They’re two entirely different classes with different utilities, etc. What specifically are you referring to

Spymaster + gale/sac is great

Pretty much same principles but it is increasingly important to keep wither on at all times as compared to diabolist so you want to make sure you are using cdf and cata on cd

Hellcaller excels on bigger pulls. Diabolist excels on ST/2 and 3 add pulls. (From my experience)

Same as you I played both and diabolist felt really good on single target and cleave but on big packs hellcaller trucks

Yea I haven’t played diabolist in a minute. For low keys not really that big of a deal anyway just play whatever you like/are more comfortable with

There is a questline you have to do to get the green fire.

​@@veronikamajerova4564 not available anymore

There is a tome on the ah u can buy that will lead into a questchain granting you the greenfire

A fellow man of culture I see

You’re going to cata when everything is grouped so why not get some curses out

You can prio on smaller packs if you need/want to, yes. It is less overall damage but more efficient for timer since for example in this key your tank can’t pull next pack until the giant is dead. You’d only spam rain if you’re playing the talent inferno

Man it sucks so bad how aff lock feels like there's a cap on what they can do. I love the playstyle and theme of aff lock but it doesn't matter how good you play it the dps just isn't gonna go up. I'm watching this video now for the same reason

Just play the soul fire build

@@Vlox_Gaming Does shadowburn just do better in the higher keys? Or is that a small difference between dungeons or group comps mainly?

Soul fire is easier to play and build isn’t super important until 13s if even probably more so 14s. Soul fire build is more overall/aoe, shadowburn build is more cleave/prio damage so yes you could decide based on comp/dungeon if you wanted to

Read the description, there's 3 guides for Warlock

The content you've been watching might be from before the 11.0.5 patch

Diabolist got a slight nerf a few weeks ago and I have been playing only hellcaller since

I cant believe how bad it really got .. fo you people need guide for taking a shit too ?

@@Vlox_Gaming Is it even viable anymore? I would assume so if its just slight

Go to the Isle of Thunder in Pandaria, kill rares until you get the Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion, It will start a quest chain. Pretty easy to do nowadays. Or you can buy the Tome with gold on the AH if there are still people who farm those on your server.

Did you watch the whole dungeon or 5 seconds of the first pull?

@@Vlox_Gaming, you're a good player. I'm not debating that, but the random Ret Pally is just doing so much more damage ., and you did get out damaged by the tank with CD's used I'm attempting to point out how lackluster warlock really is not you as a player , I have no doubt your good and CE QUALITY

The question is skewed: what's the point of playing non-meta classes is your real question. And the answer is: why not? Is this MDI ? Often times people playing off classes with the same RIO as another fotm player will know and play the mechanics better

@@HDSFATDPS its not about meta all Ranged DPS is 20% or more behind melee right now in the hands of general players you have to exteramly exceptional to out dps a random ret pally playing a 4 button class with six or seven ways to cheese mechs

I'm not saying that you're saying I'm bad. My original question still stands though because I just think you're focusing on biased information (literally one pull) and trying to make an entire case out of it. You're pointing out one pull where I'm PURPOSELY single targeting the big mob and where there 5 or 6 meaningless little adds that get padded on by the tank and melee which contribute to the higher overall as you point out. Most of the overall damage up to the first boss is pointless pad thanks to those meaningless little adds that die in 5 or 10 seconds (which you should basically be ignoring as destro). Also, if you go to the end of the video my end of dungeon overall is the same as the other two melee that have an additional warrior buff over me. We also time the key with about 2 minutes left. Seems like warlock is fine to me man. Overall damage on details is not the end all, be all metric of spec viability and success and I feel like people put way too much value into it sometimes without any thought. For example, I can go into Necrotic Wake with a full pad build and spam rain of fires on necromancer packs to inflate the hell out of my end of dungeon overall but what am I really accomplishing by doing that other than prolonging the necro packs and raising the likelihood that my party wipes. In that scenario if I'm doing that then I am 100% playing wrong even though it might not be visible through the overall.

Thank you very much! Happy to hear this

These are the best trinkets I have right now

@Vlox_Gaming lol, how strange you don't have the egg or spyweb

He does? The right bar is overall

@caseyneistat1071 I know but I mean which skill did what amount of dmg

I will try to start doing that. Alot of the keys I already have recorded do not have that unfortunately

With doom you need to spread yes

What is it that’s not working

Channel demonfire

I’m not using plater

@ gg

Sealed tome of lost legion gives you quest for green fire

Correct you don’t really need to spread shadow embrace in large aoe. You send on the target with corruption/agony/ua for tormented crescendo procs