Pretty sure goku said during the top tournament that he didn’t fully master it an once before that

I agree, it does depends on who’s wielding the transformations. When goku black went ssj or ssj2 it was far stronger than when goku use those form. goku black even said he found away to tap into the true potential of a sayian power for each forms. Than you have trunks, when trunks unleashed his ssj 2 berserker on Goku black it was like a hyper version of a ssj 2

Funny how all these Goku fans won't accept that Goku isn't perfect. Fact of the matter is that Goku trains to win a fight, while Vegeta trains to surpass Goku. Ergo, if Goku achieves a new transformation, Vegeta is going to train to achieve that same transformation...and then attempt to surpass it. It's that simple.

Stupid u lost me on this one man your literally trying to fit head cannon into your own delusional depiction of what is the actual story

The reason why Vegeta never used ss3 was cause it drains a lot of energy

Dude, it's a plot hole...not rocket science.

Ss3 is a crap form . Goku knows the weaknesses.

We will know when Goku goes SSJ3 in diama

It's because trunks is a hybrid he surpasses kakarot in super saiyan 2.

Goku could had easily stacked god ki on ssj 3 by mastering it. Same something xeno black did ssj 3rose

I feel like at this point, fuck the bull shyt, they should train in all their forms like they did during the cell arc, and master each form as they go! At that point i doubt they would have any ceiling at that point! And if they did find a ceiling it would be easily broken, and easier to master at that point!

Goku would go SS3 Blue, but Sega would file a lawsuit

Power scaling is the dumbest shit in the world people just need to enjoy the ride.

Bruh stfu u sound stupid bruh, vegeta ssj3 look like that because akira wanted the ssj3 hair style to look like the original concept

the artist be like drawing ssj3 in pain in the ass better change it so it easy to draw dragon ball fans it master ssj3 thats why artist change

SS3 used to be the pinnacle of power, which is why it’s power drain made sense. Then later transformations came along that offered more power without any drawbacks which just makes SS3 look ridiculous in hindsight What’s even ridiculous are moments when the more energy efficient SS2 surpasses SS3

Reason…Because they seen raging blast and hero’s steal already made concepts…So they wanted to be unique and original for Vegeta …Simple as that

Let's be real... Goku will never master any forms after buu.. this is how they write Goku nowadays. Give em new form but with unstable strain bs and inferior to any way. Broly is way better.. his form in raw is OP af. Broly is the strongest by a mile when it comes to the same form of SSJ. Yah they can go SSJ2 = to Goku SSJ3 Broly SSJ = / more than SSB.

Dude its just because hes a child and hes younger than gotanks in that form

I still like Goku’s design more than Vegeta’s It’s far more unique and iconic

I find it weird they never mastered SSJ3 when God is harder to control

You know what makes this video stupid Goku litterly being the damn first sayaian to get to ss3 lol clearly its his own transformation

The design change is a bigger topic of conversation than if they had revealed ssj3 the way people expected , It was important promotionally to do something new with something iconic and old I think the lore reason that is a more mastered version, Is just the cherry on top

Vegeta's ssj 3 hairstyle is lazy Drawing 🗿

Bro is onto nothing lol

This is basically beast gohan hair but super saiyan so that means beast gohan is ssj3

I think this video is just pretty pointless, the different styles are design decisions, the daima version of ssj3 was made by Toriyama, the other one wasn't. The SSJ3 from DBZ was supposed to look like more and isn't hinting towards any mastery, not sure why building up that much when we already have statements from toriyama saying that. Makes me wonder if this videos puprose is soely for clicks lol

QUESTION IF ITS A ADVANCE FORM CAN WE SAY THIS IS SS4. I ONLY ASK BECAUSE THINK ABOUT SS1 & 2 SS2 IS A MASTERED FORM OF SS1 SO IF THE LOGIC IS THE SAME FOR SS3 CAN WE SAY THIS TECHNICALLY SS4 AND NEW FORM BEYOND WOULD BE SS5 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I mean it only make since 2 me why roshi say vegeta ss2 was stronger than gokus ss3 in battle of God's

It's just not to make him a clone to each others you see gotenk's that's what will he looks like when toriyama still follow the trends. Don't make it so complicated.

Naaa ya all tripping bruuh lmaoo they do not want goku and vegetas transes just look at damn dbsuper ui ue like bruuhh you cant really b this thirsty for content on some bs without no facts or real info

Ssj3 vegetas design was based of toriyamas original ssj3 design for goku, nothing more than that...

Considering transformations still have the same multiplier regardless of who's using it, the fact Trunks in 2 is equal to 3 in terms of raw power would mean his base is higher than Goku's at that point

Could be a grade system as well like ssj grade 2 it could be ssj 2 grade 2 hair is not as long as ssj3 closer to ssj 2 but it’s getting closer

you also have to consider Goku isn't as good as Vegeta in Ki control we have seen this in the Buu saga were Goku Stated he can't maintain it for to long knowing this it's Possible to Say Vegeta didn't master Super Sayin 3 it's more like a Hybrid Transformation of Super Sayin 2 and Super Sayin 3 because of that aura he had in Dragoball daima so a Super Sayin 2.5 maybe ?

That makes perfect sense. Considering that gohans, strongest form during that time wasn't super at all. I always consider gohan ultimate form as base power up. I like that trunks has a ss2/rage that's on par with ssb

Bcuz goten literally has gokus haircut and it’s more likely to assume that the fusion uses that hair style

because its toriyama og design.

might be diffrent because goku attained it while dead. cant really master the problems of the form if theres no strain on the body. vegeta did it legit....no stat buff from halo.

The hairstyles are different, that doesn’t mean Goku hasn’t mastered it, besides, he’s been in Super Saiyan 3 longer than Vegeta

Besides Akira original ssj3 design Vegeta ssj3 could also be connected some how to his ultra ego transformation.

I thought it was just a reference to the beta ssj3 goku design