Well thanks for the comment and I did not knock the rifle I knocked Umarex for marketing as a budget friendly PCP air rifle which it is clearly not. I even said that I was not knocking the actual rifle it self in the video. I also said that the gun is well built and is pretty accurate for what it is as well and if it had a refillable tank I would have bought one myself, And that some people may like it and think it is great which is fine. But when you look at the cost in the long run there are many better options out there. As far as spring air rifles go not sure what type or brand of springer you are shooting but I own many spring air rifles and they are my favorit e air rifles and I have never had any issues with ay of mine holding zero with the right scopes and rings this is not a problem. But that is another conversation all together. If this gun worls for you then great enjoy it have fun with it and keep shooting it.

thanks for the comment and watchign the video and ya us lefties need to stick together lol. Love my TX200 such an amazing air rifle worth every penny in my opinion. Cheers back from the USA.

@ Thank you for your reply I wish you and yours a very happy and safe Christmas and new year God bless and good health regards ❤️👍👍👍

@@shirleydrury5565 thanks for watching and supporting the channel i really appreciate it. You have a safe Christmas and new years as well.

great comment as well said and so far it has been doing fine other then the rear open sight floating after about 18 to 20 shots. I like shooting with open sights and that was one of the reasons I bougght this gun was to keep a scope off it and like I said in the video that was pretty much the only bummer for me. But it is a tack driver with a scope on it as you saw and I do like the gunand if they can just put some better fixed open sights on it then for me it is an all around winner. Still not a bad rifle for the price and it will definitely puch out some critters in the backyard that is for sure. I definitely have no problem using it for that and small game hunting. Hope you and your son have a blast with them.

@@BravoBassinWhat scope are you using ?

@@EricNeal-g1k center point 3x9x40 here is a link:amzn.to/3DpPJcG Great budget scope and works great on spring air rifles and not very expensive at all.

Thanks my friend I hope you are doing well and hope you have a great christmas.

@@BravoBassin You as well

Thanks it gets a lot of attention when I were it around town as well lol!

Check out the Joker OSO that I reviewd a few weeks ago on amazon as they make that one with a stag handle as well which is larger and it is super nice.

@@BravoBassin I'm a kind of spoiled my friend. My best friend makes in my opinion the best and most beautiful knives in Scandinavia that money can buy. I just have to tell him what i want and he'll make it for me 😉 The leather work is also superb. I really have every model i need for each job 😁 He makes me often a knife for Xmas, for my birthday or just to give me something. I like the Joker knives because you get a lot of knife for the money but what my friend makes is an other level and craftsmanship. Everything is hand made, even the blades are own designed and hand made. The knives my friend makes are more comparable with Randall knives. Cheers!

@@rapalaron6348 That is asome and super cool. Funny thing my oldest brother is a knife maker he has a whole line in smpkey mountain knife works. It rook me years to finally get a knife from him do to him being so busy, lol. I will be reviewing that knife soon. I actually thought I was never going to end up getting gone lol! His brand is jackalope knives just fyi

That would be JSB or FX and a few other brands in a tin of 500ct. But you would know that if you actually new more about air rifles other then what you have seen at walmart. And I would love to know what pellets you are getting in a tin of 500ct for $10 because crosman premiers are not decent pelets my friend.

Thanks for the comments I really apprciate itt I have owend this boat for many years now and it has been a great boat to have. I have taken it out on big bodies of water to small ponds and it has been so much fun fishing out of it. Better then any big boat I have eve owned and a lot less hassle that is for sure.

Well that is not a bad deal at all I have been using mine for years and has been one of the best boats I have ever owned I love mine.

Maybe for you it works great for me and what I use it for. But do you even know how much a small axe/hatchet can come in handy sometimes obviously not considering your comment.

Ya it seems most of my subscribers are on her team lol!

So you got so bored with my video yet you took the extra time to make a stupid comment on it. Now tell me genius how does that make any sense? What a Moron!

Thank you for the great comment and my wife will really appreciate it as well. She loves to shoot air rifles.

Thanks for the comment and ya she loves to shoot her air rifle. She has become a really great shot and really enjoys gettting out and doing some target shooting. thanks for the great comment and for watching the video.

Well glad you like it and if it world for you then great but most people that shoot air rifles tend to shoot a lot more then80 to 100 shots a year which would fall into your 2 cartrige bottles a year thing. no matter how you slice and the point of this video is that this is not a budget friendly air rifle as they are marketing it to be, ANd I am not trying to bash on umarex either becuase I own 3 other of there PCP rifles and I love them like the one I show in this video. As I have said even in this video if you like it and it works for you then great enjoy it have a blast but for most of us there are way better options at a better cost like the Notos that I showed in this video. THanks fo rthe comment and watching the video.

@BravoBassin there are many nice features to this gun. To be fair I'd bet most people have these guns like I do for an occasional gopher or rabbit that needs to be taken care of. It's the perfect gun for that. No it's not for shooting 1000s of shots but truly is a very accurate user friendly gun.

@@lanehogstad6477 So I have never said anything bad about the qaulity, accuracy or build about this gun. What I have pointed out and stated in this video and even talking to Umarex thenselves is that they market this as a budget friendly PCP which it is clearly not due to the re accuring cost of the air cartridges that you will need to keep buying. And if you just need to take out a Gopher, Rabbit or any small backyard critter in that range you can just bby a crosman 392 multi pump for $109 on amazon and pick the off all day long no extra air cattridges required or you can get a Gamo swarn DX !0x multi shot from the Gamo web site for $139 with free shipping no extra air cartridges required and both pack a good punch. And Umarex themselves told me they literally only made this air rifle at this price and design to get it into walmart so they can up sell people later on a higher end PCP air rifle down the road. So I will 100% stand by what I have said in this video. All I am trying to do is help people make a better informed dcision decision before wasting there money when there are many way better options out there. thanks for the imput I do appreciate it.

thanks for the comment and watching the video.

Hey there my friend Ya Jennifer did not want me to post this video because she did not shoot as well as she normally does. ANd after we turned off the camera she did not miss one target after we turned the camera off lol! She is a great shot and lovves to shoot so ya it is a great thing to know that she can back me up when the SHTF hits. She is a natuural when it comes to shooting and she was a fast learner and is always trying to get better at it. And she is very competitive as well when we shoot together as well lol. She can definitey hold her own when shooting that is for sure.

The stock screws and the 2 trigger screws I put a little red lock tight on and then snug them up so there is no play in them. Basically as tight as I can without stripping or breaking anything just good and snug. as far as the bugger pivet screws I always check but havve never had to tighten then up on any weihrauch I own. I also do the red lock tight on the stock screws and trigger guard screws on all my air rifles like this.

@ Thanks, that’s good information re the pivot screw. I snugged up the pivot screw and totally threw my .177 HW32S out of whack. If I was a girl I would have cried, seriously. 😒 After a lot of research and fine tuning I’m back to where it’s shooting 10 shots through a thumbnail size hole at 25 yards and under 1” CTC 5 shots at 50 yards is not uncommon. I learned my lesson. So glad to find your channel! I really enjoyed watching your 30 yard grouping with your HW30. Do you have the real estate for 50 yards? Would really like to see what you can do at that range. Your wife is a great shot with her R7. I just ordered my second HW. This time HW97K. Currently stuck in the mail due to Canada postal strike. 😳 what pellets work best for the R7? Sorry for the rambling.

@@IREFUSE9 No worries ask all the questions you like. My wife loves her Beeman R7 I really like it as well. She uses JSB 8.4gr pellets in her R7. I do have enough land to shoot 50yds So I will have to make a video shooting at that range for you. I own the HW87K in the synthetic stock with the stainless steel barrel amazing air rifle you will love it. I also own the HW77k as well both are amazing air rifles to own and shoot. Hopefully the canadian postal people will get back to worksd so you can get yours sooner then later. Hell we did not even know they were stricking up there until yesterday when another youtuber told me that was going on. Zero reporting on it here in the U.S.

Jennifer is a great shot and she learned very fast I am very proud of how well she shoots. She can definately hold her own in a shooting competition. She also genuinely love's to traget shoot and will never turn down a chance to get out and plink some targets. thanks for watchign the video and the comment.

Hey there my friend these are great knives and the perfect size in y opinion as well for all around outdoor tasks including skinning animals or any other type of wood woring or camp task food prep stuff you might need a good knife for. And no I have not reviewd these blades before I think you are thinking of the Joker Ember I did a few months ago which does have a similar look with the drop point and olive wood handle but is a larger knife with a thicker blade and handle. Hope all is well in your neck of the woods my friend. I just wrapped up another air rifle video reviewing the Beeman R7 .177 air rifle that is my wifes air rifle she always shoots. it will be out the beginning of January as I have a few knife reviews coming the next few weeks as I have a pile of them to get to so need to get a few knocked out. And axe videos as well which I have not even thought about starting on yet lol!

@@BravoBassin Yes i remember now it was the Joker Ember you did a review on. I'm getting old 😅 I have several Puma fixed blade four star knives i my collection. They have a similar blad shape as the Pantera. The Beeman R7 review i'm looking forward to. Always like to see springer action. The HW35 was the only air rifle i used with the iron sights. Up to 10-15 meters i could still shoot accurtate but my eyes won't focus anymore on longer range. Just for fun i mounted a Hawke Vantage 1X30 red dot and if i put on my glases for long range sight and than i see the target very well and i'm able to shoot one inch groups on 30 meters. I'm happy i tried because i want to have at least one rifle without any magnification. Snow weather here in the north. Some days to much wind or to cold for shooting. I do 10 shots from my terras but when hand getting cold the feeling is gone. Take care my friend!

@@rapalaron6348 Ya the Beeman R7 is a great gun and super accurate with or without a scope as the open sights on it are top notch. I like shooting with open sights and I have a couple air rifles that are set up that way keeps me sharp on the trigger lol! But most of my air rifles have a scope on them these days. WE do not have snow yet but the temps have been dropping but today was 65 degree and sunny so it was a very nice day but we are supposed to get a cold front to night ane be back in the 40's and 50's again. The weather here goes up and down like a yo yo so you never know what you are going to get anymore lol!

Well unfortunately I doubt they will lower the price of the air canisters as those type air takes have been pricey since they hit the market in the Co2 style but yo can always hope. I will say i fyou get a chance though pick up the umarex notos as it is a great air rifle I love mine and is super hand pump friendly as well. thanks for the comment and for watching the channel.

Hey Bro I am not trying to say that it is shooting a 1 inch MOA group at 30yds I am using the 1 inch MOA coin as a compairison to show people it is shooting a 1 inch group at 30yds And anyone with half freaking brain would understand and get that.

@@BravoBassin - Ah, poor baby, it's little feeling got hurt, LOL. Oh and 1 inch at 30 yds isn't the gun, it's your poor shooting, pretty simple!

@@irishkelly654 Man what a dipshit you are do you really thing some ass whip making stupid comments on a video I made would hurt my feelings? You think way to highly of yourself I could care less about little piss ant trolls like you. But every time you post a comment it helps my algorithm out so thanks for the support.

@@BravoBassin - Ah princess, you're triggered, take a breath, count to ten. All I know is hopefully you can get some instruction on how to shoot a rifle?! Maybe concentrate on that, LOL...

@@irishkelly654 The funny thing is you actually think that I care about what you say or think which is sad my little troll. But please feel free to keep supporting the channel and commetning becuase all it does is help so thanks again for that.

Thanks for the comment appreciate it. and for watchign the video.

I will say that GGK makes amazing Khukuris and they are great to work with when ordering from them time from order to my front door being shipped from Napal was 7 days. And I was able to talk to Purna Directly which was really nice as well. Purna unfotunately died in a car accident this past year but his wife and Family have taken over and are still making amazing Khukuris As it is and has been a family business that has been past down for many generations. I plan on ordering more in the future my self. Thanks for watching the channel and for the comment.

@@BravoBassin Oh wow that's unfortunate, great to know they still work on them though because they are awesome and beautiful knives. I hope they make more 10 inch ones, the one I went for was 8 inches. I didn't wanna grab 12 inches since it's a little big and I don't know if I could conceal it well. I've always been a big fan of kukri knives, so much cooler to me than karambit's or butterfly knives.

@@Chicxulubs Ya it was sad to hear ofo his passing an 8 inch to 11 inch khukuri are the perfect size in my opinion I do not care for anything over 11 inches for the most part when it comes to khukuri But i do like the 6 inch size as well for some things. Hope you like the one you get as I am pretty sure you will.

Hey my friend ya you might want to get a bigger kit sooner then later considering what is going on over in your area right now with Russia and Ukraine. Things are getting a little crazy in the world.

@@Rocktalk101 Agree my friend. I still don't know who i should fight when the shit hits the fan. The Russians or the no brain political war lovers who got us into Nato without asking the people and are responsible for this escalation. Guess i'll have to fight everything trespassing my property with two legs lol 😆😆😆Take care my friend.

Hey Just FYI if I did not tell you this is my other youtube channel rocktalk101 is my music channel and bravobassin is my outdoors channel. Not sure if I told you that or not. And Ya I feel the same way Honestly I do not feel that Russia is the bad guy in this situation I feel the U.S. and Nato and the bullshit politicians are the bad guys in this situation So ya I feel the same way. I saw that in Sweden and FInnland they have told all of you to start preparing for war and are actually hading out pamplets on what to do which is freaking crazy. These freaking leaders of these countries are leading us right into WW3 and a nuclear war it is just freaking nuts!

@@BravoBassin Yeah, i've got a b.s propaganda brochure what to do when war and other evil breaks out. To follow those recommendations are suicide. YT is shadow banning me again and can't read my own comment. Hope the whole Biden adm. will end up in jail. Lousy no brain losers allowing dictator Zelensky to send missiles before Trump takes over. Its our governments who are the enemy.

@@BravoBassin nobody is blameless in that mess, but unfortunately NATO headed by elements within the US has kept pushing and poking at Russia with more and more provocative things. This was started by the Germans and the French though, and then parts of the US state department decided it sounded like a good idea and threw their weight behind it. Russia has been telegraphing that the NATO expansion was increasingly threatening to it since about 2006. And if our politicians weren't either incompetent or malicious we should have hashed out some kind of agreement with a band of Eastern Europe as a neutral zone so the Russians weren't paranoid about us encroaching into their tranditional invasion corridors and sphere of local influence.

Thanks fo rthe comment apprciate it and for watching the channel as well.

Thanks and yes it is ana amaing looking stock for sure and a super amazing air rifle as well super accurate and a lot of fun to shoot. thanks fo ryour comment and watching the video.

thanks appreciate it this little air rifle is a tack driver I have a full review video up on the channel now on this air rifle with a scope on it as well. I love this HW30s one of my favorite air rifles to shoot. thanks for watching the channel as well.

Yes I love having the option of both but I can say that weihrauchs are not hard on scopes at all but with every spring air rifle you need to always make sure you get a scope that is rated for a spring air rifle. I personally use 3 different brands of scopes that have been tried and true and proven themselves to me over the years which is Hawk, UTG, and centerpoints. I use all 3 and have been using all 3 brands for many many years now. thanks fo rthe comment and watching the video.

Thanks for watching and the Sub and were in colorado do you live I actually lived in Evans/Greeley colorado for 8yrs about an hr north of denver and east of loveland/Fort Collins. Home for me is Wyoming but currently stuck in southern Virginia for now. I sure do miss the west and have been trying to move back out that way for a few years now but things are way to expensive currently for me to afford to do it but I will get there soon I hope. I had great neighbors when I lived out there and used to shoot in my back yard and teach them and there kids to shoot so had no issues but that is very hard to find for sure so I understand your delema for sure. I have more Air rifle reviews coming I always try to mix them in with all my other outdoor stuff but always try to put at least 1 or 2 in a month. Feel free to ask me any questions at all about air rifles and I will do my best to answer them for sure. Thanks again for watching and the support I really do appreciate it.

@@BravoBassin we live in longmont colorado about 20 mins south of loveland. Our city passed laws about pellet guns and shooting them with in the city limits. So KZbin has become a good resource for sharing info about air rifles. I'm currently eyeing that gamo bone collector you have as a birthday present to myself. Could you possibly tell me the length from the end of the dove tail to the magazine loader? I'm looking at upgrading the scope on the rifle and it seems they may hit the magazine loader if there too long. Just trying to get an idea of length to work with. The scope I'm looking at is advertised as 12.2 in. in length. Do you think that would fit on the bone collector without hitting the magazine loader? Sorry I know this video was about the beeman R7 but I'm pretty sold on another gamo to add to the collection. Plus 10 shots just cock the barrel seems like would save you some time loading. The R7 shoots very nicely though I do have to say.

@@ryansumners3153 Yep I know exactly were longmont is have few friends that live in that area still. As far as the Bone collector it is a very nice gamo and very accurate out to 30yds shoot quarter size groups all day long at least mine does anyway. And yes the 10 shot mags are greatr for quick follow up shots as well which is really nice. As far as scopes go the distance from the end of the dove tail to the mag loader is about 3-1/8 inches and I am currently rumming a 3x9x40 AO cneterpoint on my bone collecter and that is about as big as you can go with a scope on there as there is zero room for anything bigger on it unless you want to remove the mag loader. Sucks longmont past that law kinda ruins things but this is why I do not live in any neighborhood anymore and live on several acres of land and will never live in a neighborhood ever again. I am fortunate enough to be able to have my own shooting range literally in my back yard right of my back porch. I will say that for $100 more you could get a weihrauch HW50 in .177 or .22 and thye are amazing air rifles I own 2 of them one in .177. and the limited addition 125yr anniversary one in .22. Also check out the Cometa series of air rifles from keystoneairguns.com/ I will be picking up one of these pretty soon I have seen and heard a lot of good things about these air rifles. But again the Gamo bone collector is a very nice air rifle as well and seeing as it is the holidays gamo will be having some black friday sales going on probably now through christmas. That is usually when I pick up a new gamo air rifle. Anyway hope that helps and I appreciate you watching the channel and for you questions and comments.

@BravoBassin thank you for the advice about the scope. That is actually the size scope I was looking at. I look forward to your future videos coming up. You do a good job shooting and producing good content. Keep up the great videos you have my support!

@@ryansumners3153 Thanks I appreciate that as I try and do my best. As far as scopes go just make sure you get an air rifle rated scope. Me personally I recommend Hawk, UTG, And centerpoint scopes for good air rifle scopes and I use all 3 currently through out my air rifle collection. Let me know how you like that bone collector after you get it and shoot it for a bit. I will tell you that it definitely has a way it likes to be held but once you figure out that hold you will be pretty happy with how well it shoots.

Cool the Beeman R9 is on my list to get as well My wife loves her R7 and I do as well. Thanks for watching the video and for the comment.

Hey there my Friend ya I have destroyed some of the cheaper targets myself with my air rifles as well and I too tend to by ones made for 22lr as well. These targets are holding up really well so far and I have shot them with my higher powered srpinger air rifles as well and so far so good. I will be doing a review on my HW97 with the stainless steel barrel and synthetic stock hopefully soon but like you the sun is not up long anymore in my area either so trying to get the time to make a video when the light is good is tricky since I do not go to bed until around 5am and it get up around 1:30pm and it gets dark at 5:30pm. Ya I am a night owl for sure these days. Glad the hunting was good me I got skunked during turkey season could not get them to come in close enough to get a good shot on one. But that is how it goes sometimes also hunting them with a.25 cal pellet rifle so need to get them in close for a good head shot. Anyway always good to here from you my friend stay safe over there.

thanks for the comment and yes the Beeman R7 is a great air rifle and it is made in the same facory as the weihrauch air rifles are in germany. There is a great story as to how the Beeman air rifles came to be and why they are made there in germany as well.

Thanks for the comment and dang that is a pretty high price fo rthe mag strike as it si currently $14 U.S. dollars on amazon. At 21 poinds U.K. that equals $27.12 in american dollars which I agree with you i sway to high and crazy to me! Dang that just blows my mind! I do appreciate the sub and you watching the channel though so thansk for that.

Zero issues with the factory open sights thye work great and I do have a video of me shooting it with the factory sights as well on the channel you can check out. I actually prefer always having factory open sights on my air rifles as a back up if my scope ever fail so I I always sight them in and test them first before putting a scope on the rifle. as for the stock design the way they did the back part of the stock was so you could bag rest the back better if you choose to do that but does nto effect the performance of the air rifle at all. The hw30 is fastly becoming my favorite go to air rifle to shoot as it is so easy to cock and shoot and super accurate and a great small game or bird gun at 30yds or less. well worth the price. But I am also a huge fan of weihrauch air rifles and I own several. Anyway I do not think you will be disappointed in this air rifle but that is just my opinion so take it for what it may be worth. thanks for watching the video and the comment.

thanks for the great comment I can't speak for the magnum pro but I really enjoy shooting my bone collector it is a really nice air rifle and the multi shot mags are a bonus to be able to use in this air rifle.

appreciate the great comment and the fact that you actually get what the video is really about.

I always love it when someone says something on my videos trying to sound like they are smart but end up being an idiot. So first off, it is about the angle and the pressure you put on the ferro rod with the striker that will determine how much spark you get not wether I push the striker down the rod of or pull the rod back from the striker that is the pure physics of how the tool works duh? Second when I am actually trying to start a fire with a ferro rod which is when you want to actually pull the ferro rod back from the striker and aim it like you are saying. The reason for that is so you do not hit your tinder pile and knock it all over the place not because it makes more sparks. And last but not least if you had actually payed attention to the video you would know that I was not actually trying to light the pile of wood on fire in the fire pit in the first place because I actually said that in the video.

Imagine telling another man his video is cute and then trying to insult him.

@@ohshoot444 thanks for this great comment appreciate it!

Kamala, we all understand that you have a lot of free time on your hands, but trolling KZbin videos don’t seem to be a wise use of that spare time.

Hey my Friend ya I agree and I am always looking for good fire steels and little gadgets that are compact but help me when out in the woods. I love this Firs steel from Zippo it is amazing and works great. It is very well build as well I am very impressed with it.

So you are missing the actual point of this video and as I have told other just like you I am tired of trying to explain it to people like you. I did not down the product and I did actually say I like Umarex in the video and even showcased one of there other PCP air rifles in the video .And I really do not care what you or anyone else spends theremoney on but what I do care about is being honest and telling the truth about there products so people an make a better informed decision. But it is exactly people like you that Umarex targeted when they made this rifle the lazy or un informed people who prefer convenience over long term cost and are more then happy to piss there money down the toilet for convenience. And 50 shots for the average air gunner is not a lot of shots it is about 20 to 30min at most of target shooting with a PCP air rifle if that. But I sure do love all the excuses all of you come up with to justify your purchase of this gun. If you own it great have fun and enjoy it I could careless.

So you really are missing the point o fthe video and I am literally tired of explaining it to people anymore. If you like it buy it have a blast for those of us that actually get what I am saying we will be buying something else or already own something better. Like the Umarex Notos that I showed in this video.

Well my friend it is spelled Diablo on the freaking can and nobody cares how you really say it but you it seems.

@BravoBassin well glad you put "friend" in there else I'd have thought you were pissed. I have a can of the same pellets from a few years back and it's spelled diabolo. They must've changed it. Ahh alas, just trying to help and not give the Diablo any credit, ya know

@@williamjarvis3473 Ya I was not pissed just pointing out that its what is on the tin of pellets they probably did change it sometime from one to the other.

thanks fo rthe great comment appreciate it and you watching the channel as well.

Well things like that can happen and glad you were able to get it resolved. My main issue with this gun and about this gun and with umarex is that they are marking it as a budget friendly air rifle which it really is not. And that is what this video is actually about is the cost of this compaired to other air rifles on the market even umarexs own Notos which I showed in the video and is a great air rifle and very budget friendly and very accurate with nice power as well. Anyway thanks for you comment and imput and appriciate you watching the vidoe and the channel.

Well first I bought the gun and was one of the first to get it and review it and that is when I found it it had a few flaws so there was no way of knowing about those flaws until I had it in my hands and got to test it out. Second if you watched the video tthe end you would know that I did not actually recommend this gun I recommended and Weihrauch instead and over this gun. And I also said that I would not have bought it at all if I had known that the open sites were going to have issues and I was going to have to put a scope on it as I wanted to be able to shoot this with just the open sites which was another deal breaker for me as well when it comes to this gun. So no I woul dnot recommend it to anone until hey fix a few of the issues that I pointed out in the video. Thanks for watching the video and for your comment.

And what are his own problems, since I don't understand English, rather only through a translator. I am from Slovakia - Europe. If you can, write here specifically what problems does BM8 have? I was planning to buy it, but I'm backing out since it's the first generation. I was planning to buy it, but your questions convinced me not to. But I am planning to buy one more and that is this GAMO SWARM MAGNUM PRO GEN3I 35J 5.5MM AIRCRAFT. What do you think about it? They say that it is much better made and overall better built than the BM8. bm8 I liked how it looks to assemble the system, it looks very good, but I'd rather wait for the second generation and maybe even the 3rd.

@@RZ888888 Ok so the Bm8 is a very cool super accurate air rifle and my one and only grip with it is the fact that the open rear sight will not stay sughted in it eventually floats out of zero after about 18 or 20 shots. ANd this for me is a deal break becaus eit is suppose to be a survival rifle that you can break down and fold up. And I wanted to keep it set up that way and not have to put a scope on it. Because if you have to keep a scope on it then you are not going to be able to break it down and pack it. it is very solidly built and shoots very well and super accurate the tripper needs to be a little better as well i think with a few tweeks it could be a great air rifle. As far as the gamo swarm magnum pro I can't speak to that one as I do not own one nor have I shot one. What I can tell you is I do own the gamo swarm dx multi shot and I oen the gamo swarm bone collector and both of them are great air rifles so I would assume the magnum would be just as good. I do have videos up of both of mine on my channel if you so choose to go watch them. I also own a gamo varmit hunter extreme I have had for over 10yrs and it is still going strong. I will say stay away from the gamo CFX as that one has lots of issues as I own one o fthose as well and can attest to it being a very crappy air rifle that needs to go back to the drawing board. Anyway hope that helps. thanks for watchign teh channel and for the questions.

@ Thank you for your response, thank you, and how much does this BM8 rifle really weigh? We have kilograms, but I don't mind, I'll convert it to pounds using a translator. The website states 4.3 kg, which seems a bit much to me, even the gamon pro is lighter at 4.1 kg. And it's longer. And as for the bm8, I think that as you wrote, it will definitely be better to wait for generation 2. But who knows when it will come out. Maybe for the majority of people, the first generation is still fine. Then they won't need to upgrade. I don't know...

@@RZ888888 it weighs 7.15 pounds as I said it is a cool air rifle and it is very accurate but just need a better rear sight I am currently looking for a rear sight I can mount on it some how to fix this issues until then I am running a scope on it and with a scope on it at 30yds it is a tack driver. Now we just need to see how well it holds up over time. Me personally for the money I would save up and get a weihrauch HW50s in .177 or .22 I own it in both calibers and love it hands down weihrauch air rifles are my favorites to own and shoot and my Air arms tx200 but that is a pricey one. Anyway hope that helps.