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@@33journeyman why does this comment read like it was written with AI?… I don’t think you really grasped the point of the video, bud. Did you watch and listen to the whole thing? Um, no. I cover in this video that it is more capable than 75 or 100 yards, and that shot placement is critical. Really? You think that a 240gr .430” bullet at landing in the lungs and heart at 950-1,100 FPS (225+ yard velocities out of a rifle/carbine starting at 1,725 FPS, conservatively) will take the animal multiple days to expire? Tell that to the muzzleloading hunters that use the same exact bullets in sabot for their .45 and .50 cal muzzle loaders and confidently and consistently kill deer at 100 to 250 yards every year. What’s the difference? And what does “killing power” mean? That’s not a real unit of measure… If you take the exact load data I demonstrate in the video and plug it into any ballistic calculator, the outputs are more than sufficient for the proper dispatch of medium game out to 225+ yards. The Hornady .430” 240gr XTP bullet has a BC of .201 and an SD of .185 - the bullet will reliably expand and or tumble down to about 800 FPS (conservatively). With a start velocity out of a 16” carbine of 1,725 FPS it will not go transonic until around 225 yards, meaning it still carries the velocity and energy to expand until around the 300 yard mark. Will it be able to penetrate sufficiently to kill at 300? Yes. Will it pass through? Most likely not on most deer. Most critically is, again, the trajectory of the round and the user being capable of making a hit reliably and accurately. That is the most critical factor in this scenario, not the ballistics of the round. The point of the exercise in the video was not to argue what is best as a deer round, but to demonstrate that yes, you can indeed make use of the cartridge out of a rifle or carbine at more moderate ranges and it does not exclusively have to be a “brush gun”.

Thank you for the spirited response although I find your ballistic rebuttal rather academic and moot in the lever action rifles. If you can obtain 3 inch MOA your doing well in this platform that extrapolates to 6 moa at 200 yards off the bench under ideal conditions. Additionally a 10 kill zone is rather generous as well again working at the fringes. The old time muzzle loaders were certainly aware that closer is always better but do subsistence living and survival a hail Mary shot was better than nothing. You yourself demonstrated that your a good shot and rifleman probably better than most but with said you couldn't confidently make a 125 yard shot off hand that can certainly lead to a miss or worse yet a guy shot. I'm a seasoned hunter that insists on good clean kills that dispatch the game in seconds rather than 10 minutes or hours. That is what I mean by killing power and if your going to shoot 150 and 200 yard shots there are much better chambering to choose from. Again , just because you can doesn't mean you should do so. Hunting here in Snowy Ohio this week with the wind fluctuating is a far cry from shooting on a calm sunny 75 degree in my tee shirt , shorts , and flip flops. If you still insist on the 44 magnum to be an ethical deer hunting round out to 200 yards I would suggest a properly constructed bullet and a bolt action rifle as well such as my Remington 788 with a 22 inch barrel but they're hard to find. So in summation Bud , I hope your younger viewers take my 75 yard recommendation and have fun while being ethical. Peace to you and yes I enjoyed your video and I think this topic is very relevant to my favorite 44 mag Win model 94.

Regardless of your rude comment... Sounds like the information presented didn't satisfy what you are looking for, or you are not aware of the fact that a chamber in poor condition can cause a high number of failures to extract/eject in any firearm, but especially shotguns. Let's get a few things straight for you: 1) this was not a promotion of Flexhone - BUT, they are the only company offering bore and chamber hones for all gauges of shotguns. 2) You can clean and polish a chamber without a hone, but sometimes a hone is needed to get the job done. 3) I identify in my opening statements of the video that checking the condition of your extractor, extractor spring, and ejector are also important to diagnosing and correcting consistent malfunctions. Maybe you can come back and re-watch the video with a bit better attention span and or ask a polite question for help with what you are needing. - Drake

@@devildog5001 it’s the SiCo HPS 6” variant. I’ve been very happy with it.

@AmericanArmsChannel awesome thanks!

Sorry for the confusion. What I was stating is that no, I had never used a 45-70 before. HOWEVER, I have and have hunted with a .458 SOCOM AR-15 using the same Hornady .458” 325gr FTX bullet that is in the factory Hornady LeverEvolution load for the 45-70. I hope that clears things up. Thanks for watching and the comment - Drake

The gas-block I used on this build is fixed port size and was from Brownell's (as was the upper receiver). FYI, because this is usually where questions like this lead... The barrel is the Faxon "Big-Gunner" .458 SOCOM barrel and ported moderately at carbine-length. I have not had any gassing issues with all of the cartridges I have loaded for the carbine, and the biggest fight for reliability is action spring/buffer weight, magazines, and the feed ramp profile of the upper receiver and barrel extension. I will do another video on this build at some point in the future.

No; I have not gone back to work further on this load yet.

@@apeshitcrazyman yeah, i don’t care lol

@AmericanArmsChannel oh, ok, copy....well, anyhow, have a nice day and stuff

@apeshitcrazyman i’m just joshing you. Thanks for the insight. I have always heard it pronounced the way I said it in the video. Seems to be like how we say “GUH-Rand” for the Rifle but the designer pronounced his name “GARE-and”… You have a great one, bud.

Yes; with Remington .223 Rem brass resized to 25-45 and using 23.3gr of A2200 it was 2,375 average (rounded 5-shot average) without the suppressor. At below 60 degrees F and no suppressor there were minimal to no pressure signs. With the suppressor there were early unlocking signs with slightly cratered primers minor ejector swipes. Velocities with the suppressor also went up about 35-50 FPS per shot. I would recommend pursuing a slightly slower burning powder like H335 or A2230 for better velocities and suppressed use, or equipping the rifle with an adjustable gas block.

I like the G10, but the Mag-10 is still my true-love for 10ga fowling pieces. The more I have hunted with my Mag-10, the more I am convinced it needs to be made again for modern fowlers. The G10 fills a role, and I would not complain about a Mag-10 variation being created to extend capacity and "modernize", but for waterfowl it works wonderfully as it is. Thanks for watching and the comment. - Drake

When I chronographed this loading I recorded an average around 850-900 FPS, if I recall correctly. No pressure signs were found to have occurred. Even though Tripple7 generates higher pressures than true BP, it doesn't even get close to the max pressures of a smokeless cartridge like 45 ACP at the volume that will fit in the case and allow for the bullet to seat correctly. Using a hard-cast or jacketed bullet can change this though, so always be cautious when working up an unknown load. Thanks for watching and the comment. - Drake

Thanks for the note, but I don't think ignorance of or lack of US flag etiquette is a degree of measure for one's patriotism. That's a bit silly...

I have never experienced or read of extractor tension causing a slam fire... not to discredit your experience, but this doesn't hold water in my mind. It wouldn't stand to reason that increased extractor tension, retarding the rate at which the bolt is closing as the higher tension requires greater force to overcome its resistance, would result in slam fires. I am not seeing how that would happen. Stuck or sticky firing pins? Yes, always a culprit. Free-float firing pin designs with a heavy pin and thin primers? Yup. M1 Carbines and M1 Garands almost always have a ridiculously over-powered extractor springs and have free floating firing pins. the only time they have slam fires is on very thin commercial primers or if the firing pin channel is full of gunk and the pin is sticking forward. Thanks for watching and the comment. I will think about this info some more and see where it takes me. Always learning something new... - Drake

Not true, the energy and penetration on a 44 magnum load from a carbine or rifle is more than sufficient for whitetail well past 200 yards. What really becomes a hindering factor is trajectory. Keep in mind, energy is only one part of the equation in ballistics. Penetration and energy transfer are key to effective wound channels to dispatch a game animal quickly.

30-30 at a hundred yards has more energy than a 44 at 10 yards. Talk all you want about terminal ballistics on animals until you try tracking a wounded deer/elk without an exit wound you won't understand how important penetration is. In any scenario a smaller diameter, higher sectional density bullet with more velocity is a better choice for hunting med/large animals. But this test makes for interesting youtube. I watched it. and gave you a thumbs up.

Thanks for watching and the like; It's appreciated. You ever shoot a deer with a round ball in a 45 or 50 cal muzzleloader at 75-100 yards? That's about what you are going to get with a 44 mag, maybe a bit better at 200+ yards. Penetration is more than enough, energy for permanent and temporary wound channel is there, so really it comes down to can you hit it and can you put it where it needs to be? No doubt that a high velocity, full power rifle cartridge is inherently a better choice all around, but it doesn't limit the use of a cartridge like 44 mag to 100 yards. Shot placement will be critical and plenty of deer are wounded and lost every year with high-power rifle cartridges. Seen it personally, talked about it with a lot of folks. Thanks again for watching and the comments. God bless and keep your powder dry. - Drake

A drill press definitely makes a roll crimp a whole lot easier and consistent. Thanks for watching and the comment.

I am not sure why Surecycle/Midwest Gun Works (MGW owns Surecycle as far as I am aware) do not allow for user servicing of the product. To me, they are missing their mark. I have also been told that MGW will not service 10ga firearms any longer as well, which also makes no sense. To me, this indicates they do not really care to be in the gunsmithing business any longer. Reach out to Wolff Springs - they may be able to manufacture or already manufacture a compatible spring for the Surecycle kits. Thanks for watching and the comment. - Drake

@ The inventor of SureCyle in Idaho would have sold me one. I procrastinated on getting a couple. I will have to contact Wolf Springs. Midwest has taken over Browning parts as well, not much for pickings from Brownells.

It will most likely loose stabilization after 300 yards or so (but I could be wrong). The application for a subsonic 160gr 6.5mm bullet would be suppressed short range work on pests and small game, or just fun on the range. I wouldn't use it for any sort of work at distance or on large game. I hope this answers your question. - Drake

Glad to hear your example is working. No, thickness of the lubricant would not be a cause of damage to the bolt carrier and gas pistons. That is a temper/material issue and not due to ammunition or lubrication.

Well, they don't really. But there are a ton of people who buy super cheap guns and never use them. So I guess they have a market...

Never got to it and didn't see the point as there has been a lot of coverage of the Ruger SR1911 over the years. I can say though, that it has done exceptionally well over 2k+ of standard and +P 45 Auto loads and even 500+ rounds of 460 Rowland using a conversion kit.

I have tried to respond to this comment at least 3 times and it doesn't post.... NO, I did not almost shoot my dog. Thanks for the concern, but not your property, not your worry. Gunner was away and to the right of where I was shooting. By the time he was in the water and working towards the bird, he was still well to the right and under the line of fire. I made the decision to continue firing because I was aware of his position and evaluated that he was safe if I fired again to dispatch the bird. He broke, and he shouldn't have. I am still working on that issue and lack of hunting and time to train doesn't help him. However, he AT NO TIME WAS IN DANGER OF BEING SHOT. If you have never hunted flushed game with hunting dogs, especially rabbits, you know that there is a lot of safety considerations and level of confidence building that has to occur before you become OK with shooting over and or in front of a dog and are proficient in doing so. A situation can go from NO SHOOT to SHOOT to NO SHOOT in a blink of an eye. Not your cup of tea? then don't do it, but don't start junk in a comment section that you obviously took no time to consider or think through.