I’m scared to mess with that lol 😂. You clue the wrong piece together and bro bout to be in Rigamortus for literally all eternity lol😂.
@mayalunics474027 күн бұрын
Call you in about 30-40 minutes
@noiraymond4407Ай бұрын
W collection
@ArtizanMetal2 ай бұрын
How about as a community we come together and file a class action law suit?
@kurtcomics87973 ай бұрын
ALL of those "mechanical errors" look a lot like reverted ticks, usually because the books weren't cold pressed or were sent in without waiting a few months to see if the ticks would revert after pressing.
@fuzzy85933 ай бұрын
Man, this was painful to watch. Gonna check your channel and see if there is an update to this video. Crazy. Sorry about your books.
@bigdebo72893 ай бұрын
This looks like one of the earliest banana book returns on YT. Lots of them look bent in the case with some waves along the spine.
@txmoney3 ай бұрын
I recently got back my first CGC submission (August 2024). One of the books was an ASM #252, 9.6. I don’t see any warping. However, I noticed with one or two other books, there was a slight but noticeable bend near the middle of the spine. It seems to me that the vacuum seal of the inner well is at least partially responsible for some of the damage.
@Kid-Comics3 ай бұрын
Wow! I never have seen such poor quality control! Never thought that with all the banana gate stuff going on that there is a case this severe!
@SilverGoldComics3 ай бұрын
Not sure who is more brainwashed... people who still send books to CGC, or people who believe crime is down in the USA? Sorry for your loss, CGC destroyed some of my books years ago, and I'm talking ASM #1 & TOS 39. They ruin your books, but still give it a high grade so that removes them from any responsibility. But if I bought that ASM 9.4 from you, I'd promptly return it. If books inside CGC holders don't honestly match the grade, I don't want it.
@arronbrueske67593 ай бұрын
If they don’t arrive bowed, they will most likely arrive with scuff marks, blemishes, scratches, interior debris, or Newton Rings. I’m at that point of stopping my grading with them. It’s some of the worst quality control I’ve ever seen out of any company I’ve worked with in or out of the industry.
@timtyler89113 ай бұрын
Stop giving CGC your money. Problem solved. They are the only ones making money in the comic business....at your expense.
@ArtbyAries3293 ай бұрын
Same thing just happened to my walking dead #1 book i just got back
@mechanikjoe3 ай бұрын
I only have one graded book, it's from CGC, and I just went to check it after this video. It is warped, albeit not as bad as the ones shown in this video. Absolutely crazy that a company meant to preserve these books would be ok with this. But that's why they have the reputation they do now I guess. Glad I only bought one graded book, I will stick to raw from now on.
@christopherlacher35443 ай бұрын
Lucky it is not me cause id be getting in my car and taking a drive to Florida. And i wouldnt leave till my shit was fixed
@Tony-rz4ks3 ай бұрын
go ask for your money back or sue for the terrible work
@guygardner83084 ай бұрын
Raw is God!
@guygardner83084 ай бұрын
I am done with slabbing. I assess my grade. If you disagree, lets negotiate.Screw their fees
@justdreamofyou4 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I glad this is happening as someone who (( Read)) And collect the comic book for pure enjoyment And I have read all the comics books I ever bought. Which is close to 10000?. All the so-called collectors and speculators deserve this s*** you Destroyed the hobby
@rumblehat43574 ай бұрын
Maybe instead of “within tolerance,” they meant “with intolerance.”
@thecomickeeper51274 ай бұрын
They probably only stopped using those wells when they ran out of their current supply😅 now they are using the one size up .
@grumpy_guss4 ай бұрын
I only trust CBCS to grade and handle my comics. Best slab in the industry too!
@fourcolorschi29254 ай бұрын
your being purposely obtuse. They arent going to continue to use the smaller wells because they dont want to hear the whinging
@MakeRoomCollectibles4 ай бұрын
@@fourcolorschi2925 Oh okay. Must be true because you said so.
@Mr_Rob_otto4 ай бұрын
A company damages your books in the process of performing a service that you’re paying them for, and you have a legitimate complaint, and your take away is that these consumers are whiners. That’s honestly just an idiotic comment to make. Why are you defending this poorly run company? Is it because you enjoy when corporations screw over paying customers?
@dustypettes29274 ай бұрын
If a bend in a comic doesn't affect grade why don't they give bent comics 9.8s?
@nabzy284 ай бұрын
Grading companies are a complete scam. Just grifters in it for as much money as people will throw at them. PSA is the exact same. Send a card in 3 times and get a different grade every time.
@dmt024594 ай бұрын
Poor CGC Mike is right! Your pointing out of the contradictions is spot on! And the letter from CGC Mike is a missing part of the puzzle. Since you have access to the CGC boards, please look up dmt02908 "CGC QC Warped Inner Cases." It may or may not be available at this point since I let my membership lapse, but there are so many issues, in addition to the inner well issue, that I bring up there. I saw a recent video where somebody traced the problem back with their own submissions to a couple months last year, but my post is dated last year (2023) and discusses this and other problems with books that were submitted to CGC the previous year (2022).
@spinetickspressing4 ай бұрын
2:36 "Well I hope you liked that 25 years while it lasted!" Fabulous video my friend!
@ObiShinobi-bg2tk4 ай бұрын
It's not just a slight curve; it's wrinkled! Im using cbcs going forward. I even sent books to pgx to prove how against them Iam. Great video!
@joyofcardboard32304 ай бұрын
Holy crap! I'll be honest, when I first starting hearing rumblings of this problem I was thinking to myself people are over reacting there's no way books are bending enough to be damaged. But now that I'm seeing some of these videos where people like yourself are showing the damage... Just wow. This is some major BS. I get it, mistakes happen in design and manufacture... But any halfway decent company would own up to their mistake and make it right. HOW CAN THEY LOOK AT YOUR BOOKS YOU SENT BACK AND SAY THAT'S OK????
@nicholaspreston44174 ай бұрын
What the fuck!?! 👀
@briancolyer49474 ай бұрын
Dude, you need to send this video to the CGC CEO and see what he thinks “within tolerance” is.
@MrScroogedmcduck4 ай бұрын
Have you read any of these comics? Im 63
@ron26444 ай бұрын
It’s just like everything nowadays they charge more money and you get crappier product and service!
@matthewcholock16044 ай бұрын
I have never and will never understand people submitting books to be graded by strangers instead of just grading and protecting it themselves.
@lascruces-vh4oe4 ай бұрын
That's hard to watch...
@tufferguy56514 ай бұрын
like listening to the news when your eyes tell you different. Quit using the crooks.
@duchovny24 ай бұрын
All the proof you need to stop getting comics graded
@jumpmaninspired4 ай бұрын
We need a legit company to grade comics. Doesn’t make sense. Coins and sports cards have great grading service but comics have to deal with CGC and for some stupid reason CBCS doesn’t sell for anywhere near the same price as CGC.
@MrChad6764 ай бұрын
Wow. I'm terribly sorry to see that happened. Thank you a million times for sharing this. I've heard of it but haven't seen real examples
@MakeRoomCollectibles4 ай бұрын
@@MrChad676 Thank you and you're welcome!
@billjackson-mk7fw4 ай бұрын
Wow WYF we pay them to mess up our books ! I only have 3 slab and raw is what I will like to buy !So sorry dude wtf
@MakeRoomCollectibles4 ай бұрын
@@billjackson-mk7fw Seems like it!
@dmt024594 ай бұрын
I've received hundreds of books from CGC with this and/or other problems. Additionally, I had many issues with CGC not taking my concerns seriously all the way up to the president. Another KZbinr did a feature on my situation with CGC: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6HSnoCOaaZgrbMsi=S99vMwaHtxd84zvi PS I let my CGC Elite membership lapse this February.
@MakeRoomCollectibles4 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, seems to be a trend with CGC.
@dmt024594 ай бұрын
@@MakeRoomCollectibles how about a class action lawsuit?
@MakeRoomCollectibles4 ай бұрын
@@dmt02459 I'm honestly surprised there hasn't been one yet.
@dmt024594 ай бұрын
I had to write off a couple thousand dollars worth of books on my taxes last year because of these issues. I currently have about seventy books still in the CGC cases that I don't feel comfortable putting on the market. How CGC can reconcile doing so is a serious problem. Just so you know, I went to the CGC boards with my complaints about the inner wells and got very little response despite how many photos I posted and how thorough my explanations were I am particularly grateful for your video because it confirms what I've been trying to convey to both the CGC staff and administrators and other graded comic book collectors for the last three years. I don't know if there's a problem with the way they're sealing the inner walls or how they play placed in the hard shell case, but my theory is that the soft plastic is temperature sensitive. Like any other collector, I can climate control my encased comic books once I have received them. However, there is no temperature control in the transit process between Sarasota and where I live or any other customers live. I recently had to turn down an eBay order for two graded books because the shipping destination was Las Vegas, where the temperature last week was 107 degrees. Even though I have pointed out the temperature sensitivity issue to the people at CGC, including one representative who was speaking on my behalf with Matt, the president, directly, they neither confirmed nor denied what appears to me to be a fatal systemic flaw. The problem is that the books, many of which are 9.4, 9.6, and 9.8, have a flawed presentation at their best (including upturned corners, spine creases, bubbling, warping, and Newton rings), and are damaged at their worst. My feeling is that there are grounds here for a class action lawsuit. But, up until tonight, I had no real evidence that anybody was experiencing a similar level of frustration with this issue as me. The best I could do so far, being alone in this, has been to raise awareness wherever I can and do my level best to make sure that CGC never receives another dollar from me. As I said, I dropped my elite membership in February 2024.
@MakeRoomCollectibles4 ай бұрын
@@dmt02459 Oh wow, that's insane. I'm so sorry to hear that, but thankful for you sharing your story. Know that you are not alone in your anger and frustration as many feel the same way. And know that more and more people by the day are finding out about this. Hopefully CGC does something, doubtful any of us will recoup damages, but at the minimum, acknowledge their error instead of making us feel like we're crazy.
@dahger74 ай бұрын
9.8 graded. 8.8s after.
@dahger74 ай бұрын
Imagine if it was a Pedigree Action #1
@rogueafett1904 ай бұрын
Damn man, That's so bad, sorry you have to go thru that, just wow...
@ChaosItly4 ай бұрын
I'm checking my past submissions now. Never thought about this. Completely unacceptable and damaged
@stychentyme4 ай бұрын
I don't understand how this happens? Is it during the process of sealing it in the casing? Do they bend it when they're examining it for grading? I don't have any slabbed books myself, but now I doubt I ever will.
@jeremysearls67224 ай бұрын
Damn that is unacceptable.
@elizabethcallery43014 ай бұрын
Your biggest mistake was submitting the books to CGC.
@mattcarper98534 ай бұрын
And yet sheep will continue to extol the virtues of CGC and KEEP sending their books to these con men