Look at my most recent video and you can see me using this very one in uspsa, and dropping a magazine on the ground. I don’t have anything to prove to you, and if I put a number on how much I shoot in a year’s time just in 9mm alone you wouldn’t believe me anyway. People on the internet think they know everything. If you were as experienced as you think you are you would know glock’s finish holds up to kydex well. My Gen 4 is worn exactly like you are expecting this one to because it’s been refinished with cerekote during a gunsmithing program I was in as a class project. What year did you become a Glock certified armorer? I’m looking for someone to put in my new red spiral barrel.

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I am pretty sure it is the stock spring, but if it’s not I used a stock 23# Wolff mainspring when I put on the EGW MSH. In all my 1911’s I either run full power springs or when those wear out I always replace them with extra power springs (recoil springs/firing pin springs). I see routinely see people have problems with their 1911’s/2011’s (and other platforms too) when they start trying to reduce the weight of their springs. My stuff always works and theirs is usually finicky, plus it’s wearing their guns faster with reduced power springs. I get why people do it but I do not prefer it because of first hand observation.

Fit would depend on your body type. I am a pretty lanky 6’ and I wanted the pants to be pleated and fuller fitting. I did have to size up an inch in the waist on every fit I’ve tried

I have a standard commander guide rod, with a regular commander recoil spring. The one in here is a nighthawk custom that I had in my parts pile so that’s what I used

I will try to put one together for you

I have a separate video that discusses with magazine baseplates I’ve found worked with this magwell

This magwell does not have this problem because it hooks on the front flair of the frame’s magazine well. Mine is completely rock solid to the point I would not want to get it off, and I’ve never had any problems with it coming loose or moving at all. Are you currently using this magwell or another brand?

Oh they do, bad. I’ve never worn them without socks. Just does to show how high quality the leather is.

It's a bit of an illusion because the Acro has an asymmetrical design.

The lens cover makes it looks like that for some reason, I have noticed that too

I would believe it would due to the shape but I am not sure since I don’t have one

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@@Vinegarbased thanks!

Standard staccato p magazines / standard 2011 size

I suppose it’s possible but there is no window on the lens guard it’s open so there isn’t anything to really hold moisture

I didn’t remember mentioning the recoil spring weight, but I’m running a standard commander recoil spring weight for a 4.25 commander best I can remember. Heavier spring weights are good to minimize wear and tear as well as dampen recoil. So I normally tune my stuff to run on factory spring weights or in some cases heavier spring weights, and all my stuff works and performs great. Not sure people want to see a video of me discuss my Philosophy on recoil spring weight but I guess I could make a video on it if enough people wanted it.

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​@@VinegarbasedHi. This magwell is polymer or aluminum alloy?

I appreciate it, thanks for watching

It’s supposed to fit that tight. What I did is hook the front, then I put my hand over top of the slide with my fingers and thumb gripping the frame, then I put the magwell that was hooked on the front of the front square on a non-marring surface that was solid and pushed my body weight on top of it and it press fit onto the frame.

@@Vinegarbased Thank you. Finally got it :) God bless

You will have to buy a mounting plate specifically for the ACRO

@@Vinegarbasedwhich do you recommend?

@@ChristopherDLVI have the same question because the pictures don’t match what I need for mine and the ones that do match on other websites they are out of stock

@@eduardogonzalez6331 I have mine already, you need an Acro p2 footprint for whatever gun you’re getting bro. I got mine on optics planet

Thanks King

Every last I own are still my standard size in Carmina. They fit great and are probably my favorite last from them aesthetically.

@@Vinegarbased thanks so much!!

Best I can tell the other lasts I own just have slightly different shape toe boxes for aesthetic purposes.

@@Vinegarbased I have the Forest, Rain, and Xim lasts. I’m just don’t have anywhere to try on other pairs around me now and don’t like paying return shipping 😁 thanks for the feedback! I’m probably an 8.5UK like the others. I like snuff suede a lot but I really want the brown suede. The Armoury doesn’t have my size available though

Noticeably thicker, but it’s beveled in a way it doesn’t sit off the acro like a brick. If you have dial calipers I’ll take it off and measure it for you.

@@Vinegarbased I was wonder for holsters. Mine already touches the inside of my safariland so I’m gonna bet it’s not the best choice for me.

You’ll have to buy all the parts and assemble it

In short I just wanted a project. I don’t regret buying a prodigy because I went to buy a P the day I bought this prodigy and the particular P I handled I wasn’t very impressed with. That being said I handled 2 staccatos last night and was very impressed with them. I’ll buy a P at some point. That being said with all the stuff I’ve done to the Prodigy I still have less than the cost of a P by itself. I could go into a more nuanced explanation but this is the cliff notes version.

@@Vinegarbased I get it... I actually ordered a P after leaving this comment and have added an extended slide release, one piece guide rod, heavier spring, etc. to the Prodigy to boot.

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The video I did on this prodigy goes through the parts list

There are IWB holsters for it from companies like LAS Concealment and a few others. Tenicor told me their 2011 holster may work, I think I am going to get one to find out. I'm waiting for G-Code to come out with an OWB, I've spoken with them and

No problems so far

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I just haven’t bought one for it yet since I’m still waiting for my holster maker of choice to come out with a holster for it, so for right now it’s just a range toy. But I will absolutely be putting one on. There does not appear there will be any fitment issues with the standard P2 guard.

@@Vinegarbased lovely, thanks a ton for the info. I’ll be picking a lens cover up then. Cheers!

Based on what I’ve heard the newer prodigy’s are coming from Springfield without issues. So if you get a newer one you should be fine. I’m pretty sure if you have issues you can send it to Springfield and they will fix it under warranty. If you have the ability or are willing to send it off I would ream the chamber. The rest of the parts I put in were just because I wanted to not necessarily because there was anything wrong with the stock parts.

Shoots great, it’s been perfectly reliable for me so far

Sounds cool! Let me know how it does if you think about it

@@Vinegarbased Installed the DTS, extractor and firing pin and spring. took it out yesterday and ran 250 rounds through it. That trigger system is amazing. the gun did have a few failures to eject and stovepipes. tuned the extractor and took out again today and the thing ran almost flawlessly. Have it narrowed down to one of the 20 round mags, the 17 round mag runs smoothly with no problem's at all and when I only loaded 18 rounds in the 20 round megs they also ran without problem's. took it to the gun smith to have the ejector installed it needs to be drilled for the pin and that is above my ability. Next up is respringing the mags, guide rod spring and probably an optic.

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Thanks! Works great no issues. Nothing wrong with the full length guide rod it’s just not my preference. The difference in feeling is too nuanced to articulate because you’ll have to shoot a lot of 9mm though 1911’s before you can pick up on any difference and even then it’s negligible. There are instances where a full length guide rod can damage your barrel lugs. No it won’t damage it by not having one, that’s the original design of the 1911 and they have been in use without a full length guide rod for over 100 years now and it’s never been a problem.

@@Vinegarbased Thanks for the response! I'm thinking of using egw's spring guide and a 9 or 10 lb recoil spring I hope it works well.

My assumption is it’s because the gen 5 frame flares out around the magwell and there is no good design for a ‘edc’ style that would work around the frames flared opening

@@Vinegarbased Several other well known manufacturers have solved that challenge and do offer it though.

I personally did not spend almost the cost of the gun or anywhere close on parts. My particular prodigy’s side to frame fit is tight, and not just because of ‘being over coated’. In the video I encourage people to buy a staccato.

I spent way more than my Prodigy cost to make it a match pistol. Still make enough money to build another staccato out, or a Brazos, or whatever lol. I guess if you can't afford to own and play with 2011s you should just buy Glocks and other 500$ poly guns.

Thank you! I did not have to do anything to the frame, that being said the trigger did have to be fit to the frame it was not drop in.

@@Vinegarbased Thanks. Really liking that solid trigger piece. Did you just use sand paper? If so, what grit?

@@kennys223 I did it with a file, it’s possible to do with sand paper in theory but you’d be doing it forever. It had enough extra material that if I ever fit another one I’m going to put it in a mill to get off the majority and do the rest by hand. That’s what I should have done the first time but I was being impatient and didn’t think it would take as long as it did or else I wouldn’t have done it.

Looks great! I like your gunsmith approach. Probably what I would do to get the prodigy up to snuff with the hard parts. Let us see an update to your final version on the range. Good work!

Thanks man! It’s a fun hobby to have and I am fortunate they offer classes like that in my area to teach this stuff. I don’t recall saying this in the video but the day I bought it I went to buy a staccato p and felt them side by side and I left with the prodigy because it was fit tighter and the slide to frame fit was smoother and I knew I could fix it if it had any problems so to me it was a win win. People like the give the prodigy a hard time but even if you have to send it back and get Springfield or a smith to fix it you’re going to have a great 2011/1911 DS when you get it back.

That’s awesome, I had no malfunctions because I watched a few you tube videos, I cycled mine about 1500 times, oiled and cleaned it, the amount of cerakote that came off of it, you would think I had shot it 1500 times with all the gunk that came out of it, LOL! Im convinced most people could have solved that problem of it not going into battery had they done that. I agree with you the Prodigy is tighter than the P, and now with the Atlas slide stop, I can’t believe how much tighter it got after that. I stand corrected I have about $2,600 with the 507c ACSS and Olight. I don’t understand all the hate from Staccato fan boys , granted they are awesome guns but now we have a gun with even better internals than an XC, that’s why I got the PT HTAC instead, it has an aluminum grip and Glock block link-less barrel that thing shoots like .22cal. I can honestly say the Prodigy is 98% as good as the HTAC. Good luck man and let’s see that puppy inaction! New sub

They’re website says they’re guide rod doesn’t work with the keyed reverse plug

Thanks! 10-8 is not as wide of a surface as the Egw version 2 slide stop. Personal preference. I run 10-8’s on my 1911’s but prefer the EGW V2 on the prodigy and I’ve tried both on it.

I essentially recommend this in the video towards the end

@Vinegarbased I'm not against the idea of buying a prodigy. It's just that I've heard a lot of bad reviews when they first came out and scared to get a lemon. I would rather get something out of the box that's reliable and dependable out of the box than having to replace parts. I get that it's still cheaper, I think I might just wait a little bit longer before I make up my mind. I've seen several people on KZbin who have had no problems with their prodigy as well as SA fixing the issues. That being said, I own an echelon and used to own a hellcat pro, where I've thrown all kinds of cheap ammo at them, and they just kick it out of the ball park. I want to see the prodigy do the same, especially with wanting to use it as a duty gun like the staccato p is used for