Aesthetically, the Wilton vice seems best. In my mind it seems like a good design but I heard a shop teacher say that, fully extended his students were able to bend the tube, surprisingly. I think how one uses it could mean everything. I doubt if I would ever have a problem. I do like my Charles Parker and the tension adjustment on the handle, seems like that should have become universal.
@GoldmansGarage9 сағат бұрын
@@robertlaveyra9940 the handle set screw is very useful. I’ve seen several other brands where someone modified the meatball to add a set screw. And I’ll agree the aesthetic of a Wilton bullet looks very cool. But for daily work especially in a shop of rough users it’ll break. That said 60% or more of standard use it will be fine
@darrenmulvey37104 күн бұрын
I have an Athol 614 1/2 I started to restore about 10 years ago, the ball was broken off the screw. I have since retired and have time but I can't find the screw, ball, or handle. I have the vise with the nut and keeper pin. any ideas where to get parts? You are the only one I've found that could possibly help, thanks
@GoldmansGarage4 күн бұрын
@@darrenmulvey3710 so there are a few options. Athol used a buttressed thread not an acme thread. One can be turned on a lathe by a machinist and a new meatball can be forged milled or shaped on a lathe and pressure set and pinned. You can also find a similar era 614 1/2 that’s broken and harvest parts. If you join bench vises forever (Facebook group) it’s possible someone has the part. You can reach out to @kendrickmachineshop as well I belive he can make one
@darrenmulvey37104 күн бұрын
thank you verymuch, that was quick@GoldmansGarage
@GoldmansGarage4 күн бұрын
@ quiet snowy day
@wolfenvonschitz77985 күн бұрын
Your collection is pretty impressive. Do you know what is indicated by the "468" and "508" on your Athol? I have an Athol No 30 I'm restoring that has "1033" and "964" in the same areas and it seems impossible to find any info on what these numbers denote.
@GoldmansGarage4 күн бұрын
@@wolfenvonschitz7798 those are older manufacturing numbers as they were cast. The pre 1923 models were marked in that way
@jordansb87 күн бұрын
Im looking at what i think is a reed 104 vise on marketplace. They only have one picture of the side with just "104" stamped on one side. It is missing one of the jaws. Would i be able to get a jaw replacement for this, and have you seen reed with just "104" stamped on the side not "NO 104"? It is black and looks like a reed 104 with 3 mounting holes.
@GoldmansGarage7 күн бұрын
@@jordansb8 could be a reed. Could be Yost. And yes you can get jaw replacements Logan Kendrick makes them amongst others
@jordansb86 күн бұрын
Apparently it has “national” on one side and 104 on the pictured side. Have you heard of this brand looks identical to a reed. Would it be worth anything and would the jaws on a 104 reed possibly fit this national.
@GoldmansGarage6 күн бұрын
@ it’s not one I’m immediately know. Join the FB group bench vises forever. And post a picture asking there. It is likely made by reed for a smaller company but that’s an educated guess
@Dancing_Alone_wRentals18 күн бұрын
I too would want to work with that Athol. Spinning the vise handle was fun when I was a kid, and even today it brings a smile to my face. But when I need to get something done, it would be nice to have that vise slide up to the work.
@GoldmansGarage18 күн бұрын
@@Dancing_Alone_wRentals look for a larger Stephens too
@jennifermatchett133022 күн бұрын
I have the exact same 3" Colton vise that you have. I am also missing the mounting hardware (if any came with vise). This is the first time I have seen another one, so there are at least 2 in existence.
@davidgreen593824 күн бұрын
I've got one just like that, except for being a clamp on.
@GoldmansGarage23 күн бұрын
@@davidgreen5938 I’ve seen pictures of those
@carlkulyk36625 күн бұрын
I like your style of presentation in your video’s.
@GoldmansGarage24 күн бұрын
Thank you. I appreciate that. I try to make them approachable
@SWW-88828 күн бұрын
What is the difference in the athol 614 and 614X ?
@GoldmansGarage28 күн бұрын
@@SWW-888 the 614 was the base design. Then for a little bit they did an X and an N iirc the X has removable jaws and the N has cast in jaws. (I might have that backwards)
@SWW-88827 күн бұрын
@ Thanks
@КонстантинИлясов-л7б29 күн бұрын
Чё за хрень? 😂😂😂😂 А дым , куда хочу туда и дую😂😂😂
@veracious9929 күн бұрын
Other Germans...Leinen..Brockhaus Heuer...LES and Meier & Weichelt.
@veracious9929 күн бұрын
Boley and Company opened in Germany in 1870 and produced lathes, vises and other tools for watch and clock makers. Their tools are renowned for being of the highest quality and precision.17 July 2019
@ChristopherNayar-t2cАй бұрын
I restored my craftsman 5176 but I now need to do my 5171 and I found that the main nut is broken but I my along the bottom and no damage to the threaded area. Do you know if there is another common vise that I could get the nut from to put in my craftsman 5171? Or anything to replace it with? Or if I should just use jb weld putty to repair the bottom of the nut, the part that slides into the static jaw is broken off
@GoldmansGarageАй бұрын
@@ChristopherNayar-t2c bullet nose style with 3.5” jaws I believe the only doner you could use would be another 5176 or the stationary of the same size. Though I think that’s acme thread and you could get new acme thread from McMaster Carr but make sure you measure it accurately
@ChristopherNayar-t2cАй бұрын
@ thanks. My 5176 is all restored now, it’s a smaller bullet nose. My larger bullet nose is the 5171 and the nut was broken when I got it home and got it unfrozen. It was quite a disappointment.
@ChristopherNayar-t2cАй бұрын
I did just slightly over 4 hours for a vise. Columbian 224 1/2 coachmaker I believe, don’t feel like going out to double check in the garage
@mauricegladuАй бұрын
Do you have any leads for parts. I need a screw.
@GoldmansGarageАй бұрын
@@mauricegladu I’m afraid I do not in general. You’ll need to know the model. But the best bet is to find a broken one that you can harvest. Athol used a buttressed thread not an acme or square thread
@tomallen6073Ай бұрын
Would the Athol vises have anything to do with Starret? I have 2 bullets from the 60’s, great vises, have 3 of their modern clamp on vises, I think originally the clamp on vises were made in Croatia then moved to China, very handy for field work.
@GoldmansGarageАй бұрын
@@tomallen6073 athol was owned by starrett from the early 1920s on
@hector7714Ай бұрын
What you think is better wilton 1765 or athol 6241/2
@GoldmansGarageАй бұрын
@@hector7714 athol. Hands down. Assuming similar conditions of the vise
@MrSpaceRattАй бұрын
A tripod would improve your videos 1000%
@jeffa847Ай бұрын
I think Wilton today is owned by JPW Industries - who also owns Jet and Powermatic Baileigh(sp?) Axiom Precision and Edwards
@GoldmansGarageАй бұрын
@@jeffa847 it’s a shame how many companies are owned by larger ones. Wish there were still hundreds or thousands of smaller companies
@warthog02Ай бұрын
Without the stepped feel its probably not a peter wright. Its possible that its a hay budden, though part of me is leaning toward it being swedish. A wire wheeling would help clear it up
@warthog02Ай бұрын
I did a 7 hour round trip to get a 300 lb Trenton. Though the most I've driven for a vise is maybe 1.5 hours round trip
@thomaslawry5238Ай бұрын
Thank you for the chronology, perhaps you could do a whiteboard diagram,.. for clarity. Did Wilton copy the Bugatti vice of the 1920s for the US Navy tender contract.? Bugatti vices are still available - albeit at a price $$$$. Yes, there are fantastic vices from Athol & Reed etc per what you said. My friend found a Wilton bullet made in Italy..
@Thehippiehobbitgrows2 ай бұрын
its still in ohio but yes everyone should be able to have it
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@Thehippiehobbitgrows unfortunately the closet one for me is still a 3 hour drive. Very sad
@RBKeown2 ай бұрын
That's damn funny 😂
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
I stand by what I said. The first ever used in a tv show cgi does not hold up so much over time. The story. The acting. The overall whole. It’s better
@RBKeown2 ай бұрын
@GoldmansGarage reminds me of Leonard and Sheldon deciding what to watch. Love it.
@dragonchr152 ай бұрын
that opinion should have been vindicated once it was revealed the b5 creator pitched the idea to paramount and they passed on it….only to produce an almost exact copy a few years later callled deep space nine
@MegaRiffraff2 ай бұрын
👍🏻
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@MegaRiffraff thank you
@Michael-mv3kc2 ай бұрын
I agree 100 percent
@_BigLife_2 ай бұрын
Lol
@KB-qi3zi2 ай бұрын
Curious what styling changes you are referring to that helped date the vise. I have a 603 and trying to figure out how old it is.
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
Columbian had an interesting history as many manufacturing business did. For a little bit prentiss made vises for them essentially just rebranded prentiss models (they did so for Yost as well). Columbian had a welded model with a sloped back. The model in this video is an earlier model when they had the factory in Ohio and did the casting in house but before they made some changes which lasted the majority of their production history
@JacobAHull-nx6rx2 ай бұрын
HEY Jeff!
@KendrickMachineShop2 ай бұрын
I love that little 209! Definitely a one of a kind, unique piece!
@1270692 ай бұрын
Record 18-1/2 is 10” jaw 280lb ish . Wooden in England also made a 10” vise I make the lambco 1118 vise . 11-1/4 jaw x 18” opening . Kinetic jaw on its own weighs 280lb . Weight is around 550lbs . My first vise I made was 10” jaw x 14” opening
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
I saw that in the BVF group. You also made that limited run of 10” jaws. Those are impressive. I have the 58 back from my welder buddy and it’s almost time to make the “brief history of Prentiss” video. Thinking I should do a short video on swivel jaw vises too and what makes them useful
@1270692 ай бұрын
Please don’t , I don’t anymore encouragement or inspiration 😂
@ReedPipeTools2 ай бұрын
Love that "finest vises ever made". Thanks!
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
I would encourage you to bring them back with the R series design
@JacobAHull-nx6rx2 ай бұрын
2hat do you think of Columbian. I jus5 picked up a 504
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
Columbians are very underrated. Considered very reliable and great users. For some reason they are often undervalued and don’t command great price
@_BigLife_2 ай бұрын
That is going to look good
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@_BigLife_ I think so too. Tomorrow or Friday
@KB-qi3zi2 ай бұрын
Just curious. Is your vise labeled Athol… or A.M. Co.?
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@KB-qi3zi it’s a pre 1923 model. A 91. The casting is Athol Mach Co
@Barb-k9o2 ай бұрын
My husband recently passed away and I found a Reed 108 by his garage. It's very rusty, is on a stand, appears intact. How would you suggest I might sell it?
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@Barb-k9o condition matters quite a bit. A 108 can be worth a decent amount. My condolences on your loss. May I ask where you are located as if you are selling it i potentially would be interested in picking it up
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@Barb-k9o I’d also be happy give you advice on how to price it. That said if you have any tool oriented family members good tools are always great to keep in the family
@Barb-k9o2 ай бұрын
I am in Lockwood NY. Thank you for your kind words. No one in the family is interested in the vice, so I would like to sell it. Any help in pricing it would be appreciated, or if you are interested in it yourself, please let me know.
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@ I’m looking to see if there is a way to dm you. That’s a little west of Binghamton. I’m in Sullivan county so about 2.5 hourish drive
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@ KZbin no longer has DMs. You can find me on TikTok under the same Goldman’s garage and we can dm there. I’ll ask you for pictures of the vise and can help you figure out pricing
@veracious992 ай бұрын
How are you...great channel. Recently got hold of a Reed No. 105. Need help dating it. Are there resources for this. I know its pre WW2. Have pics if anyone is willing to help. Thanks. Evan from Australia.
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@veracious99 on the dynamic jaw of the reed it will have a 3 or 4 number stamp. That is the date of manufacture. So 912 for example would be September 1912
@veracious992 ай бұрын
@GoldmansGarage ok...its 221. So Feb 1921. Cheers. Also has 76 stamped up higher...some sort of production no.?
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@ yes the 76 is likely on multiple parts during assembly so the correctly fitted parts went together
@veracious992 ай бұрын
Paint stripped a few coats of black off...base coat seemed to be a light green. Would this be the original paint. Or possibly a undercoat. What color traditionally were they?
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@ reeds were black with the letters in red
@_BigLife_2 ай бұрын
Very cool and awesome history
@_BigLife_2 ай бұрын
Very nice find. Looking forward to see what you do with it.
@GoldmansGarage2 ай бұрын
@@_BigLife_ all depends. Really need to finish the 3 or 4 I have taken apart now and get those listed for sale. 2” and 2.5” are very collectible so might be sold before I get around to making it pretty
@_BigLife_3 ай бұрын
Very nice vise, and great video. I'm going to say green paint. My Bison FPU tricked me up on terminology.
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
@@_BigLife_ yes that design is a bit different. I look forward to when I eventually pick one up to take apart
@_BigLife_3 ай бұрын
@@GoldmansGarage it definitely takes a little fiddling width to get the fitment, correct.
@donchoate133 ай бұрын
Do u know what color an Athol 624 1/2 originally was? It looks like there is some turquoise paint remnants on it at the present. Idk if that’s original or not. Thank you.
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
@@donchoate13 that is the original paint is was medium light blue green turquoise with grey and other flecks in it. Join the bench vises forever group on FB and you can see some pictures of NOS examples that a few members have collected The 624 1/2 is a great vise. If you restore it I’d love to see a video showing it off. Tag me in it if you do
@andyguss18613 ай бұрын
I'd road trip for a good patternmakers vise or a Studley type piano vise.
@tonylenge4243 ай бұрын
Nice addition! You know allot about vices, I have a Parker No. A, a small vice. I never see it for sale. How rare is it? Or is it just common.
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
So the Parker no a should be 25 pounds have a jaw width of 3.5” and was the smallest of its series. It’s a slightly lighter weight model. I found it in a catalog from 1912 which you can see if you join the Facebook group bench vises forever. It’s in the files section at the top of the page. I belive this model was not produced after the 1920s definitely not in the 30s as 1930 was when Parker relabeled all its model numbers for basically the last time. That vise should be perfect for home owner and lighter use projects and should continue to last generations. If you are looking to restore it I recommend looking at vise restoration videos by @m7metalwork and @uwannawatch. Both have great restoration videos which will give you the info you need
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
@@tonylenge424 oh and on rarity. It’s relatively rare or unusual. Not very hard to find but not really common. It had an original cost in 1912 of $6
@tonylenge4243 ай бұрын
Really appreciate all the info. Thank you for taking the time..
@randyroy40743 ай бұрын
Great video. I have a Vost 104 that's so distressed looking I had to have it. Can you tell me anything about it. There's not much info.about them on the web.
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
@@randyroy4074 what else does it say. The Yost 104 was produced for awhile and very likely looks like other similar vintage reed and hollands vises. At one point they were made in the same factory. There are slight differences. Yosts if that era are often a bit heavier then the hollands or reeds. Restored a yost 104 around a year ago. Nice gentleman needing one for his garage bought it
@randyroy40743 ай бұрын
Been a machinist 50 years. I collect all kinds of vises. I have 3 bullets. Hard to beat vintage Wilton on quality.
@randyroy40743 ай бұрын
I believe mine is an 024
@xxxmmm59423 ай бұрын
I just saw this video and realize it has been quite sometime. Do you still have the base for 925 ?
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
I have one of them off the top of my head I forget if it’s the 4” or 5” will check tomorrow as I’m working late
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
So the one I have left is the 4” base not the 5”
@sibhuskyguy3 ай бұрын
Tools from the Coopers out in PA I would drive for 24 hours if I had to.. They have a lot of rare/antique/hard to find quality tools at good prices... especially blacksmith/farrier tools..
@swkohnle083 ай бұрын
I live in CT and have driven to NJ for tools. I picked up two nice Charles Parker No. 239X's yesterday that I plan to restore and use.
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
@@swkohnle08 post a link if you film it
@archiehebron89443 ай бұрын
This guy has a vice vice.😂
@GoldmansGarage3 ай бұрын
Yup. It’ll be a nightmare if I ever have to move. At this point there are a few tons of vintage USA cast iron