Not good to use two wraiths they can end up using eachother as shields sadly
@PapaNasty3 ай бұрын
Yeah once I started using them I realized this. Very frustrating.
@GINTSJAKOVLEVS4 ай бұрын
I'm at half way in the video, by the spearthrowers and now just thinking how awesome they could be with Bard, for who have him at 5 respect+ If you mention it later in the vid, I will seem a bit stupendous, but damn that bleed materialising with his R5 skill......! Can only imagine!
@PapaNasty4 ай бұрын
I'm an Evil RP player, so don't know Bard well. But looked up his skills and it would be interesting if there was a Bard spec which was viable with Spear Throwers. As you need to bear in mind some key points about bleeds: - Bleeds don't stack - Bleeds won't over-write an existing bleed Bard's R5 would indeed be awesome, completely agree there. But.... the Spear Throwers would likely have so many targets affected by their bleed, that Bard's Top/Bottom R0 bleeds would be ineffective. If you could build a build with Bard which didn't utilize those bleeds, and focused on his R3/R5 talents, then this might work though. You wouldn't necessarily need to have Spear Throwers as Bard's unit (You could though, as his R3 buffs apply to all races), and so could run them on Azru Khor or another commander who gives followup like GtG and then rely on Bard's R5 for damage. He could then likely deal a lot of damage as a support commander (High Command / Unit Defence), although the damage would largely be assigned to the spear thrower's not himself. Bard would be the unsung hero lol.
@GINTSJAKOVLEVS4 ай бұрын
@@PapaNasty Hey man. Never actually checked that bleeds don't stack or refresh. In that case yes - Bard could only be utilised in a more supportive role as you explained and lose his main damaging potential. Thanks for the response. You live, you learn :D
@pabloburgos634 ай бұрын
Saludos de Kalfu.
@MrPLWayne4 ай бұрын
Very good video Papa! I didn’t know spear thrower were that good! Thanks man
@ombrartw4 ай бұрын
Very good Guide Papa!
@doug58534 ай бұрын
So good 🎉
@joesnyder93335 ай бұрын
Very helpful. Ty
@shyLFDY5 ай бұрын
Really enjoying your videos, you've got great insight and info. To make a long story short, i played the first season (late 2021?). But nothing after that. Im aware of all the changes that's been made to the game. So the question is, should I continue playing on one of the accounts i have or is it more worth to start new? Cause I'm going to be so much behind.
@northernbloke67875 ай бұрын
You don't...
@zinglociabatta32055 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video, it was the most helpful and clear. Keep it up!!
@TECHNIKMM5 ай бұрын
Literally only works when you are a big whale
@leagueplays21005 ай бұрын
black serpent and bereuthiel's buffs are so bad lol, but interesting ideas i appreciate
@mmcnaughton49225 ай бұрын
Hey papa not sure if you will remember me from rebbl mmcnaughton4 i was playing lotr home then it died and this seems the next big game to play for my lotr fix however cant seem to find any people up for helping a new player out with a fellowship or just teaching me how to play like im still not sure which of the 6 factions to go at the start haha. Was hoping you might have a discord or group that i could join that way i can actually learn to enjoy this game. All the best mmcnaughton4
@meanmatt49976 ай бұрын
This is very very good :) like its good as 🗿🍕
@AJb2486 ай бұрын
Only counter for DD formations in 2.0 is a bigger DD.
@franciscoarrieta756 ай бұрын
Great videos thanks, i did the same analisys, and played like on my first 2.0, now watching your video before the next season will be very helpful
@Orca-bn6bh6 ай бұрын
first
@ombrartw6 ай бұрын
Very good Guide, i like it :)
@scrillz11586 ай бұрын
back to back uploads what a legend 👍
@Orca-bn6bh6 ай бұрын
good stuff papa. where does the damage come from if you are running all defense tho?
@PapaNasty6 ай бұрын
Just further to this, I just fought the same player as I showed in the video, but I'd swapped Sauron for Witch King (Using Half-Trolls) as a DPS Commander. He's lvl 50 and using 3-5 star gold equipment & relic, so much better geared than my R5 lvl 42 Sauron in purples. But without Sauron's -15% stats I've lost the trade today because I tried to add more damage, and in doing so went below the magic number.
@behnamdabestanizade6 ай бұрын
Best build videos of Lotr War on KZbin!
@staceygrant69526 ай бұрын
Papa. Its CutThroatCarpe from gold. Thank you for this video ❤
@PapaNasty6 ай бұрын
I hope it helps. If you've got any questions after watching then please feel free to ask. Also if you do utilize the style of builds I've described, I'll look forward to seeing some of your tests against Loth etc
@staceygrant69526 ай бұрын
@@PapaNasty I'm going to adapt my builds based on your video. Will send some reports to you on game ❤️❤️❤️
@behnamdabestanizade6 ай бұрын
Whats up Carpe? Going to play next season together!@@staceygrant6952
@Orca-bn6bh6 ай бұрын
hey mate do you reckon unit defense stats is more useful than running focus to get more out of the deceiver?
@PapaNasty6 ай бұрын
Yes. The Deceiver doesn't scale that well with focus, but also the best focus equipment has Commander Damage on weapon / accessory and HP on helm, so in addition to missing out on unit defence, you also miss out on a lot of command. Also Sauron's 2x DD abilities do very low damage so it's better to allocate that damage to a commander who can better utilize it. Check out the video below, where I objectively compare the damage output of all of the evil DD commanders: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lafCZaOlj6maipYfeature=shared (Although bear in mind, Saruman's R3 ability now displays more damage output than it did when I made the video)
@Orca-bn6bh6 ай бұрын
@@PapaNasty yeah the scaling is not really worth it i guess. command would be better i agree
@PapaNasty6 ай бұрын
As a note - In last week’s patch they changed the text for Saruman’s R3 ability to list its damage as high than it was previously (It seems this was a text mistake rather than a buff). As a result this would push Saruman up the rankings a lot, he’s almost definitely the best Evil DD commander for the criteria in this video.
@valtriniti7 ай бұрын
You should add that its only going over evil commanders in the title 🙏
@patricklacey49467 ай бұрын
Great video and concise breakdown, I saw similar performance based on your ranking over the season.
@snoob1607 ай бұрын
Super good video, but 1 question. Does it matter what order i put the commander in when i edit my army? do the melee guy have to be the first one i put in? or how does it work? if you got a video for stuff like that then feel free to link it :)
@PapaNasty7 ай бұрын
There are some small things which the order affects, but it's very minor and not worth worrying about unless you're trying to do something very specific.
@legacyandrews13397 ай бұрын
Agzok own is wrong because his shadow of the mist procs on turn 9 and he's very slow. This leads to him missing a full turn of damage Edit: the devs forgot to add that his ability should proc on turn one like it used too, to prevent this situation from happening.
@PapaNasty7 ай бұрын
It's not "wrong" But yes enemy formations with higher initiative can avoid 1 round of damage from "Shadow of the Mist" if combat ends in a draw. Many commanders have small things like this, where depending on initiative or evade they could lose a portion of their damage. Agzok's lost damage is very minor compared to others, so I wouldn't recommend prioritizing initiative equipment for him (It's most important for Sauron & the Nazgul DD commanders)
@legacyandrews13397 ай бұрын
@@PapaNastyHi, my mistake you explained my exact thoughts @18:00 Disregard my comment. You know your stuff 💯
@legacyandrews13393 ай бұрын
@PapaNasty Hi, I think you may have miscalculated Agzok "Shadow of Mist" damage. It actually only does %780 over its two turn duration and only %390 on it's last activation. Making it deal less damage than Lurtz Firstborn skill. You need to bring Agzok down a tier just for that
@diaanbhais17797 ай бұрын
Love you papa nasty!!!
@phillipesch75567 ай бұрын
Amazing video as expected from you! Id love to see a video on how DD is calculated, e.g how attack and focus stats boost the damage. Attack and damage, focus and burn etc
@PapaNasty7 ай бұрын
That'd be a really interesting video I think. Although I'd need to do a fair amount of research first before I could be confident on something like that. Which is a big part of why I just did the % damage on DD Commanders this time round. As prior to 2.0 all of the abilities that scaled with Focus (And I presume the ones which scaled with Attack etc too), scaled in different ways. I believe that in 2.0 the abilities which scale with Attack should all scale in a uniform manner, although I'm not sure about the damaging abilities which scale with Focus. As the non-damaging abilities definitely scale differently e.g. White Council Scales 100% per 90 Focus I think, while The Deceiver's +% Damage Received scales 100% per 280 focus I think (This is just from memory, so don't quote me lol). Not sure what my next video will be about at the moment, but it might be some kind of comparison between Good & Evil in the current RP meta, or about Evil Army builds.
@behnamdabestanizade7 ай бұрын
Awesome video as always Papa!
@jordanp79617 ай бұрын
appreciate the content bro but i dont have it in me to relearn the game :(
@cheekydevil70057 ай бұрын
привет)
@DmonicBRUTALITY7 ай бұрын
PapaNasty from MORG??
@PapaNasty7 ай бұрын
Yep
@DmonicBRUTALITY7 ай бұрын
@@PapaNasty hey awesome, I’m in the same server. We just met in-game I guess.. lol “Dmonic”. Subscribed!!
@phillipesch75567 ай бұрын
Hey man you sound like your from NZ? Wouldnt happen to have an NZ squad I could join next season? Awesome content by the way, very thorough and informative!
@user-xs5tn8zi5r8 ай бұрын
if ur starting a a new game, a new character there r a lot of thing u cant do, if ur f2p even worst. My english is pretty bad sorry xD
@kylesimpson28448 ай бұрын
So melee units attack other melee units and not ranged. Do commanders attack at random or do commander attacks also prioritise melee units too?
@PapaNasty8 ай бұрын
Commanders will attack randomly (i.e. can attack anyone)
@behnamdabestanizade8 ай бұрын
Thanks Papa!
@leagueplays21008 ай бұрын
uhh, ugluk dmg commander? He's troop buffer. Also, Sauron has highest command by a bit
@PapaNasty8 ай бұрын
Ugluk is about as much of a Troop Commander as Lurtz is. As his base command is similar to Lurtz (12 vs 18) And Lurtz has most of the same "troop buff" abilities that Ugluk has. But Ugluk is essentially a hybrid. As a DD Commander he only has 1x Damaging ability And relies on the Damage from his relic's ability (Which is the equivalent of 6/10 on Pursuer if maxed) The White Hand is really strong, one of the best individual unit buffs on Evil But Outlaw and Uruk-Hai Elite are more hybrid abilities, as they also buff the Commander's Attack But the problem with Uruk-Hai Elite & Outlaw, is that if you discount the Commander Attack portion of them (By not using Commander Damage Weapons / Accessories), then these skills are really bad because the unit buffs they give are only the equivalent of what you'd get from Bloodlines instead. As you'd spend 30 points on Uruk-Hai Elite to get +28 Unit Attack (Total +28), or 30 points on Outlaw to get +35 Unit Attack -5 Unit Defence (Total +30) Comparatively, if you spent 30 points on Bloodlines, you'd get +15 Unit Attack +15 Unit Defence (Total +30) Ugluk also has extremely low base command When you compare his Command to say Glasha, Azru Khor or Gothmog, the real T2 Troop Commanders give their troops an extra +6% Damage Dealt -6% Damage received because they have much higher base command. Also you need to bear in mind too, that although Ugluk is designed to buff his Commander Attack / Unit Attack stats, so that he can be a "glass cannon". But it's a really ineffective design because there's a hard cap on how much +% damage you can gain from attack. With all of this in mind, it is highly likely that Ugluk's formation will deal more damage in a DD Commander build than in a troop commander build. Especially if he had his relic. Anyway, I hope that this answer helps you look at commanders and their skills a little bit differently, as comparing skills to the bloodlines talents is a good benchmark for most skills I think :)