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@529xrst2
@529xrst2 4 күн бұрын
Do you know what the approximate selling price is, thanks.?
@jannegrey
@jannegrey 4 күн бұрын
So it increases utilization of GPU's? Especially during training part? By better scheduling stuff.
@jannegrey
@jannegrey 4 күн бұрын
You will soon be covering CES. I look forward to see it.
@quibster
@quibster 4 күн бұрын
accelerator accelerator? for accelerating your accelerator?
@atanasyourdanov2222
@atanasyourdanov2222 5 күн бұрын
Nope, Power10 is not the first one with its own logo...
@waldmensch2010
@waldmensch2010 7 күн бұрын
nice, but what will cost this card?
@docbrody
@docbrody 7 күн бұрын
I got so nervous just watching him fling that thing around.
@chipsandcheesecc
@chipsandcheesecc 4 күн бұрын
Haha, it was just a mechanical sample with the heatsinks on as a show piece so I was probably flinging it a bit more than I would with an actual card.
@1samm1
@1samm1 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for introducing us to that product! Attempt at constructive criticism: when showing a product in your hands, maybe try and stay slow with your movement if any is needed at all, and deliberate, highlighting a point you make
@chipsandcheesecc
@chipsandcheesecc 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the constructive criticism! This was actually the last short we filmed on a 2 hour, 4 short, gauntlet on the last day of SC24 and this was the 4th or 5th take and I was very much rushing at this point because I was exhausted by this time in the show, but that is no excuse for rushing... I should have taken 5 minutes and relaxed before doing yet another retake which I will try to do in future!
@chipsandcheesecc
@chipsandcheesecc 7 күн бұрын
Editor's note: I said 1.2 teraflops MXINT8 for a single Corsair package, that is incorrect, I meant 1.2 Petaflops of MXINT8 performance per Corsair package. Sorry for the mistake!
@TheParadoxy
@TheParadoxy 10 күн бұрын
How does power compare to Zen in something like y-cruncher? What does latency mean in this context? I thought epyc had made huge improvements in something to do with memory?
@whyjay9959
@whyjay9959 11 күн бұрын
Pretty interesting. But I'm curious about something; Could an OMI slot potentially be used for other types of components, like another processor? This would weaken the flexibility advantage that CXL has over it.
@dslay04
@dslay04 12 күн бұрын
DDR6 will definitely change for servers. CAMM2 will likely be the only way forward for clients
@quibster
@quibster 12 күн бұрын
finally someone speaking sense in terms of memory. thanks for this informative interview.
@lojewski100
@lojewski100 12 күн бұрын
FYI: His name is Bill Starke
@MrJacker1991
@MrJacker1991 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for uploading. Keep them coming! :D
@wileamyp
@wileamyp 16 күн бұрын
If just portable teleprompters are around and you could bring one to SC... I mean, you look in pain while reading out all those El Cap stats 😂
@1samm1
@1samm1 22 күн бұрын
What's the target architecture for a piece of software to be compiled to run on these things? And what do those chips slot into?
@cryptocsguy9282
@cryptocsguy9282 22 күн бұрын
I was about who ask who the hell is "rebellions" glad you explained it
@Dogo.R
@Dogo.R 22 күн бұрын
From competitive gambling to the AI bubble. That company sure is on a journey.
@cryptocsguy9282
@cryptocsguy9282 22 күн бұрын
@Dogo.R Quick ,every fabless chip company gotta switch to some AI processor cos capitalism demands it
@jannegrey
@jannegrey 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for suggesting "Computer Architecture: A Quantitative approach". I'm reading six edition and it's great. I do have to say that topic that I was trying to understand - Cache Associativity wasn't initially very easy to understand. Took me a couple of days. And now that I finally understood it (I think) Cache Coherency and things like snooping are also a bit "tough".
@cryptocsguy9282
@cryptocsguy9282 25 күн бұрын
@jannegrey Thanks for mentioning that book I'll go buy it now :P
@Blingchachink
@Blingchachink Ай бұрын
Thank god for 1.25x playback for all these good KZbinrs and their lisps
@Mrgaton
@Mrgaton Ай бұрын
🍷🥱
@ProjectPhysX
@ProjectPhysX Ай бұрын
I want to see OpenCL on this thing :P
@CaptainMcShotgun41
@CaptainMcShotgun41 Ай бұрын
🧀
@jannegrey
@jannegrey Ай бұрын
Yay Cheese!
@VideogamesAsArt
@VideogamesAsArt Ай бұрын
KZbin is having a stroke with those video timestamps.
@doge8530
@doge8530 Ай бұрын
Dr. Ian Cutress casually walking by at 1:32
@ChrisJackson-js8rd
@ChrisJackson-js8rd Ай бұрын
so very true that it's an underserved market probably the segment that can best provide a start-up with the breathing space it will need to grow just look at the continuing demand for 2017 sparc on 20 nm
@chrisrothstein6157
@chrisrothstein6157 Ай бұрын
This was great. Very concise and informative
@Veptis
@Veptis Ай бұрын
Would we want a Cloud500? Where Azure competes with Alibaba and AWS (or any other non A providers) on who can allocate the largest instance to run linpack?
@smileinurhand
@smileinurhand 2 ай бұрын
Intel & AMD need more improvement. Intel Price is also too much for this spec 👎 Mac M4 is rocking the field with Les Cost. Can buy a Mac mini M4 at a VGA cost.
@SaschaRobitzki
@SaschaRobitzki 2 ай бұрын
When will your review of the 285K be ready?
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын
to be fair the 245k and 265k are the highlight of Arrow Lake and much more interesting. The 285k is overpriced and consumes too much power.
@MrNagant007
@MrNagant007 2 ай бұрын
A lot of it is likely software issues. I have a 10th gen Intel and have a weird issue where sometimes I don't get a video post from my dedicated GPU. I have to plug into the integrated chip (which is disabled) and toggle it on and off again. I chalk it up to an issue with Dell.
@jannegrey
@jannegrey 2 ай бұрын
Stability was one of the few "wins" Intel still had over AMD. Even though AMD was managing to shorten the time between launch and full stability with each generation.
@catsspat
@catsspat 2 ай бұрын
Ooh, this is like the moment when a mother calls her kid by his full legal name.... Intel just has to be #1. They saw how AMD messed up the Zen5 launch, and had to mess up harder, to be #1 at messed up launches.
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile 2 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for that heat
@spuchoa
@spuchoa 2 ай бұрын
Hope Intel can fix things by the end of this year and if not, it will be very bad for Intel and for us customers.
@Drumaier
@Drumaier 2 ай бұрын
Gelsinger destroyed Intel 😢
@klyplays
@klyplays 2 ай бұрын
I don't get how tf Arrowlake pushed off its Mem controller into another tile when they just moved it on same tile in LNL.
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын
LNL is tiny so it's not as expensive to produce. Arrow Lake is huge so it's much cheaper to have the memory controller on another die.
@Veptis
@Veptis 2 ай бұрын
I mean, ARL is out of stock anyway. Also LNL has been pushed early and works?
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын
it was actually less than 1 year between Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake. Intel's main problem with Arrow Lake comes down to the power draw most likely as it did with 13th/14th gen and the motherboards.
@Lemurion287
@Lemurion287 2 ай бұрын
Looks like Zen5 dodged a bullet. While definitely an underwhelming launch with definite issues, it seems to be a perfectly functional product. It's not really much if any better than Zen4 for gaming, though it does seem better in some workloads especially under Linux. The thing is that it doesn't have to be a huge step forward if it's competing with something that's not even as good as it's predecessor and isn't reliable either.
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 2 ай бұрын
You’re assuming Nova Lake & Panther Lake will be better than Arrow Lake. Please lower your expectations if you don’t want more disappointment.
@Lemurion287
@Lemurion287 2 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 nope. I'm making no assumptions about future products. I'm simply saying that AMD had an underwhelming launch with Zen5, which provided an opening for Arrow Lake. Arrow Lake wasn't good enough to take advantage of that opening, so Zen5 got lucky.
@JoeL-xk6bo
@JoeL-xk6bo 2 ай бұрын
Zen 5 did what it was mreant to do, massive uplift on the datacenter to make AMD more billions. Arrow LAke's target maximum was still behind the 7800X3D FYI.
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын
@@JoeL-xk6bo for gaming maybe, but all CPUS Zen2 and above are more than good enough for gaming. Arrow Lake is a good first redesign, the price is wrong and these stability issues are a problem.
@lost4356
@lost4356 2 ай бұрын
Many People still dont understand currently trying to compete with likes of TSMC and get more patnership to buy their nodes they building new fab designing new nodes so their target is not only for 1-2year but long term and i hope they succed because currently TSMC is market leader used by AMD,Nvidia,Apple etc, also if intel just went AMD route and outsourcing semiconductor from beginning they will do just fine, but because they stuck in 14nm for so long it kinda bite them because their funding issues they fumbling down along the way. They clearly sacrifice their end customer with the arrow lake release by rush then also planning with only just one gen for the 1851 because they just to appease investor and clearly they didnt want relies too much in TSMC itself.
@SaschaRobitzki
@SaschaRobitzki 2 ай бұрын
I hope at least this approach drives the prices down, especially of the motherboards. Prices of Z890 Thunderbolt 5 boards dropped considerably after launch in my country. They con iron out the quirks after I got my system; please not earlier.
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 2 ай бұрын
& 7800X3D jumped in price!😂
@SaschaRobitzki
@SaschaRobitzki 2 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 That's fine; I don't game. And I need more than 8 cores. 😆
@rattlehead999
@rattlehead999 2 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 To be fair, the 7800x3d gives you 10-20% better gaming performance with a 4090 at 1080p over a 7700 non-X, while the 5700x3d gets the same gaming performance as the 7700 non-X while being on a RAM(DDR4) and Motherboard(AM4) that are twice as cheap as AM5 and DDR5 and the CPU itself is much cheaper too. Zen4 non-X(65W TDP/88W PPT) CPUs are 15-25% faster than Zen3 65W TDP/PPT CPUs, while costing significantly more, so they aren't worth it considering that Zen5 is barely an upgrade.
@SiliconSteak
@SiliconSteak 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the thoughts. Looking forward to Chips and Cheese deep dive into Arrow Lake when you guys get your hands on it
@SaschaRobitzki
@SaschaRobitzki 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, where is the review?
@rurutuM
@rurutuM 2 ай бұрын
i want to know who is getting fired for these not ready to launch rush to market products???
@jiso5232
@jiso5232 2 ай бұрын
Nobody. It's Gelsinger's strategy. Rather to launch an unfinished underperforming product in time than to delay the launch. MLID mentioned this change already in February 2023: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-7nYWadrCKiqc
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 2 ай бұрын
@@jiso5232Agreed. Intel will layoff another 5000 employees. But Pat will stay of course…
@CyberSkynet-o2b
@CyberSkynet-o2b 2 ай бұрын
Bro is that Noodler's Ink on your hand?
@chipsandcheesecc
@chipsandcheesecc 2 ай бұрын
It's Pilot Iroshizuku Shin-kai ink, I prefer writing down my notes and scripts on paper with a fountain pen.....
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi- 2 ай бұрын
This video shall go down in history as the great 'Intel's Smurf Hand's Truth Bomb.'
@LouisWaweru
@LouisWaweru 2 ай бұрын
I don't understand the conclusion that this is Intel's fault. I imagine the fixes will arrive as BIOS updates, placing the blame there.
@spankeyfish
@spankeyfish 2 ай бұрын
Intel writes the microcode for their CPUs, it's just that a BIOS update is the only way to deliver updates to the microcode.
@LouisWaweru
@LouisWaweru 2 ай бұрын
That's quite the leap to think microcode is the problem. CPUs don't control the boot process. Anything i possible, I just don't see the evidence for all the fingerpointing yet. I mean I think it's Intel's fault for not testing all of these configurations first, but the impression that the chips are defective seems really hasty and unjustified.
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 2 ай бұрын
@@LouisWaweruWhen Wendell @ Level1tech had problems with ARL in both Windows & Linux, it’s a hardware bug! For Intel to mess up even in Linux is a true achievement!
@LouisWaweru
@LouisWaweru 2 ай бұрын
​@@tringuyen7519 Hang on a minute, I can't come up with excuses that quickly.
@hjdorn
@hjdorn 2 ай бұрын
Chips and Cheese not recieving a review sample is all you need to know about the current state of affairs.
@JBrinx18
@JBrinx18 2 ай бұрын
I mean, he only has about 1500 subscribers. Reviewers regularly don't get sampled by chip companies with many times more subscribers
@qlum
@qlum 2 ай бұрын
@@JBrinx18 It's not about that the site has a reputation, not everything is about viewer / reader count.
@haze6277
@haze6277 2 ай бұрын
It's really tough to give any guarantees on completely new design. When you incrementing you can include new features in a design as you verify them, otherwise you need to reserve more time just to get sure. Intel doesn't have that time.
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 2 ай бұрын
You're overstating to a massive degree how much Arrow Lake is "completely new" relative to other older generations.
@tim3172
@tim3172 2 ай бұрын
@@wewillrockyou1986 You're blindly ignorant to the complete overhaul of Arrow Lake. It's a migration to a tile architecture from a monolithic one. It's probably the largest architecture change since.......... Conroe? Nehalem?