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@happycricket123
@happycricket123 2 сағат бұрын
What years are your evoras?
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Сағат бұрын
2011 and 2012, remember to like and subscribe!
@user-kd6gr6hi5c
@user-kd6gr6hi5c 9 күн бұрын
Good job my man as an owner should do in a beauty. Once you get the hang of that beauty you’ll be swinging corners in mountains like butter
@superdoge7567
@superdoge7567 9 күн бұрын
I got my dream car at 17 I am still 17 it was an 07 3v gt mustang California special my dad spun out on our crappy gravel road and totaled it in a ditch just 3 weeks after getting it
@jordananthony3910
@jordananthony3910 9 күн бұрын
I just bought a 1975 Mach 1 Hatcback…also was a California car.
@AutoAuctionRebuilds
@AutoAuctionRebuilds 10 күн бұрын
Fellow Viper Club member and KZbinr here! Great video!
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 10 күн бұрын
Thanks, please remember to like and subscribe, lol!
@Alex_MKE
@Alex_MKE 10 күн бұрын
Great video, very well edited!!! Hands down the nicest cleanest car in the burnout pit that day. May I ask what is the type of tape you run to protect your paint?
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 10 күн бұрын
Thanks! "delicate" painters tape, it seemed to do the job well and protected the paint.
@Rex_Racer
@Rex_Racer 14 күн бұрын
Sounds fantastic! Enjoy your Lotus!
@JNatella
@JNatella 14 күн бұрын
As an NC owner I have 245s available in all of the above tires, did you ever test a 245 Re71? We're split between the RE71s, CRS and V730. Our race format is 2 3 hour races per weekend. Sat/sun is practice/quali in the morning and a 3 hour race with 2 drivers changes in the afternoon (tire pressure adjustment is allowed when pitting). Re71rs seems the most versatile (rain) and fastest tire, but we expect to get a weekend out of them at best (and a little worried if it'll make it) CRS feels like it's similar pace and will likely make it all weekend (wondering if we could get 2 weekends out of it if we practiced on different tires. And the V730 which I "think" could make it 2 weekends if we just raced on them which would cut our budget down, but they don't seem to work on the car well. They seem way off the pace and grip level(on this car at least) of the Re71s and CRS from previous experience with them. Do you think my life expectancy out of each is reasonable? The car raced successfully on RS4s previously in WRL, and I think we could get 3-4 weekends on them but if they're slower than the V730s, I'd honestly be concerned about our pace
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 12 күн бұрын
I don't have direct experience with the RE71RS, just the RE71R, but I will say its a GOOD tire that seemed to be ok on wear and I hear the RE71RS is better wear wise. It definitely in the category of a "Hot Tire" and should be up there with the CRS and Nexens.
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 15 күн бұрын
I've never seen the original build video for this car. Is it basically a naturally aspirated (built?) Cobalt engine in this ride, or is something else (besides the GM lump) also labeled an 'Ecotec'??
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 16 күн бұрын
As far as 'endurance' type 200 TWs go; Any experiences, or thoughts on the Yok AD09s at all and how they compare to the 'old gold standard' of the RS4s as far as grip vs. longevity goes?? Or are they considered way too much of a 'street tire' grip-wise to even be mentioned in the same breath as all of the other 'endurance tires out there?
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 16 күн бұрын
From GRM, the AD09 has wear similar to the N'Fera Sport R (Yikes!), but a pace similar to the Extreme Contact Force, just a hair faster than the RS4. Seems like you'd be much better off with the ECF
@TRZ0612
@TRZ0612 14 күн бұрын
@@ruggedbadgerracing I run the AD09's on my 718 GT4 (because they have stiff sidewalls, as I HATE the stock Cup 2's because the sidewalls are so soft) on the street and they are pretty good, but they are not the grippiest. I previously ran the Goodyear F1 Supercar 3's, and those had more ultimate grip, but they are NEVER avail. and always on back order. The CR-S V2 are coming avail in my sizes in July, can't wait to try them.
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 13 күн бұрын
@@ruggedbadgerracing I would have considered the (Hoosier) Contis, but of course they do not offer it (just like most other manufacturers do not as well) in the size I need (215/40-17). ☹
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 12 күн бұрын
@@LS1conehead Could you go wider at all? What car are you running?
@Alex_MKE
@Alex_MKE 18 күн бұрын
that LED light ring would KILL ME!!
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 18 күн бұрын
LOL, its helpful to remember its just a $40K car.
@nick_diesel
@nick_diesel 19 күн бұрын
FOXWELL NT630 Plus OBD2 Scanner on Amazon is currently $130 and will clear those airbag lights using the Daewoo method mentioned
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 19 күн бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for the tip!
@waynebroadley1546
@waynebroadley1546 18 күн бұрын
I bought the same and it works. Won't tell you the code but fora low battery voltage, it works every time.
@nick_diesel
@nick_diesel 19 күн бұрын
Blue ball is $150 or less replacement, I've done it. My dealer was going to do a whole shifter assembly replacement ($3k) if it wasn't for the guys on lotus talk intervening
@GoodmorningGoodnight
@GoodmorningGoodnight 19 күн бұрын
My sail panel cracked in the exact same spot. Lol. A pillar too.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 19 күн бұрын
Crazy. Not sure if they ever fixed the design issue.
@Logan.Senhauser
@Logan.Senhauser 19 күн бұрын
Pretty neat info, don’t see a lot of these cars around. Thank you for sharing!
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 19 күн бұрын
Thanks, remember to like and subscribe!
@JimLewis-vz9sd
@JimLewis-vz9sd 22 күн бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing your experience and expertise.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 20 күн бұрын
Thanks! Remember to Like and Subscribe!
@philstireservice5476
@philstireservice5476 22 күн бұрын
The JRW is also the heaviest 15x10. If you want the best 15x10 look at the KE Motorsport PRO T12 G2. Lighter and stronger than the Konig......
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 20 күн бұрын
Interesting, when I get a new set, I will reach out. Do you know what the brake clearance is like? We really like the Konig Freeform because it has a smaller hub boss allowing tiny brakes and a good amount of clearance at the top for really big brakes.
@TPMparts
@TPMparts 22 күн бұрын
We won the ChampCar Endurance Series National Championship with Atlanta Speedwerks on Nexen N'Fera Sport R's! They are definitely becoming a top choice in the endurance scene!
@hinata32725
@hinata32725 22 күн бұрын
I run these and they perform amazing!
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 20 күн бұрын
Congrats!
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko 22 күн бұрын
what did you have to do to fit a 15x10 on your NA? I'm running 15x9 225s and would like to get to 15x10 but not sure how well they fit....
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 22 күн бұрын
No changes, but our fenders were already rolled out to meet the ChampCar 10-2 rule for fender clearance. They actually cleared the brakes better than the 15x10 vs. the 15x9 as well.
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko 22 күн бұрын
There are no Nexen N'Fera Sport R available in 15" in the country, and they're supposedly changing factories, so none available this year (that's what the lady at Nexen told me).
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 22 күн бұрын
That's good info, I appreciate it!
@TPMparts
@TPMparts 22 күн бұрын
We have yours on backorder and are looking to get them in late summer!
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko 22 күн бұрын
@@TPMparts fingers crossed! Thanks for keeping me on the list!
@AverageJoesracingteam
@AverageJoesracingteam 22 күн бұрын
Great video Roy. Veey discouraging to hear that all those 15 inch wheels bend. I have really been looking forward to my mzr swapped na so i could get back to a 15 inch rim and tire because they are lighter, cheaper, and i thought they were gonna be more durable than the 17's on the nc. Regarding the Rt660, I'm really shocked to hear the issues that you have had. When I started running them, Rodney earwood said to make sure that I run enough air in them because he had a similar experience that you had with his bmw when he did not run enough air in them. He spoke with their engineer to find out the correct air pressure and what not. I also assumed that part of his issue was that his BMW made more power and was heavier than my NC miata. They have been consistently very good for the nc. Aside from mcm, they will last the whole 14 hour race everywhere or a whole 15 to 16 our weekend. Usually with Tire left over to use on a practice day at an upcoming event. They are way more consistent and at least one second faster than the rs4. Another thing that I want to mention is that tire rack did a tire test on 7 in 8 in and 9 inch rims using a 205, 225, and 245. They found that the 225 on 9 inch rims was the best combination. So that is what i switched to last year. There might be a little more time with a 245, but i have really been pleased with the feel of ths 225 not to mention the price difference
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 22 күн бұрын
Do you know if the tire rack test was endurance racing or multiple laps? I was concerned about the heat buildup on the smaller tire. The difference between the 225 and 245 is almost 9% wider. Regarding the RT660 some other teams mentioned they had luck as well. We were at Mid-O with mild weather, maybe we were just pushing too hard on it or got a bad batch when the middle treadblock pulled up.
@AverageJoesracingteam
@AverageJoesracingteam 22 күн бұрын
@ruggedbadgerracing The tire rack test was more about fastest time , not longevity. the 17 inch tire has so much more tire to absorb/disperse the heat over a 15 inch on a car with similar weight and power. Maybe that's how the nc gets away with running the 225 over the 245.
@davidcoyle7125
@davidcoyle7125 24 күн бұрын
Only a guess but extra clearances are needed on both ring gap, piston to bore and even crankshaft bearings when running higher than stock power.
@florenbaron7111
@florenbaron7111 25 күн бұрын
If it's a Ford than failure does not surprise me.
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko 24 күн бұрын
Ecotec is GM.
@Trevor6264-sp1wr
@Trevor6264-sp1wr 25 күн бұрын
This looks like you need some ring gap.what Octane did you use
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 25 күн бұрын
We used 93, but we found our AFRs were in the high 13s and low 14s that we believe caused the failures. Not sure why, but we are investigating now.
@38bfast
@38bfast 27 күн бұрын
Money spent on a build depends on the outcome you are looking for on track. If your target is to participate it can be super cheap. If you are going for an overall win every race the price sky rockets. To constantly place at the pointy end all the I have to be dotted and t crossed. First you need a 100% reliable car and on top of that it has to be fast. Both of those aspects (reliability and speed) are where all the cost come in. I would always prioritize reliability first because if you can't finish you can't win. Replacing know weak parts before they fail adds up fast. If you go down the road of "we will fix it when it brakes" you are not bringing a 100% reliable car to the track. Oh and don't discount the drivers they play a big impact on the outcome as well.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 27 күн бұрын
Well said!
@DocGTO
@DocGTO 27 күн бұрын
I know you have raced the car already but catching up on your video series. Do you guys actually run a legit racing oil? After our Daytona mishap last year, we finally put in a 3 quart Accusump to go along with the trap door oil pan baffle and switched to 40 weight VR1 oil and everything was much better.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 27 күн бұрын
We ran Motul V300 10W40 for the race, switching from a full synthetic 5W40. On the next motor we will probably run a conventional oil for the first race to break it in.
@DocGTO
@DocGTO 27 күн бұрын
Cool. We did run Mobil 1 5w30 to break in the engine on the dyno. Now it's Valvoline VR1 40 weight for the races.
@DocGTO
@DocGTO 27 күн бұрын
We did a similar headlight setup in the same location. We found some crystal clear lens covers that don't disrupt the beam compared to the stock lenses. Amazon sells them for $40.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 27 күн бұрын
I didn't even look to be honest. That would have been helpful. When we finished the car though, we used our previous bumper which got pulled down by the splitter and the lights actually no longer fit behind the lens. We had to drill holes anyway, lol. That's how these projects go sometimes I guess. I appreciate the tip though!
@DocGTO
@DocGTO 27 күн бұрын
Sure. Sometimes we have to mod based on track damage. Lol. Lost our rear bumper at Daytona last year. Kept it off and put on a rules legal crash bar instead.
@ReneES-em1ye
@ReneES-em1ye 28 күн бұрын
I am still going with too much internal combustion heat due to a combination of lean mixture and late timing. (Exhaust leak giving false O2 readings and the loose pulley triggering the knock sensor to pull back the timing or timing retarded too much from an incorrect tune) If the piston damage was caused by detonation then chunks of the piston probably would have been dislodged all at once then left evidence of the bits being hammered between the piston and the head. I think the pistons were progressively burnt away in short order. The molten metal from the burning piston could be the spots on the cylinder head. I believe the dark spots on the head in each cylinder indicates high heat. Any valve, valve seat, or valve guide damage could be from the excessive heat in the combustion chamber and head surface This heat could have been transferring into the intake valve seat and the intake valve itself over-riding the normal cooling affect of intake air/fuel flow and and cooling affect when it closes and contacts a cooler seat. The intake valve stem could have even increased in diameter due to over-heating and started to seize in the guide.
@malcolmaustin2197
@malcolmaustin2197 27 күн бұрын
I don’t see any signs of progressive failure, the broken pistons still look clean and jagged not melted. That usually indicates a sudden failure / overload. I think piston 3 really solidifies this, that break in the ring land is “clean”.
@malcolmaustin2197
@malcolmaustin2197 28 күн бұрын
Pre Ignition ( not Detonation ) damage, detonation occurs after the plug ignites the air and fuel. Pre Ignition happens as the piston is traveling upward and causes failure like you have experienced. That explains why you don't have damage to the rod bearings.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 28 күн бұрын
What do you think would be the cause of that
@malcolmaustin2197
@malcolmaustin2197 28 күн бұрын
@@ruggedbadgerracing its usually a hot spot in the combustion chamber, sometimes it could be a cracked spark plug, something with a sharp edge that can heat up to the point where it ignites the fuel mixture before the compression stroke is finished ( like WAAAY before ). Things like loose burning carbon can cause it as well as oil in the combustion chamber in the right amounts, a burnt/ burning valve, a rouge spark plug or the wrong spark plug. Maybe a injector gave up, things went way lean and EGT went too high? Could also be ignition timing too far advanced but I doubt it in your case. Lots of ways to speculate but its going to be difficult to know for sure.
@stevec5280
@stevec5280 27 күн бұрын
I'm still leaning towards the intermittent fuel starvation as a root cause. I think it's fantastic that y'all are tearing it down and really trying to dissect for a failure too. I enjoy the quest for answers and general knowledge. But y'all know it was starving for fuel at times. Fix the obvious problem and gather more data. DEFINITELY recommend getting a wide band and maybe EGT sensors. That way y'all can do a test day and gather data.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 27 күн бұрын
@@stevec5280 We have a wideband and I will try to get that connected to the AiM for logging. We ordered a new surge tank, pumps, plumbing a new fuel rail and we will move to return style fuel system. We also have a new conservative tuned ECU on its way from Ecotec Miata, and we will get the injectors reflowed. I will also make sure we connect the knock sensor and we will try to log that as well. We bought some plugs to block off the oiling system so we can use the OE filter on the street to see how that performs vs. the remote filter and accusump that in currently installed. That said, I am actively trying to get feedback and dial in on the exact issue because I really don't want to blow another race.
@stevec5280
@stevec5280 27 күн бұрын
@@ruggedbadgerracing cool beans. Sounds like all steps in the right direction. What model Ecotec/ECU is the setup btw? The standard LE5/E67 ?
@Paul-vc4zz
@Paul-vc4zz 28 күн бұрын
Seems like more of a tune issue than oil starve to me. Usually you spin a bearing before anything with the pistons in a low oil P situation.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing 27 күн бұрын
I appreciate the feedback. I do have a new ECU on its way. Fingers crossed!
@malcolmaustin2197
@malcolmaustin2197 29 күн бұрын
I will guess pre-ignition ( not detonation ) caused this. Just a guess. As to why, that remains to be seen....
@ReneES-em1ye
@ReneES-em1ye Ай бұрын
I just found out my 1952 lakehouse needs some major work. You need to buy my car for $15K. I spent more than that just for the EcotecMiata turn-key installation. Located in Brighton, Michigan 48114. It needs the brakes improved and heat shields but could be driven anywhere. The only problem is the interior is too nice to make a race car. But it would be the ideal street car for product development and to showcase your products. Perfect for "Miatas at the Gap". It comes with the following parts for future improvements: Ecotecmiata flywheel kit, New HD clutch assembly, 6-speed Miata transmission with 33,000 miles, Solstice AR5 transmission with 33,000 miles, Slingshot transmission with 14 miles, later rear subframe if you run without a PPF, Flyin Miata V8 crossflow radiator, Flyin Miata V8 sway bar bent to clear pulley nut, Flyin Miata sway bar supports, various cooling fittings to re-route hoses, Mazdaspeed sideskirts, Jetstream front spoiler, Bimini top kit, Quickjack hydraulic lift, plus many more. See pictures on my channel or search "Miataquest" on insta-ya-know.
@ReneES-em1ye
@ReneES-em1ye Ай бұрын
I am going with a combination of the exhaust leak giving the oxygen sensor bad feedback and the damaged pulley triggering the knock sensor to pull back the timing. The combination of pulled back timing and a lean mixture could have made everything run hot internally including the oil.
@RB-zn2xu
@RB-zn2xu Ай бұрын
Got hot and rings butted? Try to avoid stock ring gaps if it possible engine may get hot in racing like losing cooling. Look for intermittent vertical ring gouges in cylinder walls once you get pistons out.
@Trevor6264-sp1wr
@Trevor6264-sp1wr 25 күн бұрын
Agreed
@mcgregor711
@mcgregor711 Ай бұрын
Rings butting up together will pull the head off of the pistons ot break the ring land in between the 2 compression rings.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
Would you be looking for something on the piston or rings to indicate that?
@stevec5280
@stevec5280 Ай бұрын
Best guess with information and evidence provided...... intermittent lean condition caused by fuel slosh. Cylinders run lean, get hot, butt the top ring, and pop the lands.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
Thanks for the input!
@AverageJoesracingteam
@AverageJoesracingteam Ай бұрын
Hoe was your oil level throughout? Was it consuming oil thru the pcv lowering the octane creating detonation . Maybe try venting the pcv and valve cover to a catch can then road draft it
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
It was really hard to tell. Sunday our front crank seal became dislodged because it wasn't installed properly, but we still had like 5-6qts when I drained the pan.
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko Ай бұрын
Hmm KZbin ate my other comment.....1) were you able to check timing before you pulled it apart? 2) Any chance mechanical timing moved due to the keyway issue or was wrong when you put it back together Sunday?
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
Everything looked good keyway wise
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko Ай бұрын
Do you data log your wideband values? Do you data log Fuel Pressure?
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
I can check the AiM, I do have fuel pressure.
@SSR2696
@SSR2696 Ай бұрын
Data point. I've ran mine quite lean to make 2hr stints and never seen any signs of detonation on the plugs. Ecotec ECU flash with lowered fuel pressure, ~100hrs at 13:1 afr on pump 91
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
I am going to see if I have AFRs captured by the AiM and review that data.
@scottkastelic2787
@scottkastelic2787 Ай бұрын
Timing dude!
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
I think I am going to get a new flashed ECU to eliminate this or the octane issue. Its my understanding the timing is fixed and adjusted in the ECU. Is that your understanding?
@malcolmaustin2197
@malcolmaustin2197 Ай бұрын
I’d be surprised if you encountered enough detonation to destroy pistons without it being obvious on the rod bearings. Maybe pull the connecting rods and have a look, the bearings usually start to pinch inwards and wipe the oil from the journal. Even if they aren’t spun you should be able to tell by the bearing fit/crush into the connecting Rod.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
I am going to pull them Friday I think. I will reply then.
@wht420aeclipse
@wht420aeclipse Ай бұрын
I know there's a big community for ecotec buggys, have you reached out to them to see if they have similar issues (I know they run their stuff hard). I wonder because they run the stock ecotec oilpan...just a thought
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
That's a good call. I will try to find that group to ask.
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko Ай бұрын
Nice lap. Any thoughts on the larger oil pressure drop in the left hand turns?
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
I'm going to try not to think about it
@jeffwasilko
@jeffwasilko Ай бұрын
@@ruggedbadgerracing Hah. I've used that problem solving approach before. Sometimes it works :-)
@aygwm
@aygwm Ай бұрын
Those bearings were crying on every turn
@cabriniman
@cabriniman Ай бұрын
For what it's worth - our first ecotec motor lasted 23.25 hours of a true 24 before it blew and it went immediately after some horrifying money shifts. I do not believe these motors are forgiving that way. The next motor lasted over 100 hard track hours before blowing with a fuel cutoff at 6,250. The dyno doesn't lie, these motors don't make more power past that. I've seen oil pressure all over the place throughout. High when cold and much MUCH lower when warm. We run an original "ecotec" Miata pan for reference. About being down on power at weird times - check your intake temps. I don't know your tune or ECU (sorry too lazy to check) but in my experience high intake temps have massively hindered the power. We generally run without a driver side headlight in our NB with aggressive good vents. Good luck on your next motor. We've had good luck with more patient shifting and aggressive fuel cutoffs. I cringed watching the Saturday footage when the driver was shifting at 6,700. Great videos!
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
What RPM were your money shifts at? When it blew, what was the failure?
@mostlyuselessgarage
@mostlyuselessgarage Ай бұрын
Just guessing here, but it sounds like your failure mode is a combination of issues. Spinning high RPMs, oil pressure, and those crank pulley and timing failures. It seems folks like to bag on this swap about blowing motors, but endurance racing is pretty much THE most extreme sustained duty cycle for any car. You guys were killing it out there. Great job guys!
@ReneES-em1ye
@ReneES-em1ye Ай бұрын
I think when you had the bad exhaust leak the oxygen sensor was sending false readings and subsequently the system was trying to compensate with too lean of a mixture then followed by a too rich mixture. Back & forth and back & forth until whatever failed.
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
That could be, I am confirming that the ECU is actually using the O2 readings.
@jayjohnson600
@jayjohnson600 Ай бұрын
Check the oil pressure log traces. Video at 19:05 the oil pressure is bottoming around mid-30's and touched 34psi at 4900rpm.
@stevec5280
@stevec5280 Ай бұрын
I've got money on the exhaust valve seats failing on cylinder 2. That was a quasi normal failure we saw on the ecotecs
@ruggedbadgerracing
@ruggedbadgerracing Ай бұрын
Bent intake valve, not sure why thought
@stevec5280
@stevec5280 Ай бұрын
@@ruggedbadgerracing huh, that is weird. Only one intake valve bent?