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@kkin66
@kkin66 5 сағат бұрын
Mad in USA this looks good. ..... as a Full time Supply Chain/Buillder and a "QUALIFY SUPPLIER" (including Customer Suervices.), We Builder needs Material/Qality Control and Approve Vendor List.
@Hanal503
@Hanal503 15 сағат бұрын
Made in China...is made in China😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 jezzzzz
@Hanal503
@Hanal503 16 сағат бұрын
Yessss...very critical hole😅😅😅😅😅😅 I cant stop laughing....complicated ..super complex.Primitive work.
@JohnnyTurbo87
@JohnnyTurbo87 Күн бұрын
Xometry is like driving Uber or anything else in the gig-industry. If it is your only business plan you`ll be hurting, if it`s to supplement your main income you can make some beer money.
@stever3087
@stever3087 4 күн бұрын
I like the way you were able to level both sides of the log in one jig without having to reposition the log. Question though, how would you set up your level/jig if your log has a slight taper on all sides? My guess is do the best you can and that's what I'll do... I'm a metal worker by trade, not a wood worker.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, that's an interesting problem. If push comes to shove, I suppose you could frame up rails and use a router and sled setup to surface it like a planer. I did that for a 3 x 6 oak table to level the top.
@Planetary-Engine
@Planetary-Engine 4 күн бұрын
Good video, terrible subject. But that's just one opinion
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 4 күн бұрын
No worries. Thanks for commenting. In the end. I decided to go my own route and will not be a supplier.
@Cairos1014
@Cairos1014 7 күн бұрын
Super informative, thank you!
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 6 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍
@hunterhammer8968
@hunterhammer8968 8 күн бұрын
What are the dimensions of the part?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 6 күн бұрын
3.5" L x 2.0" W x 1.5" H or 88.9 mm x 50.8 mm x 1.5 mm
@jasonrandolph758
@jasonrandolph758 8 күн бұрын
Do you know if you have to have CNC equipment or do they offer jobs for manual machines?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 6 күн бұрын
I actually don't know. There are certainly jobs that a good manual machinist could do, but I don't remember seeing that as an option when I signed up.
@cgpmachining
@cgpmachining 9 күн бұрын
Thankfully my own parts took off right after my test part was approved, and I never did any work for them.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 8 күн бұрын
That's the way to go.
@christopherdafoe2828
@christopherdafoe2828 11 күн бұрын
Hey @PowerForgeWorkshop , a question on your Nexjen. Are you using the float inside of your coolant tank? All that's visible is the hose going down inside the hole in the enclosed top of the tank. Were you able to put the float inside, or are you just sucking the coolant from the hose going down inside? Thanks
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 11 күн бұрын
Yes, the hose goes down into the pump. The float is stationed next to the gate that lets the fresh coolant into the sump. Might be a good time for me to take the top off and inspect it.
@Banguts
@Banguts 11 күн бұрын
Any idea what kinda of paint they used on the underside of the table on these old saws?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 11 күн бұрын
I don't know. Before answering I did a few searches including asking Chad GPT and didn't come up with anything. Just a lot of maybes, the top of which were lead based paint for old saws and/or enamel based paints.
@RA36912
@RA36912 12 күн бұрын
Keep your head up. it sounds like you know what you're doing.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 11 күн бұрын
Will do, thanks!
@TalRohan
@TalRohan 13 күн бұрын
Great little project ...honestly the wobbly one would bother me lol If you were feeling really creative you could put a ring on the bottom end of handles and have an extra balanced weight to the wheel and no way of banging your head as the vertical rods come round.....maybe. I love my flypress but I only just got it on the stand and a roof on my workshop and I have to move again (I even had my forge set up with chimney and just grrr!!!!...you do not want to hear the bad words everytime I even think about that looking forward to seeing your upcoming videos. And happy new year
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for your comments and Happy New Year back at you! I have a good feeling about this year. Hopefully everything gets settled in your shop and you can move some metal.
@TheFallenAngel13524
@TheFallenAngel13524 14 күн бұрын
My old job had a customer reject 1 box of parts out of 12 boxes 3 times. Personally it looked like they were testing a new product and didn't want to pay for it so they'd swap a box of used parts out and reject them for being "received damaged". To test it we marked the 2nd box of parts before anodizing and magically the day they received those parts they reported them "damaged/bad quality". When they shipped them back for us to "fix" the parts we got were none of the ones they rejected from the 2nd batch but were also obviously installed/used they had from the initial batch. Anyways xometry sided with them on the 3rd time, refunded their money, and sent us back all the "unused" parts we made plus kicked us from xometry telling us to redo the application process in 6 months. Each and every one of the parts we got back had been used by them and we lost a ton of money on that job.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 12 күн бұрын
Dang, that is a horror story! What the actual... Thanks for your comment. Here's my take based on my limited experience. I've pretty much given up on them. After this video and the Christmas rush died down I spent a week "working" the job board all day every day. Nothing came of it. There was one part made out of A2 that I wanted to do. It showed on my job board and less than 5 minutes later it was gone. Someone else accepted it while I was sourcing material. I am ready to fire Xometry. So far they have not held up their end of the bargain. 1. They don't provide me with parts that match my capabilities. 2. Parts that are on my job board seem to also be on other partners job boards. 3. And finally, the parts I want to manufacture might possibly be completed by higher tier partners. What I see on my job board is the dregs. It is what is left that no one wants to do. This is a great for Xometry and hopefully for its customers. It's not working out very well for me however.
@vic017593
@vic017593 3 күн бұрын
@@PowerForgeWorkshop "What I see on my job board is the dregs. It is what is left that no one wants to do." I think that is a clue. It is very hard to be a small workshop and compete with the big ones who take over such websites. Good luck!
@xyzspec82
@xyzspec82 14 күн бұрын
Subscribed! Have a great 2025!😊
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 12 күн бұрын
Thanks and Happy New Year!
@Houcnc
@Houcnc 16 күн бұрын
How ling that take to make
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 15 күн бұрын
The way I ended up doing it took about 45 minutes. That's just machining time. The total time is going to depend on machine and speeds and feeds. Everything had to be deburred so there were quite a few ops. The separate operations is going to increase total time.
@westonpower1
@westonpower1 16 күн бұрын
Bro, totally great video and lathe work. Wondering if you might make one more so all three handles have the same tight thread. Merry Christmas.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 16 күн бұрын
Thanks Weston! I'm not planning on it. It's kind of nostalgic to have the original and I wouldn't want to lose that. I tell you what though. Having three handles is a game changer. One day, hope you can visit and check it out for yourself .
@herobands1
@herobands1 17 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas from across the ocean, Garon. Glad you had a great Christmas, I too had zero wrapping paper to clean up this year. Love your shop videos and your knowledge base, I feel smarter just for watching your channel. Happy 2025 too.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 17 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas brother! 🎄 You should have seen the trash cans on the street today. All overflowing except ours. LOL. Thanks for the comment. Stay safe and eat steak! 🥩
@ismailhenchiri1242
@ismailhenchiri1242 18 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 17 күн бұрын
You're Welcome! Thanks for watching.
@waqasaslam360
@waqasaslam360 18 күн бұрын
Interesting adventure you had with your part and xometry. I hope you find jobs from them. I have nothing to do with xometry as i am in germany but still nice to know the steps you had to go through. Did you use the reamer on the final part or and endmill for those holes? At my workplace we always use endmills for precision holes unless they are too deep.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. I did not use a reamer on the final part. I used a sharpened drill bit and then tested with a gauge pin. I like your practice of using an endmill instead of a reamer. I'll remember that.
@waqasaslam360
@waqasaslam360 17 күн бұрын
@ if you go endmill route then you have to familiarise yourself with tool Radius and Length compensations. You mill the hole a bit smaller first then measure and change the radius offset in the tool table and let the same program run again . This method allow really extreme precision and repeatabilities if you have to mill many parts. Machine changes the tool paths itself according to the radius and you get the desired dimensions. But for this to work you have to activate tool compensation in the CAM software otherwise machine will neglect the changes in radius as tool paths without tool compensation are calculated from the center line and don’t include G41 and G42 for compensations. This method works for all sorts of milling where the tool is cutting from the side like you can make pockets smaller or bigger just changing the radius and don’t have to go the the computer to change things.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 17 күн бұрын
​@@waqasaslam360 Sure, I can do that. I run wear when needed. Thanks
@ИванКовалев-г8к
@ИванКовалев-г8к 23 күн бұрын
Тот случай, когда излишний перфекционизм увеличил время изготовления подставки в 5 раз.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 17 күн бұрын
Yep. You're not wrong.
@jackkara91
@jackkara91 24 күн бұрын
How is the flatness of the plate when it's bolted to the table (assuming the table of the Syil is flat)? Lang baseplates are ground with an intentional bow of about .003" so that when it is bolted down to your table, the edges are pressed down and the whole plate makes intimate contact. Does silver CNC's plate also have this detail?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 21 күн бұрын
That's a good question. I didn't know that about Lange. I'll sweep it with an indicator and at least find out how flat it is installed.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 21 күн бұрын
The flatness was less than .001" in x and y. Using a 10th indicator it was .0002" low in the center in the X running centerline. In Y it was level but .0001" low in front and .0002" low front right corner. When I have to pull the plate in the future, I'll test again when it's relaxed and see if it has flexed. Interesting concept. Makes sense, but I never even considered it.
@peoplepower1272
@peoplepower1272 25 күн бұрын
It should be obvious to everybody that Xometry is a bunch of clowns. Every job you break even or lose money on is a win for them. They just use you to keep going forward while you slowly sink. They seek out low overhead and garage shops to take advantage of them and they make everyone take a test because they can't find skilled professionals to work that cheap!
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 25 күн бұрын
I'm still waiting for a job I'm willing to do. It was fun doing the test part and checking it out, but so far it seems like it was too good to be true.
@darshan9050
@darshan9050 26 күн бұрын
How to choose the die height ?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 26 күн бұрын
I choose my die height based on how I forge and press the coins. For me 1" / 25 mm is the sweet spot. I don't have fancy equipment or die holders. I'm sure that's different for actual professionals. If you research how the US Mint makes its dies, they are very different.
@pvtimberfaller
@pvtimberfaller 27 күн бұрын
I tried making their test part knowing it wasn’t a profitable venture but enough to keep spindles turning while we built up our client list. My part (lathe) was rejected because there are two tiny chamfered and two tiny radiuses that I could not measure and they were .0002 out of spec. Which ones tho? After 6 months of calls and emails I said to hell with their BS, If I can’t talk to a person about the test piece what happens when I get a part(s) rejected??? The only good suggestion I have heard thus far is if you are shipping direct to the customer put a business card in the box and often they will give you repeat jobs at full price.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 25 күн бұрын
What a nightmare
@jamieclarke321
@jamieclarke321 28 күн бұрын
I wish you luck mate and thanks for sharing your experience
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 28 күн бұрын
Much appreciated
@Foomanlol
@Foomanlol Ай бұрын
Xometry is a waste of time as they use shops that are happy to just break even on a job to keep the lights on in slow periods. You can never compete
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Roger that. At this point I consider it paid education and experience. I started my blacksmithing business this year. Machining was meant to support that business. I never considered how awesome and rewarding it is all by itself.
@lopermachine
@lopermachine Ай бұрын
Wanted to jump in on our experience. I think we took our first job in 17 or 18. Xometry is a boot camp of sorts, we hustled hard to get going as a new shop and they were an instant opportunity to get parts through the shop. Their system is pretty dialed and it all makes sense when you get to a certain point. They honestly helped us get through the very early startup phase. We are still partners and dabble in the job board when time allows. The banners are proudly displayed throughout our shop and we owe the platform its due credit.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
That's awesome. Thanks for sharing. I'm determined to take some parts. I think eventually I'll get my turn.
@ericharvey2968
@ericharvey2968 Ай бұрын
Seems like a much simpler part than when I onboarded circa 2019? Mine was a stainless 303 part with a lot more going on.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
I liked that stainless part. I was surprised when I found out it was this new one. I think we could choose the material, but hey recommended 6061 T6.
@gimmehalo1
@gimmehalo1 Ай бұрын
I became an xometry partner about 1.5 years ago. I never took a job from the job board. They were so cheap it wasn’t worth it.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
I heard that response from a bunch of machinists.
@Tjkillergui
@Tjkillergui Ай бұрын
You have more than 60 days. It's a recommendation. I'm currently going through the process and I'm on my first job. They work with you and if you need help then reach out to them.
@MatthewMelson
@MatthewMelson Ай бұрын
I'm a Xometry partner and have been since 2022. Done $65k worth of jobs so far. I've found some winners on there. Most seem to be filler work if I need to find some work. The premium tier is where you want to go, as I work with other Xometry partners and see the work they get, and it is really good paying work. They definitely can have challenging parts on the Job board, but only take what you can do and what works for your shop. With your QMS, don't over complicate it, make it work for your shop, as you grow it will be helpful if your QMS can grow with your shop.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Great comments, thank you.
@henmich
@henmich Ай бұрын
What oil do you use for heat treating?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
It's Parks AAA Quenching Oil
@henmich
@henmich Ай бұрын
You're wind chime pendulum made me laugh... Oh, and in response to "I don't have a CNC lathe... Yes you do.... kzbin.info3VfxsCzzlVI I enjoyed your video... Good luck getting more and more work.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Ah, I definitely have a lathe then.😆 My wife is constantly making little things like that.
@lorigallion2091
@lorigallion2091 Ай бұрын
As his wife, I approve this comment
@Biggie_Johns_Son-v3i
@Biggie_Johns_Son-v3i Ай бұрын
pro tip- they use an algorithm that figures out what jobs you'll take and if you take the cheap ones that's all they'll give you options to bid on. they have their favorite machine shops that get all the good jobs where you can actually make some money. pretty scammy.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Yikes, that does sound scammy.
@HuskyMachining
@HuskyMachining Ай бұрын
dang, they made on boarding with xometry a lot more intense. I started with xometry back in 2018 and it was just make a simple part out of 6061 with tolerances of plus or minus 0.005". I alsi agree that 95% of the jobs on Xometry seem to either need a lathe, 5 axis or EDM, plus some sort of finishing I can't get around me. Xometry was my only customer for the first 4 years so I can't complain, they helped me start my shop.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Wow, four years. That's awesome 👍 it seems like it works for some.
@HuskyMachining
@HuskyMachining Ай бұрын
@@PowerForgeWorkshop Xometry used to pay a lot better for the jobs. Nowadays I have to ask for 2x-3x more than they are offering to make a job profitable.
@____________________ok
@____________________ok Ай бұрын
If i need a cnc part and check xometry they are always way more expensive then China, makes no sense for me..
@rcdieselrc
@rcdieselrc Ай бұрын
@@____________________ok who do you think would be cheaper than China?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
That's the world we live in.
@____________________ok
@____________________ok Ай бұрын
@@rcdieselrc Maybe India or Vietnam Mexico? But sometimes i can have parts machined, blasted and hard anodized for about the same price as if i would have to buy Aluminium in a regular (not for big business) metal store here in the Netherlands.
@____________________ok
@____________________ok Ай бұрын
@@PowerForgeWorkshop Crazy world, do you know what Xometry is making on this ? like what part you get of what the endcustomer pays ?
@gaiustacitus4242
@gaiustacitus4242 17 күн бұрын
@@rcdieselrc If not for the import tariffs on materials, then I can machine parts in quantity for less than I can have them made in China and shipped to these United States. I did it for many years.
@willysnowman
@willysnowman Ай бұрын
bottom race
@Cpoole42
@Cpoole42 Ай бұрын
Just stumbled across your video. Did that same test part spring of this year. I was slightly off on the 32 finish (34 measured if I remember correctly) but still passed the part. It's interesting to me what they can be picky about and what they let go. Done a handful of jobs, but the simple ones go quick. Virtually no margin so far. I am self taught, so I use it as an opportunity to self educate.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I think 34 is a phenomenal RA for a 3 axis mill. I would think anything better would require burnishing or polishing, etc. I agree that it seems like an opportunity to self educate. I've already learned some valuable lessons and I haven't taken a part.
@shaunybonny688
@shaunybonny688 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your service and your videos
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Shaun
@AmericanMakerCNC
@AmericanMakerCNC Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I just started onboarding with Xometry. I'm going to start the test part this weekend. Sharing your experience with the test part and onboarding was very helpful. Now I have a better idea wha to expect with the process. Subscribed!
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Good luck with the part. Even only completing that is a win. Definitely send it in and see how you do.
@TheNobleone-d9f
@TheNobleone-d9f Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Subscribed.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks
@mikesebastian3745
@mikesebastian3745 Ай бұрын
Turn it 90 degrees and profile it.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
That's a good idea. Thanks
@rcdieselrc
@rcdieselrc Ай бұрын
First 15 jobs are pure profit for Xometry. They do expect you to "use up" ie. give away "old" stock on the shelf. They tell you not to lose money, but you'll be waiting a long time to find something profitable. Not entirely their fault, you have an unknown number of shops rushing to get to premium at any cost(loss). I finished 12th job 5+ weeks ago and haven't seen much worth doing since. Or, it's gone before I can check material and tooling to get it done by the deadline. I think better jobs weren't taken by anyone and fed back into the system. It doesn't help that they don't tell you the first day that you can feedback price with your offer. In a tech hour I asked how to get better offers. Become premium. One of the shops said they didn't make money with Xometry in the first 40 jobs. Some people get lucky or are willing to take risk others aren't. They do say jobs are not offered based on the equipment you have. CNC includes any size turn, mill, edm, swiss. I'm sure there is the possibility of making money. My first job (I took at offer price) came back as a repeat at almost three times what they offered the first time. They don't quote anything near the lowball offers they post. You never know what the job actually paid to whoever took it.
@3073Sean
@3073Sean Ай бұрын
I have yet to meet some one who actually is successful in making money with them. If I heard some positive stories I might give it a try. More or less, it seems 50/50 out there when searching around meaning 50 percent say it's OK when your slow, and the other half say cant buy the material for what they are going to pay for the entire job.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
I know of a couple of guys who say they are successful. Both have told me not to take the offered price. They send feedback to the customer with a counter offer. When they do take jobs they a profitable. I think this mainly applies to the Premier Tier partners, obviously, because as a newbie I have yet to see a job I want to take.
@TheDarkrider551
@TheDarkrider551 Ай бұрын
So would you recommend xometry to someone new with limited equipment or tell them to steer clear? Im looking at as I too have alot of down time for my machine but it seems like the onboarding process is pretty competitive when trying to get the first few jobs after the test part, Can you communicate with the customers at all and ask for clarification after taking jobs, you were talking about some parts with square corners or what seem to be design oversites for manufacturing, but there are people submitting parts to be made that aren't certified engineers or haven't tried to make parts before and dont understand some common practices to make parts actually feasible or machinable. Would it be worth it to take some of the more difficult jobs just to make it through the onboarding process, so you can have accesses to a different kind of customer/ more job opportunities based on partnership level?
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
If you have the right "limited" equipment and want to try it, then I would say go for it. The right equipment would be like a CNC Mill or Lathe. I have a 3 Axis CNC Mill. In retrospect, I don't think the onboarding process was overly difficult. Just break it down into its subcomponents and do them individually. Just doing that is still a win in my book. Personally, I learned some valuable lessons and am better for the experience. As a partner with Xometry you are not authorized under any circumstances to ever communicate directly with the customer. For complicated / impossible parts I would just let them go. I doubt any machinist will do them and eventually the customer will get the message. If it's a part that you can do that would result in a small radius where the solid shows a 90, I would take the part and then send a tick to Xometry's Engineer team by flagging it "clarification on Requirements" letting them know you can do it with a radius. It's so competitive (I'm told) that you should take the part, cover your but by sending a ticket, and 9 times out of 10 Xometry authorizes the radius and job done. Otherwise, you can cancel the part without penalty.
@TheDarkrider551
@TheDarkrider551 22 күн бұрын
@@PowerForgeWorkshop Thank you for the feedback, im working through the onboarding process now and waiting on material for the test piece( i have scraps from work i can take home to practice with but nothing large enough to make this part) I too have a 3axis cnc mill and will be attempting this. Surface finishes are one of the things Im not sure about but I have a friend with a profilometer I might be able to use to get my finishes in spec, but I see that the drilled and taped holes will require some more care than Im used to.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop 21 күн бұрын
@@TheDarkrider551 No worries. Good luck with the part! Hope all goes well.
@tdg911
@tdg911 Ай бұрын
I passed the test almost two years ago and yet to have accepted a job from them. Their pay offerings are absolutely insulting. Many times the cost of the material is more expensive than what they are offering for that particular job. In my opinion I see where xometry would be good for a shop that has a lull in work to keep their employees busy keeping the spindles running. Other than that I am not going to go go backwards to work for peanuts or in this case peanut shells.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Good points. The only successful partners I'm aware of never take the asking price. They always send feedback with a counter offer. I think that only works if you're in a Premier Tier though as I have yet to see a part I want to machine.
@tdg911
@tdg911 Ай бұрын
@@PowerForgeWorkshop These people are absolutely nuts imho. For example I remember seeing this one part that at least was two ops requiring a fixture plate AND black hard coat anodize for likt $258 dollars. Part size wasn't large but it wasn't small either. My local anodizer has $100 minimums. So for material including fixture plate, programming, setup, machine time + anodizing + time required for inspection + time for package prep all for the mere price of $258 dollars?! Granted this doesn't include cost for consumed electricty (which isn't much in this case). I have a digital meter on my circuit so I know what the consumption is. I could make more money working at a mcdonalds than most of their jobs. Here's the thing people. STOP taking their jobs and maybe they will have better offerings. Keep taking those jobs and nothing will change is the way I see it. I've moved on from them. I wasted more time checking those job postings.
@SpecFord13
@SpecFord13 29 күн бұрын
Started doing work for them back in 2020. Did near 20 jobs total, with next to none of them actually being profitable. Last job I took was not uploaded correctly by the end customer (they selected standard tolerance and no threads, part had a +-.01mm bore and whitworth thread. Tried to explain to support I might be late since it required a new insert and tolerance that wasn't listed on the board, and explained they were losing money just as much as I was. Their correspondence devolved quickly into insulting me, and I ended up on the phone with their supervisor. That really accomplished nothing, but I found they take about 40% of the profit off the top before posting to the job board, when they don't even have to have human interaction with it. Haven't taken a job from them in over 2 years.
@tdg911
@tdg911 29 күн бұрын
@@SpecFord13 A lot of the prints I look at many of the features cannot be machined on a mill. I think a lot of the people designing these parts have no machining experience at all. I don't know, I just tossed my hands up with these people and went elsewhere. Some people are happy working for peanuts I know I'm not.
@LTV_inc
@LTV_inc 14 күн бұрын
Sounds like people are upset that THEY are making money. Isn’t that the point?
@Brad-zb4nl
@Brad-zb4nl Ай бұрын
As a person who bought parts from xometry, I was not impressed, they only used. Cad file and not the print with dimensions. Some dimensions on class 3 threads are tighter than their standard +- .005. Also on bores or on OD’s of pistons . Nothing would fit together and callouts of 32RMS the actual parts were over 125RMS. Basically useless.
@rcdieselrc
@rcdieselrc Ай бұрын
Wow, that's pretty bad. Threads do not fall under the ±.005" tolerance. I hope you had the parts remade. Was there no recourse?
@JLK89
@JLK89 Ай бұрын
Same. Ordered some super simple aluminium parts with anodizing. Took more than 7 weeks because they ended up using different vendors across Europe for the machining and the anodizing. If they'd told us they couldn't do the anodizing, we could have done it in town quickly and for next to nothing. The next batch didn't even match the first. Tolerances were different and the anodized colour didn't match. We've switched to JLCPCB since. As much as i dislike sending work to China, their prices are good, their turnaround time is insane, and their quality is consistent.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
That's not good. If you can't do it per prints you shouldn't be taking parts.
@rcdieselrc
@rcdieselrc Ай бұрын
@@PowerForgeWorkshop It happens in established shops every day.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
Yikes
@thedroolfool
@thedroolfool Ай бұрын
I went through the xometry onboarding at the end of '23 and my experience was pretty similar. I had the same issue with them sending jobs I didn't have the equipment for. I had only signed up for 3-axis mill and was seeing lathe work, sheet metal cutting, and 5-axis profiles. The few jobs I had the equipment for were way too complex or made of some crazy material and I couldn't have completed them in time. I spent a few days checking the site every hour or two, then tapered off and gave up after a month of not finding any jobs worth taking. The pay for the jobs I saw wasn't nearly good enough to make up for the hours and hours I'd have to spend checking the site.
@PowerForgeWorkshop
@PowerForgeWorkshop Ай бұрын
That describes perfectly what I'm seeing. It seems that it is very competitive and that the few jobs that are available to the new machinists are quickly taken. The jobs we see are what the premium tier partners don't want to do. Great business model for Xometry. I doubt they care who does the work.
@seancollins9745
@seancollins9745 28 күн бұрын
Xoemetery is basically you bidding against China everyday