The Neogeo old style stick is a terrible controller when compared to nowadays arcade sticks, the button layout is just awful
@greensun1334 Жыл бұрын
Some people said they messed up the scanline filter and the fake scanlines look ugly, but I think it looks okay. I just don't like the smooth filter, it looks blurry. I'm glad SNK included a pixel perfect mode, it looks like they learned from their NG Mini mistakes.
@greensun1334 Жыл бұрын
A NGASP with Sanwa stick is all I need. The 20 (or 40) stock games would be to less (altrough I play mainly FTGs), so I hacked/modded it and now there are hundreds of games on it. A great system, I'm very happy with it.
@asseertedwolf Жыл бұрын
I am so glad I got my MVS Cbox. I hope it lasts me my lifetime because Idk if I could afford another lol but i enjoy playing retro games anyway I can whether it's emulation etc but slowly I have been building my MVS collection. I basically got tired of buying a bunch of games spread out over different systems and decided to just stick to making 1 nice MVS collection. I'll buy repros or legit carts but I try to stay away from the super pricey stuff. heck anything NeoGeo is pricey even repro carts. lol great video.
@MrNateiyf Жыл бұрын
Did you replace the buttons?
@Khinh-xq6lx Жыл бұрын
yeah the neo geo stick pro runs from hdmi that would be a difference
@Khinh-xq6lx Жыл бұрын
play the game with crappier stick/better stick and you will see the difference, but most neo geo run really well on emulation and combo with good stick with sanwa/seimitsu and buttons you will be more than happy over the old arcade machine. seimitsu 14g buttons would replicate the arcade feel experience
@JaeliusFairmout Жыл бұрын
just discovered this controller today, ordered 3 of them to use with MiSTer. aka my personal neogeo
@TheFrenchy822 жыл бұрын
On last word : don't compare the neo geo X controller with the "real deal", ie a genuine AES controller : it's not the same feeling, because you don't have real genuine arcade hardware. Sadly you can only find "tired" AES controllers ("the square" or the "bean"...) : buttons are smoochy, because the switches are abused. I don't know if you can mod an neo geo X controller (I guess, but ...) ??
@TheFrenchy822 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Now don't forget the this system is now roughly 30 years old ! ANY smartphone nowadays, can run MVS system. The only drawback , for the purist is input lag. it depends of your monitor / TV, your joystick... Now regarding price : I bought my AES day one (yeah I had some money back then...). Neo geo was always nicknamed the "Rolls-Royce console" for a good reason. Compare sound effects of a Neo geo VS a SNES... yeah "day and night".... Back then, cartridges (AES not MVS ) cost 250 Euros, new , most of the time (last cartridges with more memory were VERY expensive ). So the price can't really drop in the 21th century... It was a niche machine, with few cartridges produced ! The best period was at the end of the 90ies : MVS was dying and so the "professional" Neo geo system was pretty cheap back then. nowadays, it's not as "rough" as AES regarding prices, but it's really more expensive ... That's why you have some flashcard (neoSD) : it's VERY expensive but you invest only one time. Frankly, even if i like Neo geo, the best way is to play with an emulator. you can add some scanlines too (I guess OSSC can do this too..).
@linuxlover_84362 жыл бұрын
can one of these new neogeo sticks be modded to add say an iL stick or utimarc sticks like the magstick+ or utlrastik 360 as far as you know? great video.
@Hassan-Alnajjar2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info 💎 I think the Pro Stick is the way to go because it's a less hassle. (Greetings from Dubai, UAE 🇦🇪)
@aaronkosharskyswhiteknight52242 жыл бұрын
This might be a dumb question but for the neo geo controller on the cbox, how do you add coins so you can play, is it mapped to the select button on the aes controller?
@johnnygames13802 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Kosharsky's White Knight - yes, you are correct. The select button on the AES controller is mapped for coin and the start button for start 😀
@aaronkosharskyswhiteknight52242 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 oh okay so no re-wiring is needed then
@johnnygames13802 жыл бұрын
@Aaron Kosharsky's White Knight - Nope, as long as you have an original AES controller with the 15 pin end plug you should be fine 🙂👍
@AE-bm4no3 жыл бұрын
the arcade stick pro is great with the hylo hack (all neo geo games). the only problem is that you can't do multiplayer with another arcade stick unless it's another arcade stick pro connected. Yea, you can multi play with a new neo geo CD pad controller but that's not the same as an arcade stick for fighters. If there was an adapter to use an original AES stick on an arcade stick pro for multiplayer then that would be amazing!
@pflink92 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say it's so great, games have a different aspect ratio, scanlines are worse and no title can emulate the memory card.
@Daazambrano3 жыл бұрын
Hola, he visto que se utiliza un OSSC para la conexión al TV. Quisiera saber si la conexión directa desde la MVS por componente a un CRT funciona sin contratiempos. Saludos.
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Davis Alejandro Agudelo Zambrano, infortunadamente por el hecho en que no tengo un CRT para probar, no tengo mucha información que compartir por el momento. Me imagino que el cable de componente trabaje para enseñar la imagen, pero no se si hubiera malas señales o artefactos en la pantalla. Disculpe por no poder responder con más convicción en el tema 😞
@thetigerman3 жыл бұрын
I just got one of these for my mvs. They are cool. Thanks for showing it to us
@LameGaming3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video! I've wanted a neo geo since the 90s .... I have an emulation arcade cab with every game and system possible but just never seem to use it. I would rather play on original hardware. I got into system modding and replacing capacitors and have acquired most of the systems I want except for the neo geo. I been looking to import a neogeo AES but you have to be lucky to get one under $400. So then I find out about consolizing the MVS boards and find out about the cbox mvs on aliexpress but even they are $300-400. I wish I would of known about the cbox a couple years ago when they were $180. Even the bare MVS boards are $100 nowadays..... Anyway.... Your video pushed me to order an arcade stick pro, luckily they are on sale for $100 on amazon right now. I've downloaded the hylo 1.2 hack and just waiting for it to arrive. I'm like you though, I still been looking all day at the cbox MVS systems because it would be cool as hell to actually have one of these systems I could never afford as a child. Maybe I should just wait until the arcade stick pro gets here..... Maybe I won't feel the need to dump $300-500 on original hardware after I play it. Great video! Its the only one I found giving a comparison on these 2 different options.
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Lame Gaming. Thank you for watching! I was never able to afford an AES system back in the day, so when options like the mvs cbox and stick were out, I had to jump in and get them. The ASP paired with Hylo is a great way to experience playing NeoGeo games without breaking the bank for sure, I'm sure you'll enjoy it!
@ruggedman203 жыл бұрын
Where did u get the cbox?
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Edin Cruz I got it from Aliexpress The TimeHarvest store 😀
@dougjones22963 жыл бұрын
These controllers are great, I prefer the xbox version, if you want something a little more premium check out the Razer Raion, it has helped my game a ton, dont know if it will work on the c box, but you can get them at walmart, and take it back if your not happy
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Doug Jones, thank you for recommending the Razer Raion! I'll be sure to check it out. :)
@shayneerwin28093 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me what buttons you have added to your asp and where you got them? Thanking you in advance
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Shayne Erwin, The colored buttons are Seimitsu and can be purchased here focusattack.com/ . The stick is Sanwa and was purchased on Amazon for about $25 if I remember correctly 😀
@shayneerwin28093 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 Good to know! Thanks for getting back to me. I'm looking to customize my asp!
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
Super fun to do!! Enjoy it my friend!
@dbjungle3 жыл бұрын
Man I can't find anymore of the Xbox version ones. Mine broke and I need a replacement ASAP.
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@dbjungle Man I tried searching for you as well and the only one I saw was used on ebay from Canada. These were readily available a few months back. The only one still on the marked is the ps3. Hope you are able to find a replacement. If I come across any I'll let you know! Good luck brother!
@pedrojosealmansasalinas71083 жыл бұрын
He conectado mi mando de PS3 por USB y los créditos se vuelven locos y suben a 99 sin tocar el mando y el botón start lo pulso y sale el menú de los cheats
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Pedro Jose Almansa Salinas, hola hermano, que control de PS3 estas tratando de conectar, el control de PS3 original?
@pedrojosealmansasalinas71083 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 al final he llegado a la conclusión que puedo tener la BIOS mal
@pedrojosealmansasalinas71083 жыл бұрын
Me he dado cuenta que al darle al power hace lo que quiere mi cbox mvs Neo GEO
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Pedro José Almansa Salinas, que pena mi hermano. Has tratado de conectar otros controlles diferentes? Si compraste el CBOX de Time Harvest, contactale, ellos son buenos en encontrar una solución o arreglar el asunto.
@pedrojosealmansasalinas71083 жыл бұрын
No son esa tienda y ya no puedo hacer disputas
@pedrojosealmansasalinas71083 жыл бұрын
Hola buenas tardes el mando de PS3 y PS4 funciona con cable USB en el cbox mvs
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Pedro José Almansa Salinas Hola Pedro, el único control que he probado es el PS3 Versus controller, de otros diferentes inafortunadamente no se si tendrán problemas.
@SkakinBaconMedia3 жыл бұрын
Hello! Apologies for this (very late)response, but a couple months ago I actually got that Mayflash USB Magic Stick, as I actually also bought the Neon Green MVS Arcade Supergun version too! (I like these a bit much! Haha!) Hope you are doing well otherwise!! Happy gaming!! 😊🎮Marcus
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
Thank You!! Happy Gaming!!
@travismcdowell83523 жыл бұрын
In the early 2000 I loved using my PS2 controller. With the KoF games and Capcom vs SNK2. I could pull off even the hardest specials specials. Been looking for a good controller
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Travis McDowell, I love the "clicky" thumbstick on this pad :)
@travismcdowell83523 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'll have to check it out 👍
@ThePoorMansRetroGameRoom3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I am really enjoying my Neo Geo Arcade stick Pro
@iliariano31263 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@travismcdowell83523 жыл бұрын
I just bought one. It's shipping to my house excited to play Fatal Fury on actual MVS hardware
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Travis McDowell, super awesome! Once you receive let us know your experience 😀
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Travis McDowell, are you trying to connect to an lcd TV or crt? I had to resort in buying an upscaler to connect mine because the picture did not look good when connecting directly. There are some cheap solutions in Amazon or eBay. You can also go with an OSSC like I have or Freimaster, but those options cost a lot more.. Id suggest before buying an upscaler, try connecting to a different TV if possible and check connections well 😀
@travismcdowell83523 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 I figured it out I hooked up a cables and S video it looks alright and got a USB Sega Saturn controller. I was wondering is there anyway to turn the difficulty down. 😄 I know I'm not that bad I keep getting destroyed on Fighting games. I was pretty decent at KoF games on Playstation and Fatal Fury on my Snes
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Travis McDowell if you have a 1 in 161 multu cart mvs, try the below :) B+C+D is the same as Dip switch 1. So it's actually: Power on MVS with 161 in 1 Start desired game Soft Reset Press B + C + D at UniBios Screen Select Soft DIP from menu Select game/slot Set options Exit Soft DIP menu (press C a few times) Select Exit Enjoy!
@MMPLAYER103 жыл бұрын
So cute
@vitorrosachaves31703 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting. 👍👍👍
@ScoriarecordS3 жыл бұрын
If you solder the 15-pin plate to the usb in parallel, you can use the stick in both ways, both in Aes and in Pc, you also save buying the buttons.
@Madstylezify3 жыл бұрын
Will the usb connection work on anything with usb?
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Madstylezify the USB Neo Geo X controller works PC and Neogeo x system only (from my experience) Since I could not have it working on my CBOX with usb, I had to mod it to the 15 pin cable.
@ScoriarecordS3 жыл бұрын
In Raspberry works fine too.
@retromachina55253 жыл бұрын
Hi, Are you able to use ps3 and ps4 controllers on yours? I cant get my PS3 controller to work with it..
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Retro Machina, unfortunately I have not tested those controllers as I currently do not own a ps3/4. The only Sony controller that I was able to test and works is the PS3 Versus controller, which is super cheap www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0051MQK6K?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
@asseertedwolf3 жыл бұрын
How do you insert credits with the controllers? I haven't gotten one yet but am considering.
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@AsertedWolf, you'll be able to insert credits with the select button on controller 😀
@asseertedwolf3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 Thank you buddy I appreciate it. I don't mind emulating these at all because I've bought em digitally etc but man...there's just something about playing them on carts haha I'm a sucker lol :P unfortunately I'll have to settle with the YWR cables because my TV doesn't have the RGB or anything but 1 day! haha I keep hearing also people mention something about a battery this or that? should I be worried about anything at all when getting this? I just wanna plug it up, and play.
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@@asseertedwolf definitely something awesome about playing games the way they were meant to be played. As for the battery, seems that the seller of this particular cbox advised not to place an internal battery for score saving even though it came with the battery mod. Super weird that is the option is there but cannot be used..
@asseertedwolf3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 Ahhh..as long as it works is all I'm worried about haha I try not to pick at little things like that. especially when it comes to NeoGeo. lol I'll probably get that 1 in 161 cart to sample it all out until I get the real ones eventually :) thanks for your help pal. :)
@asseertedwolf3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 Hey! I have 1 more question. How do I get into the Unibios whenever I do get this? so I can change the difficulty of games etc?
@PikangsFutaba3 жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING!!!! while not now, I'm decided to get one of those for this year as a "new console", I usually get one new console each year (last one was an exception) and I believe I can afford it in the upcoming months and I could take advantage of the USB port for my Switch controllers and maybe my Xbox One controllers, but if my Xbox One controllers doesn't work, that would be the least of my problems, even if the CBOX doesn't come by default with UNI-BIOS 4.0 (not like I'll use a lot of that stuff to begin with), also is a good thing that I have Component cables and S-video cables to spare.
@johnnygames13803 жыл бұрын
@Pikangs_Futaba, you will not be disappointed! Relatively cheap if you get a 161 in 1 cart and have cables at the ready. That's at least the start and then you can start collecting MVS carts which are less expensive than its AES counterparts. Good luck and let me know when you get one and what your experience is 😀
@PikangsFutaba3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 You bet I will tell you my experience, hopefully for May or June I can get it, maybe if a chance happens, I could let a friend of mine check it out as well since he's the reason I ended up looking for this as he was used to be an arcade operator and we're great friends since then, heck, there might be a chance that he might still have some of his MVS carts of some games that potentially don't come in the multi-cart (161 in 1), because that's my plan of action for the CBOX (get this version with the cart and maybe add the reproduction of Samurai Shodown V Perfect... or in the very long run get the MVS version of the SD flashcart, 1st it will be to arm myself with at least 3 controllers, 2 for play and 1 to spare, you'll never know the times that have saved me from last minute issues... especially during gameplay).
@apr24993 жыл бұрын
I can confirm that using a good Quality scart cable with an OSSC and line doubling set to 4x, the quality is excellent in hdmi.
@vinzinlinz51994 жыл бұрын
Hello, could you tell me wich buttons and stick do you use to custom your neo geo arcade stick pro ? Thanks.
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@VinZinLinZ, The colored buttons are Seimitsu and can be purchased here focusattack.com/ . The stick is Sanwa and was purchased on Amazon for about $25 if I remember correctly 😀
@vinzinlinz51994 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380, thanks 👍
@RetroRick19904 жыл бұрын
Hello, great video BTW, a small question: did you get stereo audio from RCA using component video?
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Henrique Adriano, I did get the stereo sound from the AV Output connection by plugging an RCA audio cable. I believe the newer mvs cboxes like mine had a stereo mod for sound. The older cboxes had mono sound.
@RetroRick19904 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 great man, I think I did not have the same luck as you, I vê got the same model mvs cbox as you, but my CRA áudio output does not worked out.... just one output worked
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Henrique Adriano, did you happen to purchase yours from TimeHarvest Online? If so, send them a message explaining audio issue. They were pretty good in responding back. Hopefully they can address and fix/replace for you.
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
Let me know how it turns out!
@marcretro4 жыл бұрын
thanks man my cbox like yours is on the way..
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Arcademade, you will not be disappointed!!
@di3804 жыл бұрын
Only way I would pick emulation over the original is if it would offer something additional that the original did not offer like online play.
@kaushikpaddy74674 жыл бұрын
It offers a much cheaper entry price. Also most emulators have nice features like Rewind, save states, build in cheats, updates, version selecting, frame skipping ect.
@davistalhone94824 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I'm so happy with my Arcade Stick Pro but the ONLY downside to me is that it doesn't have a couple of the games I was after (Double Dragon for example). Maybe I'm in the minority on this but I would be thrilled beyond measure if SNK would come out with a genuine AES Mini (or if a company like Retro Bit would make a modern Neo Geo clone like they do SNES and Genesis).
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Davis Talhone, i may be wrong,, but I believe you may be able to get Double Dragon by soft modding the stick.. Should be a few videos on Y-Tube.
@davistalhone94824 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 I just may have to do that. I am a huge one on one fighting game fan and let's face it, nobody has a better library of those than SNK.
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Davis Talhone, couldn't agree more my friend!!
@manuelmoscati1137 Жыл бұрын
The roms are included
@nheopix12584 жыл бұрын
Did you glue those?
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Nhopix, I did glue them and had to cut the plastic around the inside of the controller to fit. It clicks, but sacrifices accuracy in movement as the switches are a bit hard to press down and did not line up correctly. I wouldn't recommend trying this. Better option is to buy an original controller for the neogeo cd. A bit expensive, but awesome controller 😎
@Elzilcho874 жыл бұрын
If somebody can't get a CRT, then I think original hardware is ultimately pointless. The emulations they have are getting better and better for normal flatscreens, so I just stick to emulations and save on the insane money you need to spend for the "authentic feel".
@docnom4 жыл бұрын
crt has no input lag, you can play emulated pretty well in it but original hardware has its own touch the only way it can is by getting natyvely ported for example Mario 64.
@aridematos35554 жыл бұрын
I own the stick pro and couldn’t be happier and more satisfied! I was willing to spend big money to get the real console since it’s my childhood dream but that wish went totally away after I got the stick pro!
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Ari D, the fact that the Stick Pro is cheaper in price, customizable, able to add games and portable in a sense, it makes it a very great choice to play SNK games! I play the games much more often with it than with the MVS system.
@Jerome-C4 жыл бұрын
Raspi 4 + 2 USB NeoGeo Arcade Stick is another great solution for the full NeoGeo SET !! With CRT scanline, the ultimate filter for SNK games (like oldies TV with rounded border) Believe me , it's a must have for 2 players for less than 150$ ... Link for the stick here --> www.aliexpress.com/item/32873994812.html you can find iso Retropie or RecalBox image of the full SNK set around the web...
@MartinKincl19933 жыл бұрын
Even better yet - get RGB-Pi, hook it up to a PVM and use ASP as the controller.
@guybrushthreepwood30544 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sega Saturn reissue USB version but unfortunately it doesn't work at all.
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Guybrush Threepwood, did you try connecting directly or with a Magic NS dongle?
@guybrushthreepwood30544 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 Directly, it's the cable version. So in theory almost every wireless should be working with this dongle on CBOX?
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
I believe if the wireless controller is an approved controller on the Magic NS dongle, it should work wirelessly. Unfortunately I don't have a reissue Sega controller to try it, but I did try a Neo Geo X joystick directly plugged into the USB port of my CBOX and directly to the Magic NS dongle and did not work at all :(
@guybrushthreepwood30544 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 Thanks, meanwhile i got a load of NeoGeo sticks, pads, which i successfully repaired :-) Btw, did you use a battery with your Cbox? The seller told me not to put the battery as it would mess up their custom Universe BIOS, though it sounds weird to me because they modded the board for a cr2032 battery
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Guybrush Threepwood, the seller told me exactly the same, not to use a battery. It is very weird as mine also has the battery mod housing on it installed. I would think they should have omitted on this console as for those who may not know this info will have issues If they pop a battery in.
@JackTheGamer34 жыл бұрын
How did you get all the colored buttons to be on the top?
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Jack the gamer 3, switching the buttons on the NGASP is pretty easy. Make sure to lift the very small tabs for each cable connectors on the buttons (It will make the job way easier and minimize damage to the cables/connectors), slightly press on the sides of the buttons and push out. I bought the buttons here - focusattack.com/ - I will try making a video showing how to change the buttons and joystick soon.
@JackTheGamer34 жыл бұрын
@@johnnygames1380 thanks!
@JackTheGamer34 жыл бұрын
Well. I found out how to switch out buttons! It was actually VERY easy!!!! So I really look forward into ordering the same buttons you have! :D
@benb1554 жыл бұрын
Hi, this new cbox version work without problem with rgb scart on ossc? thank you very much!
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@probbitaly bostrom, unfortunately, I have not tried a SCART cable connected through the OSSC in fear of damaging the cbox or the OSSC. I read online that some scart cables may not have resistors necessary to regulate the power coming into an ossc. I have mines connected to component and I have to say, it looks pretty good.
@RetroMoments4 жыл бұрын
I can definitely tell which one you're using the most after watching this. Great video!
@jdestroyer97214 жыл бұрын
I have a question how do I remap my controller pads on the CBOX itself not the pandora box because I seem to have done it by accident and do not know how to fix it
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
@Jdestroyer97, hi I haven't been able to figure out how to remap the controllers on the CBOX unfortunately as I am away. But I found this info that may be helpful. www.reddit.com/r/neogeo/comments/9ka2cs/psa_timeharvest_cbox_mvs_sega_saturn_button/?
@jdestroyer97214 жыл бұрын
I somehow managed to remap it again to the correct controls but I cannot figure what combination does it and I don't really want to mess with it what I do know is that the jamma edge connection in inputs will start flashing indicating what input you're about to set and you just press the corresponding button you want it to be
@johnnygames13804 жыл бұрын
I never tried to remap myself so I may just try finding more info out there before trying myself :). I'm glad you were able to remap the buttons again. Nothing more frustrating than changing something and not being able to figure out how to change back :(