I don't like classes I can't play effectively without a bunch of macros. Demo warlock in wotlk being one of them
@henrykinney7192 күн бұрын
does corruption snapshot with stuff like it did in wotlk?
@ecclesiaandune6873 күн бұрын
Been playing demo so far but wanting to swap to affli for some fights. When do you refresh dots with procs? If I hit a hurricane/power torrent, a darkroom volcano, a light weave etc, do I reset my corruption, UA etc? Or is that worth less than just shadow bolting
@Eyydrian4 күн бұрын
Would you assume that the spirit/crit prio is as good for 10m raiding aswell?
@doublezug71934 күн бұрын
Yes, POH is still incredibly strong in 10m.
@seanl.16594 күн бұрын
Hey Zug! Can you export and show your vuhdo profile?
@albeshino88754 күн бұрын
How can I make elvui raid frame show divine aegis and weakened soul ?
@doublezug71934 күн бұрын
I recommend using grid2+clique or vuhdo. They are much more configurable.
@albeshino88754 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 any chance u make a guide on using those in the near future?
@subodh_shinde4 күн бұрын
As Disc I’m getting Oom so easily.. might be my gear ⚙️ or I don’t know what I’m doing wrong
@doublezug71934 күн бұрын
Your number one priority if youre having mana problems is to track rapture and try to keep it on cd always. Number two is to press PWS less.
@JMD93_gaming4 күн бұрын
Ideally you're only ever using pws when your rapture is up, every 12 seconds. Not playing around it will find yourself ooming incredibly fast. Otherwise shadowfiending early when your going for some big aegis ramps helps só ur shadowfiend comes back off cd for some of the longer fights. Dont ever use renew. Only use pom when you'll get value off the 5 bounces. Being good about your filler spells like smite/holyfire and let atonement carry during downtime when not much dmg going out.
@subodh_shinde4 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 if I’m using PWS(power word shield) less then how will rapture will proc? I have weakauras to keep track of rapture. I would request you to make the guide on how to manage the mana efficiently. I end up using my shadow fiend so early in boss fights 🥲
@soraroxesventerraКүн бұрын
Try getting enchants, gem sockets, and reforge your gear once you have a decent item level and gear. That will also help tremendously
@sidepieceslim5 күн бұрын
Nice vid. Clean ui possible to share that?
@coltonphillips51725 күн бұрын
Great video, thank you for the guide. What WA’s do you use for TOTFW heroic and normal?
@doublezug71935 күн бұрын
I use fojjis raid weakauras.
@ahetzel90545 күн бұрын
Personally i dont see the benefit of reducing the cd on PW:S unless youre also taking strength of soul but i would never take strength of soul unless youre doing a pvp build. I also think 1 point in surge of light is def worth it. A free instant flash heal is never a bad thing even if its only here and there. Saved a few people in last weeks raid when it proc'd. Maybe procs about 3 or 4 times on a raid boss. To me thats 40-50k free healing. Im not a top parsing healer though but i never went oom and we cleared all the raids on normal.
@doublezug71935 күн бұрын
Id never take SOL over inspiration in a prog setting as extra uptime on the tank of the 10% dr is very strong when youre at low gear levels wrt the content. In my testing it seems to proc very infrequently but if you have a offspec slot free I would take a SOL build to fights where you will be actively spamming atonement over poh (halfus, etc.) especially chimaeron where the instant flash heals when youre spread can instantly bump someone over 10%. The problem with 'free' healing from SOL is its opportunity cost. Its contingent on you casting smite, BH or GH and costs a global. Smite is a pretty bad spell outside of damage amp, BH is only good in situations where both targets get full effectiveness and ideally at least one has grace, and GH is ok but not great on a tank with grace but is also highly situational and not something you want to spam aggressively. You want to build the disc priest around casting POH, our strongest spell by far, as much as possible and SOL just doesnt fit into that plan well
@liquid86538 күн бұрын
What do you use for your action bars? It looks like default, but I like how the non used buttons on the bars are hidden. I would like to have mine look like that.
@BCM1773 күн бұрын
In the action bar settings you can disable 'always show actionbars', its not an addon
@Austino2048 күн бұрын
love the explanations of how things changed from Wrath, as that was my big struggle. Love the strengths and weaknesses of each spell too
@doublezug71935 күн бұрын
Yeah its definitely one of the most changed healing specs and takes a while to get used to coming from wrath.
@petyrrusev27069 күн бұрын
Does the last tick of the dots transfers to the refreshed one if clipped?
@doublezug71935 күн бұрын
Yes, cata has the first iteration of pandedmic built in (it was bugged on beta so i didnt go into it too much as I wasnt sure if it would actually be fixed by launch). This means that you can refresh your dot anytime in the last ticks window and you wont lost a tick, the additional duration will just be added on. This is why youll notice if you UA and then UA again instantly it will have a slightly longer duration than the initial cast.
@lre4real11 күн бұрын
I notice i really only oom once i get aggressive with pws on fights we gotta move alot. Im contemplating sending the crit mastery route and reducing some spirit
@BlacKFooTBiggS12 күн бұрын
A brief guide . 1.5 hours
@salvadorv.259813 күн бұрын
wdym jewelcraft is bad
@doublezug71935 күн бұрын
Its fine BEFORE epic gems come out and then after epic gems come out its terrible because it gives less main stat wrt epic gems.
@jamespast350315 күн бұрын
One thing I've been doing to maintain mana is use synapse spring right before atonement so I get 5% mana back from the bigger pool. The cds line up every other atonement if you use on cd which I have been your mana regen is insane
@doublezug719313 күн бұрын
Yes this is great, also stacking it with any int proc/mana hymn mana pool increase etc is strong.
@RudigguerC4 күн бұрын
What spring you mean?
@jamespast350315 күн бұрын
Best guide on KZbin for disc information. Very nice guide!! I was hoping you had a holy priest guide too. Lol.
@PRC53315 күн бұрын
After some experience, I think that disc is going to be nice to have as an-off healer. I leveled disc and ran it up until I hit heroics, where it started to struggle because of a general lack of gear for everyone. Just did BWD 10 man for the first time healing as a holy priest with a disc as our only other healer. I can say that at least with the gear people have right now, you don't have the global time or mana to screw around with trying to cast holy fire and smite to get value out of atonement. There is so much unavoidable raid damage happening all the time that healing is a full time job. Because of all this aoe damage, I was absolutely smashing the disc priest in HPS and total heals. It would have been good to have another primary healer like a paladin or druid or shaman and then use the disc as kind of a flex heal/dps kind of like a shadow priest that can actually focus heal.
@ahetzel90545 күн бұрын
I've also done bwd, I spent most of the time spamming smite and holy fire. Those are your 2 most efficient healing spells and my raid was heavy melee so I never had an issue. Never had a mana issue but I wasn't using prayer of healing as much as I should have been because I still had wrath brain lol. But yea, disc is incredibly OP. At the point now where I spam smite and holy fire and entire heroic dungeon and never go oom. You just need 2k spirit unbuffed and you'll never go oom.
@albeshino887515 күн бұрын
Is it possible to have your UI?
@matx290815 күн бұрын
Nice videos mate. Are you going to explain your grid/healing addon or share your profile? Would love to see your UI looks like a clean one without anything you dont need. Videos help a lot to get back after many years, thank you for that and go on.
@PRC53316 күн бұрын
I'm just coming back to WoW (except SoD) for the first time since the original WotLK, so I boosted a priest to 80 and went from there with the gear they provided. Disc worked fine while leveling in dungeons, even without evangelism. However, once I hit heroics I really struggled with mana and aoe healing. I think there's a lot of things going on, people had sub-par gear but were pulling like they were already raid geared and ignoring mechanics, which puts more pressure on the healer. In any case, I swapped to holy and that instantly made things easier. I think I will go back to disc for the raid utility eventually, but for 5 mans holy has been doing work. Edit: after running our first 10 man raid I can say that holy is going to be far better individually for BWD since there is just an absolute ton of unavoidable raid damage. Every boss has some kind of constant raid damage they do and discipline will not be able to keep up as a primary healer. It will be good as a supplemental and utility healer to other primary healing specs like holy priest/paladin, resto shaman/druid. I kind of see it filling a similar role to shadow priest but more focused on the healing and utility than dps.
@Vin_Codes16 күн бұрын
I appreciate you making this detailed guide! I was wondering, do we ONLY use fel flame while moving or is there merit to using it as a replacement of re-casting immolate? Thank you in advance~
@doublezug719313 күн бұрын
No, its better to just manually recast immolate/UA.
@Vin_Codes13 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 Thank you!
@Niyanece16 күн бұрын
u use grid ? or what this ?
@Yamulo18 күн бұрын
Can you elaborate why the improved corruption build is worse on multi target? I had assumed that build was better but I guess I was really wrong
@doublezug719317 күн бұрын
My experimentation with sims shows sb build as about 400-600 dps higher in p1 bis which is significant but not that large. If you prefer the simpler rotation you can go the incinerate spam build and not sacrifice too much (especially if you play it better resulting in higher effective dps). Corruption doesnt do very much damage so even on multi target the 12% increase isnt big enough to really matter on multi dotting imo. I could be wrong about this however and it might be correct to spec swap for multi dot fights.
@Yamulo17 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 Thanks for the reply. I was struggling with the sim to get it to change the rotation when I changed the talents, and I honestly did not think about it too much until I saw the video. You're right, though from what I can tell the SB bolt is better I just naively thought that the imp corruption would be better, but like you said the damage from it is quite low. Another question, since master swapping is still in the game do you think it is worth it to prepop an on use mastery trinc even if it puts your DMC on icd? Thank you again
@doublezug719317 күн бұрын
@@Yamulo it almost certainly is worth it to prepop a mastery trinket.
@jasonbaker864918 күн бұрын
Seem to be having mana issues, I'm not spamming shield but seem to always be short of mana. Is it a normal thing for Cata dungeons?
@jasonbaker864918 күн бұрын
just rewatched and saw the Spirit tap glyph. Gonna test it out
@doublezug719317 күн бұрын
its normal to have to drink between pulls and such in low gear If youre ooming and its causing wipes I would focus on rapture uptime (have an icd tracker and watch it) and probably smiting/flash healing/pws less and heal with mostly penance/gh/holy fire/PPOH also press youre inner focus on cd or macro it into your abilities if you dont want to think about it and you can even spec into train of thought over darkness which will help with mana
@joshuasantangelo534621 күн бұрын
this is a stretch, spirit is more important than ever in any expansion
@doublezug719320 күн бұрын
This guide was for prepatch specifically. In icc bis you didnt need regen because scaling was insane. In cata it will be prioritized.
@poptartarus_437122 күн бұрын
For execution phase do you still use incinerate when you proc molten core, or do you just fill with soul fire?
@doublezug719322 күн бұрын
Yeah you still incinerate.
@thereal-ghost22 күн бұрын
private server disc priest isn't the same as cata classic dis priest. the tuning is not even close since we're running last tier patch tuning with first tier content. Raids will be dominated by holy paladin and resto druid due to the insane hps and utility they both provide hence why the few PTR guilds we play with stack them and don't care much about disc. You can run a single disc priest in raid to help out but they just aren't going to be the god tier that casuals think they will be.
@jasonbaker864912 күн бұрын
Incorrect
@ahetzel90545 күн бұрын
I'm a disc priest and I am definitely God tier now 😂
@ezeess723922 күн бұрын
seal of insight is 4% of BASE mana not total mana like back in wrath with seal of wis. its way worse now. Essentially its about 25% of what it was before.
@chropowato22 күн бұрын
soo, given the difference of FH vs GH we should just skip FH, right?
@aMethoz23 күн бұрын
Thanks for the guide. Do you shar e your WAs at all?
@doublezug719323 күн бұрын
My main WA is the wotlk fojji pack that I just fixed a bit with the new spell IDs to work in cata. I assume hell be releasing class packs for cata, if you arent experienced with making your own was I would just use his premade class packs. When i have the time ill probably make my own pack for cata and when I do ill share it.
@aMethoz22 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 That's awesome. Would a wagio link be something you're willing to share. Found your guides and have been enjoying them a lot
@W0ndering50ul23 күн бұрын
Love you man ❤
@doublezug719323 күн бұрын
u2king
@MrPetete1223 күн бұрын
Do you go full crit stats build like a wolkt preparch?
@doublezug719323 күн бұрын
I would prioritize spirit and main stat heavily as you gear up. For low geared heroics you want to maximize the number of casts you can do each pull/boss before you oom especially if you arent running with guild/geared tanks and dps. Once you get higher ilvl you can grab more mastery and crit. I wouldnt stack crit assuming the aegis bug is fixed where it was giving too much absorb on crit POH.
@recoverygose24 күн бұрын
I keep seeing conflicting info on whether we should be using shadowbolt or incinerate as the primary demo filler. You and some other online sources are saying shadowbolt but crix, icy veins, wowhead is saying incinerate. Which is it?
@doublezug719324 күн бұрын
Once the sim is accurate thatll tell us for sure, theyll be decently close.
@BlindGuardian05024 күн бұрын
Disease in heroics can be bad so take note of them especially in tol vir dungeon
@jasonbaker864924 күн бұрын
Thanks so much for the guide dude.
@blank414227 күн бұрын
is this the patch that lets you become a metamorphosis tank with that one glyph that makes meta last forever? (haven't watched the full video yet)
@doublezug719327 күн бұрын
No, thats sod. In cata you cant meta tank but it does make you temporarily crit immune and increases armor.
@blank414226 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 Sod? Sorry, could you elaborate please? I haven't played classic in a while now and last I played during the release of ICC, the glyph that lets you stay in metamorphosis forever did not exist at the time.
@doublezug719326 күн бұрын
@@blank4142 SOD is season of discovery. Its a new game mode that out rn thats basically vanilla wow with new raids and new class abilities. Permanent meta is one of those new abilities. In cata meta is very similar to how it works in wrath.
@blank414222 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 oh wow, I could've sworn back when the perma meta first became a thing it was not an sod thing. I don't even remember sod back then for some reason. that's quite interesting and quite sad because I was expecting it to release with cata or the next expansion for classic. is sod here to stay or does it go away at any point?
@TheSlayeralmighty28 күн бұрын
A "Brief Guide"
@whatevur630221 күн бұрын
😂 😂 it's a good one though..I enjoyed it so much
@Midz43928 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for the guide. What about leatherworking for the movement speed boost?
@badderen9228 күн бұрын
Nice vid! Just a poiner to people who see the holy priest and think like "Ooo they so bad he getting crushed, useleess spec". This is pre patch and not lvl 85, it will be waaay different at that lvl :)
@doublezug719328 күн бұрын
Yeah, hpriest can pump even in prepatch it just matches up poorly rn with hpal and disc because it lacks absorbs to mitigate overhealing. A disc doing 50khps raw vs a hpriest doing the same will heal for way more because of aegis. If you solo or two heal with a hpries they will blast even in icc.
@firatdizdar3428 күн бұрын
shaman is stronq
@tunasub809729 күн бұрын
would love a more in-depth guide, this was super helpful
@doublezug719329 күн бұрын
Thanks, just posted a much longer guide on the channel.
@tharpoonАй бұрын
i stopped playing before og cata and started playing sod...now moving to cata to give that a go. How has lock changed from cata to cata classic? some tier lists are putting demo S tier for both pvp and pve, others put it in D for one or the other...which one is it! lol
@doublezug719329 күн бұрын
Its very strong for pve the entire way through bbut not the number one ranged. Suffers a bit from having its main raid buff also brought by ele which is a very strong spec. Its not great in pvp but its pretty fun there imo. In pvp youre basically a one dimensional spec that does huge burst in meta and outside of that cd you suck. Aff is also so strong in pvp that playing destro or demo is that much worse because of opportunity cost. If you like pvp and pve you can play affliction in both or demo in pve and aff in pvp easily though.
@manfredzwick5278Ай бұрын
Cheers for mentioning the Felflame snapshot interaction 👍
@doublezug719329 күн бұрын
Yeah, on some pservers you can extend a huge snapshotted ua forever with it but my tests on beta showed it resetting with every felflame.
@Sammysapphira27 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 Any form of "reset" duration mechanic re-snapshots, including haunt resetting corruption. So you can't have a permanently bloodlusted corruption anymore, but snapshotting doom is highly valuable.
@chrisarets2231Ай бұрын
Thx for making this extensive guide. I've healed in TBC but wanna get back into it for Cata so having this guide really helps!
@GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO69Ай бұрын
what a great video. Which professions do you recommend?, sorry if you mentioned it and I missed it.
@doublezug7193Ай бұрын
Any main prof is fine in cata but for prog phase one id go engi and either tailoring or alch. Priest is highly immobile so nitros are really nice.
@Person62Ай бұрын
Could you go over dungeon healing
@doublezug7193Ай бұрын
Ill probably do a video on tips for heroics at some point. The playstyle isnt too different from mixed raid healing but if you dont have a Blood DK (you should have one in raids almost always) youll have to do a bit more tank healing on average. Atonement is also great in 5 mans, especially the easier ones.
@tunasub809726 күн бұрын
@@doublezug7193 please a video on healing heroics would be amazing 🙏 you explain stuff so well
@ahetzel90545 күн бұрын
It's pretty simple, shield tank, use borrowed time for either penance if someone is low, prayer of healing if everyone is low, or smite if no one is.(Also remember that penance doesn't consume borrowed time). Then use holy fire(it's already so fast borrowed time doesn't increase the speed as much as smite or something else). Holy fire is your best heal for its mana cost and cast time. Use prayer of mending on cool down and smite whenever there's nothing happening or only one person is low. Once you get 5 stacks of evangelism use arch angel for the mana back and extra healing. Build up 5 stacks of evangelism again and just press whatever buttons you need and again just spam smite whenever everything is on cool down or people are topped or near topped. Never flash heal, or renew. Greater heal is decent but typically you're better off just smiting and holy fire.
@doublezug71935 күн бұрын
@@ahetzel9054 I basically agree but in very low gear greater heal is much better than smite, especially outsife of glyph of smite window. I would also consider taking train of thought in low gear for heroics and pressing GH a lot, although at this point in the expansion tanks/dps in rdf or premade groups have enough gear that your mana matters a lot less.
@doublezug7193Ай бұрын
Forgot to mention Inner Will and fiend. Unless you're extremely big brained just always be in inner fire. For fiend you should use it in conjunction with mana hymn now that mana matters more. You can also call for a second lust when you pop it to get extra mana back as the haste will give your fiend a few extra swings.
@PRC53315 күн бұрын
I'm not sure if you didn't mention it because it's so universal, but intellect is always the #1 stat priority for basically any caster since it's spell power and mana. For disc I think that mastery is more important than holy just because of how nice that extra absorption is with the guaranteed proc from PoH. The mini hot from the holy mastery isn't significant enough to focus on.
@kylebb9613 күн бұрын
@@PRC533A crit PoH does 4x divine aegis shield so mastery kind of sucks compared to crit.
@PRC53312 күн бұрын
@@kylebb96 PoH procs divine shield with every cast, not just crits. It's the other heals that require crits for the shield.
@kylebb9612 күн бұрын
@@PRC533 yes I already knew that. But PoH crits give 4x shield. Non crit is like 2k shield, crit is like 8k shield. Hence the value you get from crit is insane.
@RudigguerC4 күн бұрын
@@kylebb96Hey bro, si hoe many Spirit Haste we need for this build to Start focus on Crit. What si the Best choice i AM running full Spirit and reforges mastery intoHaste, or Crit into Haste or Spirit, or how many crit is viable then runn full haste