter was it but its the one when Black Knight becomes playable for the first time”

In my last FE 9 run I gave my boots to Soren since I wanted him and Ike to be my main combat units instead of just using the typical cavalry goon squad. It ended up being much better than I anticipated because it ended up giving me +2 range on all the siege tomes, which made removing enemy artillery a breeze and opening up the map for the rest of my army.

In my first playthrough, Joshua killed Franz because of a damn crit...

Honestly, a GOATed tier list