Do you know what the approximate selling price is, thanks.?
@jannegrey4 күн бұрын
So it increases utilization of GPU's? Especially during training part? By better scheduling stuff.
@jannegrey4 күн бұрын
You will soon be covering CES. I look forward to see it.
@quibster4 күн бұрын
accelerator accelerator? for accelerating your accelerator?
@atanasyourdanov22225 күн бұрын
Nope, Power10 is not the first one with its own logo...
@waldmensch20107 күн бұрын
nice, but what will cost this card?
@docbrody7 күн бұрын
I got so nervous just watching him fling that thing around.
@chipsandcheesecc4 күн бұрын
Haha, it was just a mechanical sample with the heatsinks on as a show piece so I was probably flinging it a bit more than I would with an actual card.
@1samm17 күн бұрын
Thanks for introducing us to that product! Attempt at constructive criticism: when showing a product in your hands, maybe try and stay slow with your movement if any is needed at all, and deliberate, highlighting a point you make
@chipsandcheesecc4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the constructive criticism! This was actually the last short we filmed on a 2 hour, 4 short, gauntlet on the last day of SC24 and this was the 4th or 5th take and I was very much rushing at this point because I was exhausted by this time in the show, but that is no excuse for rushing... I should have taken 5 minutes and relaxed before doing yet another retake which I will try to do in future!
@chipsandcheesecc7 күн бұрын
Editor's note: I said 1.2 teraflops MXINT8 for a single Corsair package, that is incorrect, I meant 1.2 Petaflops of MXINT8 performance per Corsair package. Sorry for the mistake!
@TheParadoxy10 күн бұрын
How does power compare to Zen in something like y-cruncher? What does latency mean in this context? I thought epyc had made huge improvements in something to do with memory?
@whyjay995911 күн бұрын
Pretty interesting. But I'm curious about something; Could an OMI slot potentially be used for other types of components, like another processor? This would weaken the flexibility advantage that CXL has over it.
@dslay0412 күн бұрын
DDR6 will definitely change for servers. CAMM2 will likely be the only way forward for clients
@quibster12 күн бұрын
finally someone speaking sense in terms of memory. thanks for this informative interview.
@lojewski10012 күн бұрын
FYI: His name is Bill Starke
@MrJacker199112 күн бұрын
Thanks for uploading. Keep them coming! :D
@wileamyp16 күн бұрын
If just portable teleprompters are around and you could bring one to SC... I mean, you look in pain while reading out all those El Cap stats 😂
@1samm122 күн бұрын
What's the target architecture for a piece of software to be compiled to run on these things? And what do those chips slot into?
@cryptocsguy928222 күн бұрын
I was about who ask who the hell is "rebellions" glad you explained it
@Dogo.R22 күн бұрын
From competitive gambling to the AI bubble. That company sure is on a journey.
@cryptocsguy928222 күн бұрын
@Dogo.R Quick ,every fabless chip company gotta switch to some AI processor cos capitalism demands it
@jannegrey25 күн бұрын
Thanks for suggesting "Computer Architecture: A Quantitative approach". I'm reading six edition and it's great. I do have to say that topic that I was trying to understand - Cache Associativity wasn't initially very easy to understand. Took me a couple of days. And now that I finally understood it (I think) Cache Coherency and things like snooping are also a bit "tough".
@cryptocsguy928225 күн бұрын
@jannegrey Thanks for mentioning that book I'll go buy it now :P
@BlingchachinkАй бұрын
Thank god for 1.25x playback for all these good KZbinrs and their lisps
@MrgatonАй бұрын
🍷🥱
@ProjectPhysXАй бұрын
I want to see OpenCL on this thing :P
@CaptainMcShotgun41Ай бұрын
🧀
@jannegreyАй бұрын
Yay Cheese!
@VideogamesAsArtАй бұрын
KZbin is having a stroke with those video timestamps.
@doge8530Ай бұрын
Dr. Ian Cutress casually walking by at 1:32
@ChrisJackson-js8rdАй бұрын
so very true that it's an underserved market probably the segment that can best provide a start-up with the breathing space it will need to grow just look at the continuing demand for 2017 sparc on 20 nm
@chrisrothstein6157Ай бұрын
This was great. Very concise and informative
@VeptisАй бұрын
Would we want a Cloud500? Where Azure competes with Alibaba and AWS (or any other non A providers) on who can allocate the largest instance to run linpack?
@smileinurhand2 ай бұрын
Intel & AMD need more improvement. Intel Price is also too much for this spec 👎 Mac M4 is rocking the field with Les Cost. Can buy a Mac mini M4 at a VGA cost.
@SaschaRobitzki2 ай бұрын
When will your review of the 285K be ready?
@rattlehead9992 ай бұрын
to be fair the 245k and 265k are the highlight of Arrow Lake and much more interesting. The 285k is overpriced and consumes too much power.
@MrNagant0072 ай бұрын
A lot of it is likely software issues. I have a 10th gen Intel and have a weird issue where sometimes I don't get a video post from my dedicated GPU. I have to plug into the integrated chip (which is disabled) and toggle it on and off again. I chalk it up to an issue with Dell.
@jannegrey2 ай бұрын
Stability was one of the few "wins" Intel still had over AMD. Even though AMD was managing to shorten the time between launch and full stability with each generation.
@catsspat2 ай бұрын
Ooh, this is like the moment when a mother calls her kid by his full legal name.... Intel just has to be #1. They saw how AMD messed up the Zen5 launch, and had to mess up harder, to be #1 at messed up launches.
@ItsAkile2 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for that heat
@spuchoa2 ай бұрын
Hope Intel can fix things by the end of this year and if not, it will be very bad for Intel and for us customers.
@Drumaier2 ай бұрын
Gelsinger destroyed Intel 😢
@klyplays2 ай бұрын
I don't get how tf Arrowlake pushed off its Mem controller into another tile when they just moved it on same tile in LNL.
@rattlehead9992 ай бұрын
LNL is tiny so it's not as expensive to produce. Arrow Lake is huge so it's much cheaper to have the memory controller on another die.
@Veptis2 ай бұрын
I mean, ARL is out of stock anyway. Also LNL has been pushed early and works?
@rattlehead9992 ай бұрын
it was actually less than 1 year between Meteor Lake and Lunar Lake. Intel's main problem with Arrow Lake comes down to the power draw most likely as it did with 13th/14th gen and the motherboards.
@Lemurion2872 ай бұрын
Looks like Zen5 dodged a bullet. While definitely an underwhelming launch with definite issues, it seems to be a perfectly functional product. It's not really much if any better than Zen4 for gaming, though it does seem better in some workloads especially under Linux. The thing is that it doesn't have to be a huge step forward if it's competing with something that's not even as good as it's predecessor and isn't reliable either.
@tringuyen75192 ай бұрын
You’re assuming Nova Lake & Panther Lake will be better than Arrow Lake. Please lower your expectations if you don’t want more disappointment.
@Lemurion2872 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 nope. I'm making no assumptions about future products. I'm simply saying that AMD had an underwhelming launch with Zen5, which provided an opening for Arrow Lake. Arrow Lake wasn't good enough to take advantage of that opening, so Zen5 got lucky.
@JoeL-xk6bo2 ай бұрын
Zen 5 did what it was mreant to do, massive uplift on the datacenter to make AMD more billions. Arrow LAke's target maximum was still behind the 7800X3D FYI.
@rattlehead9992 ай бұрын
@@JoeL-xk6bo for gaming maybe, but all CPUS Zen2 and above are more than good enough for gaming. Arrow Lake is a good first redesign, the price is wrong and these stability issues are a problem.
@lost43562 ай бұрын
Many People still dont understand currently trying to compete with likes of TSMC and get more patnership to buy their nodes they building new fab designing new nodes so their target is not only for 1-2year but long term and i hope they succed because currently TSMC is market leader used by AMD,Nvidia,Apple etc, also if intel just went AMD route and outsourcing semiconductor from beginning they will do just fine, but because they stuck in 14nm for so long it kinda bite them because their funding issues they fumbling down along the way. They clearly sacrifice their end customer with the arrow lake release by rush then also planning with only just one gen for the 1851 because they just to appease investor and clearly they didnt want relies too much in TSMC itself.
@SaschaRobitzki2 ай бұрын
I hope at least this approach drives the prices down, especially of the motherboards. Prices of Z890 Thunderbolt 5 boards dropped considerably after launch in my country. They con iron out the quirks after I got my system; please not earlier.
@tringuyen75192 ай бұрын
& 7800X3D jumped in price!😂
@SaschaRobitzki2 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 That's fine; I don't game. And I need more than 8 cores. 😆
@rattlehead9992 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 To be fair, the 7800x3d gives you 10-20% better gaming performance with a 4090 at 1080p over a 7700 non-X, while the 5700x3d gets the same gaming performance as the 7700 non-X while being on a RAM(DDR4) and Motherboard(AM4) that are twice as cheap as AM5 and DDR5 and the CPU itself is much cheaper too. Zen4 non-X(65W TDP/88W PPT) CPUs are 15-25% faster than Zen3 65W TDP/PPT CPUs, while costing significantly more, so they aren't worth it considering that Zen5 is barely an upgrade.
@SiliconSteak2 ай бұрын
Appreciate the thoughts. Looking forward to Chips and Cheese deep dive into Arrow Lake when you guys get your hands on it
@SaschaRobitzki2 ай бұрын
Yeah, where is the review?
@rurutuM2 ай бұрын
i want to know who is getting fired for these not ready to launch rush to market products???
@jiso52322 ай бұрын
Nobody. It's Gelsinger's strategy. Rather to launch an unfinished underperforming product in time than to delay the launch. MLID mentioned this change already in February 2023: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eH-7nYWadrCKiqc
@tringuyen75192 ай бұрын
@@jiso5232Agreed. Intel will layoff another 5000 employees. But Pat will stay of course…
@CyberSkynet-o2b2 ай бұрын
Bro is that Noodler's Ink on your hand?
@chipsandcheesecc2 ай бұрын
It's Pilot Iroshizuku Shin-kai ink, I prefer writing down my notes and scripts on paper with a fountain pen.....
@-iIIiiiiiIiiiiIIIiiIi-2 ай бұрын
This video shall go down in history as the great 'Intel's Smurf Hand's Truth Bomb.'
@LouisWaweru2 ай бұрын
I don't understand the conclusion that this is Intel's fault. I imagine the fixes will arrive as BIOS updates, placing the blame there.
@spankeyfish2 ай бұрын
Intel writes the microcode for their CPUs, it's just that a BIOS update is the only way to deliver updates to the microcode.
@LouisWaweru2 ай бұрын
That's quite the leap to think microcode is the problem. CPUs don't control the boot process. Anything i possible, I just don't see the evidence for all the fingerpointing yet. I mean I think it's Intel's fault for not testing all of these configurations first, but the impression that the chips are defective seems really hasty and unjustified.
@tringuyen75192 ай бұрын
@@LouisWaweruWhen Wendell @ Level1tech had problems with ARL in both Windows & Linux, it’s a hardware bug! For Intel to mess up even in Linux is a true achievement!
@LouisWaweru2 ай бұрын
@@tringuyen7519 Hang on a minute, I can't come up with excuses that quickly.
@hjdorn2 ай бұрын
Chips and Cheese not recieving a review sample is all you need to know about the current state of affairs.
@JBrinx182 ай бұрын
I mean, he only has about 1500 subscribers. Reviewers regularly don't get sampled by chip companies with many times more subscribers
@qlum2 ай бұрын
@@JBrinx18 It's not about that the site has a reputation, not everything is about viewer / reader count.
@haze62772 ай бұрын
It's really tough to give any guarantees on completely new design. When you incrementing you can include new features in a design as you verify them, otherwise you need to reserve more time just to get sure. Intel doesn't have that time.
@wewillrockyou19862 ай бұрын
You're overstating to a massive degree how much Arrow Lake is "completely new" relative to other older generations.
@tim31722 ай бұрын
@@wewillrockyou1986 You're blindly ignorant to the complete overhaul of Arrow Lake. It's a migration to a tile architecture from a monolithic one. It's probably the largest architecture change since.......... Conroe? Nehalem?