That's my plan for the rest of the hull. Lots of little pits to tackle though. I can weld at anchor. I do not currently have a spoolgun and Tig welding them would just take too much time. A spoolgun is on the wish list though! We will definitely spend the time to make her good. Merry Christmas! Blaine

Nevermind, just saw your response to a previous comment.

Lol, no worries

Oh, fiberglass boats have their issues as well. I am more comfortable with aluminum repairs than I am with fiberglass repairs though so it's aluminum for me. Blaine

You can definitely find various stages of disrepair. We knew we were in for a huge project when we bought this boat. We have talked about it before and we both think we would have bought this boat if we had to do it again. We may have offered a bit less but we are ok with what we paid. It would cost a lot more just to build a hull like this today. We look at how ridiculously priced boats are today for what you get and at the end of the day with this one we will have exactly what we want.

Sorry you missed it. If you haven't seen it yet I would recommend not waiting anymore though. Move on with your life. Find happiness. Blaine

Madness I tell you, Madness!

Good luck! Maybe in Florida. Not in the PNW.

The parallel cells will balance across themselves naturally.

@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial yes, as long as those cells are staying on the same performance level

Yes indeed. Even off of the same performance they will still balance, just to a lesser capacity as the increase in voltage on the low capacity cell will spill into the other parallel cells once the voltage disparity is great enough. With my charge and discharge rates the current passing between cells would easily exceed the current demands of the system. My BMS would trigger a cell capacity alarm in this case. The only major issue would be if a cell had a dead internal short.

Aluminum actually lasts very well. It is also very easy to repair. We don't mind fiberglass either but we did specifically want aluminum.

Lol, that is the more typical rate for most people doing refits that have day jobs. Glad you are enjoying it! Thanks for watching. Blaine

I had another person recommend them as well. I remember using them in my pc building days. Going to have see what the new lineup look like. Thanks! Blaine

Now that us a good idea! We would never leave the wheelhouse. Thanks for watching. Janis

I ended up going with a Taco 120v unit. The heater has an internal space for relays so I installed one there. Its been working great for a couple of years now. Blaine

That is always a good option! Blaine

You heard correctly but I didn't have my glasses on and read out the wrong number. The actual fuel burn is .46 gallons per hour. The 6.5 is the amps it draws. Lol, I didn't even think about it when I said it. Thanks for catching that. Blaine

@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial Haha. Ok, that makes a little more sense.

⁠@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrialthat sounds much better. I heard you say 6.5 gph and thought that was crazy high.

Lol, my bad. Sorry for the confusion.

I ended up going with a Taco. I believe they are similar to the Grundfos units. Its worked well for a couple of years now. Take care. Blaine

They are expensive for sure. I certainly would do things differently if i were to do it again. I did misquote the fuel burn though. I have been replacing the pumps as they fail with residential 120v pumps. They have been working well. Thanks for watching! Blaine

@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial Keep an eye out for DC pumps. They are somewhat common in off grid systems. Or, replace your motors with DC motors. Not sure what your fluid flow requirements are, but you can generally get away with 25 to 35 goh, maybe even as low as 10 to 20gph

I don't think I will go back to DC again. The AC pump has just been working so well.

My spring clamp pliers live at my automotive shop. The heater was the only thing on the boat that used spring clamps. I'm not going to waste an hour of my life driving to shore then to the shop and back just to grab my spring clamp pliers that are just as unlikely to have fit in the space I had. Primary and secondary loops are all well and good in a house where you have infinite electricity and cheap fuel. This system only circulates water when there is heat demand in a zone. This allows the system to cycle less and have a better efficiency. I had debated installing bypass solenoids at each zone though to completely bypass the radiators but honestly, simplicity is king. Having the second independent loop forward lets me completely shut down water flow to that loop as its not needed for the majority of the time.

The timeframe definitely jumps a bit as we have revamped the videos to try and show a complete project. As this ha been ongoing for 4 years now there is some back and forth. This is very much like you describe your boat. I don't feel it will ever be done. There seems to be a never ending list of things to do! Glad you are enjoying the vids. Blaine

It is certainly a bit of a gamble. Its actually one of the reasons why we went with aluminum. Its easy enough to cut it out and replace. We are contemplating not putting teak back down again. Blaine

@ I've had quitte some boats/ ships but never with a teak deck. Is really nice to look at but gives always after some times (nowadays after a longer time) trouble and costs a lot of money, especially nowadays.

It does make for a pretty big maintenance headache.

@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial I've sandblast (the same way they did by yours ship) a lot outside but also inside under the floors! I didn't used sand, but aluminum electric korund.

We plan to have a lot of the interior work done overseas. Definitely unaffordable to have it done here and interior woodwork is our Achilles heel 🤣. Blaine

@ 😂 I always knew and still know a lot of people. After they sandblast the ship they never let me paying for the paint. For the ship I've now for 22 years I've used about 500 Ltr. two component paint! ☹️🙂🎉🎊

I have had a few suggestions for the Noctua fans. That will likely be the way I will go. Thanks! Blaine

Espar heaters are definitely quite popular on the boats. I actually misquoted the fuel burn on this unit. It is only .46 GPH. I have had a few recommendations on PC fans. Probably going to look into that. Thanks for watching! Blaine

I ended up getting a Taco pump which from what I understand are quite similar to the Grundfos units. Its been going for about 2 years now and works great! Blaine

I may add an engine heating loop in the future but our generator run times are so short that I just don't feel its worth the effort. It would be interesting to know how much it would reduce fuel burn over a long time span though. The heater does have a large electric element built in but its more of an "assist" its output is only a fraction of the diesel burner itself. For the pump I did end up going with a Taco 120v circulation pump for residential heating. It has worked great for a couple of years now. If I did the system again I would likely just get a large dedicated burner and do all of the heat exchanging and pumping externally. It would definitely make for a better system and likely considerably less investment. Blaine

They are a bit of a pain. I am debating building my own setup. Blaine

We have to admit that we are considering swapping this one out. It makes the upper deck so dirty. Thanks for watching. Janis

Glad you are liking the channel! There is indeed a reason we had the older footage. We actually have another channel that started 4 years ago. We did both travel stuff and refit stuff. The problem is that we had a split audience and youtube was having trouble finding the right audience. Because of this we split the channel. This channel is dedicated to refit and the original channel is only travel and exploration. It has definitely helped to split the channel as this channel has already exceeded the subscribers of the old channel and has only been active for 2-3 weeks. I hope that make sense. Take care. Blaine

⁠That makes sense. I found you because I started watching InTooDeep. Looking forward to seeing the rest of your videos.

We hope we can keep you interested!

They are great. We use them tons in the automotive trade. I typically don't mind them unless the manufacturer has put them in locations that are almost impossible to access. That was the case with these. Thanks for watching! Blaine

The system is already in operation and I don't think I will have time to do many alterations for a while. Funny enough though, I actually installed a Taco pump a couple of years ago and it has been working great! Blaine

Thanks for the suggestions! Unfortunately I won't have time to get back to this for a while. Too many bigger projects on the go. Blaine

It does have a 7 gallon buffer tank. The on demand hot water works fairly well but in the wintertime when the water in the tanks is very cold the showers definitely need to be shortened a bit. Blaine

I find that my biggest issues is knowing what products are available in certain sectors. Knowing people in those sectors would certainly help. You can only find so much in a reasonable amount of searching. Blaine

They seem to be getting lots of recommendations. I will definitely be looking into them.

So far barring the pump issues it has worked very well. The hot water on demand is right on the edge in the winter though when the water in the tanks is super cold. Blaine

Very good point. I should have some results on that generator set up as I am cutting the system over today hopefully. Need to get my busbars finished up though as the current cabling was only meant to be temporary and uses 4/0 cable which will not be enough.

@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial What is the length of the run from the generators alternator, to your battery box? I'll calculate out what you need for wire, based on voltage drop. Note that several parallel runs of conductors might be your best option.

The positive run is about 6ft and the negative is about 12ft. I am using some leftover 313mcm cable I had from another job.

That is an option for sure however we don't run the generator for all that long to charge the batteries. It would be a great option off of the main engines to heat while underway though as we would have them running for extended periods.

Lol, The Dickinson was just the first step. For the first few weekends before I got the big heater installed Janis and I would bring a mattress into the main salon and sleep there because it was the only warm spot. Cabin windows are crap. Definitely a huge source of lost heat. We plan to change them all in the not so distant future. Lined curtains are definitely a good option as well. Blaine

I swapped the pump out for a Taco unit. It is 120v but we have that always available and will have redundancies in place in case of inverter failure. It's been running flawlessly for a couple of years now. I will get a second one for the forward loop. I had one on order but the postal strike up here in Canada kinda threw a wrench into the works. I had a couple of automotive auxiliary heater pump in there for a bit but I had failures with those as well.

@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial Yeah, that's why I suggested DC driven OEM automotive coolant pumps. Engineered to last. Vs some of the aftermarket/universal/off brand stuff

@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial The Taco's will do you well

I had though about a pc fan for my draft heater as well. I remembered noctua from my pc building days. Will definitely be looking into them.

@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial definitely worth looking into. You may want to drive them at 2 speeds also. High speed = noisey, but lots of heat. Lower speed for quiet, but lower heat. Most 24V household thermostats of moderate features have more than 1 output heat output, that would work perfectly with this. And even though they mostly run on AC, they shouldn't have an issue running on your 24V nominal DC. Or could be easily modified if there was an issue.

@@OnboardTangaroaSeatrial KZbin censoring my posts again... Frustrating....

My face was actually pretty covered. Ski goggles and full mask plus head covered. The stuff that fell on my face was when I took the gear off. I should have brushed off before doing that. So much dust! Thanks for watching. Janis

Yep, also immensely more expensive. We also have fun working on her. Thanks for watching. Blaine

Yep! Thanks for watching! Blaine

Thanks for the watch and comment!

Thanks!