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@blaneahm9891 5 күн бұрын
Wait, Daytona makes a Torin Big Red knockoff? I wonder if they are made in the same factory for much less.
@themessygarage 5 күн бұрын
I'm not sure, but they're very beefy - I had always been a little distrustful of single-post stands, but these are great.
@james10739 8 күн бұрын
Im not sure why you started complaining them and i like the twin grip for the front teeth part but aside from just pliers i wouldn't use them for anything else i just have better tools but im to cheap so i bought the icon and as far as i can tell it is pretty equal also has 5 positions i believe but it may not have been out then
@themessygarage 2 күн бұрын
Did you mean "why I started comparing them"? If that was what you meant, it's because they are called the same thing, and they are very different pliers. The Icon wasn't out then. I've purchased it, and used it during my recent move since the Knipex pair was at the new house, and the Icon pair did just fine when several square-drive screws were stripped while trying to take down a bunk bed.
@andrewcrossman2165 11 күн бұрын
If you know where to look, you can find an equal or better counterpart to snap on, I just cannot justify having a kidney to buy a tool. It's a gimmick. Most of all of their tools are dipped. Antiquated.
@themessygarage 5 күн бұрын
Overall I agree with you, especially when it comes to filling up a whole box (discussed in my "Are Tools an Investment?" vid: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIuxY36pbp2iiaM)
@pdloder 19 күн бұрын
MANN I hate dodgy one handed review videos like this.
@themessygarage 12 күн бұрын
I'm not sure I agree with dodgy, but I'm definitely low-budget. :)
@sammiches6859 20 күн бұрын
My Fujiya pliers wrench made in Japan was only $40. At that price, I'll take the Japanese tool any day. For that matter, they only make a big one, so I plan on getting the 5 inch model and 7 inch comfort grip model directly from Knipex. Eventually, I'd like to try the Olsa and Hazet alternatives as well. The Icons are nicely warranted and acceptable, but I would only buy them at 40% off like my gold Icon ratchets.
@themessygarage 12 күн бұрын
I haven't tried Fujiya yet, but the Ko-ken stuff I have is outstanding. I don't know why Icon chose the 12" size first - I use my 7" Knipex pair far more often.
@GEFELICITEERD45 Ай бұрын
Snap on have the shallow version
@themessygarage 28 күн бұрын
I'm sure they do - PN? Price?
@GEFELICITEERD45 28 күн бұрын
@@themessygarage 209RFSM price $201.30 you have 2 sets one without low profile ratchet and one with
@kenrone5223 Ай бұрын
Hey, posters. Suggestion: cut your vid, review it. THEN TRANSCRIBE IT TI TEXT. Edit the text and remove the uhhs, the ya-knows, the pauses, the errors, the dropped parts, etc. Then, re-edit the vid with the sound tract from your printed text. Now post something that is not agonizing to sit thru.
@themessygarage 28 күн бұрын
I have started to try to do that - the transcribe tip is a great one. I really appreciate the feedback!
@sherrischneider2794 Ай бұрын
I don't want a box review. Show some grinder action
@themessygarage 28 күн бұрын
Fair. I cut up a cast iron tub in our "new" house recently. The Hercules was a beast with a diamond blade, but the size of the Milwaukee helped me get into tighter spots. I'll post that stuff (though it's a bit...raw), but the net is I'm very glad to have both.
@sethmoking Ай бұрын
Just got a set of the ESCO's. How do I insert the rubber pad fully? Pad doesn't want to go in all of the way and there's no instruction. Maybe just set the car frame on it and it will force it in. Would like to get them inserted before that, though.
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
I'd put the weight on it and see how it goes. It shouldn't hurt the pad.
@bowl0noodles Ай бұрын
I have the 3/4" M12 stubby and 1/2" M18 mid T. I ordered the new M12 in 1/2" stubby to go with the older M12 in 3/4. The M18 is much harder to use one handed vs the M12 stubby. Lightweight is key.
@smilin_lin Ай бұрын
i appreciate you making this video, but i watched it twice while stretching and I still don’t know the difference between the two socket series 😂
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
Sorry - I probably should have put the question I was responding to - lol. I think they're both excellent sockets. The Z-series are more expensive, but shorter and feel extremely heavy-duty. I don't think the "regular" Ko-ken set is "cheap" as in low-quality, but they have more mass to work with. The Z comes with a nice rail also. :)
@ToolsMethodsPhilosophies Ай бұрын
You need the nut grip, surface drive, and 12 point. Then semi deep and deep. Then 1/4 and 1/2” drive. Then all that in impact. Don’t forget the swivels. It gets expensive real fast.
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
@@ToolsMethodsPhilosophies Honestly, I don't have close to all of that, and as just a DIY'er (though a pretty active one) I don't think I need it. I have a lot of sockets because I'm crazy, but I could do just fine with my core set - standard 1/4", 3/8" and 1/2" in chrome, 3/8" long (all 6-point) and a regular set of 1/2" impact sockets in standard and long. I've gone affordable on extensions and swivels for the most part, and that kit has been great for me. If I were a working pro, I'd probably feel different.
@ToolsMethodsPhilosophies Ай бұрын
@@themessygarage I agree as a fellow DIYer and I was just joking. Nut grip koken sockets are awesome and make some work easier. Just buy a common one for $10 to test yourself
@411Adidas Ай бұрын
Should I buy a split beam or digital torque wrench? Which is more accurate and which has the least amount of maintenance, error and calibration issues? I want to be able to use this a few times a year and have it be dead accurate every single time. Im willing to pay more for better accuracy and reliability. What is the best torque wrench?
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
Personally, I think a split beam is less likely to encourage you to over-torque. The Icon torque wrenches are testing out to be pretty great - check out the Tools Tested channel.
@srghosthunter3310 Ай бұрын
I'm a Snap-On salesman and Jesus, snap-on has got to have a challenger. Mac and matco just ain't got it. I'm hoping icon can grow enough to drive snap-on prices down. For instance, I'd sell alot more if a wrench didn't cost 75 frickin dollars
@alantorchia6674 Ай бұрын
Why did you make this video titled "why not"? Im watching this thinking you're going to say something negative about it. Now I'm pissed because you just wasted my time with your long winded personal experience
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
The video is supposed to be about why I'm not on the hype train and buying one. The point is a lot of people wind up buying something because it's "NEW!" or "IMPROVED!" and not because they need it. The personal experience in the video was my journey down that exact road: everybody made so much about the big gun (2767 High Torque) and how it was the answer for almost everything. So I bought it. Ultimately the Mid Torque is better in every way for what I do. I didn't *need* the extra power of the High Torque, and I'm incredibly glad I don't have to deal with the weight of that tool. So this time around I thought sharing that most of DIY'er-world can live happily without the 2967 High Torque might help some save a few bucks and probably have a better tool (a Mid-torque that does all the jobs and is a smaller, more versatile and lighter package). Sorry the video didn't work for you. :(
@alantorchia6674 Ай бұрын
You keep saying you got rid of the 2767, but you don't say what that one is?
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
It's pretty well-known as the Gen 2 Milwaukee FUEL High Torque, though I should have made that more explicitly clear.
@miguelmendez4718 Ай бұрын
Great video are you getting the 3/8 or 1/2” ?
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
I'm getting the 1/2". The early evals I've seen say the 3/8" has slightly more grump, but I want access to big sockets for things like hub huts, etc. without using an adapter.
@miguelmendez4718 Ай бұрын
@@themessygarage sounds good 👍
@sammiches6859 Ай бұрын
I agree. These aren't really competitor tools. I just ordered a set of the Snap-On 196ANCF which is the version of these that actually have a cutter on them. I've had the Twin Grips and am interested in getting another pair, but their real competitor from Snap-On is the HJ47ACF FlankJaw Talon Grip pliers. I just ordered those also and will compare them with my Knipex Cobras for now, but probably the best alternative to the Twin Grips is the Engineer (Vamplier if you like wasting money. They are the exact same model except for the color) PZ-59. At that point, you are choosing between a cutter and a Cobra-style grip. I think Snap-on actually offers slightly more with that HJ47ACF model with the cutter, FlankJaw, and Talon Grip plier head, but I wouldn't argue it's best for the money. It really depends on the line of work you do, but now that I've started HVAC, I think the Snap-On 196ANCF and the Knipex Raptor are probably the best combo pliers you can get for that job, and hopefully by next Friday, I can verify that. With the Klein auto-stripper and Klein 11-in-1 HVAC screwdriver, I think 80% of the hand tool job will be covered. I don't even think I'll need a pliers wrench unless the Raptors prove they can't handle nitrogen valves or gas valves.
@sammiches6859 19 күн бұрын
Well, I am back after a month of T&E. I ordered the LN47ACF and have found the slip-joint capability to be extremely useful. I tried to replace my 5" Cobras with one of the 4" Snap-Ons, but I don't think that will last. I barely use the 196ACF because they lack the slip-joint feature and I use the cutters on the Klein strippers. I have stuck with using my Fujiya pliers wrench on regulators and some valve keys because they cover a full range of sizes if volume permits. I also acquired a couple of DeWitt, Nebraska Eagle Grips after learning that they're drying up. I hope to get a full set before they're gone. I know they're also being made for and sold through Snap-On, but they're $100 from them. Lastly, to those who spend a lot of time on long bolts from condenser fan motors, blower motors, compressor bolts, and any other super long bolts, get the Klein Pass-through Socket Set. $75 at Lowe's and I don't have to waste time trying to cut a bolt or size an adjustable wrench in a place I can't see behind a compressor and up against the inner wall of a unit.
@johnny4713ify Ай бұрын
I'm upgrading but keeping my Gen 1 3/8. The main reason is that the 10-pound Auto Stop makes doing valve cover jobs quick. The Gen 2 stops at 15 pounds, which is too much for that application, but it's beast mode for everything else. I almost bought the DCF921 1/2 a few days before the Gen 2 was announced, and I'm glad I didn't. BTW, I also have the same 1/2 Midtorque, but honestly, I hardly use it and my High Torque since the stubby is my workhorse. For new techs, I'd say get a Gen 2 3/8 stubby, skip the midtorque, and get the new High Torque. You'll be covered for pretty much everything that rolls in.
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
Thanks for a really interesting comment! I went 1/2" to give me a single set of impact sockets and to have the range go up to the size for wheel hubs/etc. The Stubby is so short that the additional length of the 1/2" sockets hasn't been a problem.
@johnny4713ify Ай бұрын
@@themessygarage I have both sets of impacts, but the 3/8 gets into some tighter spots especially while using wobble sockets. The 1/2 sockets and extentions are just too bulky at times to use in those pesky transverse engine bays. I do use the 3/8 to 1/2 adapter at times which does give the 3/8 more beans. I'm getting both the 3/8 and 1/2 stubby's this time. You just can't beat the versatility of the stubby's torpedo style 🔋 breakdown to get into some crazy places 👍🏻
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
@@johnny4713ify There are so many low-profile options for impacts that along with the shortness of the Stubby I just can't see two sets. But if you have the room and the tools, it's all good...
@johnny4713ify Ай бұрын
@@themessygarage Maybe for a DIYer, a 3/8 or 1/2 inch Stubby would serve them well. As for myself, I find that I need every bit of clearance possible, so having both options is a must. For example, I was working on a 1996 OBS F150 that needed the water pump and fan clutch removed. I used several fan clutch wrenches to remove the fastener, but no dice. It was so seized that I was literally stripping the fastener. I ended up cutting off the fan clutch and just leaving behind the fastener for easier access to remove. I tried using my 3/8 stubby, but the additional adapter length, while using the larger socket, prevented me from zipping it off. If I had the 1/2 version, I would have had just enough clearance to at least bust it loose. Whoever replaced it in the past used a crazy amount of Loctite, so a long breaker bar and a bit of heat popped it loose. And yes, I do own low-profile Astros and Capri sockets in both 3/8 and 1/2, but in that application, it wouldn't matter because they don't make them that large unless custom-ordered. For me, the 3/8 version has served me well, but having a 1/2 in the mix is well worth the investment.
@donwendling7800 2 ай бұрын
New subscriber, just bought my first Koken ratchet & sockets.
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
You'll like 'em - they make great stuff!
@wIzKid16100 2 ай бұрын
I sold mine to a lube tech, in fact I used the money and pre order the new one and I can’t wait
@sherlock1895 2 ай бұрын
I just bought my second one today. I had a coupon too. Great knife for the money. I still would like to see some knurling on the flipper tab. Cheers!
@clydecox327 2 ай бұрын
Can't do Harbor freight 90 warranties.
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
Then add the longer warranty. Their logic is that if something is wrong from the factory it will show up quickly, and they can save money by only covering that by default. If you want longer, their warranty isn't crazy money.
@victorhoyt4352 2 ай бұрын
The regular kokens are identical to the tone, and the tone is cheaper. They look to be the same socket with a different name, honestly.
@ToolsMethodsPhilosophies Ай бұрын
@@victorhoyt4352 how much cheaper?
@victorhoyt4352 Ай бұрын
@@ToolsMethodsPhilosophiesI got the 3/8" drive 8-19mm deep and shallow set from tone from Amazon Japan for less than the price of just the koken shallow 3/8" 8-19mm set. So, I'd say about 30% to 40% less than the koken depending where you get them. They are beautiful sockets too. They have a beautiful finish, very nice broaching, and are just very nice, high quality sockets. To me, they look identical to the koken set. Not the koken zeal series, but the regular koken series. I would wait for Amazon Japan to get them back in stock because they are much much cheaper than the other sellers who currently have them for sale right now on Amazon. I believe I got the complete set for just under $100, but again, that was from Amazon Japan, and they are currently out of stock from Amazon Japan right now.
@JoseEstrada-ig6fg 2 ай бұрын
Do you know where I could find some carbon brushes and what size ?
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
I don't - mine came with some extras, so I'd guess they're in HF's parts catalog. Go to the bottom of their website and you'll see a parts list PDF to download and a number to call (1-800-444-335). A quick search shows part number 602590 as a carbon brush set, but I'd confirm when you call.
@sherlock1895 2 ай бұрын
I’ve had mine for over a month. It’s a great knife. Well worth the money. Knife snobs will find fault with everything. Shame on them. I highly recommend this knife. Cheers!
@VincentNguyens 2 ай бұрын
how tall are these compared to the escos shorties?
@m1pete 2 ай бұрын
your comparing apples with oranges.
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
You're not wrong. That's kinda the point of the video.
@johnh.heartland7952 2 ай бұрын
I have the Z-series in 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2 - Top quality sockets to work in tight spaces. I wish the markings on them were bigger/wider - Stay Safe
@themessygarage Ай бұрын
Really appreciate the comment, and thanks for watching!
@pauleadams3268 2 ай бұрын
Raise the volume
@louisshirk5027 2 ай бұрын
These are $45 on Amazon right now👍
@CorvetteTrev 2 ай бұрын
I would not try and remove a bolt with LN47's , that's better for electrical, copper, literally ANYTHING but, Knipex is an extractor tool and not great for much else. Totally different tools
@dontdoxmebro 2 ай бұрын
What Mazda can’t that go under? It looks pretty low. Interesting the green is lighter than the all aluminum one
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
Believe it or not just a regular Mazda3. I'm talking about getting to the center spot so I can get both wheels in the air at the same time. I do have aftermarket shocks in the car, so maybe it sits a little more on the springs and is a bit lower? In any case, I'm very happy to have it. The funniest part is how much less noisy and rattly it is than any of my jacks.
@user-xs9cg9ds3m 2 ай бұрын
How do you turn up the volume or it doesn’t have a speaker
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
I legit haven't even thought about it. I'm packing to move, so won't be able to check for a while, but my guess would be it's in the settings gear that's on pretty much every screen (if there is a speaker).
@trevorschuetz1530 2 ай бұрын
What light is that on the hutch door?
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
If you mean the overhead light, it's the Icon light bar. I made a video about my install of it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5WbY6NrjtVneLs
@roycemartin9068 2 ай бұрын
2 totally different tools
@themessygarage 2 ай бұрын
Well... yeah... ;)
@danieldelgado8153 2 ай бұрын
I have one… Totally enjoy it. People will always complain about something.
@jasinpedone3020 2 ай бұрын
$479 on sale
@mubirukadiri4632 3 ай бұрын
What is the difference between mk900 and maxsys 906bt
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
I have to admit: There's currently a pile in the hutch... :( (but I have sorta-good excuses)
@smallish_mk3733 3 ай бұрын
If anyone wants this set, there's currently an amazon seller with them listed for $46. Where everyone else is around $80. I ordered today
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
That's an awesome deal on these!
@TheNDex Ай бұрын
Got these from amazon for $64. These are top notch extensions, well made
@ahawk1968 3 ай бұрын
Howdy. Do you think its possible for two, people to leverage the pallet from the bed of a Honda ridgeline? (Same 56" series 3 box) Thanks!
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
It would be...sketchy. The thing is legit heavy and tall enough that I'd worry about tipping. The way it's packaged wouldn't love steep angles, either. I've seen some folks do some things on KZbin, but a truck with a ramp is really the way to go, or a really low trailer. And still have a buddy to help... ;) My $0.02. Good luck!
@oviwankenobi17 3 ай бұрын
These koken sockets look to be the real deal. You've made me want to try them out! Looking forward to your next video.
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
I've really enjoyed using them!
@dfacedxa 3 ай бұрын
Yes the self tapers were a poor choice. I assembled this inside the drawer to minimize scratches. Still somehow got a scratch but not losing sleep. This thing feels kinda cheap. After i got installed no regrets on the purchase. These are starting to come back in stock in my area.. just a heads up to those waiting
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
Assembling in the drawer is a great idea...
@BigBear-- 3 ай бұрын
Having the lock on trigger is a must for me on a rat tail grinder. It enables you to either be able to choke up on the grinder for occasional finer control, or one handed operation. Also a must for longer grinding/cutting jobs, otherwise you get additional hand fatigue having to constantly keep the trigger depressed.
@GreggSmith02 3 ай бұрын
What socket holders are those? Thanks
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
They're made by Ares - nice stuff!
@D-Wheels 3 ай бұрын
Middle bar, thank you
@a.k.9425 3 ай бұрын
My upper handle cam is making contact with the moving jaw surface.
@danmorgoshi7598 3 ай бұрын
Suspension work ? . Wow ... must be good . I heard that was made in Taiwan . I need those . /.
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
Upper control arms on some cars (like my Mini) can be really tightly-tucked in the body, so they've come in VERY handy for that. Similar story for motor mounts, where you're often stuck reaching and need some angle too. Not everyday use, but life-saving when you need them. My $0.02.
@danmorgoshi7598 3 ай бұрын
@@themessygarage Thanks ! ✌️
@willfreethemfreethem7671 3 ай бұрын
How do you like it? im thinking about getting it because the warranty!
@themessygarage 3 ай бұрын
I'll find out this weekend when I do the brakes on the family Honda! ;) But honestly there's nearly-zero risk of it being a bad kit. I'd want the biggest coupon possible due to it's cost, but everything looks very-nicely made. FWIW, I've never broken a tool doing brakes - there's nothing going on there that should break anything in this kit.
@bearellie6985 3 ай бұрын
Just get one and see, if they have it in stock that is???