@@irishmanwrx7715 It did, but holy crap it lasted a long time! I think it made it until 7/2024 (I gave it to a friend). Currently Warrior is making the most durable sticks in regard to top-end sticks.

@@mongillohockey im down to a clearance ft5 pro and a clearance alpha lx pro 179 for the warrior 199 for the ccm boomer says ft5 because we don't know if it is an OG lx pro (mexico or china) and stick talk said alpha lx whats your say!? they are for a rugged defenceman that takes all shot types so durability is important

@@coachtd2163 Hey there! Yes! The HP35s have actual real plastic in them! I wanted the same thing since I had three hip surgeries. Here’s what to know about fit for pro stock CCM pants. You generally need to go up a size from Bauer. For instance, I wear a large Bauer pant and extra large CCM pant. The other thing is that CCM pants are a little shorter than Bauer. If you’re over 5’11” you might consider the +1 inch for CCM. Another pro stock pant that may work for you is the Bauer Nexus. You’d need to get those on sideline swap. That’s what I’m wearing now. I’d say both have similar features and fit.

@@dallasbiggz7007 Yeah skate fit is such a wildcard. That’s exactly why I don’t buy skates online unless I’ve tried them first. Just never know anymore.

@mongillohockey i own about 10 pair of skates - each of the major brands (Bauer/CCM) and models for those brands. The only way I can afford that is buying used skates at roughly 75% discount (4:1). All my other skates fit just fine with the size I am used to. Only these Hyperlites have been the exception case, which is strange they couldn't get it right. Just seems they didn't offset sizing for the reduction in lining materials they implemented to reduce weight. And I'll be honest, not sure i like them that much - feel like a hard carbon shell with no padding. Almost like a plastic skate with a heavy sock serving as the liner! 🤣

@@kenshiroFNS I hear ya. I keep a stock pile from Amazon. Lol

@mongillohockey America or Canada? It's unavailable on Amazon Canada

@ America. I haven’t ordered a set in a while but that’s where located.

@@mckentycarpentry4665 If you can get your foot scanned on a Bauer machine that’d be ideal. No skates fit like the old D or EE widths anymore. A fit 1 is narrow, fit 2 is regular and fit 3 is wide and high volume.

@@redline4124 I can’t speak to whether or not the curves are made in the same factory, but they are objectively different in spec and even feel (which may or may not be noticeable to some people). I don’t counter your comment to be argumentative, but I just don’t want people to think they’re the same curve.

@@mongillohockey Yeah I got ya, I'm not trying to be argumentative either but throw in my knowledge in. But the general curve will be the same making the puck want to come off the same in a sense, mid length blade with a mid/toe curve and open face. Anything beyond that comes down to stick construction which differs from bauer to ccm the feel is different because the vapor has a much stiffer blade then any ccm sticks. The feel and blade construction can be different in the same stick line year to year even. If you compared the p29 on a ccm ribcore trigger pro 3 pmt against the 9pro it would be different as well even tho their the same stick line with a p29. Just blade construction. And the made in the same factory was more of a joke but wouldn't surprise me lol.

@ Yes I’m in alignment with you on how you shoot the p29 and p92. That is basically the same. I do appreciate the comments and input!

@@Mark-xr5gj The XFs are very neutral in their stance and the Shadows have a ton of forward pitch, even compared to the Vapors.

@ wow good to know. Historically I thought supreme was much more neutral maybe I’ll give them a try now. I haven’t owned any since one100 lol

@ Lol yeah I was totally surprised by how much forward pitch the Shadows had. I think the 9/10 profile is great on that skate.

@@mongillohockey very cool. I always run a forward pitch on my steel tho in Vapor’s so I may need that dialed back if they are as aggressive as you say. I’ve run a 9/10 recently but felt like I was missing a little up front on crossovers and tried a 10/11 that I’m not in love with since nobody around me had a straight 10. I just got a delivery today actually of 4 different skatescribe profiles to try. I was telling the beer league bum he could use em for content if they’re not redone by the time he’s ready lol. Since they are the same steel and size in his skates.

@ Awesome! Yeah he was pretty surprised by how the profiles impacted his game. I actually just found a new profile called an SCS1. It’s my new favorite when I’m using CCM XS holders. Very agile and smooth.

@@kitbay Yes. It’s about 1 degree of forward pitch that you’d want to add if you’re using a CCM XS holder. That’ll be close to the Bauer Tuuk Edge holder pitch. I’d start there as you can always add more pitch if you want but it’s a pain to remove it.

@@mongillohockey Do you have an idea how i can calculate that to offset mm? Im using quad 1 thats standard 20mm. Im thinking +10 (30 total) to compensate.

@ Hmm, usually when I order a profile like a quad, I ask for 1 degree of forward pitch. That’ll feels about the same as a quad on a Tuuk holder without the forward pitch. Not sure about mm.

@@cameronmi9937 oh nice, thanks for the update! Yeah I think CCM did a good job with their skates this year. But the Shadows are good too. Let me know what you think if you find the shadows in your size.

@ will do I think the shadows r great too. I also feel the xfs will feel better once they break in especially with the stiff boot.

@ That’s my take too. Give the CCMs 1.5 months break in. Seems like a long time, but that’s typically my experience breaking them in. They’ll last a long time.

@@BenDover-t4f Im sorry to hear that! Unfortunately that’s not too surprising. Bauer destroys big toe joints and heels. I just got rid of my Supreme Shadows because I they were doing it to my left heel and left big toe joint. Every time I use CCM skates it’s like a cocoon of cushioning. I have no idea why people still prefer Bauer. They’re not even made as well as CCM.

@@rayspooner1982 Oh nice! Let me know how you like them. You can always trim them if you need more room.

@@edlong266 Nice. If he likes Bauer Vapor sticks and low kick, I think he’ll be happy.

@@cameronmi9937 Hi there, I can only speak to the Hyperlite 1, Shadows and XF Tacks skates. The XF has the most instep volume of any skate on the market, followed by the FT6 pros, then the Shadows and then the Hyperlite 1. I’ve heard the Hyperlite 2 skates have less overall volume the the first gen but I can’t confirm that. The bottom line is that if you really need volume, you need to go CCM. If you absolutely hate CCM, go with the Shadows. I personally own the Shadows and now the XFs (not the XF pro-the one down from the top) and the XF is significantly more comfortable for my foot than the Shadows, but I might skate a little faster in the shadows. Do you want speed and pain or comfort and agility without great speed? lol. That’s at least the case for my feet.

@ thank you I think I’m gonna go try the xf pros and the shadows. I’ve had both generations of hyperlites. And even gone up half a size. And I suffer from pain on the outside of my feet and lace bite on my instep. I’ve tried everything u can imagine to help it and nothing helps I think I just need to try a different skate model. I like the performance of the Bauers, I haven’t been in ccm in a while. But I’m open to anything.

@ Yes, I’m in a similar boat. I’d say to try the FT6 pro as those are very nice, but you’ll get more room out of an XF skate. One thing to note. I’m typically the guy who only buys top of the line skates. The XF skates were so good that I didn’t bother buying the XF pros. The material is the same. The only two differences between the XF and XF pro is stiffness and steel. With the XF pro you get a stiffer boot and you get Step Steel black steel. That said, the XF is still stiffer than the FT6 Pro and anything from Bauer and you get the stainless Step Steel. You don’t even get steel with the Bauer skates (at least the Shadows).

@@mongillohockey thank I’ll definitely try them on and see how it goes

@@brandonmitchell1457 Yep, that’s a common trend with True. I’ll be curious about their newest stick because they completely ditched their old manufacturing facility due to too many stick breakages. So far this year the Bauer Hyperlite 2 has had the most durability which is extremely surprising. I do think Warrior has the best overall right now.

@ yea I’m also curious about how their sticks will hold up once they make that change. My two favourite sticks I own at the moment are both warrior pro stocks, haven’t tried warrior retail yet but their pro stocks are top notch in my opinion 👍

@ I thought the Novium Pro was a powerful mid kick if you dropped your normal flex by 5. The QR6 pro might be the best shooting low kick out there right now.

@@GhoStDawGG thanks for watching!

@@Dansky38UK sorry to hear that but skates kinda fit perfect or terrible these days it seems. Here’s my thoughts as a long time CCM skater (although I’m wearing the Bauer Shadow right now). I had the FT4 Pros for a long time. Literally every pair of CCM skates I’ve owned require significantly longer break in periods than you’d think. For instance, I had arch pain and hot spots on the outside ankle bones and top of the boot. I thought I’d get rid of them for sure. I literally had to bake them four times, skate adult rec league three days per week and for one and a half months to get them dialed in. I have a couple of other friends who had exactly the same experience. That said, once they were broken in they were amazing. People choose Bauer skates because they break in after only 10 hours and feel initially more comfortable on the ice however they don’t last near as long as CCM. Long story short I think you need additional time unless you put in more hours than I just mentioned. if you tried all of the things I said, and they still don’t work try returning them because they think CCM is actually pretty good about it. Let me know what happens.

Same thing. 8 months skating on Vapors , 9.5 after being on Supremes for a decade. Hate it. no power, no glide. Shorter rocker and just never feeling connected to the ice. Tried a CAG profile, still not great. too pitched forward. Said you know what, trying this Bauer profile machine that a shop locally has. Said simply, I want more blade on the ice. Went with an Ellipse I. Skated on them this morning...GAME CHANGER. I was about to pitch these skates in the trash even though they fit incredibly. I couldn't skate. This morning though, tons of glide, jumping into the play, good cuts and turns. So much better. I don't feel unstable and have confidence again. I should have done this sooner. Makes me wonder if I have always fought skates throughout their lifetime because i didn't understand what profiling is. CAG 25-45 wasn't working for me. Was better than stock but still not what I wanted. heels were slipping on crossovers.

@@mikeutubename honestly you could be right about the old P 88 curve’s lie. I was basing my opinion on information from a long time ago. I should go check again. Of course it might be irrelevant because the people I know at some pretty popular retailers are telling me that the P 88 curve is supposed to be phased out and will only be available through order. Who knows though. And I don’t know why, but I keep coming back to the P90 TM curve. It’s probably just because I’m not a fan of the P 28. lol anyways thanks for checking out my video!

@@Philcoonan Nope. They’re different. The BladeTech sticks are essentially Bauer Hyperlite 2 sticks without the elliptical hosel.

@@yuan1 Glad you like it! I was a big Coffee guy for a long time.

@@xGentenaar Yes that’s because your instep is too tall for that skate. The supreme line is better and CCM skates of any make have the most room.

@@eliasdonchos1675 Hey there, thanks and I really appreciate the kind words! Regarding BladeTech steel, my opinion is that they are my favorite. I’ve used Step, Tydan, Bionic, Flare and a multitude of Bauer steels. There are two reasons I like BladeTech the best. First off, the spring in the toe of the steel reduces pressure off joints. That’s important to me due to hip issues. Whether or not the spring makes you faster is debatable. The second thing that I like is that the steel they use is the highest quality of the steels I’ve used. This means less sharpening and more glide. I’ll add one more bonus that I like over Step steel. The shape and height of BladeTech is almost perfect. Step is a little too tall and I have to profile a ton of metal off the toe and heel of the steel and the profile doesn’t always come out correctly. One thing I’ll note about Flare steel is that it really does feel the best on a variety of surfaces. The only thing is that none of the shops in my area can support sharpening it since they have Sparx machines and they don’t have a level tool wide enough to check the edges. Maybe your area is different. Hope that helps!

@@Huurreeeee Yeah I kinda experienced the potential for that pain, which is one of the reasons I passed on them.

@@cjmixer99 First off I appreciate the best regards! Okay, so I know that the Hyperlite 2 has less volume than the Jetspeeds but it’s a similar design. There’s two things that can impact lace bite. The thickness of your insoles and the types of socks you’re wearing. If you’re just wearing tube socks that’s actually an issue. If you have aftermarket insoles like yellow superfeet, that’ll all cause lace bite. I recommend trying the stock insoles with thin compression socks. If you’re already doing that, purchase gel Bunga pads from Amazon. If that still doesn’t work, you might need to consider selling them and looking at a boot with more volume like the Bauer Shadow or CCM XF Pro. It’s not worth an injury.

@@mongillohockey - Thanks for that insight! Yeah, I tried the gel pads with my custom True skates and didn’t alleviate the pain. I actually use regular tube socks, and recently changed the insole to the new Bauer Aetrex and they’ve been good. It was only until recently I started getting lace bite on my Hyperlite 2, and they’ve been great for the past few months. I’ll go into my shop and try on the Shadow. I’ve just been surprised that my skates only seem to last 6-10 months before they break down. I skate about 3x / week in casual pickup, not high level or serious play. I’m assuming it’s just the downside of the higher performance gear, that seem to break easier

@@cjmixer99 That’s about right. I typically get about 2 years out of skates playing rec hockey and CCM skates typically last the longest, which is irrelevant if they don’t fit properly. I’ve been pretty happy with my Shadows and the tongues are great but require longer to break in. Let me know what you end up doing.

@@pally73 I really appreciate that! As I mentioned, I’ll still be connected by answering messages. I may even start up again in another six months, but I’ll need to see what my schedule is like.

@@RoccoWarrior Yep I agree with that. Unfortunately those of us who use 75 or softer flexes are really limited on pro stock choices.

@@TheBrad605 hey there, so I think you’re saying the True skates are giving you the numb toes? It makes sense to me that the Trues are the problem because of how they’re made. If it’s the Ultrasonic, that makes less sense. If it’s the Trues, it’s likely a combination of how tight they make the skates combined with the aggressive forward pitch. Careful with this as that combo resulted in a torn big toe tendon that became a permanent issue. It’s also a known issue with True and one which they don’t publicly acknowledge. I’d be careful with this. It’s not worth the injury. Give me some more information and we can go from here.

@@mongillohockey yeah it’s the Trues. The Ultrasonics were fine. I love the feel the Trues on the ice, I get a good feel of the ice. I was thinking of trying a softer felt tongue, but not sure that is the solution. They said I should rebake them with tissue in spots to give a little more room. Just not sure where to add the tissue. The skate actually feel and fits good. Just the numb toes. The fact that it’s both feet is what’s strange or good??

@@TheBrad605 In full transparency I obviously can’t diagnose the issue fully over KZbin, but it’s my belief that one of two things is going on. First, the boots are too short since they make boots relatively tight. The second thing that could cause the numbness is pressure on the top or instep of the foot. If it’s the latter, a thinner tongue could potentially help. If it’s not that, the boots are likely too small in the length. Keep an eye on how the numbness develops. Also, it could be cause for concern if the numbness lasts even after you’re done skating. For me, it started with numb toes, progressed into pain in the ball of my left foot, then pain and numbness when I wasn’t skating and finally the left big toe tendon partially tore. I’m not saying that’s what’s going on for you, but those are some signs.

@@mongillohockey thank you

@@toddwolfe5659 Hi there, unfortunately nothing really fits like the old 1N and 2N Nexus skates. I think the closest is possibly the Tacks line of skates, but even those are much stiffer. If you want that fit, I’d start off with anything from CCM but try everything you can.

I have been using the Nexus 1N for 8 years, until they finally broke. Just bought a pair of Wide XF pros, and the fit is quite good on the boot. very confortable and spacy. The only cons I would have is, the XF pros are very heavy compared to the nexus. And the pitch is very flat. Comming from a nexus it almost feels like its completely to the back. I have trouble sending my weight forward to skate. The boot is much stiffer and the blade is definately good. Im still wondering if I made the right choice or if I should go for the Shadows. Just have doubt if the Shadows fit 3 will fit my wide foot.

@@AngelSanchez-rw3tv So that’s and easy fix. The CCM XS holder is the culprit about the pitch. All that needs to be done is for you to have 1 degree of forward pitch added to your steel and it’ll feel about the same as the Bauer Tuuk Edge holders. If you don’t already profile your steel, you should consider that, too. Remember, if you profile your steel, you also need to as for 1 degree of forward pitch added. I’ve done a lot of testing with pitch and profile and that’s just what needs to be done.

@@calgary2800 I’m laughing about the rich comment. 😎 It’s more like a skate addiction. Lol. Honestly, skates is one of the reasons I started my channel. I’ve had so many issues with skates fitting that I wanted to share my experience. Hopefully someone gets some value out of my blowing money on skates.

Nice feedback! Thank you!

Thanks! Yeah, the main reason I started my channel is because I wasn't getting the real information I wanted. Specifically, I wanted to know the thoughts of people who actually paid their own money for stuff. That just wasn't out there at the time. In most cases, I'm spending my hard-earned cash on this equipment, so I'm telling it like I see it. Also, send me a link to your video; I'd like to see it.

@@mongillohockey kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6PZl3xmbLh_hbM I'm not very good at talking to a microphone yet lol but completely agree with you, gear gets expensive and I find forums, people and hockey shops give more insight than most channels.

@@edgerunnermobileskatesharps Ah come on now; you loved it. 😎

LOL Honestly, I kinda think the XF Pro's might be a better skate overall, but you know it's all subjective. I really wish the XFs fit me. At the end of the day, both skates are great as long as it's a proper fit.

@@thomastabacchi5903 Hey there, I appreciate the comment. So, I think Justin might just be slowing down because of external factors. I believe he’ll pick it up again. In my case, I just had a career change that requires me to not only be doing intense physical and mental training for the next 6 months or so, but also to keep a low profile. I may be able to start putting videos out again, but I kinda need to feel that out.

@@ConnorLewis-t7g Thanks for the comment! Glad you liked the video!

@@markwhite6719 I can see that a little.

@@ToBeFranklyn Unnecessary in my opinion. I find that trying out sticks and skates isn’t that useful because everyone’s skill level is so different.

@@S0larW1nd Thanks for the comment! So I’ve tried both on but not side by side. To my recollection, the FT6 pro was a better fit to me than the XF pros.

Yes

@@joeschmo2693 That’s correct. I’d assume that’ll happen next June.

@@NicholasG27 They were nice, but I just couldn’t get them to work for me.

@@mongillohockey That's why I always go full total custom plus ❤️

@@SapperRJMorgan Thank you!

@@geneh2972 Thank you, sir! It’s been a good ride, but it’s time to shift focus. I’ll come back to my channel if time permits.