Been there today. About 4 or 5 of the chargers didn’t work…. Many people were complaining. Rest was fully occupied.

Someone who can put together a proper graph, love it! Thank you so much!

How do we report? Here in the comments?

Is there an app where I can plan a route without charging stops, but then during navigation there is a list of all upcoming chargers? (List should include infos about DC/AC, power, distance, distance from planned route, count of chargers, toilet and food available?, ideally price) I just want to set where I want to go and start driving. Then I can just pick a charger on the go. This way there is also not need for configuring consumption, SoC thresholds etc... I have not yet found an app that can do this although it should be easier then actually planning the stops.

For regen breaking do you manually have to use the paddles to break? Also which mode has the most effective b1 or b5?

Which app are you using on your phone?

User47 here 😅 When you need more data from my car, it is very easy for me. I drive 1300km a Week on average. ~500km with charging at Home ~780km with DC charging on the Weekend Short Story of my Car: The First owner (2017 - June 2023) only Charge at Home, only drive in City. I bought the Car in June 2023 with 160000km on the Odometer. Today my odometer says 236xxxkm, yes i drive 9000km since the test 😅 Many people dont believe me that i drive that much with that „little“ range

It would be interesting to see the capacity vs the age of the car. Batteries seem to degrade more as a function of age than distance travelled (number of battery cycles).

According to my calculations based on your tables, I conclude that 100% means 26.5 kWh of capacity, not 28 kWh ? 🤔

I've seen a few anecdotes of Teslas going 600k km before the battery is too bad. Given the Ioniq's battery high cobalt, like a triple size phev battery, I'm not worried about my Ioniq for a split second. The Ioniq is one of the best choices, if not the best choice, as a used local city runabout car. Plus it handles and rides brilliantly. The only issue is the front wheel spin easily, which can be an issue in wet, ice, and snow conditions. Plus the threat of repair issues should one get into an accident.

Are we able to browse the data ourselves please?

Thanks for all of this great information. My Ioniq 28 has just clocked over 100,000 km’s. The battery appears ok. Rarely DC charge. I live in rural Australia, and drive on dirt roads. Great car!

0:11 That is an "interesting" looking picture.

Hi, great work, Can you make more generic survey or just for new ioniq 5/6? Would be nice to see how the battery chemistry evolves.

Merci pour cette excellente recherche

My two questions: If battery are not noticeably degrading then what would be at all a reason behind selling EVs by owners ? Why producers warn in instruction owners not to charge above 80% an discharge below 20% which means that user from new condition is warned that to avoid degradation is required to use only 60% capacity ?

Thank you ! tip : a part the battery, now is important to ask for reductor/motor bearing issues or not, oil reductor change frequency... ?

fantastic video, really good data and extremely useful to someone like myself who's looking to purchase one of these 2nd hand soon.

Thanks a lot for this, very interesting! Could you insert the calendar degradation ? I think it’s most important for low milage cars!

I have to say that 200k km should not be a stretch for any reasonably maintained car, many poor people are stuck with them and I honestly expect that any self-respecting car manufacturer can hit 400k. Many people in the west clearly have no idea what abuse happens when these cars have depreciated to the point of export to poor countries. They'll run to 500k+ with scrap heap engineering and emissions that will blow your mind.

Very good video, and you sound exactly like Roman Grosjean !!

Great video and information 👍😎

I wish I'd found out about this testing before I sold my 2018 Ioniq(AU Spec), bought in early 2019. I'd have loved to contributed to your study but alas my car which had about 88,000km when I sold it is no longer mine. Good to see though the battery degradation is very good aligns with Bjorns testing he's done as well with the "Efficiency King" in the past. I'll notify the owner of my former Ioniq though about this in case he wants to contribute. My car when I had it I would say 95-97% of it's charging was on Level 1 charger at home the other was mostly Level 3 with a tiny bit of level 2 charging. My new EV though is still a Hyundai product, the new 2024 Kona EV top spec(AU version).

This is very interesting & encouraging. One thought I have though is that all these calculations are very dependent on the value you use for efficiency. How do you know this is accurate?

Thanks very much, great work! It relieves all the fear of degradation of this most valuable part of an EV. I believe the Ioniq Classic didn't even have a battery heating and cooling system to reduce the amount of degradation while maintaining good DC charging currents - so there is a lot of hope for modern EVs durability for 10 years easiely. It would be interesting to see how the e-Niro statistics look like, because the e-Niro and I believe also the e-Soul has a proper battery heating/cooling system.

Thanks for this great video! At my knowledge, the BMS of the Ioniq 28 gives an estimation of the battery SOH. This information is readable through the OBD2 port. Anyone knows how the SOH is calculated by the car ? And how it is related to remaining useable capacity ? I have a 4 year old Ioniq 38 kWh (a little bit different from Ioniq 28 kWh) and my car still shows 100% SOH, which can't be true.

Thank you, I'm looking at second-hand EVs in Au as they are great value frequently 50% less than new at 3 years old

Amazing work. Thanks for all the work. Handed the car to my son. Lets see if we can contribute 160tkm 2017.

Results seem to be similar to my 2018 LEAF which is 53k miles and 88% capacity (actually 32.5 kWh usable). I would imagine that the range on the Ioniq 28 (2018) would be similar to the LEAF in most cases.

Just ordered one in the the mid range Esprit Alpine which imo is better than the top spec Iconic given it has the sports seats which are a dark colour and look way better and much more comfy not to mention the wheels on the Alpine are way better too. Iv gone for the Shadow Grey 2 tone roof in matte rather than metallic. Never had a matte finish car and iv been told it’s a nightmare to keep clean as you can’t just use any old car wash and it’s prone to chips more. But the look is way better so hoping the extra t costs to get it in matte (extra £500) I think so £1750 extra with the colour selection. Iv test driven the Peugeot E3008, Megane ETech, Cupra Born & MG4 in the past week and the Scenic wins. Bearing in mind I’m currently driving a 2021 Peugeot 3008

A delightful video. Nicely done. I live in Sheffield so I know the area well. You have encapsulated the beauty of the area.

To promote EVs, I think it would have been better to aim for a longer trip. Westminster to Brighton is only 51 miles, which a Nissan Leaf or Renault Zoe first gen can still do easily. So perhaps Westminster-Plymouth would have been a more interesting trip (slightly over 200 miles, so in line with what most EVs can do nowadays).

The two cars are not on the same price range. Shouldnt even be compared

You've had fun! :)

Nice efficient driving! Was the contest only about efficiency or was there also other parameters? PS. My most efficient driving with the Ioniq was down to 95 Wh/km.

i have the same car but its 6years old with 76,000miles and its been in the dealership for 4 weeks of testing the battery because its at 52% battery health ,getting 11 mile range at full charge ,and they told me its nornal and its not warrentied at this moment. Going to keep fighting with mitsubishi till my 100,000mile/10year warrenty expires.great car just bad battery/warrenty issues. wish someone can install more batteries in the trunk for extended range.

i have a 2018 outlander phev and at the moment my car has been at the dealership for 3+ weeks doing battery test for warrenty replacement.its at 76,000miles with 51% battery health , i'm only getting 10-12 miles at full charge. the dealership told me that its not charging now, so all them test they did finally broke my battery so its looking good for me in getting a new replacement battery, still waiting. the car is very great at everything but the battery issues. i don't want to go back to gas only car, i love the twin electric motors.

I have the same version, but left hand drive (in Belgium) and 18inch wheels. My consumption (I do not add the word 'fuel' here 🙂 ) is 175Wh/km over my first 1760km. And I must say, I'm not driving like my grandma. Still: the eDrive20 is not a real BMW, certainly not an "M" beamer. While it has the labels, it's just the trim package as you know. Reason why it's not a real Beamer: the front drive differential can not cope with the torque of the 150kW motor. Try putting it in Sport, and then do some twisty roads. Good luck with the steering 🙂. Would have been a lot better if the car was designed like the VW-platform (ID-series, Enyaq, Q4 , ... ) and rear wheel drive. But I have chosen the iX1 anyway because it is a very nice, European built cruiser, affordable and comfortable for a family of 4. My testdrive 10 months ago was with the XDrive30 (the 20 was not yet available) and also this car has some torque steer because it drives the front wheels as standard and the back wheels only in certain drive conditions. The software on board and the app are very good, and that is why my final verdict fell on the BMW. Keep us posted...

I was so exited hearing 7500 grant wow then i tought let me install, octupus quoted me total cost 10 504£. With 7 500£ gov grant i have to pay extra 3 004£ . I live UB1 post code two bed flat. I am happy with my gas boiler.

Click bait! Your thumbnail said dead mate... full of shit!

Nice video! I drove this route from London to Norwich in an Ioniq 28kWh a few months back (in March 2024) and all was smooth.

Hills really kill EV range. I'd love to see some comparisons between range in the south east of England compared to somewhere a lot more hilly. We drove around the North east of England recently and met some serious hills around Blanchland. I thought at the time that area would make an excellent test for any new EV! Met a Leaf 2015 owner there and he seemed to be coping ok though. Brave man!

Did you have any issues with the battery overheating with all these nonstop rapid charges?

I drove a tesla, i never allow it to go below 19%

I recently bought the same car in Australia, top spec, and on my first fast charge at a supercharger(Tesla) which is open to all the max I could pull was about 30-35kW although I was at a high SoC around 63% when arrived and left at 70% as it was just taking far too long. On using another DCFC, not Tesla, rated at 350kW arrived with 40% or so also max peak seen was 58kW briefly then it had a weird drop to 3kW around the 75% mark for a brief minute or two before jumping back up to 25kW. I am currently draining the battery though down to 10% or less and will then hit a local fast charger(80kW) and test as it could be the battery isn't calibrated yet.

I'm a bit late to commendations, but nevertheless, great job. Thank you so much.

You just can't get to a gas station in a unreliable EV. No one in an electric vehicle knows when the charge will end. Hundreds of factors play a part in the electric world, not like petro cars which are much more reliable than electric EVs. Hundred of years of experience is a good indicator of this history owning a petro vehicle. To many questions, even now of the faults of EVs. Which can become an everyday problem. There are many more negative points of ownership of a EVs, but why! Just don't buy one and your driving experience will have many more happy days and problem free for many more years in a petro vehicle..!