I got the orion 2 hotas for christmas and although I haven't tried it yet (feels great though) I would comment that the instructions they have on their website are not very good. I assembled the throttle and stick and they seem to work fine but according to the instructions I'm missing a piece with a cryptic name like JT-22. Watching your video I'm pretty sure this piece only comes with a more premium grip because mine looks the same as yours but the instructions tries to cover the assembly of multiple products with one set of instructions and doesn't go into the detail you would want. The steps also have broken english translation and in one case one of the steps was just some chinese characters with no explanation at all. This isn't a deal breaker or anything but I would suggest being very careful as you assemble the product and Winwing could do a better job with instructions.
@USAF-AMMO-461X02 ай бұрын
Just got my combo from the sale…$390 out the door…HOTAS COMBO Navy Ace f-18 throttle and f-16 with skater to my door 5 days from ordering…..coming from 7 years With Warthog Hotas…the stick blew me away, difference is amazing..throttle is ok but I like the weight of the warthog better
@DenialDan2 ай бұрын
That's awesome!
@ziadlemhamdi63312 ай бұрын
is this hotas compatible with wwar thunder simulator battles
@DenialDan2 ай бұрын
I haven't personally tried it but yes, you will have to switch the device setting to split the buttons to read as 4 devices in order for functionality to work with the buttons. If i were you i'd do some googling just to double check but you should be okay.
@prozerbak2 ай бұрын
For review please use proper light, if someone watching review is not only for listening what u have to say but also properly see the product
@DenialDan2 ай бұрын
I felt visual coverage of all features of product was adequate but duly noted. This is the first review video I have done. Thanks for feedback!
@just_a_gamer2132 ай бұрын
5:22 those rudder padels look crusty!
@DenialDan2 ай бұрын
Shh....I be snackin
@Smood472 ай бұрын
Any thoughts on this vs constellation alpha prime/mongoose or modern combat grip ultimate ?
@DenialDan2 ай бұрын
At the timeI bought the winwing because the price was better as a full setup (HOTAS). I wanted a virpil but it was mor expensive and VKB hadn't developed any HOTAS that was fight jet styled. Im sure either of the two are good quality sticks. There are more competitors in the game now too as MOZA (more racing sim company) started developing sticks.
@PCPAyLOAD3 ай бұрын
Nice thing about that suction cup design is that you can easily swap then out for better ones from your local hardware store for under $10.
@DenialDan3 ай бұрын
hadn't thought about that, that's a good point
@rodrigolara3 ай бұрын
I'm really interested in this set. But will I have to necessarily own a rudder pedal set to use it or is there a way to map rudder controls in a good way with this set?
@DenialDan3 ай бұрын
you could do a number of things. one would be to get their z-axis module to give the stick a twist axis (but cost little over half what some cheap rudder pedals cost so might as well just get pedals at that point) two could be binding one of the sliders on the base (would be janky but would work) three could be just using arrow keys as a rudder (little more jank as it would be full rudder input or no input so no in-between) four would be to buy a cheap set of rudder pedals Just depends on what you're willing to deal with, I personally prefer having pedals but there's options
@rodrigolara3 ай бұрын
@@DenialDan precious infos here! Using the analog stick of the throttle would be an option too?
@DenialDan3 ай бұрын
@@rodrigolara idk if the dials would work but the small silver levers should since they can control axis
@CaptainAarav4 ай бұрын
Yummmmmmm❤
@CaptainAarav4 ай бұрын
Yummmmm❤
@StreagleEagle5 ай бұрын
How long did it take for you to get them delivered?
@DenialDan5 ай бұрын
Honeslt dont remember. Might've been couple days. Probably depends on where to buy them from too.
@Jasonrcsd6 ай бұрын
How do you keep them from moving?
@DenialDan6 ай бұрын
For me they are butted up against the wall. If you dont have a wall to use then I'd used some velcro (hard floors) or some kind of carpet spikes (carpet floors) and stick them to the bottom with some 3M double side tape or something.
@yamahayz2286 ай бұрын
did you ever get a desk mount if so which one
@DenialDan6 ай бұрын
fox mounts
@yamahayz2286 ай бұрын
@@DenialDan thank you. How have you been enjoying them/ how’s the build quality
@yamahayz2286 ай бұрын
@@DenialDanalso do you still use this hotas?
@DenialDan6 ай бұрын
@@yamahayz228 build quality was pretty good. i did have a piece break and gave feedback to the company and they reinforced it on all of the new ones they're selling.
@DenialDan6 ай бұрын
@@yamahayz228 as for using it, it is the only one hotas I do use. I really like it
@jota5aviaton2706 ай бұрын
Is it compatible with Xbox?
@DenialDan6 ай бұрын
unfortunately I do not know the answer to this but I would assume with complexity of the hard ware I would assume probably not. Would be a lot of buttons for console games to support
@coogoog7 ай бұрын
Well done, informative, everything i needed to make the right decision. Thanks 👍
@mickelvin45057 ай бұрын
thanks for the info
@lennypilot34608 ай бұрын
Plastique toy
@Luis-TioZaoDoFS9 ай бұрын
I have this one! What is the best sensitivity setting for it in MSFS 2020?
@DenialDan9 ай бұрын
I haven't got a clue, I usually just leave the tension on the lowest setting and add a slight curve to the axis so I don't accidentally kick the rudder too much initially
@JETMATE111 ай бұрын
On my orion 2 throttel base the RX Axis doesn't work😢 please help
@DenialDan11 ай бұрын
what do you mean stopped working?
@JETMATE110 ай бұрын
@@DenialDan It simply doesn't work anymore😕
@DenialDan10 ай бұрын
@JETMATE1 first I'd check the plugs and that they are in fully. Next I'd change which usb port you're plugged into. Then I'd go into their sim app and calibrate the lever.
@jamarsac20 күн бұрын
@@DenialDan I have the same problem. The left throttle works, and all the buttons work but the RX right throttle is not working.
@DenialDan20 күн бұрын
@@jamarsac depending on the game might have to change setting tosplitthe throttle into multiple devices. some games cant read the number of actiions on single device. might try that (i.e. war thunder might have that issue) think its a game coding thing or something
@sabot8075 Жыл бұрын
Aslo caveat with the screws.... loosely seat all of them, then like tuning a drum tension them evenly on...as you tighten one youll feel the other will be looser. The screw threading is super precise so very easy to cross thread
@Vittalb461 Жыл бұрын
Some of the stiffest rudder pedals I have ever used.
@blacknass1943 Жыл бұрын
best setup hardware you can get for jet sim :D and my choice ! MF Crosswind footpedals and wing wing hotas +stick prefeckt setting :D
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
imlooking forward to winwings release of their own rudder pedals
@MASTERSLY5 Жыл бұрын
I was debating this or the TM TPR
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
if you have the money for the TPR then you might go with those, better quality from what i understand but if you want cheapest thing to get the job done then the logitech are decent
@Nightsd01 Жыл бұрын
The Winwing Orion absolutely brilliant. I’ve had so many different kinds of HOTAS for DCS and none of them even come close. The build quality and functionality is truly genius.
@FullMetal-Tech Жыл бұрын
I have the thrustmaster pedals, they SUCK BIG TIME, to close together, like to stick,, do not glide and centering pedals is near impossible.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
I have the Winwing Hotas and am pretty happy with it so when they release their skywaler rudder pedals I will probably be buying those.
@Hoekstes Жыл бұрын
Mine broke (my pc just started saying usb device not recognised). Money down the drain for an overpriced paper weight.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
There's a few different things you can try to get them to register. There's a few forums talking about different things that worked for different people. You might start there
@Hoekstes Жыл бұрын
@@DenialDan Been through all the forums and tried all the suggested fixes. Other people with same problem ended up replacing the circuit board with arduino that run mmjoy. I’m not a programmer / electrical engineer.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
@@Hoekstes That's no good :( I'm planning on getting the winwing rudder pedals when they decide to release them
@RabbitHoleAdventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video!
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ludwig8334 Жыл бұрын
how well would these work with other flight sims/games?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
As long as the games settings allow you to tune your axis curve if not might be a little sensative, but pretty good. Some games might require you to change a setting the sim app to make the device read as 4 seperate devices in order to get all of the buttons to function (I think IL-2 is that way)
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
I've used it in War Thunder, Arma 3, DCS and IL-2
@tastemakerguidie Жыл бұрын
imagery ALL deleted illustrations drenched and the process they are mocking without ; I could go back to the shelf
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
huh?
@tastemakerguidie Жыл бұрын
drilling shit
@tastemakerguidie Жыл бұрын
yheurah
@rfcdgaf Жыл бұрын
Those suction cups look cheap AF for a $400 USD hotas ... so out of place
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
They aren't awful at first but if you move it a bunch they wear out pretty quick. I got some mounts now though
@MosoKaiser5 ай бұрын
Probably best considered just a freebie bonus, though. A HOTAS set like this really isn't ideal for tabletop use anyway, being pretty tall; best used with desk mounts that place them much more ergonomically.
@MaurizioArmi Жыл бұрын
It's fantastic! Perfect music and editing. Wow
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@HaileyIshii89 Жыл бұрын
i had thrustmaster ones and honestly i didnt like them so i am getting these since my thrustmaster one broke somehow.
@nilstetzlaff9872 Жыл бұрын
I was not sure to get the orion 2 but your video brought me over the edge, i was looking up a lot of videos on the orion 2, by far yours was the most informative. heads up. great video, keep it up
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
thanks man! I hope you enjoy yours as much as I have enjoyed mine
@jaxgrier9935 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video smooth edits this made my decision of what hotas to get way easier
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
glad I could help!
@HouseofMyrrh Жыл бұрын
As for the noise... I was thinking of possibly using Silicone Gel. But, then I have a house full of cats which will result in dust bunny contamination. :) The only other thing I could think of is find some really thin felt and, after testing, glue it appropriately to keep it in place between the sliding pieces. Right now I am stuck with a twist stick rubber, so I can't try this myself.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
that is an idea, I appreciate the idea
@pepeiglesias9603 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you know if I can use the Logitech rudder pedals with the Hub of Honeycomb in the Xbox Series S?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
I have no personal experience so would be hard for me to say but as far as I am aware there isnt any support for consoles but I'd look into it before making a purchase. From my brief search the rudder axis might work but the toe brakes might not.
@WilsonBradleyTheOfficial Жыл бұрын
Thanks, but you didn't explain what the included velcro strips were for/how to use.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
if it came with Velcro strips i imagine they're to place on the bottom of the pedals and the floor to prevent slipping? I don't remember having any?
@PrintFlex.123 Жыл бұрын
Do they connect to Xbox
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
Not by themselves based on what I've read. I think you have to use it though their joystick in order for it to work with console. I don't have a console so I couldn't confirm for you but hopefully that's something for you to base your next research steps. Thanks!
@arose001 Жыл бұрын
You did not pay 399.00
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
At the time of making the video the price was $399 plus the shipping. I think it has sense changed because that was nearly a year ago
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
The max version is $500
@SthrnDrt Жыл бұрын
"These are not my favorite but I have never used any others"...🤔
@vectieba Жыл бұрын
When assembling the throttle, do not screw in the first screw completely, do it about half way then do the second screw. When both are in about half way you can start tightening both screws. This will prevent cross threading the screws.
@faelwolf117710 ай бұрын
You're talking about leaving a big of play to help with alignment, not cross threading. Very good idea. When starting a screw, turn it backwards with slight pressure until you feel/hear a slight click. You have then found the thread lead, and lined up the screw thread with the threaded hole, and you won't cross thread. Old machinist's trick. And yeah, I'm an old machinist! lol
@federicoalessandri8941 Жыл бұрын
Do they work with windows 11? As they said they are compatible with windows 7,8 and 10
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
I don't have any personal experience as I have stayed on windows 10 however a quick reddit search and people have NOT had any issues with the rudder pedals working with windows 11
@federicoalessandri8941 Жыл бұрын
@@DenialDan Thanks
@harksgaming7455 Жыл бұрын
Have you had any problems with it so far?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
I had a plastic piece break (only an issue with the fingerlift) but they have added a support to the weak area. If you google "winwing lever break" should be the first image is what broke. Just a weak spot but again I gave them feed back and they added support to the weak spot.other than that no the HOTAS has been great
@harksgaming7455 Жыл бұрын
@@DenialDan Thanks for your response! I'm thinking between Virpil and WinWing right now. Really hope Virpil makes some full hydraulic motion, force feedback and heated grips! This would be awesome, aswell with real life replicas.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
@harksgaming7455 yeah that'd be pretty cool! I was bouncing back and fourth I just settled on price. I know some prices changed around but they just released the f15 throttle so might be able to get the bundle cheapest now
@dreaux88 Жыл бұрын
Please raise audio
@TheProtector737 Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for the review! What do you think now after 10 months of buy?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
10 months later I still enjoy the hotas. I would be careful about the finger lift though. I bought one and had been using it but the black plastic piece that attaches to the metal grip broke on me. I informed winwing of the issue as it was a common one and they have added some support to that area. Hotas still running strong and I'm 100% happy with my purchase and will like continue to support the company by buying their product in the future
@TheProtector737 Жыл бұрын
@@DenialDan Thanks for the info! So you replaced the fingerlift right?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
@TheProtector737 not the fingerlift but rather the piece the fingerlift mounts to. The new one had the improvement on it. I did fill in the spaces with epoxy on my one that didn't break just so I didn't have to deal with it again. I would imagine relatively new hotas would come with the fixed version. If you want pictures join my discord channel and I can send you the pictures
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
@@TheProtector737 discord.gg/7J4vdAw6
@TheProtector737 Жыл бұрын
@@DenialDan Thanks. I'll do that.
@blakedemoff5505 Жыл бұрын
Can i use these with the xbox series x?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
Based on what I know at the moment is I don't think they are. Doesn't list compatibility on their website so I would doubt they are. Thrustmaster has the win on that one I beleive. I'd double check that though before purchasing
@blakedemoff5505 Жыл бұрын
@@DenialDan thanks!
@magniankh Жыл бұрын
Short and to the point for normal people, thank you!
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
you're welcome! I personally hate when people ramble on and on about things that aren't related
@stufbaby Жыл бұрын
$235 right meow! thanks for the review.
@juanete69 Жыл бұрын
Hello. In the same price range... What should I buy: Virpil, VBK or Winwing?
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
I guess it depends. If you're wanting a HOTAS VKB doesn't offer a actual HOTAS throttle just some regular levers so it it would be between a Virpil and WinWing. Virpil is gonna run $600 USD for both stick and throttle (not sure if shipping is included in that) vs WinWing being $400 for an Orion 2 ($470 with shipping all said and done). So it really just depends on hw to want your buttons and levers to be laid out. I personally went with the winwing because it was the cheaper of the 2 and had more buttons and dials and such but like I said just depends on how you want your ergonomics
@liam8060 Жыл бұрын
How long did it take deliver? I just bought mine and I was wondering how long it would take to get here sense it doesn’t say.
@DenialDan Жыл бұрын
About a week. Came in 4 seperate packages. First came on day 4 and the other three came around day 7. Will require signature upon delivery so if they miss you you can always swing by the fed ex facility to pick it up which is what I did