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@circethedeceiver3072
@circethedeceiver3072 2 күн бұрын
Does that mean swift eo just slightly better than spec eo?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 2 күн бұрын
Yes in most situations, but you do have to plan out your Hype recovery well. On 100% uptime bosses like Trial Hanumatan, Spec EO is better though for sure since there is no downtime to sync Hype 0's.
@circethedeceiver3072
@circethedeceiver3072 2 күн бұрын
@@realmonstrata Thank you.
@jamesshroogle6331
@jamesshroogle6331 4 күн бұрын
Hey, I have a 1600 Soulfist lying around still and I'm thinking about pushing it to 1640. Since I'm a returning player and dont have much gold, what are the lowest gem requirements for a working RS rotation and what skill setup would you recommend? Right now I'm still rocking the very old build from before I quit, right after the Illusion Strike addition, running Energy Blast and Bolting Crash. But with my current T3 lvl 7 Event gems, I cant get a second Tempest Blast and Energy Blast into the rotation without having C+J active so it feels pretty bad.
@Ghinna89
@Ghinna89 7 күн бұрын
o/ great vid! Any suggestions for 1660 alts who doesn't have access to ancient accessories?
@LilaLollipopypop
@LilaLollipopypop 7 күн бұрын
Can u recommend one builds for a 1660 SF? I am planning to keep my SF at 1660 for now.
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 7 күн бұрын
I would recommend Swift EO for 1660. I'm slowly pushing my second SF to 1660 as well with the new Power Pass. I really hope they increase our Enlightenment points so 1660's can access the 4th node since that's really where all the fun is.
@LilaLollipopypop
@LilaLollipopypop 6 күн бұрын
@@realmonstrata thank you so much that really helped me and thank you for your videos dude
@PrimitiveYT
@PrimitiveYT 11 күн бұрын
This was pretty fun to watch even if I’ve never played soulfist
@TjallingBlackCat
@TjallingBlackCat 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for your efforts. Is there any way to make Spec EO work at 1660, or is that completely infeasible considering the lack of points?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 11 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, Spec EO needs the 4th node to function since the 4th node is what provides the cooldown resets. Right now that requires 1680 but hopefully they fix that with winter Loaon.
@coltomanderson9835
@coltomanderson9835 11 күн бұрын
Is there any merit to using the alternative T skill in absolutely any of the builds? I much prefer the animation, and might make a sf if there is a build that runs it at no dmg loss. Nice vid
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 11 күн бұрын
The other T-Skill is perfectly viable for Robust Spirit since the cooldown actually syncs perfectly with your rotation. I just didn't upload the clip, but the damage is very similar and maybe a bit comfier because it perfectly syncs. In a 2-minute parse, Stomp is higher damage but if we did like a 10-minute parse I think the damage numbers even out.
@coltomanderson9835
@coltomanderson9835 9 күн бұрын
i've been testing RS T3 force orb setup but can't seem to find any build that works with spec crit, my energy release cooldown is 16 seconds which makes doing 2 cycles per hype almost impossible. but i feel like I can't go CD tripod on energy release because nothing else in the kit runs synergy. Is there something i'm missing?
@coltomanderson9835
@coltomanderson9835 9 күн бұрын
Update: the class is doing no dmg, at 1640 even if i factor in all the progression systems i'm missing, i'm only getting up to 24m dps. That's with getting 2 cycles per hype + T skill + awakening crit. I did all the research for tripods that was available but this doesn't seem worth playing at all pre 1680. Is there something i'm missing?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 8 күн бұрын
@@coltomanderson9835 Oh. I would not recommend Robust Spirit until Ark Passive. Before Ark Passive, the class is pretty bad DPS wise. I was a Swift EO main before Ark Passive and the damage was night and day.
@14TEEKEY
@14TEEKEY 12 күн бұрын
what gpu you using btw?
@DaKazoo
@DaKazoo 12 күн бұрын
ty goat 🙇
@rael7249
@rael7249 12 күн бұрын
atm in playing with spec eo but running keenblunt in place of stabilized, master insted of critical elixir, 3 points swift rest crit, also using zeal for more crit rateand using 2 points in limite break 1 keen sense since i have 1 crit sinergy
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 11 күн бұрын
That's pretty good. I would still recommend running Strike over Zeal. The main reason is that Strike buffs all your Front and Back attack skills even if you don't land them as Front or Back attacks. So you just get a free 32% Crit Damage onto Merciless Pummel, Lightning Palm, and Shadowbreaker for free, and those three skills are about 65% of your overall damage (Rest being T, FO, CP, and Hyper)
@rael7249
@rael7249 12 күн бұрын
Great video my friendo, great... Thanks for all effort
@ayon6973
@ayon6973 12 күн бұрын
time stamps?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 12 күн бұрын
i got u
@lilacstella
@lilacstella 12 күн бұрын
my goat just dropped new vid its too lit
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 12 күн бұрын
When are you dropping the slayer guide
@lilacstella
@lilacstella 11 күн бұрын
@@realmonstrata I can't I gotta gatekeep the real tech
@Maseoner
@Maseoner 12 күн бұрын
I wish I could play the spec EO build with my 1660 soulfist, it sucks that you can't play it untill you have ancient accesories, we got to t4 and I cant play the change of playstyle that t4 "provides"
@donatynogueira1821
@donatynogueira1821 12 күн бұрын
am loving my soulfist RS full cycle with EB the damage its really god and the rotation feels good
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 12 күн бұрын
Energy Blast is solid and I know a lot of SF players who run it over FO. Super safe skill especially since Aegir, and Brel both have fall-death in their later stages. Plus it lets you greed certain patterns that you'd otherwise have to dodge.
@ap9929
@ap9929 12 күн бұрын
Would CD be slightly more dmg than PD on swift? Since swift also runs Ready Attack tripod on FS, would that also add some dmg over spec?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 12 күн бұрын
You can run Cursed Doll and KBW as well on Swift EO with similar results. I like running PD because Swift EO gets a lot of innate Crit Damage and I like being able to regularly see yellow numbers. Might just be trauma from playing T3 Swift EO with 35% crit rate though LOL. From my originally testing, PD did slightly more damage than CD but that was before the new Node. With the new node we lose 8% Crit Damage from Keen Force because we now put those points into Energy Practice. That change does lower overall Crit Damage, meaning Crit Rate is less valuable. I'll test the engravings again at some point but they are all within 2-4%. I am slowly accumulating Relic PD books too since it's the only reasonably affordable book atm.
@ap9929
@ap9929 8 күн бұрын
@@realmonstrata I get the best performance from using CD+master set on swift EO. KS2/OT1/S2 for the evo nodes. This is with EP1/EE2/KF1. Since t skill (+FO/CP) doesn't have a front/back modifier, it doesn't benefit from S2 crit dmg so critical isn't that great, IMO. You really feel the 7% lower crit rate but as soon as you go to 90%+ the difference isn't as noticeable from say 90-95 so it seems like PD feels kind of bunk unless you can get really high crit rate and swap to BT? I also tried messing with OT2+KS1 vs KS1+LB1+OT1 vs OT1+KS2. OT1+KS2 was the best performance for me. Changing to OT2+KS1 allowed me to get an extra skill in at the end of H3 but that doesn't seem to offset the loss of 4% crit rate across the board. OT1+KS1+LB1 worked better than OT2+KS1 when crit rate was very high (94%.) Just sharing some testing.
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 8 күн бұрын
@@ap9929 I think your build is solid too. PD is of course the end-game goal once you've unlocked both Adrenaline and Precise Relics as you can then swap to Blunt Thorn.
@0ziah
@0ziah 12 күн бұрын
Holy why am I never saw your channel before. Thank you so much for all the Soulfist research 🙏
@Mlaaaven
@Mlaaaven 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for your testing, very insightful
@14TEEKEY
@14TEEKEY 12 күн бұрын
thank you.
@dennisbaauw
@dennisbaauw 15 күн бұрын
Is this also viablo at 1660?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 13 күн бұрын
It's viable but your rotation will differ because the 4th line is what gives Robust Spirit enough CDR to sustain the current rotation.
@LemonSeeker__
@LemonSeeker__ 18 күн бұрын
Will you do a quick character showcase?
@teelor221
@teelor221 22 күн бұрын
Im thinking about pushing an RS soonish, just wondering, do you generally find the class fun in raids and stuff etc?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 22 күн бұрын
The build's core rotation is pretty easy to learn, and once you feel more confident, there are more complex rotations you can learn to maximize the number of skills cast. It's also pretty satisfying now, especially since you have 85% crit rate so it's pretty rare for Spirit Bomb to not crit. Going for big Spirit Bomb numbers on Akkan, Ivory Tower, Behemoth, etc... is always fun.
@teelor221
@teelor221 22 күн бұрын
@@realmonstrata Thanks for the response, I appreciate it, sounds fun, ill start pushing it
@hatedsix
@hatedsix 22 күн бұрын
1680?
@ZefMan6
@ZefMan6 23 күн бұрын
whats ur ilvl? the dmg is insane
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 23 күн бұрын
1690 Level 8's
@ZefMan6
@ZefMan6 22 күн бұрын
@@realmonstrata oh my okay ty
@HeusthamFS
@HeusthamFS 25 күн бұрын
And please, would you mind sharing your build? My soulfist is only 1660 still but looking forward
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 25 күн бұрын
www.lostark.nexus/soulfist Check out the Soulfist Community Guide. My build is pretty much the same except I play MI over SS due to my stone.
@HeusthamFS
@HeusthamFS 25 күн бұрын
What is your skin? Chest is the new legendary right? What about pants?
@TyZi
@TyZi 25 күн бұрын
looks like the last yoz's jar pants for sf
@ghosthiro604
@ghosthiro604 24 күн бұрын
chest: legendary, pants: providence
@DaKazoo
@DaKazoo Ай бұрын
ty for the pov sir. was wondering about hype timings. kinda sucks that hype 3 doesnt line up with first wall break
@jasonfang9322
@jasonfang9322 Ай бұрын
I don't see master buff are you using critical elixir for swift eo? Also is there any situation you'd use awakening in swift eo for damage?
@sangothemangoz
@sangothemangoz Ай бұрын
Pumper!
@nicolvegas1996
@nicolvegas1996 Ай бұрын
hi im new to soulfist and im loving its playstyle, currently playing it with ignite gems, and swift EO force orb pre ark passive, what are those breakpoints? im following the community guide bp 2 h2 h3 rotation(im doing it right?). the idea is to always attack with the ER/FS buffs right? are the other skills in the rotation ordered in most dmg to less or what is the general idea of the rotation? it deppends on my gems and cooldowns?.
@coltomanderson9835
@coltomanderson9835 Ай бұрын
Completely disagree with how you ran this experiment/test. A 2-minute parse will never accurately depict the damage of swift EO as in that entire duration, you start with and get off 2x hype 1-2-3s and only 1x downtime rotation. What you should have done was stop the meter immediately after the 2nd downtime or 10-ish seconds before to account for potential boss downtimes. Your first swift test ended at 89mil after 1 FULL rotation (ending right before your hype comes back) and 2nd test ended at 86-87mil. This shows exactly why it’s tragically important to factor class specificities into these kinds of tests so you get accurate representations of class performance. Not just tests that show your favoritism as a player. It’s obvious you like swift over spec, and want to convince others to think the same after watching a video like this one.
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
That's why I included Hype 3 parses first. It's difficult to assess Swift EO Trixion damage because by default its low due to the Hype 0 cooldown. A full H123 - H0 - H123 rotation showcases the top and bottom end of the parse, but you really shouldn't play this class if you cannot sync Hype 0 with boss downtimes. Outside of Guardian Raids, every raid in this game has mechs that allow for Hype 0 resets so Trixion will never be a perfect measure for real raid scenarios. Every class loses DPS-pie value when a cutscene happens except Swift EO. The general expectation for me is that for every two H3 rotations, one H0 rotation gets cancelled via mechs/boss DR, which is realistic for most raids. I would add that even in Guardian Raids. You try to minimize the Hype 0 downtime as much as possible. In Argeos, I typically do a H3 > H0 > H3 rotation and the boss dies in 1:50. My current parse with this is rotation around 125-140m. In a juiced lobby, I would instead opt to do H1 > H2 (full rotation) > H3 and the boss dies in 1:10. My current parse with this rotation is about 150-165m. If I just did H3 > H0 > Boss dies, then I'm sure my DPS would be like 80m tops. If your parse was simply H3 > H0 > Guardian dead, then you've mismanaged hype in relation to the boss, and of course your DPS would be much lower compared to others. DPS is just one aspect of a class's potential. With Swift EO, the key to doing well on this class is being able to adapt your Hype levels to fit your party and the raid. There are certainly raids like Echidna and Thaemine Gates 1, 2 and 4 where you can basically get go H3 > Mech > H3 > Mech > H3 without having to DPS very much in H0. The caveat is that in raids with absolutely no downtime, I have to agree that Swift EO Soulfist absolutely sucks (Hell Hanumatan). To date though, no raid has come out with zero downtime.
@Mlaaaven
@Mlaaaven Ай бұрын
Thank you for the insights!
@HxL-yy1fl
@HxL-yy1fl Ай бұрын
does the new KR buff will make swift better than spec or its still the same?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
It definitely makes Swift even better because now you can reduce the Hype Recovery time. KR testing was able to get Hype 0 recovery down to about 37 seconds, but at the same time, I don't want to rely too much on KR testing because their research is based on KR rotations which are unoptimized.
@davidz5525
@davidz5525 Ай бұрын
Your biggest fan Ginormous*** is here ty for the testing my GOAT
@TyZi
@TyZi Ай бұрын
thank you providing these tests - i was really bummed about spec EO being what everyone used. don't even know much about t4 as a result, was ready to quit xdd
@dice3000
@dice3000 Ай бұрын
When to use hype 2 and 3? Im new to sf
@fwoofytwail
@fwoofytwail Ай бұрын
Swift EO: 0:00 Force Orb Swift EO: 4:20 Illusion Strike Spec EO: 6:24 Force Orb
@XxKillTheGummyBearxX
@XxKillTheGummyBearxX Ай бұрын
Great video,a few questions is this build better then spec EO or is Spec EO even a thing after the changes
@Glac1alWasTaken
@Glac1alWasTaken Ай бұрын
how much pp for this raid clear?
@Aeiyko
@Aeiyko Ай бұрын
Hello, I saw you tried both Spec Eo and Swift Eo, which one do you think would be the best ? Or are they equals ? 🤔
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
I think with the recent Spec EO nerfs, Swift EO is stronger. Also Swift EO was buffed in KR with the new balance patch.
@Aeiyko
@Aeiyko Ай бұрын
@@realmonstrata oh I see I see, thanks for the info then
@emt_gaming6081
@emt_gaming6081 Ай бұрын
when to switch ark passive is better if we play spec eo . And if we don't have full relic Engravings , is that just use Standing Striker and Critical 40 Set better ?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
You can technically switch with 1 Ancient Gear and 4 Relic Accessories. Although it's recommended to wait until 3 Ancient Gear and 3+ Ancient Accessories. Standing Striker and Critical is better until you hit the cap (Relic Adren + Relic PD) in which case swapping to Blunt Thorn and Master elixir provides a higher cap.
@xenky2272
@xenky2272 Ай бұрын
Yo do you want to map Aegir's butterfly pattern?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
I mapped it out on my Breaker :)
@Jahin
@Jahin Ай бұрын
thank mr monstrata
@monkeydtufan
@monkeydtufan Ай бұрын
Hello, where did you set it to notify you when Hype is activated for the 3rd time?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
It's just a Macro Text I keybind to one of my Mouse buttons.
@damaincplays
@damaincplays Ай бұрын
are u taht person who maps stuff on osu cause i always see your name
@binuuu6751
@binuuu6751 Ай бұрын
Will RS still be viable. I was gonna play RS over EO due to a more simpler rotation? Or well lostark nexus states that.
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata Ай бұрын
RS is viable, but Spec EO is just a superior version of RS and the playstyle is quite similar.
@Alpharaohgaming
@Alpharaohgaming 2 ай бұрын
im trying EO on ignite server aswell can you do a lil guide for us ?
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 2 ай бұрын
I do have a little guide, mainly just my notes on Hype timings for recent content: docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTHsmLPJnH2br2EO4lBLF0EKIWYS7iyYpc8fQUeYktyrALhf4eA76UJQnnutvb8o90TB4aXJbTxzAPp/pub
@sydios6809
@sydios6809 2 ай бұрын
Amazing run! How do you usually manage your hype lvl during the fight? trying out EO on ignite servers Keep it up <3
@realmonstrata
@realmonstrata 2 ай бұрын
The general cycle is Hype 2 + Awakening and go Hype 3 after Hype 2 is about to end. Here are my notes for ideal Hype timings on recent content: docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTHsmLPJnH2br2EO4lBLF0EKIWYS7iyYpc8fQUeYktyrALhf4eA76UJQnnutvb8o90TB4aXJbTxzAPp/pub