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@windigo3544 2 күн бұрын
Nice post as usual, thanks! I use Phazer v4 65l as my main board and can compare it only to a Nomad v1 115l which I use for very lite days as it floats. My impression is that although the Nomad is accelerating much faster first, but then it kinda slows down and it's much harder to pupm it out of the water, as the tail is to floaty to push it under the water. If there is just enough wind to pump my wing efectively, it's a lot easier for me to come up on the foil with my Phazer 65l and also easier to ride/control the board in litewind conditions. When I was using a Phazer v2 46l, it felt like I can start pumping the board whilst still under water. Just curios how the smaller Nomads perform and if they are easier to pump up, given that theyr tail bottom is abslolutely flat... Btw, how is the new Life wing?
@ktwo-surf Күн бұрын
Not tried the life yet, new factory, new tech… looks interesting. pumping when up is the same pretty much. Don’t tend to pump much winging 🤷♂️👍
@Tobeon2 2 күн бұрын
Top end vs Bottom end !! It makes so much sense... Thank you !!
@AdamsHadEnough 4 күн бұрын
This was such a good review, I was felt like I was watching Motorweek back in the '80s on PBS, and I mean that in a good way!
@hamishmcgovern4965 4 күн бұрын
Great video - thanks for the tips
@_maximilianhinz 5 күн бұрын
Nice review. I got myself the previous nomad 6'6 last summer and it absolutely transformed the way i wing ... really love how it just feels like surfing when you're on flat water. I think my go to for higher winds might be a 70ish Phazer ... but maybe 55 nomad now after watching this? :-D
@buenacloud 5 күн бұрын
Great to see Mark back at it, crafting new boards again! 🔥✌️
@rcurt8249 5 күн бұрын
Sweet ! Shinn Absinthe awesome board is going to be a hard one to top 😊
@andiabel212 5 күн бұрын
Hi Mike. I think the obvious solution would be a 5'4''x21''x55l phazer. The length/width ratio is more important than the differences in bottom shape and the phazer is already quite efficient, I have the 55l. And while they are on it, Clinton please move the boxes fwd 2'', as well as the back strap plugs which should also have two full offset rows. Which is why i don't like boards below 20'' with pin tails, they suck with an offset stance or bigger foils, the lever is too small..
@PeteJonesF6 6 күн бұрын
I'm going to add some comments in response to some of the questions, I hope you don't mind past or future Mike. I think you got it spot on about our riding styles and what we look for. I think the nomad is perhaps a little easier to balance on in a 'just' sinking volume, as short lengths are a bit more tricky than narrow widths IMHO. In terms of waves I think the phaser is better for the small stuff and the nomad for the bigger stuff, the extra length is a little easier to touch the smaller curvier waves but, as the wave size increases, this is less of an issue, and being able to bank it further without touching is preferable. You do of course lose a little pitch control which is again more important for high frequency/fast adjustments and less for a more flowing ride.
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
Thanks Pete, very astute. I'm glad you knew why I was so confused as soon as I sent you that msg! lol
@dirkpetersen8705 6 күн бұрын
Hi there, whats the weight of the 55l nomad?
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
It's away being tested at the moment with the foil mag, but it feels a lot lighter than I expected. So much so I mailed the designer and asked if the construction had changed - he said no, but they had doubled down on q/c in the factory to make sure only structural weight went in, and I believe him. My phazer seemed much heavier. As an eps core I doubt even a hand built eps custom board with vacc tech could get down lighter than this. It's very impressive.
@GARAASJ 6 күн бұрын
Your videos are so good. Some true in-depth thoughts on topics that we all wonder about. Much appreciation for all your efforts 🤙 One think I ‘d like to know, how does the low end of a 55 nomad compares to a floater size nomad?
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
good question - I have not bench tested.. but I would say, judging on how early the 55 goes that the difference between big and small nomads is not as great as big and small phazers. If you can get the nomad 55 to the surface and can pump (have enough wind in the wing to opump effectively) then you are gone. That is not true of the 55 phazer... so the gap between big and small nomads probably less than the phazer. @PeteJonesF6 could add to this as he's got a lot of experience with the next size up of both.
@PeteJonesF6 5 күн бұрын
In a perfectly steady wind there will be a certain strength where you'll be unable to get the sinker nomad to the surface but the floater will already be there and foiling in no time. At the bleeding edge of light wind performance your foil and technique are important, but for most people riding in sensible wind strengths or can benefit from gusts to get the board up the real world difference is likely to be less. It's perhaps more likely people will opt to use a smaller wing than try to go out in silly light winds (like i often do :))
@Cabrinhakite 6 күн бұрын
Amazing 🤩
@joshvanstee-theTood 6 күн бұрын
Hands down….best news of the year
@bmrbca3658 6 күн бұрын
How is the stability of the narrow mid length board when getting to your knees and then to your feet and while taxi to takeoff? I wing in choppy ocean conditions and wonder if the narrow width would make the board hard to get up and going
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
Probably worse, but I do a video on the channel about starting small boards which makes this concern go away - did you see it?
@bmrbca3658 6 күн бұрын
@@ktwo-surf Just did. Thanks
@bmrbca3658 6 күн бұрын
Hopefully there is a LW model in the new lineup. My Nobile Shinn LW board is still the best LW board I've ridden.
@GrantClaytonKitesurfer 6 күн бұрын
Let’s go! 🤙🔥
@normanh5052 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely great news looking forward to adding to my collection of Shinn boards 🤙🏼
@christomo 6 күн бұрын
Hi Mike of the Christmas present, I hope you are well. It's a great video, with lots of fuel for thought . Personally, I've been looking at these boards for a while not so much for the low end and more for the ability to lean them over in a wave without clipping a rail as I currently often do , what's your thoughts on this ? Does the slim outline help prevent clipping of the rail . Thanks for sharing 👍
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
Hi dude, I see the marras are really charging these days… Respect! For me the extra control of the Phazer wins in waves, and if it’s a choice been foil popping out and catching the rail, then your crazy angle turns need a longer mast… But…. Some days the waves are so good but the winds so light… in this situation the nomad wins 100x over as you can’t get a Phazer going, your just meat for the shore break!
@christomo 6 күн бұрын
@ktwo-surf thanks mate food for thought, appreciated 👏
@archiekras6668 6 күн бұрын
Been a big fan of Shinn boards for years! Lovely to hear
@eska-shinnworldpolska1940 6 күн бұрын
❤
@richardcoleby2506 6 күн бұрын
Put my name on one of the new big air boards. Been waiting to see what was coming.
@Hurly-Burly-r2i 6 күн бұрын
Stupendous news
@raghuram2815 6 күн бұрын
Hi, thanks for the review. Would Nomad still be the better pick if riding flat water in inland lakes? And no wave riding at all.
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
for 90% of people the nomad is better for wave riding, and for lakes - absolutely. It's a better board all over, aside for the few who only care about full speed / full power. The irony is, I revere people who have flow and that is the Nomad 100%
@martinomovies 6 күн бұрын
Inland lakes you don’t really have big waves that you can surf and will knock into your rail unless it’s a big inland lake like Lake Michigan. So the mid length would be nice.
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
@martinomovies if you are smooth and have flow then midlength ideal - they are also superior in gusty wind where it's unreliable. If you ride like Adgate, then you'll prefer the Phazer...
@raghuram2815 6 күн бұрын
@@ktwo-surf OK, now you're throwing a bit of jargon that's over my head 😄😀. So let me ask again : beginner/intermediate rider wing foiling on flat water inland lakes. Nomad or Phazer? I know nothing about flow. Just back and forth riding. 😆
@ktwo-surf 6 күн бұрын
Nomad 100% 🙏👍
@Stolflucas 9 күн бұрын
Havaianas on the foot
@AdamMonk-k2e 11 күн бұрын
brilliant video and great explanation. I'm interested in one of your boards, I live in West Australia, can you ship?
@ktwo-surf 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, email sent 🙂
@filipradenovski8988 12 күн бұрын
What size Monk do you recommend for 1.81cm, 83kg, beginner? 136x42 or 138x43?
@ktwo-surf 10 күн бұрын
either would be fine - larger would make lighter wind riding easier and go upwind better but would limit you ability to pin down speed and power when you push more expert riding levels. I guess it depends how fast you think you will get good! Easy life now or easy life later - will you get to expert level - maybe that will not be your style... It's a best guess...
@filipradenovski8988 10 күн бұрын
@@ktwo-surf Thanks :) 43 version is very hard to get now. Hope supply issue will be fixed soon and we will get all sizes and maybe new versions of the boards.
@ktwo-surf 10 күн бұрын
@@filipradenovski8988 it is.. more will be coming next year, but in the uk we are out until they arrive...
@HungerStrike-uo4sx 12 күн бұрын
Such an inside spiritual moves. The melody The harmony
@DMatalas 14 күн бұрын
Im 60, very good shape, two years into it I can tack and jibe, stay upwind, but struggling to stay on foil.. some say my gong inflateable board is the problem..
@ktwo-surf 13 күн бұрын
inflatable boards are a solution to a problem - storage. They are most certainly not a solution to handling - they are notoriously terrible. For moves that require fine control or high loads they are not fit for purpose... for bimbling around at half power with slow and steady turns they are fine...
@DMatalas 14 күн бұрын
No way.. very difficult, Im 60 very fit, 2 years into I can tack and jive all day up wind.. still can’t ride foil on inflatable Gong galaxy board 😢
@ktwo-surf 14 күн бұрын
Sorry to say, route of pitch control is in stiffness and the associated hardware response it brings. - foil and especially board…. Inflatable boards are terrible. Ok for beginners head butting the nose, but for performance riding with higher speed and loadings they are terrible… Like trying to drive a performance car around a race track with a blind folded driver and a passenger shouting instructions…
@rollereef6401 17 күн бұрын
Nice videos and superb riding @Ktwo! May I ask, is that the Freewing pro you’re using in this video? What can you say about that wing? Is it still worth buying them if I would get a good deal? Which one do you prefer, the Air v3 or the Pro v1? Is the pro good in waves and as an all rounder too?
@ktwo-surf 17 күн бұрын
Hi Sir, Thanks for the kind words. Freewing pro was a favourite of mine for a number of reasons. Massive windrange - super powerful, very composed at high load - It was also indestructible - I did not break one in 2 years and no stretch either - none 0 same wing after 2 years as it was on day 1.. The 3 is a bit twitchy, the 5 a bit powerful but the 4 is very good. flag out fine (if a bit more draggy), maybe heavier compared to nitro, I preferred them a lot more than the freewing V3, which was not powerful enough for me. go for the pro...
@rollereef6401 17 күн бұрын
@ Thank you for your response and thank you for your detailed description, I appreciate it a lot! They will be used in a school so it’s a no brainer then if they’re so durable. Thank you again and keep up the good work with your videos. I’m in the ordering process right now so your response came perfectly in time.
@OliverEvans-x3x 19 күн бұрын
Am curious about what is the right volume for a 2 board quiver. I’m 70kg on a 75l board. Tried a 35 litre. Got it going but seemed unnecessarily small. 50l (I.e. 20 less than body weight (exc wetsuit)? Any advice appreciated.
@steffanadams936 21 күн бұрын
What is the water in Nov? are you wearing a 5/4 wetsuit or thicker? Love this channel!
@ktwo-surf 21 күн бұрын
5/4 if you are tough guy, or 6/5 with a hood if you are a coward like me, haha 8-9 degrees. Seems to me that we are riding down to 1-3 degrees air temp with the FD no issues... Under 8 was an issue with windsports..
@CptProv 21 күн бұрын
Nice vid. Guess I'll follow your suggestion and get the front strap soon, as since I downsized board roll control has been terrible, impacting my abilty to pump the board
@ktwo-surf 21 күн бұрын
I am only recently starting to get the 'feel' for fast pumping. It's a real art. I think people underestimate - how high you need to be, - how when you compress the ideal is to not have the board pointing down so that you just sink the mast - the front wing has to bite. - how you have to match your speed to the foil - drop slightly under this threshold and you are toast. - how the majority of the compress goes through the back foot, not the front - how the end of the stoke has to give you altitude, right back up to the very tip toes of your mast. When I do get it nailed I'll make a vid on pumping, I'm still not 100% dialled yet.
@alsoares 8 күн бұрын
@@ktwo-surfpumping is really exhaustive in low winds. The board shape is also an important element to be taken into account. Some shapes drag a lot, keeping speed low.
@jamesaspinwall 23 күн бұрын
I love the end of the video.
@Truthseeker2000-e1s 26 күн бұрын
Really great work. This will be stiffer than pump boards.
@brendayoung7123 Ай бұрын
Fantastic Paul, makes me want to get my foil out!! ( Tin Foil ) haha xx
@MichaelHuber-b1h Ай бұрын
This is a LOT to digest all at once... but super helpful and inspiring! I'll try and nail #1 over the next 1-10 sessions and then take it from there 🙂
@MichaelHuber-b1h Ай бұрын
Totally agree on #5!
@MichaelHuber-b1h Ай бұрын
This is really good! Thank you.
@haldanemartin3642 Ай бұрын
Hi Mike, im interested in buying an inset board from you. how do we communicate about this? size, lead time, price. thanks.
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
What's app sent!
@natalieb825 Ай бұрын
I am interested in getting on the list as well- thanks
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
@@natalieb825 Hi Natalie, send me a mail, [email protected] - Picking up foam today and locking things down for the next run on Monday.
@petercook7798 Ай бұрын
How many batteries did you use over 5 hours?
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
5 batteries - get an hour out of each :-) I do well for battery life - not sure if it's a board thing, but I do a bit more pumping these days, and I'm very easy on the gas. Typical EV driver with range anxiety. Also falling off less, and it's the starting that really kills the juice too.. .
@petercook7798 Ай бұрын
Thanks and sorry if you mentioned this in the video but are you using the assist max or the slim?
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
@@petercook7798 max - 90% of foildrive sales are the max with the max power battery. With a heavy finger you get a minimum of 45 mins, max 2 hrs.
@jeremywootton8343 Ай бұрын
What a cracking session !!!
@davemitchell585 Ай бұрын
That's a lovely looking playground
@christomo Ай бұрын
Awesome I just love this very inspirational guys are pioneering
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
It's bloody addictive, and the learning curve is immense.
@stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd Ай бұрын
Ahhh this is heaven. Nice riding guys! My morning coffee just tasted a little "salty" watching these glassy beauties. 😅 I had a great session in the Mediterranean 2days ago..until sunset (way smaller though😊). Then full moon. So I can relate. Ride (Foildrive) on. 🤙 Has anyone noticed? Glassy water has quite a bit more drag and sometimes is really hard to guess how high you are on foil😅
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
I hear you on glassy conditions. We had a session in Ireland, in pure glass, and the water was so clear all you could see was the seabed. It was almost unridable (but very pretty!)
@martinomovies Ай бұрын
Great video I started my Fouere journey a couple months ago maybe one day I’ll be able to catch waves like this
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
Fast learning curve! one of the addictions it has...
@carlgulland7664 Ай бұрын
Epic stuff - 100k 💥! What's the deal with the 'spoiler' above the prop?
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
I used it as an anticavitation pl;ate, but since learned something else about cavitation - biggest cause is air getting sucked up the inside of the tape - you need to 100% seal the trailing edge of the mast and the cavitation plate (with built in fairing to hide the motor) really helps. I run 15cm, with a 5 cm inset, so my pod is slammed.
@stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd Ай бұрын
Great "engineering around". I share 100% what you're saying about stiffness. I have been wake thieving with Foildrive a lot trying to catch a wave that runs at 33-37km/h😅. It threw me off with the same 4'6" bamboo tech board and then it'd be controllable and rideable with a 4'6" full carbon board. You even feel less the swing weight due to the battery case. Pumping efficiency increases! In Downwinding it makes you work/pump less since you feel more. At first you need to get into it though..all the turbulence is also transferred right to your feet😅.Good job 👏 Bravo
@ktwo-surf Ай бұрын
wake thieving at almost 40km/hr, that's too funny. That's hauling!
@stefanfuhrmann-wt3zd Ай бұрын
@ktwo-surf that's what you do when you live on a Lake far from the ocean 😇😂. Really jealous of those waves in your backyard 😀. But sincerely I've really fallen in love with some wake waves. Amazing surfing 20km, sometimes more and learn for the time in the ocean. Share your stoke for Foildrive. And loving your boards 😁
@makalii Ай бұрын
Awesome! Can't wait to get one of your boards.
@user-dn7sg4cf1h Ай бұрын
Fantastic. Inspiring stuff