I had to manually kill them at the start of every map. It was a pain.

Legit about taking say, that I'm pretty sure nightmare has endless horde and 7 shots

Guess it's changed then. Check the date of the video. I'm pretty tired of this debate. It's over a year+ old now, turns out games have patches. Getting accused of lying on the *only* video I forgot to hit tab on is tiring. I would have had to have wasted a *ton* of time rerolling bots and getting the exact same card/weapon/attachment setup to bother lying about it. Not to mention the total lack of incaps, which you *can't* get rid of. Occam's razor and all that.

@@Zoralink47 well my apologies on that lol you really didn't have to respond but I appreciate ya doing so :) I've looked at the post date and I retract my statement :)

@@fathercrinshaw2041 No worries, cheers for being reasonable about it. I mostly did the runs for fun and uploaded them for shits and giggles so I had to force myself to remember to hit tab at the start in the long run once I decided to upload them so being accused of lying really rubs me the wrong way. If it's changed I assume it's probably because they've since made nightmare easier in general from what I've seen, especially with hives/legendary stuff.

Yes they did update this and make the mission so much harder. Had many many fails in nightmare since. I like the way you kited the zombies around the trucks though. That might prove helpful.

In a weird way?

@@Zoralink47 I’d use them more often. You seem to save them.

@@syproful They're generally not worth it, neither in time taking to throw them nor in opportunity cost. Grenades are no guarantee and the other two grenadier classes have *much* better grenades than ogryn. (Particularly zealot grenades) They pretty much get reserved as a "That thing needs to die NOW" option. Primarily for mutants but on occasion I'll just it to bonk over things like crushers if a teammate is struggling with one and needs help NOW but my ranged weapon needs reloading. You're right that I save them, but that's more just because they're still pretty mediocre overall and not worth taking the pickup over a veteran/zealot. (Unless the veteran has the grenade regen feat/s)

Tried to remember to reply! If you have follow up questions, go for it, this is pretty brief: Important stuff: Confident strike and/or momentum on your weapon. Heavy preference for confident strike, ideally both if you wanna be extra C H O N K Y. EG: My current noif: i.imgur.com/63sximp.png Rumbler is extremely good utility along with having the largest AoE of any explosive in the game as far as I'm aware, along with a massive suppression radius. It also doubles as a long range donk option. Rending on it would be my ideal choice. Your biggest utility as ogryn is the fact that you're shoving enemies around like the big kid in the sandbox, even with your ranged weapons. Once you get good with it you can bounce grenades around in a ton of ways. Shoot it straight down to make a "No melee enemies allowed" safe zone around you. Bounce it off walls to deny poxbursters without even seeing them. Blow up 3 poxbursters in one go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXTae31uarKIras Curios I personally run two toughness and a health. I've been debating going with 3 toughness but the game *really* hates my ogryn and doesn't give me any good curios. Feats I run (1 being the top, 3 being the bottom, from left to right) 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3. The level 25 feats are all kind of whatever though.

@@Zoralink47 No extra wound? Ranged resist on curios?

My weapons look pretty good i.imgur.com/PAK8ANY.png i.imgur.com/sx5G8kV.png My feats I also had correct. These are my curios i.imgur.com/XNXcnMz.png i.imgur.com/nULL8Q3.png i.imgur.com/ddc8ElH.png My main problem is around gameplay - your core argument on steam. I'm an old dude, my reaction and especially (which is worse) my awareness have tanked over the years. It can happen I just missed some ranged or specials and get shredded in the heat of some horde, it really s***s. I need a bunch of practice on dodging, and using the rumbler right. I'll dive in lower missions and continue practicing. If you have more pointers, I'd love'em. Thanks for you encouraging video and replay anyway!

@@Dr_Scarlett Nah, wounds are kind of a waste IMO, you shouldn't be planning for failure. Avoid the failure in the first place with toughness/health curios.

Revolver is a fantastic stumble option to totally negate any enemy in the game temporarily to either enable your teammates or gap close, or just buy you some time for your ability cooldown/to generate more toughness or proc the toughness damage reduction feat. I switch between preferring it and the combat shotgun with a preference for revolver for Style Points and for the faster swap speed/ADSing. It's also a good option for thinning out hordes if needed due to its very high penetration along with the ability to guarantee a shot lands on a target (Such as when I shot the bomber through the horde around 29:08.) Pretty standard setup though beyond that, just raw gameplay. My knife is pretty meh due to having the worst version of bleed possible (Sadness) Album link to my current gear / feats: imgur.com/a/lR6BUbM IIRC my revolver was still a blue at the time of this video until I said screw it and chucked resources at it to make it orange (And got speedloader which is meh). Similar for the knife because the game does not want to give me a better bleed knife. Plenty of heavy swords as drops though! (Why.) My curios are pretty whatever on the whole. Just made another video public of zealot if you're curious about more gameplay.

@@Zoralink47 Very interesting, thank you for taking the time to respond!