This is really simple, let me mansplain it to you: 1) Pulling is the king of all diesel motorsports and it always will be. Hooking to a heavy object and pulling it is what diesels were built for. Nothing outpulls a diesel in the ICE world. That being said, this is why there is a huge fan base at every county fair and larger national events. Pulling will be around until the government shuts it down. Mr. Patterson isn't much of a puller or else he would have never tried to oversimplify it like he did. Yes, everyone can participate, but few are consistent winners. Pulling also has well laid out class structures, and let's say 80% of competitors make a good hook. So the show is good and people will always pack the stands. In your local area everyone has a couple trucks/tractors they root for and probably know the owners, so it's a family affair for many rural folks who can get to see the trucks run at multiple locations. This gives pulling a die-hard following. 2) Diesel drag racing is Dumb with a capital D. Any kid with a turbo gas/alky car can make even the fastest trucks look slow and stupid. Diesel trucks were never built to accelerate fast and everyone knows it. The big flaw with the whole concept is attrition. Every event is FILLED with trucks that break or can't hook up or just flat out run like crap. Many people have thrown cubic dollars at race trucks but the weight and torque just kills the driveline (transmissions #1). The events are terrible because of this unreliability. Nobody is coming out to see diesel trucks race because by and large they are a crap show compared to really fast gas cars. I'm sorry for the guys who like to race but my advice is to stop burning down money doing something that ultimately is not interesting to most people. I wouldn't be surprised if the EPA nails these guys first because a quarter mile of smoke looks bad to a tree hugger when everything else runs clean. On the other hand, fair goers LOVE smoke, and pay to see it. It's a completely different audience. 3) Dyno events are only really interesting to diesel engine builders. Which is probably OK, because someday a spectator will likely get killed due to flying parts and lax safety rules, and a general demeanor of the competitors being "we worked sleepless nights for the last 5 days and we came here to just send it, so go or blow." Most of these are company-sponsored engines and I think most people ferret that out pretty fast. The explosions and the winners get KZbin hits and the rest is..."also ran". Therefore, to recap...diesel pulling is the only side of "the sport" that will last. You heard it here folks! 🤣

Don’t do ODSS or Epic pulling during UCC. Invite more UCC competitors. Get a good live stream set up.

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i work at a cat heavy equipment dealership. we just had 7 brand new D8 dozers come in to get "repackaged" to ship overseas, and guess what? they all had ZERO EMISSIONS! we have seen that on most military equipment that comes thru the shop too.

The EPA single handily is going to kill this whole industry, and in my opinion the end isn’t too far away. Hard to get excited about emissions compliant power, and hard to want to risk jail time and felonies. That combined with everything he mentioned and discussed is why it is dying out. It’s sad I have seen the industry in both phases of being born and dying out. It’s genuinely heartbreaking.

I got out of diesel performance (my own trucks) in general a few years ago. For me, just getting a little older changed my perspective. Sure, performance part prices didn’t help any, but I came the realization that it didn’t matter what was under hood, 500hp was pretty much the same. Each brand has their Achilles heel when upgrading. I mainly got away from it due to cost of maintenance and government overreach…. I had a 2016 Powerstroke, and when I hit the realization that I couldn’t delete it, I was done. The sounds, smells, and personalities of the diesel engine is all but gone.

...The EPA. /end of podcast.

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I’m on an All Day Diesel Podcast Marathon!!! Excellent..!! CHEERZ from Coast To Coast Diesel Enthusiasts LLC..!!

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I don't encourage bashing. With that said, as a customer it's been frustrating trying to get straight answers on transmission builder's since they aren't all equal. While 5k-12k might not be a lot to some people, it's a lot for most of us. I think there should be more transparency within the build community. Nobody wants to spend that much and not feel like a builder or build is completely trustworthy.

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More people with diesel need to try drag and drive

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This dude is Spot On, I say Cheers from Coast To Coast Diesel Enthusiasts, We Are Everywhere and We Need to Work as a Unified Circuit, The Diesel Community is generally Good People

Everything has a life cycle. We’re dealing with that currently in our pulling circuit. Hardly anybody is showing up, lots of tractors/trucks setting in shops with dust. The cost has gone from 10k to 50k and 25k to nearly 100k to run different classes respectively even at a local level, so it’s not surprising. Combine that with not many new people wanting to or financially able to get in to the hobby at this stage, we’re starting to realize how irrelevant it all is. I plan to ride it out to the end because I love pulling, but we’re on the back side of the bell curve. Drag racing I’m assuming will stay a little longer, but I don’t believe my kids will be pulling or racing 30 years from now. Just the world we live in and I’ll roll with whatever comes.

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It’s not to hard to figure out if you think for half a second not many has hundreds of thousands of dollars to throw at a race truck and event every year it’s not worth the money just for ego

As long as the democrats get votes, the regulations get worse. They give no fucks about motorsports

Diesel "performance" cut it's own throat. $175/hr shop rate for parts swappers that can't diagnose. Flat rate book time for shops that then cut corners. On top of it, pricing agreements for parts and components. Sorry, you take your customers for a ride and they find new hobbies. Have fun drag racing with empty stands.

Guy has some good points main reason for every problem is the Joe Biden economy most people can’t afford to by groceries make a house payment much less going to events. America absolutely needs to shit can Biden and shit can central banks

Is there a number of points allocated to trucks that are able to run and drive onto the trailer at the end of the event? And if not, why not?

Our government needs to change they delete their vehicles and nobody does shit but someone sells a few parts that is a vet that serves our country and protects us is getting this type of treatment it’s fucked up

What’s crazy is the government deletes all their vehicles

It's hard to get new blood into the sport when the government has taken away the tools and people to mod newer trucks. I've been in the game since 2000 and it's a totally different mindset on modding a diesel. Crazy wheels and pretty pipes under the hood seem to be all anyone wants to do. Social media plays a huge part with the 2 seconds of fame posting an engine explosion like Chris says. There was more comradery and information when there were forums to get on.

The real question is if the EPA has them meet the standards on NOs what will it do to power and economy.

I don't know how many people that watch this that have the money, know how or time to go through a truck to make it what you want or need. I just finished going through my 2006 ram 3500 in April this year. I started with a good clean driving truck in 2014. After I paid it off in 2020. I started repairing and replacing everything in the steering and suspension. Then I moved onto the fuel system. I replaced everything that fuel went through. I beefed up the head with studs, valve bridges, rocker arms, valve springs, push rods. Then I replaced the transmission, transfer case and driveshafts. Last I put a compound turbo system on it and custom tuning. All in, I spent 45k for truck and upgrades. I did all the R and R myself. The truck is great and everything I need and want. But how many young people have the place, time, knowledge and money to get to the finish line. I'm 62 now. When I was 25 to 50, I didn't have the money or time. I was busy raising kids and meeting career needs. This is my RV tow truck. I don't have any idea on how much it cost to build a weekend race truck.

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They used to stream the event some years ago and I would watch all weekend. But now they don't, and it sucks. I 100% agree with everything Chris says we need more unity between shops and events. There is no reason diesel performance couldn't be as big as hot rod, gas, circle track industry.

Great podcast Chris! Well said, mad respect!!

This was my first time to UCC. Chris is spot on when he states it needs more publicity and organization. As a spectator the dyno display was not able to be seen by the spectator. WTF On the other hand it has a great family feel. All the racers were super approachable and would spend time talking and explaining items on there truck. It reminds me of the old days of NHRA back in the 1980's. There is so much to see and experience, UCC needs more exposure to the general public. Keep doing what you do! Chris Patterson is a super person.

Dude said it’s a $100k event I don’t understand why people aren’t showing up 😂

I like this topic! Collaboration creates great things! King of the street was a fun event to compete in and I feel like the scoring worked well for my little street truck.

Sounds like he's got a legitimate gripe. Respect for his brutal honesty.

Chris is spot on about UCC being a sideshow. The cut- throat of the diesel performance industry is what has pushed my company away. Keep fighting the good fight Chris. Great podcast

My 5.4 3v loves it.

Every car and truck in our yard, from the Kenworths to the Toyota Corolla run Rotella in them. We don't run anything else. Always have had great performance from Rotella, T4 and T6.

Roofing company here 11 6.7 our 08 6.7 just passed 340k and needed a head gasket do to over heat(thermostat 😊and a dumb driver) The only mods are deleted emissions....and few banks upgrade Love my Cummings

I use Rotella T6 multi-vehicle 5W-30 in my 2020 colorado ZR2 3.6 L V6 gas engine 😊

All this emission stuff since it being federal. I believe the feds should pay half the bill on any emission related bill. I bet they would send straight pipes and tunes in a week lol😂

I'm so glad I found Socal Diesel. I was there today picking up parts for my LMM. And a big shout out to Gabe! He has helped tremendously, giving me the straight information.

First of all. I love this podcast. I don’t listen to other podcasts so thanks. I sold my ‘97 and regretted it ever since. I’m going back to a Cummins diesel for a truck camper. The thing that is great about this episode is that most info is failures related to putting more power on the truck. For those of us that want a reliable stock truck, this is really helpful. I can buy a 5th gen but may go 4th gen. Thank YOU!

I just bought a 6.0 for the chassis and drivetrain. Im putting a dentside cab on it. I was told the truck sat 7 years because it wouldn't start. I hooked a jump pack, and it fired tight up. I can't believe it didn't start. Make sure you have a qualified repair center work on your vehicle. I'd like to see Nic Roethlisberger on your podcast. He has a series on his channel where he put a dentside body on a 6.0 chassis.

Is there a network like this for 6.0 power strokes?

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Not a single interruption of BS from the AssHo KZbin commercial Dictators? Awesome!! This was a very peaceful and relaxing podcast to enjoy on my commute home, Excellent Job Pat..!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..!!

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I have heard shops need to put OEM back in with stock components. How do they deal with emissions and legality of putting an entire aftermarket engine in?