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@mathewworkman1625
@mathewworkman1625 5 күн бұрын
Some great points for sure here.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband 5 күн бұрын
We appreciate it! Thanks! :)
@mathewworkman1625
@mathewworkman1625 5 күн бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband No worries - love the podcast - but only had previously downloaded it / listened while I was driving. I had no idea you were on KZbin!
@TONDJO-STATION
@TONDJO-STATION 7 күн бұрын
The first to like !! thanks to do this on YT with french subtittles !!!!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband 6 күн бұрын
Thank you so much! Glad you like the episode! :)
@MusiclyricsByECDaleyC
@MusiclyricsByECDaleyC 7 күн бұрын
Tuning vocals? It takes the human side of the equation and throws it out the window, in my humble opinion! We already make music that seems to have zero soul, and little else to my ears. When I listen to music from the late 60's through the 70's and still somewhat through the 90's it was the human factor that gave it all life. It all started changing when midi made it possible to play the notes for us! I do love that Midi made it easy for me to sync to as tape as 4 or 8 tape tracks was not enough to really fulfill my visions of a more complex recording. I was always mindful of the human factor (pure emotion & feel) was the new challenge for me, and it isn't easy! I always do my best work when I am onstage and moving real folks, with no crutch to hold me up. It's the live audience becoming quiet and actually listening that lets me be my best self! I have no ill intent here, it's just my take on the state of modern music today..... PS: when I use midi (and I still do) I always work hard to actually play the parts myself, drums I may use simple (preset) midi parts as a starting point, and edit for my ears note by note! I could never hope or do I even try to replace the real folks who actually bring their very soul to the music! I know I can never replace a real musician with a machine of any kind in the end. I can only flush out what I hear in my head, good, bad or indifferent! Thanks for what you guys are doing, I need to keep myself on my toes, music performing & recording is a life-long passion for a lot of us lowly musicians ....!
@preciseaudioblog
@preciseaudioblog 9 күн бұрын
True
@shanelindemanmusic2650
@shanelindemanmusic2650 19 күн бұрын
I'm DIY but hire a drummer and and a mastering engineer.
@shanelindemanmusic2650
@shanelindemanmusic2650 19 күн бұрын
I'm DIY but hire a drummer and and a mastering engineer.
@davidduarte2887
@davidduarte2887 25 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear about your struggles, Benny. Your health and family are most important so I’m sure your students and artists will continue to be supportive. Thanks for sharing!
@nilespeshay1734
@nilespeshay1734 27 күн бұрын
I think, in 2024, the only reason to use a standalone would be if you wanted to record directly to cassette/tape. Otherwise, you're just using a crappier form of a computer.
@enlightenmentjunkie1
@enlightenmentjunkie1 Ай бұрын
9:36 yeah, Honesty I think that KZbin engineers are the BEST! Even if they aren’t perfect it’s worth hearing usually.. It’s people that offer these “courses” that are paid for that I am super cautious about. I have signed up for paid courses that were amateur at best and was not able to get my money back.. Thank you for doing what you do!
@toreeriksson6117
@toreeriksson6117 Ай бұрын
Now you really made me upset. :) ;) I know you aim your content to a different audience as I will never produce a record and since I'm 62 years old it's totally impossible for me to tell the differece between the sound from a professional recording studio and the cheap pre-amps in low-end digital multitrackers. But c'mon! Two times you mention latency, i e the HUGE PROBLEM (terribly sorry for yelling) with computer based recording, and the problem that just does not exist in the world of multitrackers, not even the cheapest ones. I spent countless of hours reading forums, tweaking, downloading drivers, trying different DAWs, tweaking some more... nothing helped. The only thing I didn't try was converting to Mac. Then I purchased a used Zoom R8 for about US$100 and this whole latency issue was just a very unpleasant memory from the past. Now, I'm not religiously against computers. I went from struggling with DAWs to look at DAW-less, but landed in Less DAW. As I'm a lousy keyboardist, I generally start out entering the notes in a notation software. (Never befriended piano rolls.) Then export it into the recorder and add voice and acoustic instruments. Then I import the Master track into the PC and convert to mp3 in Audacity. I may experiment with VCV Rack since there is no way I can afford Eurorack hardware if there is some synth sounds my two Volcas can't perform.
@nilespeshay1734
@nilespeshay1734 27 күн бұрын
I am only speaking anecdotally, ofc, but I've been recording for a few decades. Started out on some standalones and moved to PC about 20-25 yrs ago. Other than the 1st month that I ever used a PC (and figured out how to adjust buffer size), I've literally never had latency issues. I have never spent more than $150 on a PC (refurbished office surplus) so it's not like I'm using bleeding edge computers...
@avace917
@avace917 Ай бұрын
The main reason I wouldn't consider recording without a computer is that I compose in an Akai MPC and I've noticed that no current standalone hard disk recorder has MIDI ports. Hence no sync
@toreeriksson6117
@toreeriksson6117 29 күн бұрын
Yeah, it really is a shame that all the manufacturers ditched that MIDI [sync] Out port on their lines of digital recorders. It used to be the default standard about 20 years ago to include that. However, I stumbled upon nice workaround here on KZbin to sort of recreate it using the metronome function in my Zoom R8, selecting a sampled Volca sync pulse as its click sound, feeding it into a Volca Keys modified with added MIDI Out connector, and there I have the MIDI sync recorded originated from a track on my R8. Of course, you should be able to use any device with +5v sync in and MIDI sync out to create a MIDI Clock Sync and not have to hack an older Volca.
@Jgbaileymusic
@Jgbaileymusic Ай бұрын
Had to check the channel title for a second.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Haha, yep, we know! :) We hope it makes sense again after watching the video!
@nunoandradebluesdrive
@nunoandradebluesdrive Ай бұрын
it's all a question of cash. Of course if I had a chance I'd outsource some stuff - like mix and master.
@rainsong23
@rainsong23 Ай бұрын
Ha, I wonder if he has the same cat feeder as we do lol.
@rainsong23
@rainsong23 Ай бұрын
I've finally gotten around to listening to one of your podcasts. I enjoyed it.
@rome8180
@rome8180 Ай бұрын
I don't get the rationale for panning the drums from the drummer's perspective AT ALL. First of all, most people don't air drum. That's like maybe five percent of listeners. But you know what 100% of listeners have done? Seen a concert. And we don't watch a concert from behind the drum set. Also, you can't claim it's more natural and then still have the vocals be the loudest thing in the mix. That doesn't make sense if you're creating the illusion that you're behind the drum set. You know where the vocals will sound the loudest though? Out in the crowd.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
You know, I totally get what you're saying. And I still prefer drummer's perspective :) But Malcom is going to agree with you, haha! We've had this debate on our podcast forever. But also: It's not really important and we're not really serious about it. ;)
@davidduarte2887
@davidduarte2887 Ай бұрын
What’s with these silly comments? Everything you guys said is 100% true. Our individualistic society has people thinking they don’t need anybody else to help with anything. I see really talented people all the time trying to make their own records 100% DIY and that’s 100% ego. It doesn’t really save them money in the long run either because they spend so much time going back and forth “is this good enough?”, “am I good enough?”, etc taking years to accomplish a mediocre version of what they could’ve done and learned in months had they just checked their ego and hired a pro even if for just one song. Do that a couple times and invest in learning the craft and you’ll be years ahead of just doing it all on your own.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@davidduarte2887 thank you so much for this comment! Yes, it’s always sad to see someone make a record that could have been so much better. And that they are not really proud of. What a waste of time and talent. Your art is important. Give it the care and attention it deserves. Completely different story if you love the result and the process, though! In that case, do whatever makes you happy! But for most people this is not the case if they are being honest. So many never even release it because they think it’s not good enough. Or they release it but never promote it properly because they are not 100% stoked about it. “Great” or “great sounding” is highly subjective, but I think we can all agree that you as the artist should love it. And enjoy the process, as well. And that the ultimate goal is to make your vision come out of the speakers. Which is really hard to do.
@ernestwilliams6616
@ernestwilliams6616 Ай бұрын
I think you can still be DIY and get help. Some things I can DIY and when I need other services I get help, nothing wrong with gray here. I think this is about who is willing to ask for help because it's a skill to be objective with your own music. Just adding my opinions to the conversation, great discussion.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@ernestwilliams6616 I love this comment and absolutely agree! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
@davidduarte2887
@davidduarte2887 Ай бұрын
Option 1 I think is the best when you’re first starting out. But make sure you hire a pro that is happy to share info as you go. Then option 2 after you’ve had that initial professional experience so you know the attention to detail needed and how good you can sound. Option 3 will waste your entire life if your goal is to have a professional sounding commercial recording. It’s only a viable option once you actually have a ton of experience and are a pro yourself.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@davidduarte2887 Great way to think about it! Thanks for this!
@93thelema777
@93thelema777 Ай бұрын
Cecilia by Simon and Garfunkle was made without professional help . Just Simon and Garfunkel messing around with a portable Nagra tape recorder .
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Well, not really. Producer Roy Halee helped them create the tape loop, a few elements were recorded at Columbia studios and the drums were played by professional drummer and Wrecking Crew member Hal Blaine. Plus, it was a single off their fifth studio record. So they had plenty of professional experience already. Still a cool project, though! And a really good hybrid DIY example. Especially back then it was very unusual and impressive to do it like that.
@93thelema777
@93thelema777 Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband All I knew was that the main percussion part didn't use any drums and was cut from a longer tape of them playing around with a nagra - improvising on anything in local proximity they could tap a beat from . Then they took a good section of that session and looped it to around 3 mins . On Howard Stern Simon said that their were no drums used when Howard started playing Cecilia . It wouldn't surpise that CBS's producer used the wrecking crew to finish it off (Overkill?) , Still , the core of that track is that beat with the addition of acoustic guitar and vocals . If Simon was so inclined , he could of made a great demo using nothing but his 4-track? portable tape recorder . There's a lot of good folk recordings of artists just doing one take into a stereo reel-to-reel which was then just mixed down . Jeff Lyne used a consumer 4 track Beocord Duluxe . Analog systems/studio time forced artists to come to the studio prepared to wrap in very few takes . DAW's and certain plugins have taken the weight off of artists onto producers - or rather , the art now is as much in the production as opposed to the performance . Still , if you can sound great in an intimate controlled live setting , it's not too hard to get a high quality recording . If you're aiming for a Daniel Lanois-esq dynamic finished product , that's just not 'DIY' - If a pro plumber fixes his bathroom , he may have done it himself but that's not the general understanding of what it means to be a DIY effort .
@atomkraftstudios
@atomkraftstudios Ай бұрын
Eurythmics was DIY.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Interesting! Gotta look up how they learned and who exactly was involved in which way. Thanks for sharing!
@buddydudeguy5859
@buddydudeguy5859 Ай бұрын
Best DIY recording ever? Tom Scholz - Boston.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Gotta look that one up! Thanks for sharing!
@buddydudeguy5859
@buddydudeguy5859 Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband Released in 1976, so probably before your time. 😁 At that point, it was the biggest selling debut record ever, and it has stood the test of time. You'll be impressed.
@wildbird78
@wildbird78 Ай бұрын
Interesting theory as I have been DIY'ing for decades and my DIY songs have been used on The Today Show and NBC Golf just to name a couple.I think a better title could be "Why DIY Recording Doesn't Work For Some" :)
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
I think the key here is “DIY’ing for decades”. You obviously put in a lot of work to get good at all the different jobs that are part of making a record. Most people don’t realize that this is what it takes. And you probably didn’t figure it all out on your own but got help from someone at some point, right? Or did you really do it without any kind of feedback, mentoring or hiring pros at some point, so you could learn from them? Or at least books, courses or any kind of structured information?
@CrummyVCR
@CrummyVCR Ай бұрын
WHACK.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Well, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! :)
@angermanagementstudios
@angermanagementstudios Ай бұрын
Also: love the channel! New sub here lads!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Thank you so much! Welcome! 🙌
@angermanagementstudios
@angermanagementstudios Ай бұрын
I began recording as an artist in 1994. It was hard. Expensive. Time consuming. Many in the music industry are utterly unreliable. So I’ve spent the last 30 years leaning to do it myself. First as an amateur, then as a professional. And I STILL write, record, produce, engineer and master all of my own work as a solo artist and in my band. Maybe someone else could do it better. But I simply don’t trust anyone else to care enough. And more importantly, after all these years; I still LOVE the whole process!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
100% agreed! This is pretty much my story, as well. I learned to do it all myself and LOVED every minute of it. But it was also brutal and took a looong time. And then it all really took off, as soon as I started working with other professionals and looking for mentors. You don’t just wake up one day with the skills to make a record. You can either put in your 10000 hours, or get help from professionals / mentors. Ideally both, like I did. :)
@who_is_dis
@who_is_dis 12 күн бұрын
Same but I was born in '95 😂 so no way near as much experience but boils down to the same points.
@user-vb8ld4on2u
@user-vb8ld4on2u Ай бұрын
When my goal became to record and mix records that stack up to the local artists I like that either record at budget studios or DIY REALLY well, my productions changed for the better. Literally only doing it because I'm broke though, will gladly outsource everyone when I have the means. Would love recording other bands demos eventually.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@user-vb8ld4on2u keep crushing it! You’ll get there! Spend your resources wisely and invest in yourself as much as you can before spending it on anything else. Don’t waste money on gear. Spend time and money to acquire skills, to build relationships and to get the feedback and guidance that’s gonna get you to your goals so much faster.
@onlyghosts7152
@onlyghosts7152 Ай бұрын
Fetch the Bolt Cutters
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Yep, and have you read the story about that record? It took five years. And they spent several weeks at professional studios before returning to their home studio. It was a huge learning process, lots of trial and error and she was doubting her work during the mixing process, which almost caused her to give up. Feedback and objective outside perspectives got her back on track. Clearly not just someone thinking it will be easy. And also not someone trying to do it all on their own quickly.
@onlyghosts7152
@onlyghosts7152 Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband No offense but a record is going to take as along as it takes. There are highly produced records that take years to come together but fall short of being a highlight of an artist’s catalogue. Some records have you fighting tooth and nail to get the songs out or have already come together from years of playing them on the road or at home, early Daniel Johnston records come to mind and so does Roman Candle from Elliott Smith. All to say there are great DIY releases that people enjoy from all different genres. I don’t know guys, I just see making music as an art and something cathartic, if it takes 20 years to write a song on your own then that’s time well spent if the process is fulfilling. If you’re speaking to someone trying to “make it” I guess it helps but that’s definitely not everyone. I really do understand the sentiment and perspective here but I don’t see it as the end all be all. I’m sure Fiona was happy in retrospect with her approach and time spent, she’s notorious for having huge gaps of time between albums, collecting experiences and ideas along the way. Despite it all it really is a hugely successful DIY album at it’s core, with enough time and experience the simplest tools can craft something great.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@onlyghosts7152 I think we absolutely agree here! :) What I was trying to say is that this project is a “DIY” production. But “DIY” in this case (and most cases) is not what most people think it is. She learned a lot (from professionals) and she was willing to put in a lot of effort. You obviously understand that. And you’re correct in what you’re saying. It definitely is all about the art and the process and about being proud of it and enjoying it yourself more than anything. It’s not about “making it”. Not at all. But people hear “DIY”-record and think it doesn’t take experience, or learning from pros who have done it before, or any sort of investment (time and/or money). But it definitely does. Most won’t be willing to spend five years on a record, or go to pro studios for a few weeks (which is really expensive) to record there and learn, etc. They would have given up. And they expect amazing results way too quickly and without putting in nearly enough effort, time or money.
@onlyghosts7152
@onlyghosts7152 Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband I can see that but I would also say that amateur records can be amazing too. I definitely agree with tempering expectations but if that’s understood than I’m all for going in on a project with no experience if you’re passionate about it. Learning on the fly can be creatively fulfilling for a lot of people, we all have to start somewhere. I think it’s good to minimize the barrier for entry if it means trying stuff and taking risks. It’s always an option to incorporate more help and production too.
@TheConsideredMan
@TheConsideredMan Ай бұрын
It doesn't matter how good the production is, if the song sucks! As an architect, I remember when AutoCAD came into regular usage in architectural practices...if the designer was a poor designer, all that happened was the design was still poor, but it just got designed more quickley. Computers certainly offer many in the box opportunities along with vst's in abundance, but if the song or composition is awful, no amount of computing power or fancy footwork in production will make it better! A good song or composition also doesn't need a lot, either!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
100% agreed! And what you’re saying is actually part of what “great production” means. Production is not just engineering. Get the song and the arrangement right first. Then present it in the best way possible. It is all production.
@dadnelson4008
@dadnelson4008 Ай бұрын
If an artist can't get their point across with voice and acoustic guitar at the kitchen table ,then the song ain't ready for the studio , just my opinion
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@dadnelson4008 And it's a very valid opinion! :) Thanks for commenting!
@paulndorosh
@paulndorosh Ай бұрын
It really depends on the arrangement. Recording for a single classical guitar is much different than a 12 piece funk band. Also, some people are interested in learning how to do recording and enjoy the feeling of accomplishment that comes from DIY. Sure, you can get better results if you hire pro musicians and record at Abbey Road, but those who are DIYing don't exactly have truckloads of cash lying around.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Yep! Pretty much exactly what we’re saying in the episode! :) And there are affordable ways that allow you to do it all yourself and still get professional guidance. Exactly what we’re doing here all the time and why we’ve built that platform.
@RetroGameBench
@RetroGameBench Ай бұрын
sounds like the sales pitch of every snake oil vendor ever! :)
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@RetroGameBench Thanks for commenting! What do you mean exactly? The episode? Or people trying to sell you the idea that you can do it all on a high level completely on your own, if you just consume their content or apply their “secret”? Because the point of this episode is exactly to show you that it takes hard work to get to that high level. A LOT of hard work. And that you probably won’t be able to do it all super well on your own. Which is the truth. Not trying to sell snake oil here. Quite the opposite, actually. :)
@ChuckWasHere
@ChuckWasHere Ай бұрын
An hour long sales pitch? Come on, man. There's a lot of great info these guys are sharing in this episode. All they're saying is that it's very difficult to be all things in the area of music production. I'm sure you can build a house from scratch if you're handy, but will your DIY house job be as solidly built as one that you had contracted out to professionals? Not unless you're a skilled professional in every area of house-building.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@ChuckWasHerethanks so much for this, dude! Exactly what we’re trying to say! 🙌
@RetroGameBench
@RetroGameBench Ай бұрын
@@ChuckWasHere if you don't know how a house is built, there is a more likely chance that somebody will build a crappy house for you. clearly you don't know what you are talking about.
@ChuckWasHere
@ChuckWasHere Ай бұрын
@@RetroGameBench Yikes
@markaxiak4798
@markaxiak4798 Ай бұрын
There is no substitution for experience. In this case, studio experience.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@kevinpaige5746
@kevinpaige5746 Ай бұрын
Great arrangement = 80% of a great mix.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Absolutely! So true! That plus a great performance (playing/singing skills + emotion).
@angermanagementstudios
@angermanagementstudios Ай бұрын
So true brother.
@kevinpaige5746
@kevinpaige5746 Ай бұрын
Prince is the ultimate DIY artist. But,,,,,,if you listen to his greatest DYI album, "1999", it does sound a little "less-than". Of course, the artistry is overwhelming and makes up for any lack of sonic mastery. But, I do wish that record was slightly higher-fi.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
I mean, in a way yes. But he had a professional team running his studio. Pretty much doing exactly what we talk about here. Building a team. Focusing on what you’re good at. Delegating or getting help with the rest. He was the producer. But not all the other roles (engineer, editor, tech, etc) Btw. we had Hans-Martin Buff as a guest on our show. He was Prince’s engineer for many years. You’re gonna love the episode! :)
@electriceyeswatching4415
@electriceyeswatching4415 Ай бұрын
Talk sabout " professional" then goes on to talk about quantizing drums. " Drum editing" I'm sorry but your lifeless generic mixes might sound polished but they're boring to listen to.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
You will be surprised to hear that almost every record ever has been edited in some way. :) Including the very organic ones. Editing can mean a lot of different things. It’s not about making it generic or lifeless. It’s not about always quantizing it 100% to the grid. Not at all. It’s about being intentional. About making it feel exactly the way it is supposed to feel. And often the performance needs a little help to accomplish that. Sometimes it doesn’t. It has been done on tape and people still do it now. It’s part of making a great record and if it’s done right, you won’t even notice. How much you need to do totally depends on the genre, the vision for the record, the players, the performances and personal preference. No rules at all, here. That’s part of being a professional engineer/producer. Being open minded and knowing exactly what the song needs.
@VavShin
@VavShin Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband One of the greatest records ever is rage against the machines debut album. Recorded in a live setting with minimum overdubs. And for me, that's an ideal I want to move more towards for the band I'm playing with as well. When we record drums to a metronome, then our band leader edits the drums, and does a lot of quantizing and editing, and I record bass over that drum track, wich again gets quantized and edited... I feel that a lot of musicality is lost.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@VavShinYep, whatever feels great and gives you the right vibe for the record! There’s no right or wrong approach.
@robpaterson2222
@robpaterson2222 Ай бұрын
There are plenty of accomplished artists who are responsible for the lion's share of production work (and sometimes all production work) on their own records. DIY does not mean AMATEUR. No one should be mislead into thinking they can create anything without experience, but the idea that "professional" resources are required to make a "great" final product in 2024 is wrong. I'm also curious about how the term "great" is defined...what makes an album "great?"
@bobmortimerisweird
@bobmortimerisweird Ай бұрын
Exactly! To me, the composition is much more important than the recording quality, when it comes to measuring how great something is.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@robpaterson2222 Thanks for commenting! I think “great” means that you love it and that you are proud of it. That’s it. And yes, in theory everyone can DIY everything. And we love that idea! I come from a DIY background and have played in DIY hardcore punk bands, etc. That’s why I have built this entire platform, despite already having a successful studio career. I really love to support DIY artists! But in the right way. I want to help them avoid the common mistakes I see all the time. And the mistakes I’ve made myself. And I wouldn’t say I’m self-taught. I had amazing mentors. And I put in years of (unpaid) full-time work, struggling financially and emotionally, sacrificing a lot, to finally get to the point where I was able to produce great stuff that I was really proud of. And that made other artists want to work with me. So, it is possible, but it doesn’t work the way most people think it does. And I think most accomplished DIY artists will tell you the same. They wouldn’t consider themselves completely self-taught and they probably haven’t done it all themselves or without help from more experienced people. -Benedikt
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
@@bobmortimerisweird 100% agreed!
@matanmayzner9310
@matanmayzner9310 Ай бұрын
Tame Impala does it completely on his own and DIY
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Great example, thanks! And yes, that's (almost) true. There are professional mastering engineers involved in his records, but for the most part it is Kevin Parker. The important questions are: How did he learn it? How long did it take him? How much effort went into it? How much did he invest into learning it and into making these records? What did it take in terms of sacrifices in other areas of his life? Etc. 100% guaranteed that the answers to all of these questions are on a completely different level and not even close to what the average DIY musician is doing, or willing to do or what most people think it takes to do that. Not to mention his absolutely incredible talent and the genre that lends itself really well to experimenting with unconventional recording techniques etc. So yeah, if you can confidently compare yourself to Kevin Parker and are able to do whatever he did, then you have a chance! :) Again, a really great example and a true outlier. Thanks for posting this!
@matanmayzner9310
@matanmayzner9310 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the reply!Great question that I’m always asking as a producer myself, wondering what helped him to progress his skills so fast - was it a very stressful period of learning or simply by making music under the pressure to create something outstanding that a big artist as him probably experienced, and all in all, is there a method/strategy he’d recommend for someone who’d like to do it too
@justinp.3256
@justinp.3256 Ай бұрын
​@theselfrecordingband yea it's like saying Skrillex is 100% DIY. That's true, but the many years he was in his band, he was in studios and I'm sure he picked up on recording techniques/mixing techniques/general studio skills.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
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@Ankobiotics
@Ankobiotics Ай бұрын
Great topic. You're absolutely correct in that 99% of people don't know how to do it all (setup + room treament, recording, mixing, and mastering) correctly. And when you try to explain why they've produced audio fecal matter, they don't get it. It's really hard to communicate to a person that the reason their DIY recording is really bad is because they did the entire thing wrong and they now have to redo it. A lot of what separates a great recording from a bad recording is the attention to detail. Convincing people they got the details wrong is more difficult than actually getting them right. I do wonder if the current podcast gold rush is unintentionally creating better DIY recordings -- specifically, better vocal recordings. For example, if a fat woman in Brazil starts a podcast about her weight loss journey, but then she notices her podcast doesn't sound as good as another fat womans podcast that also talks about weight, the first woman will probably start googling and youtubing information to make her podcast sound better. It's like if you have the same AC as your best friend but when you're at their house, you notice their AC is much colder than yours. You'll want to find out why; maybe it's the room size, maybe it's the placement of the AC, maybe it's the compressor in yours, maybe there's a setting difference etc. Anyway, great episode!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Thanks for listening and commenting! Glad you like the episode! And yes, attention to detail is super important! PS: I assume you didn't mean to offend or hurt anyone, but I don't think the "fat woman" part was necessary and I'd love to keep this a safe space for everyone. So please consider that on future comments. Thank you! -Benedikt
@Ankobiotics
@Ankobiotics Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband No problem!
@EdgetoneStudios
@EdgetoneStudios Ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about your struggles Benny, but I'm glad you are taking care of yourself. We're rooting for you!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for listening, for your support and for your kind words! It really means a lot to me! 🙏
@thesearethesuns
@thesearethesuns Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story, it means a lot. You both are great people, and your passion and commitment to art is obvious but you have to take care of yourselves first. I appreciate you both very much, and thank you for all that you have given. Benedict, please don’t be so hard on yourself, go easy, and take things as they come. Anything extra is just a gift to us all. Please, take care of yourself, and be well for yourself and your family. ❤
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Thank you so much for listening and for that thoughtful comment! This means the world to me. 🙏
@coreystopperan9555
@coreystopperan9555 Ай бұрын
As a listener from podcast #19, your voices are a part of my musical journey. Missed the encouragement and inspiration from you two! Life happens to everyone, so glad to hear things are moving forward Bene! Just know you're supported in this life!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for listening every week and for this thoughtful comment! I really appreciate you and this means a lot to me. 🙏
@dafingaz
@dafingaz Ай бұрын
Legendary chat!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks so much for listening and commenting! :)
@dafingaz
@dafingaz Ай бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband You're welcome!
@DavidDorenfeld
@DavidDorenfeld 2 ай бұрын
Thank you!!!! So helpful
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband Ай бұрын
Glad to hear it! :) Thanks so much for listening/watching and leaving your feedback! :)
@clowray2747
@clowray2747 2 ай бұрын
Thanks. Wasted the first 12 minutes with crap nothing to do with the topic
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband 2 ай бұрын
Yep, that's how we do it here. It's a podcast, not specifically made for KZbin where everything is fast paced. Also, we've asked our audience multiple times and they love the banter, so that's why we keep doing it. :) Also, did you see that we even put a time stamp in the description that let's you skip right to the topic. :) But anyway, thanks for your kind comment!
@danielfarmer6062
@danielfarmer6062 2 күн бұрын
@@theselfrecordingband this other guy has is panties in a bunch
@popolokross444
@popolokross444 2 ай бұрын
The Genius himself, Dan Korneff. Thanks for this interview guys!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Yes, Dan is brilliant. And so is Luke! :)
@kursive1
@kursive1 2 ай бұрын
Some good points. I’m in my 40s and have made a lot of music on both computers and standalones. There’s always going to be a divide on this subject as the older folks will gravitate more to the tactile feel of buttons and sliders. Can’t beat the computers power and flexibility. Can’t beat the feel of old solid well built gear. Also, I’m on the computer all day at work. When I get time to sit and make music I don’t want to do it on the same machine I hated a few hours ago while I was staring at spreadsheets.
@Mike-vr7mb
@Mike-vr7mb 2 ай бұрын
She wrote a letter 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@christopherjbutler
@christopherjbutler 2 ай бұрын
Always good to hear what Dan has to say.. newly subscribed!
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband 2 ай бұрын
Welcome and thanks for the sub!
@lukedelalio3155
@lukedelalio3155 2 ай бұрын
For the curious, I'm eating a croissant...
@WilliamErickson-si7sb
@WilliamErickson-si7sb 3 ай бұрын
😮😮😮
@KelsterVonShredster
@KelsterVonShredster 3 ай бұрын
great video this helped me a lot. Ironicall I have a Focusrite 18i20.
@theselfrecordingband
@theselfrecordingband 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching and commenting! Glad you found it helpful!