Luke both are very different boats. The Calypso allows you to store limited gear in hulls where as the H16 requires tied down bags to centre of tramp. As the Calypsos get older more concerns are held to having beams and hulls in sound condition and then equaling weight between both hulls. The Calypso can certainly carry more weight but a Hobie 16 will out sail with speed and does better in swell given the height clearance above water line. I love being able to choose where I pack weight on the H16 too i.e if I’m sailing down wind I’ll move weight further back or to one side based on wind direction for long distances with limited tacks/gybes.

@ thanks Matt really appreciate the info. Trying to find a good cat for son and I to do some camp cruising on. Combined crew weight about 150kg and then enough capacity for camping supplies as well. Realise a H18 might be better but want a boat I can right if it goes turtle so thinking 16ft max might be better. Sounds like a H16 could be a good option

@@lukec7838 The Hobie 18 is a beautiful boat but another beach cat that is slowly aging and if its not up to scratch rigging/tramps/sails are crazy expensive now. The H18 does take alot more weight but i've always loved the challenge of being a minimalist and using similar gear to hiking to save on weight. I weighted 95kg ish when i owned my H18 and I could right it solo using a righting pole but if my son was with me he would just climb onto my harness and we'd right it together no problems.

This particular F82R isn't really a solo boat but you can certainly spend $$$ and set one up for solo'ing in the right weather

Absolutely, I’ll message you now

David some owners have/do and its certainly alot of fun

He posted 18 kts. My best is 19 kt. But others in the Galveston Bay Area, with larger trained crews, have done 24/25. Coarair suggests not topping 32 kts in an F28R, and I agree, its a wild ride at those speeds.

From memory the F82R’s PHRF is .850 . My Corsair Pulse is .800 . Looks like your 51 is North American? Here in Australia PHRF is used for mixed multihull fleet racing and will change based on your past performances. It’s also measured based on sail measurements

@@4021800 : That looks like an OMR rating. We're still using PHRF around here. I'll need to figure out how to convert.

@@trisailor3318 OMR for the F82R is 0.813 and my Pulse is 0.769. As I said before our usage for PHRF here is different to North America

Its dumb because of the conditions on the day. Most people will never sail during a westerly wind on the east coast of Australia as the gusts are typically 50-75% greater than wind.

@@4021800 yeah I gotta give the Hobie guys props. They knew how to sail that boat..

@@garysouza2277 absolutely!

It was a magic day. SEQHS have been quieter over the past 12 months but your always welcome to join us. I haven’t seen the SEQIC group in along time

@@4021800 I'll try to get up to QLD over winter. Not certain I'll make it this year tho.

It was an awesome day, cheers!!!

Totally agree Phil, the H17 is very under powered for somebody my size but I sold this H17 years ago upon purchasing the H18 u can see in my videos (also sold) so I never got the chance. Also, I’d never load a 20yr old comptip mast with a spinnaker. The design and support just isn’t there.

@@4021800 If you don't mind me asking, how much do you weigh? Figure I'm under the line of someone to big for it at 160lbs haha, buy I'd like to know. Thanks

@@haydenm.3912 Back then I would have been about 90-95kg so 200-205ish. I’m absolutely on the heavy side for a H17 especially one without a jib. If you watch the H17 fleet who race in North America too they’re all on the small size

Corsair 31 is Corsair's version of the Farrier 31.

Thx man, I’m just editing a new video for my trip in the Keppel Islands. Be sure to check it out!!!!!

Thx Ben. Spin is attached but furled up the entire day. Watch my other videos to see how large it is. Certainly too much sail area for the conditions that day

Thanks Jack. One cat had stubbies the other had bourbon and cokes

Hahahaha if the wife supports you getting a new sail for viability that's awesome! This one was made by ChipBuck @ Whirlwind Sails in the US. I couldn't recommend a better aftermarket Hobie sail maker. www.whirlwindsails.com/

@@4021800 Thanks! I was just on his site, looks very reasonable!

Glad you enjoyed it and great analogy!!!!!

werekorden here on the East Coast of Brisbane, Australia we get Westerly winds during our Winter (June/July/August) Westerly winds are extremely inconsistent and packed with very high wind gusts which make sailing only for the faint hearted. The westerly gusts are typically double that seem during the rest of the year. Example: Forcast is for 15-20kts with Westerly gusts 25-30kts.

Matt O'Brien ok, and I don‘t have the problem of stability with my monohull than you have with your multihull. Did you had a in a reef?

werekorden at the start of the video - full main and large jib. On them return leg at the end of the video the main is reefed. I would take the stability of a multihull any day over a leaning monohull

​@@4021800 :-D Haha yeah that's the reason why I do windsurfing and monohull sailing. Hope the new technique will soon be available for everyone at a low price

Hi Dave, we sail all over SEQ but the Manly Harbour ramp is used by James with his F82R as he's a member of the club there. If you enjoy our bay, multihulls or sailing videos be sure to check out my library.

@@4021800 I just subscribed 👍🏼I currently sail a Hobie Tandem Island, it's no where near as fast as either boat in this video, but still fun.

Dave If you checkout my earlier videos like ‘H16 Ripping it up around OldWoman Island’ you’ll see my SEQHS group sailed a lot with the SEQ HOBIE Island Club but they don’t seem to organise sailing in groups anymore unfortunately

PELAGEOS thanks so much for your positive comment.