replace any mention of "other rhythm games" with "non arcade rhythm games that are trying way too hard to be osu!" and yeah this video is correct

With arcade-size buttons, you could probably trill with two fingers on the same hand to achieve some better speed on jacks, maybe? (idk tho i suck at the game rn lol)

vivid/stasis also has this system that I can totally work around, with some adjustments and a bonus point system. For a game that's rather free and accessible (other than k-shoot,) it does its job well. It takes the top 20 songs that fit the player's chart range, timing IS also important, it has the stats and, well, you get those delicious currencies. You could have one to five misses and you'd still be getting an [A+] to [S] at bare minimum, which also leads to motivation. I'm just glad some rhythm games are taking this into account, and hopefully we could see this being done more in future, rhythm games. Also, the letter grading is just so convenient to have.

Chord streams like booth of fighters or sakura mirage are booty too for the same reasons as 1 hand chords

I like the scoring system of Rotaeno, personally. The max score is 1,010,000 (All Perfect +), but you can get EX rank at 1M score and you don't even need to AP or FC if you have good enough accuracy. It also has a rating system and it really encourages me to get better scores, gradually becoming better and improving my accuracy. It feels really nice, I wish more people gave Rotaeno a chance...

lets talk about sections where the only one-handing pattern is AC and BD chords over and over

As a lazer main i say skill issue

Does sound Voltex have the same song variety as osu standard?

Cosmos song charts are complete trash. Note spam bs one hand part and thrills

Double tricky lasers are my worst fear

two handed laser patters more like shit hand eye coordination (me too)

If you don't like Monster Hunter, beat every single entry by hunting each monster with every weapon three times for each rank at least once per game. And pay attention to the soundtrack, dialogues and quest descriptions.

Lock-on camera does exist in Monster Hunter (as of... 4 Ultimate? 3 Ultimate added target camera), but it's very disorienting and difficult to play with. 100%ing Augments for *every* Weapon (~580?) in Monster Hunter Rise doing Rampage Quests was... actually not that bad. I didn't know it would be immediately invalidated in Master Rank, but it was an accomplishment. Seeing Rampage Skills put on their own, dedicated Rampage Skill Decoration slot was an exciting surprise.

Lanota’s scoring also makes sense. It’s got a diverse OST too, and a beautiful art and story

not to mention that rhythm games like Project Sekai’s scores can be very rigged since it involves the use of having different skill scores that affect your gameplay scores. I mean, imagine a new player that only has low-level units and getting a full combo, only to get a low score compared to all the others that have high-level units. that’s frustrating.

I LOVE Monster hunter. Its like a human need to play it. But i HATE World.

as much as i currently have over a total of 130 hours across both monster hunter world and rise my biggest grudge against it is that sometimes the hitboxes are so absolutely atrocious that i don't even find "good positioning" to be worth it if i get hit by the body part of the monster that doesn't even move a little or i get hit straight up by air next to the attack even tho there isn't a visual cue of a shockwave of any kind and that problem happens so often to me that i sometimes just take a month (or months) long breaks a few times already and it's probably gonna happen again some day

Elden ring is a dodging game rather than a blocking game imo, you need to perfectly time your dodge rolls rather than block, especially since the blocks are awkward to initiate Monster hunter is far more variable in builds. Youve got greatswords, which are just slow big hits, or insect glaives where you launch across the map in 0.0001 seconds

I dont sub but nice video but i will not ruin the 69 ^_-

I remember me and a friend getting each other into elden ring and monster hunter world respectively, and how we both hated the others combat so much at first because we both tried to play it like our favorite game. Elden ring and souls games have much stronger defensive options, you mentioned rolling but blocking is also way stronger. Even the low level shields can completely negate all damage from most attacks so long as your stamina holds out. This ended up frustrating my friend, who found out how playing sword and shield In world that his roll, and especially his block were not nearly as reliable as they were in Elden ring. Meanwhile I found Elden ring super annoying and frustrating because I was getting comboed to death by even low tier enemies, which as incredibly annoying since unlike my previous insect glaive and charge blade, Elden ring weapons are far more stationary. You don’t have a lot of options for repositioning mid combo… nor are combos really as substantial. All of this lead me to a core difference between the two games that’s helped me appreciate both. The reason the defensive options is souls games are so much stronger is because the punishment for getting hit is far harsher. Even low tier enemies can hit strings that take half your health bar with maxed out stats. This is why your block and dodge NEED to be so reliable, and why actions like healing need to be so much faster. On the other hand, in MH, your defensive options are far weaker but the punishment isn’t as harsh most often. Even if you take a lot of damage you’re granted a period of invis frames to recover. But now you’re in a jam, if you aren’t playing SNS you need to sheath your weapon, get to a safe distance, and slowly drink a potion. You have more chances to take hits, more window for error, but you are still punished if you overcommit. In the end, this makes approaching the fights very different, and learning these quirks helps you appreciate both combat systems far more.

doesn’t this apply to both iidx and ddr too? Lol

As a sdvx player for three years, i agree with a lot of things you say. The reasons why i enjoy playing sdvx to this day.

u definitely deserve many more subscribers, good video!

I watched this expecting you to have like over 100k subs at least, great video man! +1 from me

i could remember gridning for fcs in osu just for that pp. not fun. not fun at all. now playing mania(4k) and arcaea is much more enjoyable, given that scoring and performance are roughly equivalent, unlike osu's tempermental nature.

Gott[EXH] is basically cringe

lmao

It doesn't really do anything that's been done before though. Like some have already pointed out, Arcaea has a rather similar approach to player's progression: scoring, potential system, skill courses - it's all there. I think what should have been the sole focus of the entire video (a missed potential dare I say) is 'various scoring systems' and the way different games approach them' and what do they mean in terms of player's progression. Like, beatmania IIDX has a different scoring system that might seem a little weird when compared to most other modern rhythm games and on the surface might seem very tame 88.88% (equivalent of 888888 in SDVX) to get the highest grade (AAA). The catch though is it has extremely tight timing windows for the highest grade 'PGreat', but (!) a relatively lenient window for the lowest grade 'good' that won't break your chain, so the entire argument of there's a way 'between low score -> FC' is somewhat irrelevant to IIDX. In IIDX you can get an FC with an abysmally low score way before you can achieve the highest grade of AAA since 'PGreat' gives you 2 points and 'Good' while not breaking the chain gives 0 points (the real maximum score (EX score) = amount of notes in the song * 2) which basically boils down to IIDX favouring accuracy over anything else and an FC just being a cherry on top of a good score. So I believe there is definitely something to discuss about scoring in general there. And that's just one example.

Haha this is just like Arcaea

Only problem is that the controllers are so expensive!

now they just need a ninth guy to turn down/up the scroll speed for the soflan :)

While I do agree with what you said here, I think it would make more sense to use IIDX as an example - a game where missing a note means NOTHING and timing literally means EVERYTHING.

I'm a Chunithm player, and the Rating system has admittedly been a motivator that has changed my play habits quite a bit. Rather than swinging between chasing the clear/FC on charts, I find I don't mind slowly pushing towards the S rank threshold to push my rating higher and get confirmation that I am indeed improving and using rating as a subtle indicator that maybe I should start trying to push slightly harder charts. I haven't really gotten this sense of progression in a lot of other games (especially combo-based scoring systems, shudder), which has been pretty cool. I know a lot of Chuni players opt to hide their rating but I think as an intermediate player starting to push the upper echelon of charts it has been a great carrot on a stick thus far--even if it does technically suffer from "optimal" play habits you mentioned, like farming perfect ranks on easy charts within a difficulty bracket.

I started SDVX over 6 years ago coming from osu!, this perfectly illustrates why I think I hopped over for good. Great video!

omg i wish i saw this sooner... really good video! one thing i've noticed about newer players getting into sdvx is that they tend to carry over the bad habits reinforced by other clear/fc-based games, grinding specific charts at a low level, pushing from clear all the way to UC, and pushing higher difficulties too fast. you managed to say everything i felt about how volforce reinforces better habits. once again, excellent video :3

arcaea has nearly the exact same systems, a score based on 10mil = perfect (with an extra point awarded for pure perfects), a grade system to give meaningful marks for certain thresholds, and the potential system that values your overall performance! arcaea was my first rhythm game experience that i *stuck* with, and seeing this video really helped to contextualize *why* i stuck with it! this was an insanely well made video!!

Great video! Love more rhythm game videos

wow what an underrated video. This has fantastic quality and i thought it had AT LEAST views in the tens of thousands. Great stuff, man.

nice video! I've been 18.9 for few weeks now

nice video, i just started playing sound voltex a couple months ago and it's been a breath of fresh air after destroying my wrists playing osu for so long.

cosmo

Cosmo pattern

jacks are really cool, I like them a bit

Don't forget there's also a boss in SB alliance raids that makes players do math

As a rhythm gamer, sound voltex looks so hard