Black Bunker BM8 Scope accuracy and long term review update!! what you should know!

[@ScotthollywoodOutdoors]

This is the first gun review video I have watch from you, and I must say I am highly impressed. Your knowledge and enthusiasm is awesome. I’m glad to see your channel really growing. Keep up the great work Jeff! 👍🏻

[@BravoBassin]

Thanks Scott I hope you guys are safe and doing well and I hope we can get together again down the road and do some more fishing or at least just get to hang out. looks like you have been taking some time off and enjoying life which is good to see.

[@gmanneod8085]

Thanks for sharing your views on the Black Bunker. I always appreciate your videos!

[@BravoBassin]

thanks for the great comment I appreciate it and I just always hope people enjoy them and they help people out.

[@EricNeal-g1k]

Excellent video. Great accuracy. Ordered 2 today. One for me, one for my son. Let’s be realistic, it’s not a survival rifle. It’s for killing varmits, small game and plinkng. Use loctite to tighten the screws and place a quality scope on it. Done. The trigger isn’t a Timney…duh. It’s a $200 plus air gun. Not a Weatherby. Let’s be realistic. People want more out of something than what they’re willing to pay. Could it use some improvements ? I’m sure. But that is going to raise the price. I can hear the moaning from here. As long as it’s sturdy and well built, I’m good. It’s not my home defense rifle, it’s for fun. Good grief.

[@BravoBassin]

great comment as well said and so far it has been doing fine other then the rear open sight floating after about 18 to 20 shots. I like shooting with open sights and that was one of the reasons I bougght this gun was to keep a scope off it and like I said in the video that was pretty much the only bummer for me. But it is a tack driver with a scope on it as you saw and I do like the gunand if they can just put some better fixed open sights on it then for me it is an all around winner. Still not a bad rifle for the price and it will definitely puch out some critters in the backyard that is for sure. I definitely have no problem using it for that and small game hunting. Hope you and your son have a blast with them.

[@EricNeal-g1k]

@@BravoBassinWhat scope are you using ?

[@BravoBassin]

@@EricNeal-g1k center point 3x9x40 here is a link:amzn.to/3DpPJcG Great budget scope and works great on spring air rifles and not very expensive at all.

[@hohenstaufen.1010]

Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@deborahmock9046]

Great review. I bought my son and son in law each one of these rifles, put red dots on them and definitely shoots accurate at 20 yards.

[@BravoBassin]

Ya it is a very accurate air rifle as you see I can get 1 inch MOA groups at 30yds with it oretty sure it will do well at 40yds as well. Not a bad 1st gen with a few tweaks I think they can reayy have a pretty great air rifle. thanks for the comment and watching the video.

[@jeromemausling6324]

Honest, thorough, detailed and fhe best reviews of the BM8 on the internet. Which Weirauch would you recommend that presents best value for money?

[@BravoBassin]

thanks for the comment and that is kinda a tough question about which weihrauch presents the best value for the money because currently own 5 weihrauchs and I think they are all worht what I payed for each. So with that being said I would say if you are on a tighter budget then I woudl go with the weihrauch HW50s in .177 or .22 I own on own one in both calibers and they are great. Both are super accurate for target shooting and both are great for taking small game like rabbits,squirrels, birds etc: And tey are well built and still light weight to carry. price on an HW50s is $421.99 at airguns of airizona currently. But if you have a little more cash to spend then I woudl go with the weihrauch HW77k a little more expensive at $663.99 at AOA and a little heavier but still hands down my favorite weihrauch I own. Super accurate love that it has iron sights as well as you can scope it up which the hw50s has iron sights as well which is a plus for both rifles in m opinion. But the HW77K being an underlever spring air rifle gives you even more accuracy do to it being and underlever air rifle. its is so accurate I mad a 30yds shot in light wind at a cowbird in the trees off my front porch threading the pellets through some limbs and dropped him like a sack of potato's wiht ease. I will also mention the HW30s as well although it does not ahve as much power as the other 2 the HW77K being the one with the most FPS the HW30s is a great little air rifle super accurate as well if you are on a smaller budget and it is capable of taking small game as well at 30yds or less as well I have one in .22 but the .177 willl give you a little more FPS but they both ave about the same FPE on inpack there is not that much difference when you crunch the numbers. and the HW30s is only $378.99 at AOA but for about $40 more yo can get the HW50s which is what I would do and did do when I first started buying my weihrauchs. I bought my HW77K first then my HW50s then I got the HW97K in stanless which is awsome as well then my HW30s and then my other HW50s. Sorry for the kind long response but I do hope that helps.

[@jeromemausling6324]

@BravoBassin wow, thanks for taking the time to write such a detailed response. I do appreciate that. I can see your passion for these guns shine through your answer. There are in fact three second hand Weirauchs for sale near me online. The HW30, HW50 and HW100. I'll hit them up and talk to the sellers about them. Once again, great videos and thanks for the reply

[@BravoBassin]

@@jeromemausling6324 Not a problem at all my goal is to just help people as best I can and just give thme the best information I can and then they can decide for themselves what they want to do or buy. Thanks again for the great comment ad for watching the channel.

[@rapalaron6348]

Hi Buddy! Great review as always👍 What i would do is find a better sight that will fit or make one fit and take away that plastic picatinny rail. Maybe you will get a Hw sight on it some way. The gun has enough accuracy and power to be a good survival rifle. Other option maybe a compact red dot. Thanks for showing. Cheers!

[@BravoBassin]

Hey there my friend I am already looking for other open sights to try and fit on there so you and I think a like on that for sure. So far have not found one that will work but I will figure something out eventually. hope you are doing well and staying safe my friend. thanks for the comment appreciate it.

[@alanvaughan4143]

Hi mate..excellent review… I was close to buying one of theses but decided against as I think any spares may be a problem…I’ve recently purchased vintage 2 x weihrauch air rifles ..1981..HW80 and 1983…HW77 ( both .22) .. HW80 was tuned by Venom and the 77 tuned by another high end tuner of the day…I paid £480 for the pair including original scopes..I’m a Weihrauch freak as I own 8 tuned springers plus a laminate stock 110 pcp ( and other brands) I can’t myself I think I’m beyond help 😂😂👍😆😆😆. Just subbed from the UK

[@BravoBassin]

Thanks for the great comment and I to love Weihrauch air rifle and currently own 5 myself lol! Ya this gun is cool in one way and disappointing in other ways. I have done several videos on it and even though it is very accurate at 30yds which its accuracy has been impressive I tell eveyone that they would be just better off buying a weihrauch HW50s for $100 more and they will be super happy over buyin goen of these so good desission to pass on it and buy those weihrauchs .thanks for watchign and the sub as well. Cheers from the USA

[@dclrepair3869]

I have a BM9 and it is great, how ever the long pull trigger it will loosen up about half way but does not have a dent there. But that being said when you get used to it and you will shoot it accordingly. if you add bi-pods it will stand up keeping the scope upright........Great air rifle tho....thanks for the Video very usefully info for people.

[@BravoBassin]

thanks for your comment and watching the channel appreciate it.

[@RolandoClark-nc1rt]

Every review, it seems everyone was resistant to using an optic,this is the first one with a nice optic to actually reach out down range,thanks,im still impressed with it,I think with just a few tweaks,it'll be fine especially with the current price points

[@BravoBassin]

Thanks for the comment and ya I always try and make both videos one without a scope and one with a scope. This air rifle is very accurate feels very solidly built and is fun to shoot. I hope that the few things I talk about that need to be fixed/tweaked with this gun I hope the company will do in the gen 2 model if we get one. Thanks for watching the channel I really appreciate it.

[@thumperkreck]

Maybe not the best idea, However Permatex makes a "puple bottle" of low stregth thread lock, that has helped with other adjustment "creeps" I've had. Great gun (own a .22 BM-8) as well and pleased with performance/price ratio. As well as 1/2 20 theads ready for a moderator. Cheers 🍻...

[@BravoBassin]

cool thanks for the tip on the thread lock I might try it and cool you own one as well. I do like the accuracy and build of the gun and with the scope on it definitely a tack driver at 30yds. the only bummer is that rear sight really been loking for a better replacement rear sight so we will see wahta come up wit in the end. thanks for your comment and watching the video.

[@joostvanpoppel]

Thanks for the great review! I, as a beginner, am looking for an airgun. I really like the BM8 and thinking about buying. I especially like the portability. I also hear you mentioning a "Weihrauch". Which Weihrauch would you recommend with a budget up to 400 euro's, about 425 dollars? A 50S? And another question: just wondering what's best to pick, a .177” or a .22” caliber? I'm going to use the airgun to shoot at targets/cards in my garden. 20 to 30 yards. Which caliber would you advise?

[@BravoBassin]

Well I would definitely recomment the weihrauch HW50s over the BM8 any day of the week first off. And you will be much happier and more satisfied as well with a weihrauch. So the weihrauch HW50s would be the way to go for sure and either .177cal or .22 cal are great as I own both HW50s in .177 and .22 cal. Me personally I like .22 the best with my air rifles but I know many that prefer the .177. Either caliber are great for target practice or hunting small game or even shooting competition so you really can't go wrong either way. I think the only real deciding factor is the .177 cal pellets are a little cheaper the .22. Also the HW50s is light weight and compact as well super accurate I have several videos on it in .177 and .22 cal on my channel you can watch. Andthe HW50s is so well built that you will be passing it down to your kids and grand kids for generations to come. So I hope that helps you out.

[@williamjarvis3473]

I was giving this gun a hard look and have decided to give it a pass. I'll save for a BSA or an hk77

[@BravoBassin]

Thanks for watching the video and yes you would be better off to save up for one of those other 2 hands down. Not that I don't like the concept of the BM8 but there are way better air rifles out there for sure like the ones you mentioned.

[@natesmith5393]

@BravoBassin Excellent follow up review & critique dude 👍🍻 I'll be honest man, I can't say I'd recommend a Weihrauch as the best first gun of this type; I simply don't feel the German guns are giving you the best value in terms of refinement, options, or warranty.... You may get lucky, but many people, here and abroad (HWs are cheaper in the UK it seems BTW) will tell you that Weihrauch guns don't give you tuned gun performance or refinement out of the box, often have QC issues (compression tube seams & cylinder galling to name a few), and don't have a great safety design IMO - it isn't ambidextrous that I know of nor is it resetable without re-cocking the gun IIRC. Even Jon of Keystone Airguns, who owns & likes Air Arms & many HWs will tell you about their QC issues and the fact they are essentially a "tuner's gun." Not saying that buying a Weihrauch is ever a BAD idea, but if you have to correct issues & tune the gun to get it where it should be for the price, I don't see that as a selling point... You do obviously get that famous trigger, good, traditional airgun open sights and likely a good barrel too; back in the day, word was HW made even better barrels than Lothar Walther... Conversely, for $100-150 less than a stock HW30/R-7, you can get a Cometa Galaxy 220 like mine from Jon in either .177 or .22 with a custom tune & now, Cometa's lifetime warranty (previously available in Europe but not here). You'll get a very nice gun in the same size & power class with a rugged synthetic stock; a much better entry level springer choice than an HW with a better warranty, good quality, and a nice Spanish barrel - plus you are supporting a nice guy with a small business 👍🍻 Even though I know you own and like HWs, I'd encourage you to check out Jon's business, and feel free to give him a call to talk shop; he's very friendly & knowledgeable in my experience 👍 Another affordable option is the Stoeger S3000-C; it is comparable to the Cometa 220 & has the same excellent style of ambidextrous, automatic safety that you can reset without opening the gun 👍 The Tac model even has an adjustable stock.. of course, these guns are Chinese, but offer a good potential value for not much money & come with a five year warranty now too... Just my thoughts, but I figured they wre worth sharing....😁🍻

[@BravoBassin]

thanks fo rthe great comment and imput back. And I do agree that if you have to do a bunch o fwork on a new air rifle before you can even shoot it then it is not worth it. I can say that al of my Weihrauchs and my wifes beeman R7 have been amazing super accurate and just performed top notch for me. I have owned several of them for many years and have done nothing to them except take them out of the box and shoot them. But funny you mention Cometa and Stoeger because I have been looking at both those brand sof air rifles for awhile and I have been on keystones air rifles sight a lot checking out the cometa's. I Have already been planning on getting a Cometa for awhile now as well as the Stoeger s4000 SO yes these are and have been on my airgun radar for awhile now. I am actually interested in the Cometa 220, 300usc and 400usc I like all 3 and just trying to decide on which one I want to try first I think it might be the 300usc. And if after getting the first one I really like it then I will for sure end up buying the other 2 as well. Thing is for me is I have no sponsors nor am I making a bunch of money from youtube either. Honestly I do not make crap from youtube because they hate anything gun or outdoor related so getting any o fmy videos fully monitized is pretty much in possible these days. The point being is I pay for everything out oof my own pocket and I do not have anyone sending me anything to test or try out so it takes me more time to get new stuff in to put on my channel due to the cost involved. So yes down the road you will see some cometa air rifles on the channel as well as a stoeger. Thanks again for watching the channel and your comments as I really do appreciate it.

[@JKDarson]

Its a good review thanks for that, but why are you repeat the same words in your comment al the time ? if some1 look at your review it will feel as you talk to a deaf or hard hearing person !!!!! Parroting Overkill

[@BravoBassin]

Well to answer you question it is to stop people from asking me stupid questions or making stupid comments about things that I cover in my videos and have to repeat several times so they might actually listen to what I am sayiing and covering in my videos. But even then I still get stupid comments so yes making videos for youtube is like talking to deaf people that are hard of hearing. So yes I have to repeat myself a lot. Because there are a lot lot of deaf dumb and stupid people on youtube.

[@JKDarson]

@@BravoBassin Why you concentrate and worry about stupid, deaf and hard hearing dudes ? Concentrate only gunners who apriciate your good advise and listen to true point of views in your uploaded reviews and disregard Idiots who listen with half an ear. Waste of your and my time. Go for it keep it short and to the point is my free advise. No hardfeelings M8, your my favorite airgun reviewer and want to look at it as short as i can. You may get more views if done so. Greetings from a true airgunner.

[@BravoBassin]

@@JKDarson Well I appreciate you watching the channel and I do try and make my videos as short as possible and try and get straight to the point as much as I can. But unfortunately I do have to deal with the stupid people as well and I can't please everyone nor am I trying to.

[@JKDarson]

@@BravoBassin If stupid people is what you want to concentrate on its your fine choice. No problem for me. Have a nice day.

[@BravoBassin]

@@JKDarson Why such hostility over how I make my videos? I said I have to deal wit them I do not focus on them why are you so upset and angry over how I make a video? I make videos the way I want to if yo do not like it then don't watch them. I am not making videos to cater to anyone including you my friend.

[@TheHaplessHobo]

I was going to buy this then I saw a guy on utube say he didn't get 300 shots out of a nitro piston before it failed. What is your experience with a nitro and is it a good purchase over a spring?.. I know the differences between them, I've been trying too find experience...

[@BravoBassin]

Well for me I will take a spring air rifle over a gas ram or nitro psiton air rifle anyday. first off the shot cycle with the spring air irfle is smoother then with th gas ram or nitro piston in my opinion. second replacing a spring if you would ever have to is way easier ans cheaper then replacing your nitro psiton. because when your nitro piston starts to leak and then jsut stops working all together your spring air rifle will still be shooting. And if you get a nice high end weihrauch, Beeman, Air arm, Diana etc: yo uwill never have to replace a spring and you will be passing those air rifles down to your kids and they will be passing them down to there kids. So ya for me springers arre the way to go over gas ram or nitro piston. As far as the black bunker goes I ahve had it for awhile and it has been doing well so far. Also for me my favorite air rifles to shoot are my weihrauchs and they are well worth every penny. when ever anybody ask me what air rifle I woudl recommend getting it is always a weihrauch first hands down. SO I hope that helps you a bit. thanks fo rthe question and for watching the channel.

[@TheHaplessHobo]

@@BravoBassin Great info, thanx

[@BravoBassin]

@@TheHaplessHobo thanks fo rthe comment hope it helps people out that are trying to decide if they want to buy this air rifle or not. I do have a couple other videos on this air rifle as well if you have not seen them yet.

[@geraldtillman5685]

Upon viewing this air gun I'd say why purchase this since it has a few flaws?

[@BravoBassin]

Well first I bought the gun and was one of the first to get it and review it and that is when I found it it had a few flaws so there was no way of knowing about those flaws until I had it in my hands and got to test it out. Second if you watched the video tthe end you would know that I did not actually recommend this gun I recommended and Weihrauch instead and over this gun. And I also said that I would not have bought it at all if I had known that the open sites were going to have issues and I was going to have to put a scope on it as I wanted to be able to shoot this with just the open sites which was another deal breaker for me as well when it comes to this gun. So no I woul dnot recommend it to anone until hey fix a few of the issues that I pointed out in the video. Thanks for watching the video and for your comment.

[@RZ888888]

And what are his own problems, since I don't understand English, rather only through a translator. I am from Slovakia - Europe. If you can, write here specifically what problems does BM8 have? I was planning to buy it, but I'm backing out since it's the first generation. I was planning to buy it, but your questions convinced me not to. But I am planning to buy one more and that is this GAMO SWARM MAGNUM PRO GEN3I 35J 5.5MM AIRCRAFT. What do you think about it? They say that it is much better made and overall better built than the BM8. bm8 I liked how it looks to assemble the system, it looks very good, but I'd rather wait for the second generation and maybe even the 3rd.

[@BravoBassin]

@@RZ888888 Ok so the Bm8 is a very cool super accurate air rifle and my one and only grip with it is the fact that the open rear sight will not stay sughted in it eventually floats out of zero after about 18 or 20 shots. ANd this for me is a deal break becaus eit is suppose to be a survival rifle that you can break down and fold up. And I wanted to keep it set up that way and not have to put a scope on it. Because if you have to keep a scope on it then you are not going to be able to break it down and pack it. it is very solidly built and shoots very well and super accurate the tripper needs to be a little better as well i think with a few tweeks it could be a great air rifle. As far as the gamo swarm magnum pro I can't speak to that one as I do not own one nor have I shot one. What I can tell you is I do own the gamo swarm dx multi shot and I oen the gamo swarm bone collector and both of them are great air rifles so I would assume the magnum would be just as good. I do have videos up of both of mine on my channel if you so choose to go watch them. I also own a gamo varmit hunter extreme I have had for over 10yrs and it is still going strong. I will say stay away from the gamo CFX as that one has lots of issues as I own one o fthose as well and can attest to it being a very crappy air rifle that needs to go back to the drawing board. Anyway hope that helps. thanks for watchign teh channel and for the questions.

[@RZ888888]

@ Thank you for your response, thank you, and how much does this BM8 rifle really weigh? We have kilograms, but I don't mind, I'll convert it to pounds using a translator. The website states 4.3 kg, which seems a bit much to me, even the gamon pro is lighter at 4.1 kg. And it's longer. And as for the bm8, I think that as you wrote, it will definitely be better to wait for generation 2. But who knows when it will come out. Maybe for the majority of people, the first generation is still fine. Then they won't need to upgrade. I don't know...

[@BravoBassin]

@@RZ888888 it weighs 7.15 pounds as I said it is a cool air rifle and it is very accurate but just need a better rear sight I am currently looking for a rear sight I can mount on it some how to fix this issues until then I am running a scope on it and with a scope on it at 30yds it is a tack driver. Now we just need to see how well it holds up over time. Me personally for the money I would save up and get a weihrauch HW50s in .177 or .22 I own it in both calibers and love it hands down weihrauch air rifles are my favorites to own and shoot and my Air arms tx200 but that is a pricey one. Anyway hope that helps.

[@stevenlapierre1742]

What table is that?

[@BravoBassin]

MTM PST-11 Predator Shooting Table, Portable Benchrest I like it because it is wide and I can set all my stuff on it when shooting. here is a link: amzn.to/4gKrwNF

[@Tom-jw1pe]

Did you show how you zero in the scope?

[@BravoBassin]

No I did not because there are a million videos out there on how to zero a scope So there really is no need for me to do that in the video.

[@Tom-jw1pe]

@@BravoBassin with those nice grouping it would’ve been nice to see. Thanks

[@BravoBassin]

@@Tom-jw1pe Well I appreciate the commnets and you watching the video. And I do apprecaite the fact that you would appreciate seeing that as well.

[@Tom-jw1pe]

You ever try 50 yards?

[@BravoBassin]

@@Tom-jw1pe I have not yet but I plan on it soon.

[@precisionshooters]

Amazon will not ship the gun to my address! Stupid!

[@BravoBassin]

well sorry to here that and ya it is stupid for sure.

[@joedokes8641]

Ordered mine through Airgun Depot , they have a thirty return policy , if you don't like it send it back .

[@BravoBassin]

@@joedokes8641 well that is a good thing to be able to do. Like I said inmy video it is a gen one and I feel they are on the right track for sure with a few improvments I think this can be a great air rifle. But as far as accuracy well you can see in the video how well and accurate it can shoot. thanks for watching and the comment appreciate it.