This Canucks’ team is broken in so many ways, and that brokenness may very well drag the Canucks out of a playoff spot before too long.

The conflict is a distraction for Elias. And he probably delayed signing because of it. I'd guess Miller has been bullying Elias, getting under his skin because Petey is a swedish player, where we don't have your silly gentleman fights. Thus EP40 has not wasted his time praticing that boring childs play. And Tocchet has sided with Miller, being punishing to Petey as a coach. Money doesn't matter to Petey, that's the business leeches, and if you don't have your team with you nobody can shine. Hope Petey gets out of there someway. So pissed.

Maybe the Canucks need to go for someone who Hughes can feel confident in playing with if there's no one out there...once they find that right fit, Hronek can be that anchor on the second pairing. When Hughes was ejected with that match penalty, Hronek stepped up and actually played really well. Hard to say though now when he gets back and how fast he will regain his play to where it was before. It'll be a nerve racking few weeks to watch once he gets back and will be dreading all these trolls taking a swipe at the guy if he's slow to return to game shape. 😬 Just reading the comments about Joshua makes me feel ashamed to be here in Vancouver. I'm glad that Dakota is improving and not being a liability on the ice.

When a team isn't winning and a power play isn't clicking, nobody looks great. Yes, both our 1 & 2 centers are underperforming. No, they don't mix well as pals. Yes, the Vancouver market and media are ravenous rumor mongers. No, the management does not let information out. Add that up and multiply it by the heightened expectations and there you go. I think there may be a little disagreement between players, but I don't think that adds up to have a serious effect on their will to win. I think it's more likely that you have both players who are going through things that may be of a highly personal nature that may even have an effect on their value as players. It could be physical or mental. But I don't think you can fry the bacon yet. There's barely any sizzle, and the pan's certainly not hot enough to brown anything.

please do a long ten hour or 24 hour a thon on the couch

1.Hughes already 2. Bure 3. Henrik 4. Daniel 5. Naslund

Let me know your guys thoughts about this. petey started struggling around the time there were contract talks. could it be that miller has been taking it out on petey for taking an unfriendly contract. Petey plays bad with a big contract, Miller Gets mad at Petey, Petey cant handle miller being a dick and continues to play bad. repeat. Remember petey played good when miller left. not easy watching a guy play worse than you and make 3.6 million more. not easy to play good while someone contantly calls you out on mistakes. i dont think this is happening if peteys making 9 million.

Just because you pay someone a star's salary, doesn't make them a star.

I'm sorry, these guys are paid LITERALLY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS!!!, and have played this game A DECADE, at least, and a COUPLE OF DECADES for some... It should not be UP TO THE COACH to "get them ready to play". Stop making excuses for your players, Tocchet. They SHOULD KNOW what this game is about by now, and they SHOULD BE responsible enough, with MILLIONS of $$$$$$ in paycheques suggesting YOU PLAYERS should be able to DO YOUR OWN WORK! It's just ridiculous to say, at those salaries, that and excuse like, "I just didn't have it tonight", should be acceptable.

Both goals before OT were directly on Myers; he left his check to double team a player with his D-partner , and Keller was left wide open for the feed and goal, then he takes a COMPLETELY pointless, useless, bone-headed crosscheck penalty (Myers...? WTF do you think your GIANT shoulders were made for?!?!? Why can't you EVER use them? Uhm... INSTEAD of crosschecking everyone near you? HOW MANY YEARS have you been playing this game?????? )... The OT G was on Miller, who PUSHED at the end of a shift, instead of keeping possession and changing (the 2nd time he did that to turn over the puck in that OT session!! Just a AMATUER MOVE, Miller... HOW LONG have you been playing this game?) F' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SIMPLE, SIMPLE hockey 101 ... No wonder the coach is so frustrated.

1st of all, I’m with you guys. Get over it or send back the checks. You’re not in middle school. But secondly, I feel like K’Andre Miller from New York is a PERFECT fit for what we need. I feel like more people need to be pushing this idea. For the right price he can be had out of New York and would be a perfect partner for Willander for years to come. Hughes - Hronek Miller - Willander That’s a top 4 you can build around for years.

I am SO SICK of TYLER MYERS being on this team... WHY IN HELL did they re-sign him? AND AT A RIDICULOUS PRICE, when he couldn't make most team's BOTTOM PAIRING?!?!? This managment group was looking SO GOOD, then: re-sign a guy who has proven over 5 YEARS that he's A CRAPPY D-MAN ("BUT he had one decent playoffs, so THAT'S ALL FORGOTTEN!!!"), at 3 MILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?, and give a HART TROPHY calibre contract to a player who seems disinterested in playing for 1/2 the time he's thinking to himself, "I can make it JUST BECAUSE my name is Elias Pettersson, and that means I don't have to WORK MY BUTT OFF ALL THE TIME to stay in the league"... AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH !!!!!!! So much for all the work this management regime was building on; we now have TWO albatrosses hanging around the neck of this roster... I feel SO SORRY for Hughes and Demko, LEGITIMATE star players, for having to be stuck with this roster. (And we're not even mentioning the Desharnais signing... ugh)

Bring tony stecher back

Trading Petterson is an awesome idea.. he’s got no game no passion . I think he’d be better at girls volleyball… he plays like the game should be give to him … I’d rather get 3 assets for him an wait for a yr than pay 11.6 million dollars for a sissy

There is obviously something not right with this player anymore. This is by far the best management team the Canucks have ever had from top to bottom, Whatever they decide to do I trust them to make the right moves for this organization!

We just have to accept that wherever Pettersson goes, he's going to be AMAZING! But it won't be in Vancouver. He and Miller just can't play together.

I am SO F'ING SICK of TYLER MYERS being on this team... WHY IN HELL did they re-sign him? AND AT A RIDICULOUS PRICE, when he couldn't make most team's BOTTOM PAIRING?!?!? This managment group was looking SO GOOD, then: re-sign a guy who has proven over 5 YEARS that he's A CRAPPY D-MAN ("BUT he had one decent playoffs, so THAT'S ALL FORGOTTEN!!!"), at 3 MILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?, and give a HART TROPHY calibre contract to a player who seems disinterested in playing for 1/2 the time he's thinking to himself, "I can make it JUST BECAUSE my name is Elias Pettersson, and that means I don't have to WORK MY BUTT OFF ALL THE TIME to stay in the league"... AAARRRGGGGHHHHHH !!!!!!! So much for all the work this management regime was building on; we now have TWO albatrosses hanging around the neck of this roster... I feel SO SORRY for Hughes and Demko, LEGITIMATE star players, for having to be stuck with this roster. (And we're not even mentioning the Desharnais signing... ugh)

I don't want to see Petey moved, but, this was the worst decision I've seen the new regime make: 5th highest paid player in the NHL ???? That is rarified air, for Hart Trophy players; is Pettersson a Hart Trophy player? No, no, and no. He doesn't look like he ever would be, when compared to the best players in the NHL ahead of him now, let alone the potential younger players behind him coming up. WHY did they do this? The only reason I can see, is his agent threatened for him to walk, as per Calgary's Tkachuk, et al. But now we eat it, for a long long time, OR, yeah, Vancouver are FORCED to move him, due to their own decision to put themselves behind this 8-Ball... Such a strange decision by this management group, after all that great salary moves they've made so far.

Backs up the 'ol " The best offence is a good defence" line that my coach always said.

I remember seeing Garlands reaction when the entire arena chanted his name last season. He looked like he was going to cry because it's probably something he's dreamed of his entire life. We need more of this, it gives the players every reason to play hard in front of the home crowd.

So was signing louis errickson

It’s actually the best idea I’ve ever heard

Actually, after watching that game, I can assure you that Casey Mittelstadt DOES suck.

Good subject with some great clarification . Thankyou .

Petey isn’t going anywhere

Preach brother preach 💯

is it coincidence how petey started producing when miller was gone then regressed after he came back? pettersson is a big baby. hes immature and trade him.

Management need to separate themselves from the players who they would like to have from the players who we should have...period.

The trade clause in his 1st year, wasn't agreed on from both sides, it's part of the collective bargaining agreement doesn’t allow it. A player can only ask for an NMC after they’ve played in the NHL for seven seasons, or have turned 27. In either case, a player without a contract at that age or with that service time is an unrestricted free agent.

Petey Hoglander Desharnais Byram Tuch Thompson would be acceptable and near cap compliant (buff retains 1.1+ on byram)

Canucks send 3 players to the corner to dig out the puck. Too many. If you win the puck, who does it go to.

Forget about the last game.Stupid loss. Think about the next game.

A team is an organism that is interconnected with all its parts. One part disfunctioning will affect all parts affecting other players

The Canucks cant build around a player like Petterson. Inconsistent and not tough enough.

petey gets paid 7 mill bridge deal then quits, his contract is almost up and he tries again....gets paid 11.6 and quits again. you see a pattern forming? forget broken byram get tuch if your taking 13 points couzins. im all for trading petey he hates the media here and seeks greener pastures.

you trade either of them if you can get the other two Hughes brothers from NJ!!!

so why dont we talk about Boeser hes not doing shit doesnt score doesnt hit doesnt back check cant skate very fast wants over 8 mil for what a20 goal season lmfao

well theres alot of really stupid fans but it natural because alot canuck fans are idiots and cry to much plus most have no idea on how to build or construct a team

Petterson, Hoglander for Cozens, Byram. Lol!...while you still can.

I think Elias is not the player he could and even should be in Vancouve, and this for a number of reasons. Miller and Elias is no super combo, not on the ice and not off the ice. Tocchet with his no risk, dump the puck, and stay in front of the net Elias, is surely not bringing out the full potential of the player. Quinn, terrific Quinn, limits Elias game especially on the PP. Quinn and Miller is a fit. Quoin and Elias is not. Well of the ice maybe but on the ice not really. The conclusion would be that a new team for Elias, under the right circumstances, could be a homerun on three different fronts - Vancouvers, Elias and his new team.

What’s with the hate on for desarnais? He controls the front of the net and plays well defensively. So what if he lacks offensive upside? He helps us get control of the puck. He makes a first pass. He hits, he fights. He’s a good roll player

I'd be fine with a trading Pettersson for someone like Owen Power and a couple forwards like Tuch and Cozens

Canucks have under $2M cap space and re-signed Garland, Joshua, Hronek and Peterson to raises. Where TF are Canucks going to get the cap space to bring in a “top centre” and “top defencemen” that everyone keeps saying they need. Hogs is only 1.1M this year. Everyone needs to stop dreaming and the Canucks will roll with what they’ve got. Best they can do is add some depth players and that’s it, unless you dump a major piece or put Hronek on LTIR for the rest of the season.

So, according to your logic, you keep the cancer that keeps metastasizing, in the room? Bold strategy cotton. Pettersson is a highly valued player and Cozens is a pretty good player on a bad team. Miller centers the first line and Cozens centers the second. The kid had 68 points a 22/23. Byram immediately becomes our number two, after Hughes and likely buys time till Hronek gets back. You can then flip Hoglander and whatever else to Pittsburgh for Pettersson. If you're worried Buffalo isn't paying enough, you ask for a first or second that we can keep or flip for another winger.

I strongly disagree. Petterson is one of the top 3 players in the NHL, yet he does not play anywhere near the "franchise player" level. The other facts are that his play and points have been trending down while his salary is trending up, and his no-trade clause gets locked in this summer. Whether we want to face the fact or not, Petterson's salary over the duration of the contract will undermine the team's ability to dress a competitive and well-balanced team going well into the future. Canuck fans want a Stanley Cup, or at least the consistent compete that gives the team a chance to try and win one. The question is whether Petterson or Miller will get you there. I think last year's playoff performance answered that question.

Petterson is more of a Toni Tanti than a Cam Neely!

Bitcoin all time high, Trudeau almost done, great day regardless

B bye

Miller 3 points in 2 games, Pettersson 0 points in 2 games. Pettersson zero shots in Florida game, finally got a weak shot on Boston in the 2nd period. Being down 3-2 against the Blues going into the 3rd period and the team not getting a shot until the 10 min mark of the 3rd period, where is the $11.6M player to step up in a situation like that, just showing up to play in the last 10 mins of a 60 mins game isn't acceptable. Tocchet comment after Bruins game and saying you can't play 1 good game and then 2 bad, is definitely a shot at Pettersson for getting points in the Blues game, and then getting 0 points in the last 2 games. The slow starts are still a problem with these guys, they were outshot 16-4 in the 1st. They were outshot 17-2 against the Blue Jackets in the 1st not too long ago, they were outshot by the Oilers most of the playoffs, same crap. Bruce Boudreau when he was coaching, the slow starts were happening all the time under him, Bruce mentioned how they were outshot 10-1 in the first period after a game, and he doesn't understand why they're having the slow starts then either. It's year after year of the same crap with these guys, moves need to happen to these core guys, Pettersson is one of them and Boeser is another, it's time to move on from them.