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@Initiallyleo
@Initiallyleo 22 сағат бұрын
I think she had a rough life, a phenomenal portrait, untreated mental health issues (and trauma) and a sad end. I don’t idolize her at all, and I wouldn’t put her on any list of good rulers or influential people, but I don’t hate her. Like a lot of us, she tried and didn’t always succeed. I think parts of her story resonate with a lot of people, which makes them want to put her on a pedestal these days, but that’s not her fault, and seeing ourself in parts of her life isn’t inherently wrong.
@CheyMo-f5s
@CheyMo-f5s Күн бұрын
Never knew she sucked like this 😬😬
@namjooning9290
@namjooning9290 Күн бұрын
as an austrian myself ( born and raised in vienna ) i can promise you guys no one here gives a shit about sissi. we obviously lern about her but she didn't have the impact on our history that tourists believe she did. matter of fact ask any austrian child about her and they can barley name 5 things about her. all of the info i know about her came due to me eing an obsessed child and adoring the austrian royals ( which is more than wrong, they were some of the most vile people to have ever ruled over this country )
@Acpb_42
@Acpb_42 Күн бұрын
Tbh I hate those people to says that they want to live like her (Based on some of the comments) and idolizes her life but jn reality they wouldn't want to be in her place as she was literally forced to marry at such a young age and became a mother and got separated away from her baby. But even so she still had flaws like many others like for her not being a good empress and also not beeing that kind of a good mother I honestly pity her for having that kind of life.
@blaquerose121
@blaquerose121 Күн бұрын
I like you acknowledge that in history we have a tendency to blame one or the other and try to give a relative gray view of her while acknowledging her flaws. She was extremely narcissistic and self centered, however in other ways you can sympathize with her situation but it doesn’t excuse 90% of her actions. But, for the ones that did suck we should take a moment to remember this wasn’t a demon, she was a person.
@mcake1234
@mcake1234 Күн бұрын
You're yelling into the microphone.
@lc9245
@lc9245 Күн бұрын
Pretty strange that my mother, a feminist who managed a business staffed with almost exclusively women, bar 1; upon watching Corsage, made essentially the same critics of the Empress. In making the Empress a feminist icon, they accidentally exposed her biggest flaw: self-obsession. It made me wonder if the media maker heads have gotten too big that they could not see how their own creation backfire on their message. Perhaps being honest and easing off on the lecture would deliver the message much better. Making the Empress self-obsession and mercurial nature more obvious and a central piece would be more empowering to the movement, than giving middle finger to the patriarchy.
@KiNgSaRcAsMoNe
@KiNgSaRcAsMoNe 2 күн бұрын
First off, I am a German. I have lived in England for two decades. I understand a lot of viewpoints, especially regarding the war, from quite a few different perspectives. Some “research” in this, tbh, seems more like poor conjecture. But I do like the work you put in. In regards to “how” people could be loving parents and “monsters” at the same time, well these things are happening right now, pretty much everywhere. Look at the hate (especially against Japanese) being taught in China, Gaza, many uk mosques, south’s Africa etc etc etc but many people still have families and kids that they love DESPITE teaching hate and murderous intent as well as the teaching of one’s superiority (boy haven’t we heard that before AND how it ends???) The world, sadly, has lost the plot (well the people on it that is) Oh well….
@kawaiibun846
@kawaiibun846 2 күн бұрын
I enjoy listening to historical content while I go about my daily life, but when listening to this I had to stop and watch to the very end. Unable to stop hoping for a happy ending, I cried through a lot of the later half. Thank you for sharing this, a very important reality reminder of all the people who went through something similair. I admire your hard work on this video, while a tragic story it's one so important to share and remember.
@ivodora
@ivodora 2 күн бұрын
@@kawaiibun846 Thank you. I cried all the time when working on this project, it devastated me on a level I didn’t think was possible. It’s my most important and precious project to date.
@Death_2_Glamour
@Death_2_Glamour 3 күн бұрын
duh of course she was horrible,i just like how she looked
@totowashere
@totowashere 3 күн бұрын
Oh no
@loszhor
@loszhor 4 күн бұрын
It sounds like she could have used some adderall for that massive lack of focus and habitual loss of internet.
@abeg9715
@abeg9715 4 күн бұрын
Showed up on my feed - never head of her, let alone aware that she is being romanticised!!! But I watched the doc but I think it's a European thing to admire white people who have no admirable attributes/qualities. LOL
@depresseth
@depresseth 4 күн бұрын
it’s crazy how in the video you claim to “not want to blame the mother totally for the mistakes of her child” but then go on to literally blame sisi by saying she should have been a better person or mother, as if she could control a persons ideation. It is also quite odd to give such an in depth chara ter critique which you claim is balanced and shows both sides of her humanity, yet all you do in this video is critique her, call her awful, and make no mention of the countless things that she did that WERE good! This video is extremely biased and it is also quite weird to have such strong opinions on this clearly troubled woman who you never knew, but yet you make claims on the absolutes of her personality?
@AriaDavid
@AriaDavid 5 күн бұрын
This was the best research on her that I've read or seen far. I had known a fair amount of Empress Elisabeth's story and I always felt like something was either missing and or that something was being embellished. And it seemed to me that people want to tell a story of her that just doesn't really seem accurate. Quite a few of these ambitious retellings of her life whether fiction or biography they almost always try and make a Princess Diana comparison. And Empress Sisi was no Diana as I suspected.
@światanime-e4z
@światanime-e4z 5 күн бұрын
Too true, my counry - Poland and specially the region I live in was under Austria's occupation and unfortunately we do know thanks to historical documents what a sick sadistic b word she was. That's why I never watched anything about her, any movie, tv-show or whats so ever because they f lied about her picturing her to be beautiful innocent creature. yes I said creature because she doesn't deserve to be called human being.
@oliviagstory
@oliviagstory 6 күн бұрын
Yikes, this is such a bad take. Blaming Sisi for her absolutely batshit insane mother-in-law's behavior is quite a choice. This video is way too biased and it seems like you're not taking into account any nuance for the circumstances she was thrust into at such a young age, being traumatized by Sophie, her clear struggles with mental illness, etc. I agree that historical figures shouldn't be "idolized" but she represents a complex, flawed woman who dealt with a lot of insane shit. Making a hit piece about her is very anti girl's girls behavior when there are a lot of way shittier people you could make a video like this about.
@ChrisHorse-c8e
@ChrisHorse-c8e 6 күн бұрын
Love her voice
@cynthiafritze7418
@cynthiafritze7418 7 күн бұрын
Mental illness is passed down. Rudy is a murderer
@lemontree8782
@lemontree8782 9 күн бұрын
what if she was really unwell? period pain IS a thing .... that does not seem to even be an option, no she was just weak and uncaring for her people... baffling
@arghavanasghari3379
@arghavanasghari3379 9 күн бұрын
I am glad that finally someone could be courage enough to express her POV freely. I totally agree with the title Moreover my trip to the Vienna was compelling enough to convinced me she was self fish and self centered besides all propaganda admiring her as feministic I could find any ideology in her attitude and lifestyle
@muszaj
@muszaj 10 күн бұрын
her attitude towards her long suffering daughter in law is especilly cruel. she called stephanie "Trampeltier" behind her back because of her "mid" looks. i mean she was only 17 years old at the time of their wedding, she was cheated on by rudolph multiple times, even got STD and as a result became infertile. i find it mind blowing, that elizabeth had absolutely zero empathy for this poor woman, who was generally treated like shit by her own son, and she even bullied her... yikes... she failed to learn anything from her own situation with sophie.
@ivodora
@ivodora 9 күн бұрын
Her treatment of the young Stephanie shocked me. I found it incomprehensible. If there was one person she could have had the most natural empathy for, it would have been the clumsy teenage girl who was married off to a virtual stranger, brought to a stifling foreign court and made miserable. One of the lesser mentioned reasons was that Stephanie‘s lineage was not grand enough for Elisabeth - the empress who proudly called herself a liberal bristled at having to accept a member of the less-important Belgian royalty into her own family, even though she herself had been considered a mediocre match for Franz Joseph on account of her lineage. Elisabeth‘s hypocrisy is one of her most ignored traits; this „free spirit“ was in many ways just as elitist and possessive of her status as her much hated mother in law.
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR
@BROWNDIRTWARRIOR 10 күн бұрын
Tragic figures in a dark chapter that leaves justice at the feet of ambiguity.
@loring4015
@loring4015 10 күн бұрын
Sisi was a child herself when she married and then suffered the removal of her children by her mother-in-law. I can understand how she was hurt and didn't develop attachment to her elder children which is sad.
@Kimberly-cx9uv
@Kimberly-cx9uv 13 күн бұрын
Could you please do Queen Victoria, or her daughters?
@vecdiyilmaz3667
@vecdiyilmaz3667 13 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot for your amazing affort, i like ww2 stories very much which i see in my dreams sometimes as german soldier my self lol
@chrisschaeffer9661
@chrisschaeffer9661 13 күн бұрын
She looks like my Grandpa. Who's German
@chrisschaeffer9661
@chrisschaeffer9661 13 күн бұрын
German women would be pretty but their Faces are so Manly
@chrisschaeffer9661
@chrisschaeffer9661 13 күн бұрын
The Germans look like Americans who ate something Bitter. English look like Americans with Awful teeth and ears.
@chrisschaeffer9661
@chrisschaeffer9661 13 күн бұрын
It's happening in the US right now with Trump.
@JenniferBaker-c4h
@JenniferBaker-c4h 13 күн бұрын
Argentina got a Curse from housing Nazis. Look at what a ahothole its been since.
@theimmortalgrenadier3851
@theimmortalgrenadier3851 13 күн бұрын
R.I.P Willi 🙏🏻
@johannahunderwood4596
@johannahunderwood4596 14 күн бұрын
Very interesting. I've come into this with no knowledge of her. I am though sceptical of any hero/ine, because of human nature, because we all have flaws.
@Shahrdad
@Shahrdad 14 күн бұрын
If she weren't so pretty, she wouldn't be so romanticized. I think the Viennese publicize her beautiful image for the tourists, who eat up her romantic and tragic image.
@tomcapelli4973
@tomcapelli4973 14 күн бұрын
His name is Rudolf (not Rurdorf).
@boogerie
@boogerie 15 күн бұрын
"When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.” THEMAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE
@sarahkimmel5707
@sarahkimmel5707 15 күн бұрын
This is such a weirdly anti-feminist take on this particular woman. There is entirely too much conjecture from the narrator to be historically accurate. Idk what this is, but it’s not good.
@michaelturman1397
@michaelturman1397 15 күн бұрын
naturally, according to the narrator the QUEEN MOTHER ELIZABETH of the UK was the very best.wake up and see what the DUKE OF WINDSOR called her ''the Scotch Cook''. oh, and she would have done anything if the later King Edward VIII would have married her instead of WALLIS SIMPSON. that was probably the reason why she turned down the Duke of York [ALBERT] proposal TWICE. now if Albert would have been the Prince of Wales, she would have accepted his proposal immediately.so narrator before you compare the beautiful EMPRESS ELISABETH of AUSTRIA with the Queen Mother of the UK. do your HOMEWORK
@PatrickMoore-u7q
@PatrickMoore-u7q 15 күн бұрын
yes it was you and your psychopath husband
@joyofcookies
@joyofcookies 16 күн бұрын
I can’t tell if you’ve decided to make this video openly biased on purpose for engagement, or because you don’t care about objectivity. There’s plenty in here that points to her being ill-suited for the job she was forcibly married into, and plenty about her character that sounds self-centered and impulsive. But a lot of your arguments against her are poorly constructed and just come across as petty. I don’t really care how this empress was/is portrayed, but some of your arguments involve current day issues that came across as dismissive, reductive, and misunderstood. - “she even used her period as an excuse!” It sounds like you have very light and unpainful periods, that must be nice. -“it is rather curious how these conditions prevented her from doing everything she did not like to do, but never the things she did want to do.” Ummm yeah, that’s how things like depression and adhd work. When your brain does not give you dopamine to help execute tasks that you already weren’t looking forward to, and then doesn’t give you dopamine as a reward for completing the task, then there’s no motivation to do it. For a neurotypical brain, you’re getting those little dopamine hits all the time for doing those things and not realizing it. It’s what actually gets/keeps you functioning.
@mduke644
@mduke644 17 күн бұрын
is this AI?
@SuperNoname17
@SuperNoname17 18 күн бұрын
The story of Johaan Reichart is really outstanding, he began working as executioner in 1924 ,those who were convicted to the death penalty in Bavaria after June 1924 were executed by Johaan Reichart, after the nazis took power and until 1945 the guy couldn't keep up with so much work, he had to engage collaboraters, after the end of the war, he was himself surprised when the new leaders called him for doing the work that was his own since the middle of 1924 ,and he kept doing his job until his age allowed, then like any civil servant he reforms !!!!
@existentialdemo
@existentialdemo 18 күн бұрын
currently debating making an actual factual account of the situation without relying on extreme rhetorical devices like "well if sophie decided to be happy, why couldnt elisabeth?"
@existentialdemo
@existentialdemo 18 күн бұрын
this video is incredibly biased, so I must quit watching. it relies on biased language, limited examples, AND YET still conveys this was the life of child bride who was forced to leave everything behind against her will, AND her children were forcefully taken from her. She was also literally mourning when she met the prince. Of course she was RIGHTFULLY upset when her children preferred what is essentially their kidnapper. This video has actually pissed me off. Oh she should just "decide to be happy"? who on earth would be happy in that scenerio. 20:29
@megantvenstrup7687
@megantvenstrup7687 18 күн бұрын
You list two biographies in your description. Which would you recommend? I'd like to learn more and was wondering which one would be better to read.
@ivodora
@ivodora 18 күн бұрын
I would recommend to start with the one written by Brigitte Hamann.
@existentialdemo
@existentialdemo 18 күн бұрын
19:46 this is such a dumb take. this assumes that everytime she asked permission it was automatically granted. ALSO apparently she wasn't even allowed to breastfeed her child - like tf
@existentialdemo
@existentialdemo 18 күн бұрын
19:20 have we considered that.........sometimes ppl lie to make others think everything is okay when it is not. it is her first child? what is she supposed to do- get up in arms about the archduchesses behavior??? she has no power