This should be redone with Legendary Edition footage
@und7ftdАй бұрын
Still amazing
@SteTechGamingАй бұрын
Only discovered this in 2024 thanks to KZbin's algorithm. This is so well done!
@eulaliasАй бұрын
I will never stop believing in this theory!!! Never! 🙏
@gamesthatiplay908310 күн бұрын
That's always the vibe I got. No one knows they're indoctrinated and why would the game keep bringing it up?
@jessekaakkomaki2747Ай бұрын
does anyone knows if there is female version of this same video i want to compare the voices male and female Sheppard
@qqq3862 ай бұрын
13 years later is still an amazing tribute video
@Acesahn2 ай бұрын
This is so much better then the hour and a half plus version another guy created. Its so straight to the point and without unnecessary theories.
@mister_needlesАй бұрын
I hate those knockoffs. We need a true reupload without the audio skips.
@Hypnotica420x3 ай бұрын
This is a huge cope. Indoctrination never happened.
@Tyrik732 ай бұрын
I think after Shepard gets hit with the laser is when hes getting Indocrinated( Basically we are seeing his mind).
@gamesthatiplay908310 күн бұрын
@@Tyrik73 I got hit by the giant laser in that base and it made me game over. Why didn't it game over when I took a giant laser in a cut-scene? Some sort of armor against it?
@gamesthatiplay908310 күн бұрын
The real cope is BioWare ran out of time to make the ending they wanted, so they went with the placeholder we got. At least according to the devs.
@Tyrik739 күн бұрын
@gamesthatiplay9083 Harbinger wasn't trying to Kill You but Brainwash You I think
@wargames21953 ай бұрын
Holy kino.
@nakfoor18464 ай бұрын
I think the indoctrination finale was Bioware's intent, but they ran out of time or couldn't figure out how to implement it in the best way. What we were left with was just the framework of an excellent idea. When the community melted down, Bioware had to abandon the idea and flesh out more conventional endings in the extended cut DLC. The main problem with the indoctrination theory is it doesnt end the story. So you pick Destroy, wake up on Earth.. and then.. the Reapers are still invading. If Bioware intended for indoctrination to be true, there may have been a whole additional part of the game that concluded the reaper war.
@thewildcat79724 ай бұрын
After 10+ years later, are u still alive?
@writerfish50565 ай бұрын
I really enjoy that this is narrated by text and your “personality” is kept out of it
@igodreamer70965 ай бұрын
Still a better theory than the whole ME3 script.
@blueing46 ай бұрын
Thats an interesting thery. But then again, Vigil and prothean VI in ME3 did not scent indoctrination in Shepard. And as catalyst said, Illusive Man could not control reapers, since he was indoctrinated. But Shepard can choose to control them. If the child in ME3 is really a hallucination, i believe the visions are caused by stress because of an upcoming invasion and war with reapers
@cowgoesmoo26 ай бұрын
dumbest idea ever
@falahibaboo15376 ай бұрын
Just enjoying my day and wanted to say Hi again for the 7th or 8th year in a row I guess.
@screwyoubro6666 ай бұрын
2024…vid is still awesome
@256k6 ай бұрын
12 years already since we worked on this theory, THE ORIGINAL indoctrination theory... I hope one day we will have the REAL answer
@KnoxCarbon7 ай бұрын
Maybe the real indoctrination was the friends we made along the way
@TheDogGeneral7 ай бұрын
And here you are all these years later and it doesn't make it true BioWare is the proprietary author owner writer decision maker for Mass Effect they have said over and over again that is not indoctrination and no matter how much you'd like to deny it it's not going to make it not true things as far as head cannon goes doesn't have to be true to be believable it's the same thing with the mirror from Harry Potter you see what you want to see and it gives you neither truth or knowledge my friend you must ditch the denial are red herring or Placebo is not going to make your case
@BladeStrike5 ай бұрын
So you want everyone to be happy with and settle for the terrible endings the devs excreted like you have. You do you. Let others enjoy the greater possibilities of storytelling.
@TheDogGeneral5 ай бұрын
@@BladeStrike I've always gone with what fortune and fate dealt me I don't have to be happy about it but it is what it is and without truth the very essence of meaning of life is pointless what they excreted LOL it's what they gave us and it will have to stand for the test of time possibilities are just that possibilities but it'll never change the ending it'll never change what was.
@robkino61374 ай бұрын
>Destiny logo Opinion discarded. Go have shit taste elsewhere, simp.
@guitarlover427 ай бұрын
This is my canon.
@PrnvP237 ай бұрын
I've had this video in my favorites for god knows how many years. Found it again funnily enough while playing through Legendary Edition. Still the best fan video ever made. It's been emotional
@Srindal46577 ай бұрын
Mass effect is a lesson in manipulation. People who have been manipulated, recognises they are manipulated and applies actions to stop it happening again are the ones who are the most dangerous to those who manipulate.
@robkino61379 ай бұрын
Still better than anything Bioware has done before or since. Keep up the good fight lads, never fall for the Indoctrination!
@JackYOgurl6069 ай бұрын
I commented on this 11 years ago....Im replaying the series now this theory/fact is the best ever. I just have one question...if the ending was all a dream....and it was all just an indoctrination attempt...does that mean the war was still going on after it? The galaxy was close to defeat even without Shepard...Idk...I still love this damn video though.
@r0cketm00se36 ай бұрын
Prior to the Extended Cut ending we assumed and hoped that the DLC would include Shepard waking up after choosing destroy and you would have to fight your way to the control center where you would activate the SINGLE FUNCTION crucible and it would kill the Reapers as intended. Post EC DLC? Here's my thoughts. One of the main themes of ME is that Shepard, as amazing of a soldier as they are, is a mere individual in a war of galactic scale. Your real merit goes beyond your combat skills, its in the way you unite, and develop/mentor those around you into leading. Consider that in a war the most impressive soldier might be absent for the final battle, or a stray round could take out even the most skilled and aware. The reason you don't hear any fighting when you wake up from the indoctrination attempt is that regardless of what Shepard chose in those final moments in their head, their team (who had internalized his message of victory at all costs, even at personal sacrifice) has already won the day. While you were unconscious and presumed dead, being personally targeted by the Reapers in an attempt to indoctrinate their most significant threat, your team pressed on without you to the beam, took the Citadel, and finished the fight. An individual soldier can win countless battles, but a leader can steer the course of history. It's poetic justice that even unconscious, Shepard had instilled his mindset into enough of his allies to spur them on to victory even without you there to guide them. You got them to the 1 yard line, they took it the rest of the way. Or as Garrus said, "May you be in heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead." Even buried in rubble unconscious, the Reapers still had reason to fear the effect of Shepard.
@themoonlitquill9 ай бұрын
I read about this vid on Reddit, and DAMN am I glad I followed that lead! This was brilliant!! Well done!
@Conrad_Verner9 ай бұрын
How does Hackett know shepard is alive? 16:00
@Tyrik732 ай бұрын
Agreed
@timrickert820310 ай бұрын
9:11 Perhaps someone else caught this, but the "have a little faith" comment sounds way too much like how James says the same comment somewhere else in ME3 (I forget where. I think the little boxing match you have with him on the Normandy, maybe?).
@cornpopisabaddude10 ай бұрын
I guess I was successfully indoctrinated then
@ItsaDonut11 ай бұрын
Still the best video on the IT on the Extranet
@Derhone11 ай бұрын
So what? Everyone in the galaxy whipped out?
@olechristianhenne658311 ай бұрын
The fact that bioware we're denying this including EA and other developers have even played all of the Mass Effect series in doctrination theory is very much real and the fact that they are denying this and just pretended like it never existed just go to the shows that there's just spitting on the fans
@Baked25911 ай бұрын
Ikr. WAAYYY too much lines up. The novels mentioning the deep growl that happens when someone rejects indoctrination. Or the Rachni Queen's oily shadow description is what sells it for me.
@cybergothika6906 Жыл бұрын
Vigil was not a VI, he was an true AI, and he always said the word "perhaps".
@kyriacostheofanous1445 Жыл бұрын
What's weird is why is the IM even trying to reason with them in the first place? Why even bother with this scene if it's real? If it's real then the reaper should just kill Anderson and shep
@LoganLS0 Жыл бұрын
Reapers are Commies. Commies cannot be bargained with or controled. Only destroyed.
@Baked25911 ай бұрын
*DEATH IS A PREFERABLE ALTERNATIVE TO COMMUNISM*
@marssavins68184 ай бұрын
... What?
@drflannelxd904 Жыл бұрын
Bioware has said they were too incompetent to do something this cohesive. That said, if they don't retcon the canon of the next ME game to factor this in, they have too many implications from the ending to ever use Shepard again without writing at least 3 different games in the same title.
@CowboyRibeye Жыл бұрын
Does not matter what they say. Doesn't matter if its fan theory. It fits too perfectly.
@majuli8420 Жыл бұрын
Another clue that supports the indoctrination theory is the tone of voice that the Reapers use when they interact with Shepard: When Shepard talks to Sovereign, and later Harbinger in ME1 and ME2, their tone is one of sadistic glee, of triumphant arrogance, a feeling of absolute (almost fascistic) superiority. However, in the end, when Shepard talks to the Star Child, his tone is completely different. Suddenly, the Reapers seem almost harmless, they're doing organics a favor, it's not personal for them. Even before I heard of the indoctrination theory, I found that contrast in attitude jarring. If the Reapers are indeed merely galactic lawnmowers curating organic life in the galaxy, as the Star Child claims, why would they gloat and insult and belittle? Wouldn't they have the same tone of voice as their master, Star Child? No. Their true nature is that in ME1, when Sovereign tells Shepard that for the Reapers, organics are nothing. It makes much more sense that the conciliatory tone in the last segment is just a last, desperate attempt to get Shepard to accept indoctrination and view the Reapers as reasonable.
@dumont7478 Жыл бұрын
We're not saying Garrus is batman, but...
@Davanthall Жыл бұрын
Haha, the ol’ Mass Effect Indoctrination Theory, I remember tha- {sees age of video} …..OH SWEET JESUS FUCKING MERCIFUL CHRIST-ON-A-BIKE IT’S BEEN _HOW_ LONG????
@TrekCZ Жыл бұрын
I would like to know what happened with author of this video though. Why they disappeared suddenly, what happened with them, who is behind that?
@poolee77 Жыл бұрын
This still makes more sense than the RGB ending even if BioWare denies it.
@blueshit199 Жыл бұрын
2010-2014 was a good time for videogame meme culture
@blueshit199 Жыл бұрын
lmfao
@AdromedaJoel Жыл бұрын
This theory is very thought provicating
@funtourhawk Жыл бұрын
Just finished a Mass Effect trilogy playthrough...gotta come back and watch this...love the editing/sound design (besides the audio glitches). Obviously the real ending, playing thru ME3 there's a lot of clues
@Alexander_Gordeev Жыл бұрын
Remember, than it isn't a canonical theory. It can't answer on the all questions after mission "Cerberus HQ". Only old endings (before DLC Extented Cut)
@projectpat8807 Жыл бұрын
I don't believe in the theory anymore. The Extended Cut ending did debunk a lot of stuff. But the more I play Mass Effect 3, it's quite clear that the Destroy ending is the correct choice.There is tons of hints and foreshadowing throughout the game for Destroy/to pick that. The other two options, not so much. The only ones for Control or even Synthesis are villain characters. Pretty much ALL "good" characters are for Destroy.
@etoya4513 Жыл бұрын
great video, thanks! I started to see that this all is fake after removed UI and Anderson's words about getting to the control panel when there is no other way