There is no point in playing as the Mongols, they only exist as an obstacle to victory, it would be like playing chess without an enemy team.

I change to Mongols playable but campaing not start. U know any other way to play with Mongols?

We should not confuse Homer's Mythical Trojan war with the historical war of Wilusa. They are not the same. Hittites did NOT play a role in Homer's epic the Iliad and the Trojan war.

Can't stop listening to Pierre Phalese Pavane and Gailliarde de la Guerre! My faves even though I consider myself a pacifist...

Ethiopia in Greek means the country of dark skinned people and is referenced already in Homer. If the ignorance of the authors of this video on this topic is a sign, you can ignore all the rest of the "historical truths" it purports to report.

Is it just me or is cavalry very useless in this mod beyond running down fleeing units? :)

There is archaeological evidence now of large Electromagnetic spikes which coincide with the collapse of the Bronze Age.

Very sorry to hear that your hand got injured, hope you can fully recover soon!

Unfortunately all the links i could find have a corrupted file that prevents installation. Something to do with the Papal Election i think. I used to have this mod many years ago and it's great, shame no one will re-upload the files. It's not just a problem for me but for many others.

Does the game end at the end of the thirty years or does it just end the game proper and you can continue on after that?

I can't get this mod to work

I can't get this mod to work.

Just look at our world today and imagine what would happen if you no longer had 3 meals a day. People would fan out in all directions but due to the lack of food, total societal collapse will happen. Even if farmers started over, it would take at least a season before anything was harvested, meanwhile people starve after about 1-2 weeks.

Medieval 2 mods are far too difficult to download.

War-torn times and places often produce great art, ironically. More recently, look at the art (modernism) and music that was produced before, during & after the 20th century World Wars & the Vietnam War-era...

Great Video! You picked up a subscriber!

how did i take this long to find this gameplay? Amazing format my dude.

all of you get it wrong it is so obvious when you fail by adding modern day borders as the ancient ones did not fit where current border are realize this fact.

Audio would have been better

Trident at the Principality of Kyiv ❤

Well done! I will subscribe. Thank you. Nice visuals and verbal descriptions!

hey, got another question. so I've been playing this off and on, and i decided to try a Sweden campaign myself. at some point an event fired, something along the lines of "Sweden regains control of Riga" which spawned in a Swedish army near Riga. the problem is that Riga is held by the Protestant Union, and they had no intention of giving Riga away for any amount of money. did this happen in your campaign? If it did, how did you deal with it? i'm thinking i'll probably have to just disband the army. also, why is Riga not part of either Poland-Lithuania or Sweden to begin with? that seems strangely unhistorical but maybe there's something i don't know...

The war of troy was for the Achaeans probably the most important event ever, and it's not for nothing. Probably the father of Agamemnon started the war, but died or something. Then as peace treaties were being established, Paris kidnaped Helen and the war became even bigger. They raided the Mediterranean coast, and as it became lucrative other minor allies joint. No ship no soldiers to protect your cities ? Haha Crazy times. 10 year of total war from the Achaeans weakened their ennemies but also them self. Dorians came to fill the void, the rest is history.

Could the sea people have been Ionians and Dorians?

how have i not know about this sub-mod until now T^T???..... wait seriously? the difficulty setting doesn't effect how smart the ai is? it only effects how aggressive it is at attacking other nations??... so does that mean that easy ai difficulty will still be equally as challenging to play against just in a different way because they will have larger and or more powerful forces built up to defend their settlements?.... WHAT?! THEY REMOVED THE SPECIFIC UNIT TYPE RETRAINING LIMITATION? WHYYYYYYYY that may make me want to stick with 2.4 then , can't i still have the new 2.5 buff and shine scripts added to the campaign for variety while keeping the base broken crescent mechanics??.... also there's since been an update patch made that fixes the mongol ai being broken "Hi All, Just a small patch for the 2.5 release. Fixes the Mongol invasion Crash and Elephant Mercenaries crash that can occur. " >what's going on with the units here? are they using diamond tipped spears and shooting golden arrows??? hahahahah yeah it does feel like that sometimes at least XD

This video is as ancient as the renaissance itself

Was this a real battle?

And I thought Hitler was a Hittite.

well ....i you want to learn about Ancient History first you have to forget the word "greece" !

This mod is the Total War game we have wanted for years! Who needs CA when excellent modders exists! Have had me many a battles in this mod, extremely good work!

There any book of this history?

It seems incredible and nearly impossible for a group like the "sea peoples" to sack all of those powerful cities

What city is at 22:02?

I favour the hypothesis that the Achaeans attacked Troy in order to control the Strait of the Dardanelles - stupidly not realising that the Trojans had developed a large network of allies, familial connections, and trade relations across the region, upon which control relied. Once the Trojans were defeated, the Achaeans plundered the wealth of the city, which didn't give them enough capital to maintain the same kind of military force to guard the Strait - at which point, the peoples around the Black Sea who were being displaced by drought advanced southwards, easily overwhelming the Achaean guard on the Strait, and pushed into Asia Minor and Mycenae. This in turn destabilised all those kingdoms, causing many of them to collapse and be overrun. Some Achaean city-states may have already committed much of their resources in alliances with other Mediterranean states to assault and then resettle parts of Egypt and Canaan - and with their ships and warriors absent, their ports may have been easily taken by the Dorian invaders. Or the Dorians contributed pressure that motivated a mass relocation. Probably both in many cases.

Trojan war never happened, it was actually a tale about the wrath of Achilles that was later on enriched with ficticious hollow horses and stuff but miracusly Hittites were involved.

@mukan9 " the sea people" is a generic term for a loose coalition of many different origins, and egyptian Reliefs show them often with ox carts carrying women and children. They were part of a major Migration movement , not some raiders or pirates like the vikings much later. (And even the vikings turned to settlement fairly soon...) . The bronze age collapse was akin to the migrations of germanic tribes 1500 years later that put an end ti the roman Empire.

I never knew the Hittites participated in the Trojan war. All I knew of them has always been tied to their conflicts with Egypt. But now I see how the Trojans would have been a pretty important trade partner for them.

The Sea Peoples were one of the Main factors. They not only were looking for New Lands to start over on, but they were looking wealth as well.

An old name for Troy was Illios, the reason Homer's story is called the Illiad. An alternate name for Paris of Troy was Alexandros. We actually have a copy from one of the royal libraries of a treaty of friendship between the Hittites and a prince Alaksandus of Wilusa. It is an interesting coincidence at the least.

you leave out the united kingdom of Israel on your maps Egyptian sources of the time use that name....

So, in just 10 years whole civilizations collapse?. I fear that we are in modern times in even more precarious Situations than them, our ability to recover from a targe scale collapse is probably not the same as theirs with more simpler societies.

From what game/mod is the video from

The archaeological , historical, *and* literary problem with your theory is that the Achaeans/Mycenaean Culture end up appearing as *both* the perpetrators of the great Bronze Age Collapse *and* as *victims* of that collapse…For in Homer, for example, Nestor, an Achaean helping besiege the Hittite vassal-state of Ilium, is the king of *Pylos,* an Achaean/Mycenaean citadel/port/city we know from archaeology to have been sacked during the Bronze Age Collapse (like *every* major Mycenaean site). Perhaps you should not be so dismissive of the idea that the so-called “Sea Peoples” were at least partially responsible for the Collapse. We know there had been drought and famine throughout the Mediterranean basin in the last yrs of the Bronze Age; we also know from Egyptian texts from the reign of Pharaoh Rameses III (who defeated the Sea Peoples in the Nile Delta) that the “Sea Peoples” were actually a loose confederacy of *many* different ethnic groups from throughout the Mediterranean who had been displaced by the threat of starvation brought on by climate change. The account in THE ILIAD is doubtlessly a mythopoetic attempt to explain the convulsive and widespread socioeconomic and political changes and migrations of peoples at the end of the Bronze Age, but the text invariably represents Achaea (Mycenaean Greece) as a peaceful, *stable* place from which the ten-yr assault on Asia Minor had been launched, and we *know* this was not true. THE ILIAD additionally claims that Classical-Age Greek city-states not yet in existence in the 13th and 12th centuries BCE (such as Athens and Sparta) sent troops to aid in the attack on Asia Minor and the siege of Ilium, yet this is obviously the fancy of a later traveling rhapsode that was recorded in a later written Classical-Greek literary culture preserving random pieces of a largely lost oral-tradition in the 8th and 7th centuries BCE. It is unwise and folly to try to disentangle fact from fiction in a mythopoetic text such as the ILIAD or from the even later *nostoi* such as THE ODYSSEY. Your etymological and linguistic analyses *are*--it must be conceded--intriguing.

4:31 You lose a lot of crediblity when you refer to "the Hammurabi of biblical texts". Hammurabi is not found in Biblical texts, nor was he the author of any flood myth.

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Homeros doesn't mention Hittites isn't it interesting ?

You shoud read David Gemmill's Trojan series ,fantastic read.

I get the impression that perhaps the Sea People were pillaging Achilles and his ilk.

The hitties are ancient greeks from Crete !

1.25X speed is perfect