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@hclausse 12 күн бұрын
My dave score on this is a 90
@navalgazingatcampdavid 6 күн бұрын
Yup. I get it. Hull #1 looks even BETTER than the renders!! Thanks for watching! D
@unhippy1 13 күн бұрын
I like the hightech aspect of everything.....how well does it go after a lightening strike 1000 miles from land?
@navalgazingatcampdavid 6 күн бұрын
How well does ANYTHING go after a lightning strike 1000 miles from land. Lol. Thanks for watching!
@unhippy1 6 күн бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid Well... 25 years back we managed to make it to our intended destination with every electric circuit and instrument toast after getting hit 960 miles from nearest land.
@REDUxEngineering-Bottomline 5 күн бұрын
@@unhippy1 WOW!! Hats off! That is some serious old school sailing skill!
@kathytegreene1562 13 күн бұрын
We have been living on our Catamaran (not an Antares) for 3 years. The Antares has such better quality and workmanship than those production Cats. Not even comparable. Watch SV Utopia or Travelsketch if you want a production Cat.
@Paul_C 14 күн бұрын
I think the Neel has one problem: too many sharp edges to bump your head on, in particular when you are about 6ft tall.. What is happening with your sound?
@navalgazingatcampdavid 13 күн бұрын
Hey Paul. I think the new gen of NEEL (52) is looking much better in these areas…and hopefully quality as well. Thanks for watching. D
@Capitalist_Pig314 17 күн бұрын
Is the DC E lightning protector $55,000 or $5500?
@navalgazingatcampdavid 13 күн бұрын
lol. So sorry!! $55,000.
@Capitalist_Pig314 17 күн бұрын
I liked your video again. I’ve made remarks before about hundred percent for triangle needed for apples to apples comparison. In this one use Genoa area versus the Chip area for the Xquisite. I’m not sure why you didn’t use their Genoa so it would be an even comparison between everybody if you did, I think it would blow even the wave away on performance. I’ve asked Thomas about getting polar diagrams and things and he says he doesn’t have them though he does have them for his 60 footer.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 13 күн бұрын
Thrilled you enjoyed the video! Oh if only the yacht industry had set spec comparable standards!! Balance is the best by far. D
@marchuvfulz 20 күн бұрын
Fascinating design. Does anyone have any experience at sea with these collapsible foils, though? Also, if you have the resources to be in this market, shouldn't you be considering renting instead of owning? Hire a boat with captain and crew and let somebody else worry about broken gear and dealing with harbormasters.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 13 күн бұрын
lol! You and Sylvia are on the same page as far as captain and crew. No one has any production product experience with these collapsible foils. Benneteau has done experimental work, as have a few others, but this will be the first “production boat” to hit the market with them. Thanks for watching!
@wrobelda 22 күн бұрын
Would be great if you could make this sheet accessible online (as Google Sheets) and keep it frequently updated with new models for comparison. You can add your affiliate links there, so it may actually make you some money. Some saw other people doing similar thing with e.g. computer motherboards or computer PSUs, listing all models and their specs for comparison and Amazon affiliate links. They eventually become the go-to reference in their respective communities. I would also add some safety indicators, e.g. BSpd Jib, SSpd Jib, and KSI Jib, considering there's been much performance vs safety talk recently. PS. I wonder how HH44/HH50 would stack against these!
@walpt 24 күн бұрын
How much?
@navalgazingatcampdavid 23 күн бұрын
Hi. The pricing is in the specification section. Thanks for watching. D
@walpt 24 күн бұрын
very beautifull and modern
@navalgazingatcampdavid 23 күн бұрын
There is NO doubt. She is a BEAUTIFUL craft. Inside and out.
@chrishamilton2527 24 күн бұрын
Gawd - you talk some rubbish. Obviously you are receiving some benefit for promoting the Rapido. $400k premium over the Neel 43 & you reckon it’s better? c’mon get real.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 23 күн бұрын
Hey Chris. Thanks for watching. Nope. No one pays me a cent. My thoughts on the two boats are based on the materials use, engineering, and performance numbers. Having said that, boats are VERY personal things and their value is based on your application and their ability to do what you find important. Thanks again for watching. D
@ShellyMartz 28 күн бұрын
Why on earth would you not be comparing the HH50 or HH52 to this boat? Or the Kinetic 54? Or the Cure 55? To include the trimarans seems a very odd choice indeed!
@navalgazingatcampdavid 27 күн бұрын
Hi Shelly. Often my choices are limited to boats I have physically toured. Thanks for watching.
@Capitalist_Pig314 29 күн бұрын
Why don’t they give accurate 100% fore sail area? And should they not use half loaded not dry weight? And a lot of them do not offer polar diagrams, and if they do, they are suspect. Balance does seem to be more honest though.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 29 күн бұрын
Love your questions, and voice the same complaints in the specs section of almost every video. I defy you to find the 100% forward triangle figure with almost anyone other than Balance. And don’t even get me started on useable area, storage volume, fridge and freezer volume or black water capacity. Re lightship displacement…well the standard for that is a tad fluid too lol. So there is my rant. D
@Capitalist_Pig314 28 күн бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid thank you. You’re very conscientious. You think about the important things? It’s a shame boats cannot be like cars or iPhones or other products in the 21st century and have a higher degree of reliability. Never buy a new boat. You’ll be doing for the next six months is fixing everything they didn’t do properly from the factory. I don’t know electronic plumbing HVAC boats is just cheap for them trying to save pennies. Or perhaps it is because no better product is out there. On my IKEA 47 I’ve had trouble with everything. The generator the water maker, the air conditioner, constantly have to prime the water pump on and on. I have horror stories with my dealer. PERFORMANCE YACHT SALES in Miami. Never worked with them. Anyways, I didn’t mean to rant. Love your show keep it up.
@Capitalist_Pig314 28 күн бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid one last thing, I utilized Xquisite catamarans maintenance people on my IKEA 47 to do the support that I can’t get done through PERFORMANCE YACHT SALES. They are wonderful xquisite may be the one manufacturer that takes quality seriously.
@bitkong9445 Ай бұрын
simp
@MarcoRodriguez-r4s Ай бұрын
Great videos and informative. On the options for rallying. I have never thought of examining this way. Just a quick feedback as i heard you saying twice. From st helena to Brazil you cross the (South) Atlantic Ocean not the Pacific 😂😂 wish you the best and hopefully you can embarque on such a adventure
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and your kind comments. Sorry for the error. I get a little too excited sometimes. lol!
@Tackling_Tommy Ай бұрын
And THIS is Sylvia's boobs! 😛😆👍
@terrancedick8912 Ай бұрын
Bad camera work,too close and too much movement. Getting sea sick watching it
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Sorry about that Terrance. Thanks for watching! D
@I_dude Ай бұрын
Hi 18:10 Dave are sharing your spreadsheets by any chance. Would love to look at the numbers in detail
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Hey Dude. Send me your email address to [email protected].
@sstroh32 Ай бұрын
Beautiful yacht. I think I’d be making sure those weight claims are in my build contract though. Init accusing them of anything, but f it turns out they are too good to be true those performance ratios will trend toward lagoon quickly.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
The weight can be validated from hull#1. It’s not exactly the same design but certainly close enough. Thanks for watching! D
@jimbeglinger Ай бұрын
David, it's beautiful. Did you ask an AI program to design you a catamran? Now I'm going to have to Google C-Cat 56. Nice. Found you did a video 11 months ago (I'll go watch that now) But all references to C-Cat 56 seem to be 3 years old (with nothing from then to now, really.)
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
I can get you the contact info for their sales manager at the factory. Really nice guy. Thanks for watching! D
@CaptRR Ай бұрын
Still not a fan of Cat's where you have to look through 2 sets of glass in order to see whats in front of you. I know you can get use to it, but if I would be dragging every crab pot in the Chesapeake bay if I drove that thing with the limited forward visibility.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
I COMPLETELY agree with you. Thanks for watching!
@michaelm2683 Ай бұрын
Did this ever make it to La Grande-Motte? I was looking for videos of an actual walk thru
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
No it didn’t. There have been a few delays but I believe it will be in Cannes
@henriquesdaniel6140 Ай бұрын
As much as i love the dragonfly 40, is a Bugatti price.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
lol. That is a wee bit of an overstatement, but I get what you mean.
@henriquesdaniel6140 Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid congratulation and well done!
@Leosarebetter Ай бұрын
Well done, love the comparisons. - keep going.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks so much ch Leo. I’m slowing a bit but not stopping. These take a crazy amount of time to put together and Sylvia is noticing. lol.
@paratrond Ай бұрын
HR have the largest and strongest engine. 175 hp.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
What ever they have, they are a gorgeous yacht. Lol.
@kenlinnington4771 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, well done. Keep up the great work. Thank you.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks so much Ken! Thrilled that you are enjoying them! D
@Steve-qn8gn Ай бұрын
When you say a new mold, I’d like to understand what you mean? If they change the mold what would they do to keep the safety but make it pop?
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Antares interior finish. If they could keep that but produce a modern 48-50 it would be wonderful: vinylester, forward cockpit with through-saloon access, upper fly lounge of some sort, aft cockpit with a more spacious layout. Single, mid bulkhead mounted versa helm with lower position in full shelter, athwartship master birth with full three side access. Then throw in the drop aft swim decks off each hull (Ala HH44). Oh. And a bow thruster and DockMate OEM option for good measure.
@PondoSinatra680 13 күн бұрын
A bow thruster on a catamaran? I didn’t know that people did that.
@Steve-qn8gn 13 күн бұрын
@@PondoSinatra680 they don’t cause they have two engines and you can manipulate them to do the same. Not really sure David has a good grip on function and form.
@REDUxEngineering-Bottomline 13 күн бұрын
@@PondoSinatra680 Hi. Yes,. it is becoming more common. Kinetic offer it and Balance offer it on the new 580. Now, if they would include a factory integrated DockMate wireless joystick it would be perfect!
@Steve-qn8gn Ай бұрын
Checkout the steering and autopilot parts and you will never go wrong with the Antares. You pay for it, but the design and quality sure seems worth it if you have the money.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Agreed. I just need a little more room on the inside and a little more style on the outside.
@jimbeglinger Ай бұрын
Seawind & Bali: I'm with Sylvia, meh. But since you reviewed some dinghy's...I love, that the HH52 has a 12'-5" dinghy space which accommodates the ZerOjet OC350 which is 11'-6" and weighs 328 lbs and holds a 767 lbs max load (3 guys, 3 gals) 👍 Oh, 1190 KSP .80 also good.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thrilled that you are enjoying the channel!!
@Steve-qn8gn Ай бұрын
It would be so much better from a comparison standpoint to be looking at electronics, quality of sails, quality of auto pilot and steering components and the like. Looks and space layout is one thing but relying solely on that seems short sighted. Also, I don’t understand the purpose of your comparisons at the end where you are comparing mono hulls to the catamaran. Can you explain that?
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Hi Steve. This channel is primarily from Sylvia’s point of view, since if she doesn’t agree, I’m going no where. Also, although there is a significant focus on ethics, we do dive into hull construction and performance. The bits that you speak of can all be replaced and/or optioned up or down, so it’s hard to be definitive. Re the mono-hulls…it’s about the ongoing mono/multi debate and a fair value comparison. Hope this answers your questions. Thanks for watching. D
@Steve-qn8gn Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid got it, I just thought it was odd you were comparing to the mono hulls when you said she wouldn’t live on a mono hull. Thanks for the comparisons, they are helpful.
@horecanetgrzegorz5897 Ай бұрын
Beauty and ECO
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. She is a pretty boat, but the “Eco” banner is up for debate. Lol.
@horecanetgrzegorz5897 Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid wait…seeU in Gdynia PL 18-21.07.24 ;)
@user-ev4jt3om3r Ай бұрын
How about reviewing a Seawind 1260?
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. As soon as I can get aboard I certainly will. D
@wolfgangsaller5843 Ай бұрын
informative and entertaining!!! That´s how a review should be! Thank you! I really would love to cruise the Mediteranean Sea with all it´s islands with that Catsmart! The name is program! Greetings from Bavaria! Not the yachts ... the country ;-)
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Hey Wolfgang. Thanks for watching! Thrilled that you enjoy the format. D
@Steve-qn8gn Ай бұрын
What about maintenance
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Hi Steve. I’m not sure what you mean. Maintenance across the brands is pretty equal, other than build quality. It also depends on the size and complexity of the vessel. The more toys, the more maintenance. Hope this helps. D
@Steve-qn8gn Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid yeah, I was thinking that some of the cheaper cats are probably cheap for a reason. Usually it’s in the quality of the materials, appliances, etc.. usually those boats need refitting sooner and more fixes along the way.
@JetWings Ай бұрын
it seems to me with the market right now there's just no point in getting a brand new smaller cat. there's loads of relatively younger used ones out there around the 45ft range.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
I would tend to agree. I personally would rather buy a 2-5 yr old boat, let someone else deal with the inevitable warranty repairs and add extra toys before I take over. D
@randalladdison537 Ай бұрын
Hey lots of problems with bull sharks here lately. Can you do a comparison on some boats big Cats that might be beachable. Or a comparison of some cats with shaft drive. Jessica and Matts boat they are building is going electric and shaft drive. I don't think beachable though. I wonder if dragonfly or rapido might be beachable?
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Hey Randall. Thanks for watching. I’ll have a look around for those requirements. Nothing comes to mind except immediately. D
@pierre.a.larsen Ай бұрын
The Seawinds 1160 lite and 1190 are beachable with retractable rudders, daggerboards and outboards.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
@@pierre.a.larsen Thanks!
@SV-DEDICATED Ай бұрын
Couple of channels are having issues with their brand new Seawinds.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks for the update. Can you tell me which channels? I’d like to have a look. D
@pierre.a.larsen Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid I think it may concern @Tulasendlesssummer and @sailingrubyrose. They have an 1170 #1 and an 1370 #2 respectively. I think their problems are well within the problems you have in other new catamarans. Considering they are so early in the production run of each type I find it sort of amazing they do not have more problems.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
@@pierre.a.larsen Yes. I think it's just new boat/new model issues. Makes me want to only buy pre-owned, broken in and anything over hull#10.
@pierre.a.larsen Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid Me too!
@SV-DEDICATED Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid Tula's Endless Summer and Sailing Ruby Rose.
@pierre.a.larsen Ай бұрын
The Seawind 1190 has retractable rudders and daggerboards. This means an amazing low draft of down to 1'11'' (60 cms) and it can easily be beached (motors are outboards). The reason for so much exposed fiberglass is its very low weight. Even shelves are fixed and fiberglass adding to the rigidity. Seawinds are proven cruisers - Bali not so much. Some cruisers have serious doubts to the safety of Balis with no trampolines. Historically, the resale value of Seawinds is amazing. The waiting time for a new Seawind can be very long. For crossing oceans I would go for the Seawind 1370, 1260 or 1170. For a floating condo the Balis are a good choice. Nice comparison - thx.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts Pierre! D
@bobjohns8914 Ай бұрын
It is a shame that "western" companies choose to operate out of Communist Countries - the Communist Party can confiscate their proprietary information at anytime! Cheap Labor is just that...Cheap! Love your videos!
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
Hey Bob. That’s an interesting point. I was watching some shows on retirement in Vietnam and the same thought crossed my mind. D
@BigHueJanus 2 ай бұрын
Me: looks at title Me: curiously looks up price before watching video Also Me: closes video after realizing how poor I must seam to these people
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
lol! We are all in the same boat my friend.
@Passport-Bro 2 ай бұрын
Don’t live your life trying to convince a woman to do something. Do what YOU want. If she doesn’t want to join you, someone else will.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
lol. The issue is that she is the ONLY one I want to do the adventure with. Have faith in my sales skills my friend.
@Passport-Bro Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid OK, sounds like you are quite certain haha. Tell me what your pick would be for a ~50’ cruising cat. Owner layout. Prefer comfort over speed, but a little speed would be nice.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
@@Passport-Bro Easy-peezy: Balance 482, Leopard 50 or Portofino 47 (This is third only because we have not seen hull#1 yet). Close behind would be Outremer 52, NEEL 52 and Nautitech 48. Thoughts?
@Passport-Bro Ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid Ok, nice list. But Sylvia wouldn’t green light a Neel, would she?! I’m liking what I see from Xquistit. But I don’t like the cuved arch design. Too futuristic. I’m waiting to see if the design will get a little sharper and less rounded. If Xquistit doesn’t work out, IDK what’s next.
@navalgazingatcampdavid Ай бұрын
@@Passport-Bro Totally agree with the Xquisite. Tamas is planning a new X5, based on the 60 Solar Sail, but not for about 5 years. You could always find a nice used Discovery 50!
@Uh-huh-uh-huh 2 ай бұрын
If I had to guess Sylvia's pick in order it would be: 1) Any Celebrity Apex class ship. 2) Leopard 45 or 50. 3) or this Fountaine Pajot Astrea 42
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
Holy mackerel man!!!! You literally nailed it!!! She just recently stated that it’s the Leopard 45 if she is going to do It! How the heck did you do that?!
@Uh-huh-uh-huh 2 ай бұрын
Ya me! (Honestly, It’s the same order I would choose, LOL). Hard to beat the Leopard’s comfort with the open air front door seating area, and that upper deck lounge is pretty wonderful. It’s what I want (for almost half the money a used 2008/9 48’ Fountaine Pajot would be tempting).
@guydavies3035 2 ай бұрын
Why do Americans have such problems pronouncing foreign names. It is quite disrespectful.
@traceysmallwood7489 2 ай бұрын
Cure 55 is an amazing boat in my eyes better than HH that only use USD Cure use AUD
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
It is a lovely boat.
@SV-DEDICATED 2 ай бұрын
Smart channel
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so very much Roger. Thrilled you enjoy it! D
@ItisImarko 2 ай бұрын
Have tou thinking more diy custom project?
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
You really do want to see me divorced don’t you? Lol! D
@ItisImarko 2 ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid actually no. But best if i wrote you short email..if you want?
@Philipk65 2 ай бұрын
The design works. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
I hear you. But there comes a time for an update regardless. It IS a great boat overall. D
@steveturansky9031 2 ай бұрын
Not ideal to load up the amas. Carrying Weight in a tri really hurts performance, especially in the extremities, including the amas.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
Hi Steve. Thanks for watching. Yes. Weight is far more of an issue than in a good old monohull. D
@steveturansky9031 2 ай бұрын
I'd probably like a Rapido 45 if they made it, and if my boat buying budget was 3x. I'd love to do some extensive cruising in a multihull but there are places in the world I'd rather not go so a circumnavigation is out for me.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
Hey Steve. Have a look at the Future Yacht episode on the 53XS. You may fall in love. lol. D
@bos6782 2 ай бұрын
The introduction is hilarious. Love it.
@navalgazingatcampdavid 2 ай бұрын
lol! Thanks so much. It’s also painfully true. lol.
@bos6782 2 ай бұрын
@@navalgazingatcampdavid I have a similar dream, I’m about to be 57 and want to retire at 62. Goal to circumnavigate the oceans. Wife is not on board , may do it solo.