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@JonnyWaldes 4 ай бұрын

wow 5 years later and I just bought the same one

@damianhersch2445 8 ай бұрын

Hi, I have some questions regarding charging the Fiat 500e modules. I have 4 6-S modules that I want to turn into 2 48 volt battery banks for a sailboat. What BMS would you recommend and how do I connect the BMS to the batteries? I am a novice when it comes to lithium batteries and electricity.

@firehazard86 8 ай бұрын

So you 11.6 is accurate. I always go but the tested number. Check mark means better then 90% from my experience.

@robertovic915 Жыл бұрын

Is there software available to connect to the BMW of the module?

@mattcrawford1436 Жыл бұрын

This is my first video of yours I’ve ever watched. Very interesting setup with breakers and fuses powering this mighty charger from a hidden battery source. I assume either you live off-grid or this is in a trailer. I’ll have to watch more videos to find out :) You might know this by now…. I’m on my second 4010 Duo charger so I personally addressed this years ago…. But the charge leads they included (the ones I assume you modified in this video) have “spring cage” 4mm bullets to plug into the charger. That was the hottest temp reading you got on the output. You should change these over to “solid” bullets (I don’t know what they are called, but similar to what’s inside your XT150 connectors). I just ordered 20 more from China for maybe $12, or you can get 4 from your local hobby shop for $5-8. The 4mm spring cage bullets are not rated to carry anywhere near the current you were pushing through them in this video. Stay supercool

@Dave_889 Жыл бұрын

cool video, I just purchase 4 of these and will be doing the exact same thing . I will be using them as solar powerwall

@ericklein5097 Жыл бұрын

Did Battery Hookup have any kind of guarantee on capacity? I just bought a 12S8P module off Ebay....I don't think its the same as this but I could be wrong and there could be 8P and 4P modules? Anyways the seller says tests show 90%-95% capacity and he's guaranteeing 90%...I'm very skeptical. Edit; my bad you have 12S8P modules too. Yours just have the M1A cells and the one I got is M1B so here's to hoping that the newer cell means a module thats not as old.

@scottboyce Жыл бұрын

Did you test your cells? Was this the socalev listing for "unused" backup cells? I'm curious how the capacity came out for you. Thanks!

@hobbsytoob 2 жыл бұрын

Nice SODDering hehe..sorry from the UK where it's soldering. As ya know, it's solder you are using. Not sodder. Haha. Good video! Also didn't know iCharger did a bigger unit like that. I've only recently bought an X12. Always learning. I guess one question is why these are deemed as BAE Systems (British Aerospace) when I doubt they are UK cells. Guess the original application? What was it?

@harleychannel2158 2 жыл бұрын

Couple of questions here. First off you seem like your very knowledgeable in what you do and thanks for the detailed video. The only 2 questions I have after watching are……. First what are the batteries for ? Second what’s is all the circuit breakers and other stuff on the wall for. I use regenerative discharge every so often and not the sharpest when it comes to understanding it all. I just hook up the 2 batteries, set values, and let it do its thing. Am I doing something wrong ? Thanks in advance for taking the time to respond.

@caserio323 3 жыл бұрын

wear you buy them From? Battery hookups?

@gt3911 3 жыл бұрын

Forgive me.... What's going on here? You set the input to battery? Are you charging the battery you are using as power? What's the purpose of that task?

@BATTERY73 3 жыл бұрын

The purpose of this setup is to capacity test batteries. The configuration allows me to do this very quickly, and without wasting power since I am moving power between two batteries, while metering the capacity. If not for this config, it would take significantly longer using the chargers internal load… appropriately take 10 times longer. Internal max load is 200 watts, vs 2000 watts in regen with the channels combined.

@roger8wilco 3 жыл бұрын

How thick are those nickel tabs/bus bars on those packs?

@tapaspal2000 4 жыл бұрын

Hey, I see your review. Absolutely amazing one! Always a thumbs up and looking forward to seeing the next video. I just wanted to say that I got a CRAZY good deal from BigBattery.Com! I bought these 24V LFP Batteries for only $949.99 and they're are working perfectly, so I would buy my batteries from them if you want the best price. I think this is the direct link - BigBattery.com/A123 Also I used the coupon code "Cycle5" for a 5% discount at checkout. I think it still works so I hope this helps!

@raymercado3650 4 жыл бұрын

Great job for letting us know. I almost bought some of these packs. Any good cell recommendations for making a battery bank for house or Rv with good value$? Thanks Ray

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

These are good cells if you can find some that are not so beat up and towards the end of its life. If you need 12v compatible LiFePO4 I would just buy new prismatic cells, Will Prowse on KZbin has a great channel. I generally build 24v and 48v setups and use a more energy dense lithium ion cell and usually source from EV cars. Deals change all the time based on availability. I have other videos about my Samsung SDI cells from a Fiat 500e if you want to check them out.

@jkenny1 4 жыл бұрын

Heh, never thought I'd see a TS-100 soldering so much cable together, must have taken some patience. I only operate mine at ~17-20V from a 5s pack so I guess I'm not getting the full 60W, but still seems like it'd barely be capable of that.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

jkenny1 I should have included a real time video of the 8 awg... it only took about 5 second of heating and it started accepting solder and was fully saturated within about 10 seconds. I use the largest tip they offer at 24 volts. 6s pack charged to 4.0v per cell. Give it another shot at full power, it continues to impress me a lot. Soldering the two 12 to the 8 took about 30-40 seconds, that was a lot of mass.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

TS-C4 tip

@harleychannel2158 2 жыл бұрын

The TS100 is a little beast and I love mine. I use it more often than my Pace, and JBC stations.

@superheaton 4 жыл бұрын

may i ask which blade did you use to do the cutting and what is your RPM at ?

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Timbo Yuen Not 100% sure to be honest. I have had that tool for years. It’s a small cut off wheel at medium to high speeds.

@superheaton 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 OK. Still appreciative

@electrojessy4270 4 жыл бұрын

a amasing piece od kit but its expensive if you don't need much amps and if you need to charge a few battery's is there a single version of this type of ballance charger

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. iCharger also makes the X6 and X8 models, which are single channel units. Very popular option, a lot more affordable and also have excellent current handling. The Duo series is basically two chargers in one, and that’s allows for some advanced features like regen between channels and synchronous mode.

@ParagonDIY 4 жыл бұрын

3A was enough, I'm at the construction stage and I'm wondering whether to use a 3A or 4A fuse

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Most certainly depends on how big the pack is and what type of batteries and load you have. Thanks for watching

@ParagonDIY 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 for me it will be 14s120p or more, I am thinking about a 3A or 4A fuse, the system will be loaded with a maximum of 100A

@pauljohnson-yk5dq 4 жыл бұрын

This video confuses me. Is this setup designed to test any BMS? Or is it just for the JBD BMS? BTW, a few words go a long way!

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Sorry buddy, I have my moments... sometimes I just feel like editing to music. This setup can test any basic BMS setup up to 15s. It’s just there to facilitate connection to some batteries quickly without making it permanent.

@sumeeths8423 10 ай бұрын

@@BATTERY73 what software is that?

@tapaspal2000 4 жыл бұрын

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@TheCashrip 4 жыл бұрын

This is the best supervillain origin story out there

@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing the temperature at different amps.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

DavidPoz I should have included a 30 amp test in video, but it’s still hotter than I would like it to be for something I would leave unattended. About 140F+

@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 Yes, hotter than I was hoping for. I'll go with the SB50 for my build. The terminals are larger, so probably less heat at 30 amps. Thanks for the help in deciding.

@SuperBrainAK 4 жыл бұрын

you should use XT-60 connectors, andersons are junk

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Haha Yeah, their current handling is lacking, but still love em. I actually have a huge collection of connectors, should have posted it in video... including XT60, XT90, XT120. But as when it comes specifically to Genderless connectors, Anderson still #1 for me. It’s nice having adapters made because running into gender issues gets old. Now that I have a reason for it, I’ll make some new charger leads and post a video about it. Thanks for watching.

@SuperBrainAK 4 жыл бұрын

One would assume you have a collection of nice big connectors, since you are the crimp daddy lol, don’t forget to solder though 😁

@superheaton 4 жыл бұрын

Dear Crimp Daddy, how did you cut the conducting plates welded onto the tops of the cells? It also looks like a good job.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Timbo Yuen kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGWthYRqaMafetE

@icarus901 4 жыл бұрын

I like the DIN rail lever terminals. Would you mind sharing where you sourced them? I tried to find that type, but came up blank.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

icarus901 they are called Wago wire nuts. These are generic ones from AliExpress

@艾美玲-q5v 4 жыл бұрын

oh ,that JBD bms ,that's so cool,I love JBD bms

@percybrown9191 4 жыл бұрын

Just don’t know why this so-called music, so distracting?

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Percy Brown It’s by design... my own creation.

@cyumadbrosummit3534 4 жыл бұрын

Subscribed. Wait until you start playing with Tesla modules, you'll put the Fiat batteries on Ebay like I did.

@cyumadbrosummit3534 4 жыл бұрын

Great idea. Want me to send you an Ant-Bluetooth BMS to test? I have a spare I purchased. Its been good thus far.

@DavidPozEnergy 4 жыл бұрын

This is a good idea.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

I appreciate you watching. I am a fan/subscriber and enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work on your setup.

@stingy49 4 жыл бұрын

Nice app. What is it? Something you made?

@stingy49 4 жыл бұрын

Ahh just saw your other comment. apps.apple.com/us/app/xiaoxiang-bms/id1375405426

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

I wish I was that good... iOS App Store.

@offgridwanabe 4 жыл бұрын

Cool tool

@joseazurara3245 4 жыл бұрын

Very good. Where can we find the software to test ?

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

apps.apple.com/us/app/xiaoxiang-bms/id1375405426

@joseazurara3245 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 Thanks. I also have 3 bms from www.lithiumbatterypcb.com/ with 15S. I use sw for Android and Windows to check the status of the cells and to configure the BMS. I didn't understand how to test the BMS with its own configuration sw. Did I not quite understand what you did? thanks.

@kkevinBP168 4 жыл бұрын

Can you put all the part link in description? Thanks!

@paolobarbero1630 4 жыл бұрын

the inutility setup hahah

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Paolo Barbero hardly... Now I get to save time. Charging/discharging 2.5 amp hour instead of 60-120 amp hour just to test a threshold is nice. Plus I had the parts, weekend Covid lockdown project haha.

@benzoesansodu5866 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 Hiho, is it app for Windows or Android/IOS? There is other, looks better app than xiaoxiang ^^

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

benzoesan sodu It’s an English 3rd party app compatible with the original hardware. apps.apple.com/us/app/xiaoxiang-bms/id1375405426

@jasonflt 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 ya that does look so much nicer than the android version

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Jay Rock It is a substantial improvement and very easy to use.

@offgridwanabe 4 жыл бұрын

That is my bench in my mind but not so much when I wake up lol

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, always nice to hear from you. Keep it going!

@kernhamilton553 4 жыл бұрын

Would this be good for ebikes

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

I feel the power density is too low to be useful for ebikes

@nealstephensonhiro72 4 жыл бұрын

I just built a 36v pack with one of these and traveled 65 km on the first charge ( at an average speed of 15 kmh ) . I'm not a pro, but I feel like that's satisfactory power density

@GTrainRx7 4 жыл бұрын

I watched this video because a) it has a 26650 build and b) Crimpdaddy? HILARIOUS!

@GTrainRx7 4 жыл бұрын

I swear 'mericans don't know that the L in "solder" is NOT silent.. :D

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

I’m actually British, but you are not wrong.

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Where mAh stripper at?

@eyeswideshut2800 4 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 good one

@eyeswideshut2800 4 жыл бұрын

@@GTrainRx7 The pronunciation is ˈsädər and you DO NOT pronounce the "L" but now you know just how smart you are naught(also correct). No offense to the Brits but they are not well versed in the English language but maybe that's a generational hiccup.

@ronbethmiller 4 жыл бұрын

I have a Batrium with 12v 800ah batt...Could I use a shunt trip instead of a contactor....Is inrush a concern?

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

The shunt trip is a breaker, and it would be a good idea to have one that is appropriately sized for the battery bank. it would still provide over current protection even if Batrium was to fail. Contactor could be useful to shut off a load, and it could also turn it back on. it’s all in how you decide to design your system. Lots of valid ways of going about it.

@sgordley1 4 жыл бұрын

Nice workbench I'm envious, what BMS are you using on those re purposed Fiat batteries

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I am testing various types... I haven’t settled on a final yet but I do like the Bluetooth bms units that you can find from China.

@damianhersch2445 8 ай бұрын

Do you a specific model in mind?

@4N2IN0JA 4 жыл бұрын

This was a cool video! At full throttle it says it’s pulling 78 to 83kw. How many cycles should these last in my car? I try to only charge it to 70% and discharge only to 20%

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

Not sure. Certainly less than in a stationary power storage system which had a much lower discharge current, and is my main focus. if your loads are somewhat close to OEM then you could perhaps assume similar life to what the manufacturer estimate for their production vehicle. I too am limiting my max charge voltage to about 4.1 per cell and no more than 70-75% DoD.

@dogdipstick 5 жыл бұрын

Uhm... . Do any of yall even know what NEMA 4 Enclosure is? Do you even know the difference between NEMA1,2,3,and 4? Or conduit for permanent installations? SMH.

@BATTERY73 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for commenting. I am familiar with NEMA enclosures and their applications. This is all a work in progress friend. I’ll get there eventually. I am far from finished and didn’t want to deal with restricted access while constantly changing things or re-routing conduit either for something very hobby level. I am however keeping an eye out for deals on used or recycled cabinets for my primary install, which this isn’t. Thanks for watching.

@offgridwanabe 5 жыл бұрын

Works good on low voltage now this may sound like a dumb question but does it work for any other voltages in other words is it multi-functional. Your system is awesome.

@BATTERY73 5 жыл бұрын

Not quite sure I understand the question… If you are referring the LVD PCB, it is setup for 24VDC voltage range only. The shunt control coil is 24VDC/VAC, but other options can be had. The battery/system voltage can be different than the control, meaning the breaker itself is rated for 500VDC. I could easily re-purpose many of these components for a system that has a much higher voltage.

@offgridwanabe 5 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 Thanks I understand the low voltage set for the trip what I was wondering can it have a high trip or do 2 programmable functions held in memory say if the Hz was too high could it shut down

@BATTERY73 5 жыл бұрын

@@offgridwanabe Absolutely possible… but not as configured in Part 3. I could add an over charge protection relay in addition to the LVD. At this point the LVD is an interim solution to protect against over discharge in case I forget to turn something off. Eventually I will replace the LVD with something a bit more robust which will allow me the trigger the shunt trip across a multitude of different fault conditions. The control system could really be anything, as long as you can control a relay with it.

@offgridwanabe 5 жыл бұрын

Looking good where did you get the shunt trip if you can share.

@BATTERY73 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That is a used component I bought on eBay. It’s worth mentioning the shunt trip is an accessory for the breaker, if you are shopping make sure it has one because not all do.

@offgridwanabe 5 жыл бұрын

You are very organized nice work bench and that shunt trip breaker is a monster. Thanks for sharing

@BATTERY73 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@mmichniel12 5 жыл бұрын

Wher can i get battery like that? And how much cost it?

@BATTERY73 4 жыл бұрын

eBay and the price varies

@eyeswideshut2800 4 жыл бұрын

Battery Hookup has a 48 cell pack for $49.00 and KZbinr did a breakdown on one, they're sold out of most things and who knows how long they'll last but been there a minute, use code BATTERY for 10% off, can't remember whose code it was but works.

@mmichniel12 5 жыл бұрын

ale bym chciał taka baterie

@jgerke55 5 жыл бұрын

Could this pack work in a Golf Cart?

@BATTERY73 5 жыл бұрын

If the golf cart is 36v lead acid, it should/could depending on the rest of the setup min/max charge range. Voltage wise it should be compatible if 36v if all checks out.

@James-uz9nj 2 жыл бұрын

@@BATTERY73 they are 36v battery pack with BMS, could I use them as golf cart directly? so I do not need to teardown them and buy new bms and welding. logically yes?

@Lumbeelegend 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the info!

@josepht6274 5 жыл бұрын

how long will it take to balance this pack. i just order the battgo charger to get my cells balanced was doing it manually when they got to far out of balance

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