Why in this podcast do you guys say Ret Paladin is good basically at any stage yet in the second episode you guys say that Ret is bsaically non-viable in any situation? Are you guys just like lulcow memelording?
@blisscon2 күн бұрын
This is great, thank you.
@viniciusPatto2 күн бұрын
Hmm i'm only playing if someone pays my monthly thing, you can pick my class, race, svr, whatever otherwise i don't think i would be playing
@Warfulc2 күн бұрын
RavaNger
@craigchambers692 күн бұрын
warlock is one of the strongest classes once geared
@craigchambers692 күн бұрын
enhancement shaman gang
@epimoni57052 күн бұрын
pop a fap then get sapped.
@hvdiv172 күн бұрын
enhancement shaman is insane in classic tbc pvp im doing elemental for classic fresh pvp and in classic tbc ill switch to enhancement. ill level a rogue alt during the first year.
@chrijani72 күн бұрын
What mic do you use
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
For those of you who were asking <Relapse>, a Classic Fresh raiding guild, are recruiting all roles: discord.gg/StbMUHm4 Been playing with these guys for years
@heftynomad2 күн бұрын
Hey dudes, I'm planning on rolling horde pvp server and you guys seem really cool to raid with. I'd definitely be down to join the guild at launch!
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@stofan3 күн бұрын
Thanks a lot for the upload❤
@TS-qx3in3 күн бұрын
Very interested in playing with yall
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@Huhgundai3993 күн бұрын
This was a good one I’d listen if you guys did this more. However I wish during the Druid segment that the guy who absolutely hates Druid would take a back seat and let the other guys who like Druid more talk about it. He sort of took over the entire segment ranting about how much he personally dislikes them and that’s not helpful at all to people who are excited to play druids
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
Druid love is coming. I 100% noticed that so druid is getting their own video, should be out tomorrow
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
recorded it tonight!
@TS-qx3in3 күн бұрын
Sick pod. Hoping to play with you fellas
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@Jvstm3 күн бұрын
Bros casually ignored how easy gearing Ret is and how strong Paladin single target threat is. I've never had any problems finding a raid group as Ret or Prot. I think the casual 95% of players truly don't give a shit.
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
you are right! we love pally we just a a bit beaten down on the ret front but we have a deep love of the spec in pvp
@Jvstm2 күн бұрын
@nillytv I'm mostly just beaten down by the 5% shitting on casuals, the backbone of the playerbase, which ultimately leads to loss of interest and a drop in playerbase.
@colesc6Күн бұрын
no way you get into raids as ret LOL, sandbag
@Lumbermill-wowКүн бұрын
@@Jvstm I've been playing paladin for the better part of a decade. I've tanked raids, ive DPS'd them, I've healed them. What you describe is not in line with my lived experience I'm not trying to be negative about the class, but trying to set people up with realistic expectations, if people are going to take the time to listen to me ramble, I owe them my honest opinion.
@JvstmКүн бұрын
@colesc6 Most Alliance guilds will take a Ret, if for no other reason than to not throw items away
@Craytonex3 күн бұрын
Good stuff. Im pretty excited for this fresh server. I've been waiting for a progression server. Going to be rolling warlock this time around did mage in 2019 but got burnt out AOE farming for leveling. This time is fr fr I'll hit 60 without being bored to death
@golvellius68553 күн бұрын
Don't do it, there will be hardly any new players, most of the players are the same players who played this same game for decades which are entitled and straight up toxic. A hamster wheel is a hamster wheel, no matter it's is new or old, fresh or used, what color or size You will be doing the same thing and have the same headaches in the end
@simpleslug61963 күн бұрын
Are y’all making a guild on east coast pvp by chance?
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@NgRiBo3 күн бұрын
You think shadow priest are viable with the removal of the debuff limit?
@dexascan902 күн бұрын
Depends what you mean by viable. They'll still do less than half the damage of an equally skilled/geared warrior
@mikeygduv3 күн бұрын
Horde pvp guild on fresh eh? Where do I inquire? <-- fellow boomer
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@Sho72743 күн бұрын
im going feral dps mono-cat wish me luck
@SomethingScotty3 күн бұрын
Let's not forget these servers will be rolling over to TBC servers after a year, so classes that are meme classes in vanilla will be god-tier in TBC, like Paladin and Shaman.
@Lumbermill-wowКүн бұрын
good point
@Apav1x3 күн бұрын
Also I don't think any fresh discord servers are live yet. The fresh announcement was so sudden we still don't even have the server names yet. The main Classic WoW discord sever does have a guild recruitment channel though. Edit: Names were announced, still don't know about Discord servers though.
@Apav1x3 күн бұрын
You're most likely right about the Warrior population predictions this time around, especially with the addition of dual spec and the removal of the debuff limit. This time around I decided to play a Warlock and Rogue and start with the Rogue first since I've never done that before at the launch of a fresh server. But now I'm seriously reconsidering starting with my Warlock first and gearing my Rogue once the current content gets old and competition isn't as fierce. Please let me know if you ever open up recruitment! I really enjoyed listening to you guys and it seems like we have very similar expectations for the pace we want to go at. I also want to clear, but in a laid back environment that's not too sweaty or casual. Also a primarily Alliance player that can't wait to go Horde this time haha.
@heftynomad2 күн бұрын
Going Orc Rogue myself this time! I was Alliance Hunter all the way until Wrath last time haha
@Apav1x2 күн бұрын
@heftynomad Fellow Orc Rogues unite! Going male or female? As an addendum to what I said above, the nice thing about Rogue is that if you care about PvP (which most Rogues do I reckon), you really don't need good gear to do well. I won't be reluctant to rank if I haven't been so lucky with gearing by the time the honor system is added.
@heftynomadКүн бұрын
@@Apav1x Definitely going female! The male orc is a little thick for a rogue imo xD
@Apav1xКүн бұрын
@@heftynomad Male stealth is so hilarious! He's got shoulders for days though. But yeah I think Orc female is only behind Human female when it comes to how armor looks on your character. Human female rogues make swords look like you have Titan's Grip haha.
@W0WShaneEV3 күн бұрын
If your having trouble with guild recruitment or finding a guild, I used blizzards forms, they have a section for new classic guild recruitment. I found a guild to fit me within about 10mins. Sometimes there are Reddit posts too. Both can be found with a quick google search. Hope this helped you guys fill out your roster!
@ce71903 күн бұрын
Good content, thanks!
@s.o.l.o.1.0033 күн бұрын
Love the conversations, lots I didn’t think about 🤓❤️ -Meijer 🤓
@Emeraldice3 күн бұрын
i played warrior in 2019 , let me tell you when 3/4 of your group in Warsong gulch is warrior, its not much fun.
@Nobody-dc8dp4 күн бұрын
Sweaty raiders
@nillytv4 күн бұрын
DEBUF/AURA LIMIT REMOVED FROM CLASSIC FRESH - this means that specs like shadow priest, classes like warlock, and resto Druid will be much higher performing and completely viable in raid! BUT it also means warrior and rogue are gonna rip even harder.
@thelastshallbefirst36533 күн бұрын
So multiple druid hots can be active at once?
@dexascan903 күн бұрын
@@thelastshallbefirst3653 Not on the same target no, they overwrite each other based on who has the highest spell power
@acetrainerembisonu22783 күн бұрын
Does that mean arms warrior stands a chance now lol
@dexascan902 күн бұрын
@@acetrainerembisonu2278 What do you mean? Nothing changes for arms that doesn't also change for fury?
@tytygreenrich94074 күн бұрын
This will be Fifth classic experience, first and 2005, Second 2019, Third, first time around with servers hard-core, Fourth then season of discovery. Now 2024 another classic being the fifth followed by another hard-core being the sixth? Honestly, I don’t see much in doing something six times over that takes a large portion of your life. To me this sounds like keeping you on the wheel so they can go work on retail. I think the only classic that may have some potential would be season of discovery. And I know I’m not the only one that feels like that.
@RequiosWoW4 күн бұрын
It’s all a treadmill and waste of time, whether it’s the same content for 20 years, or new raids every year.
@tytygreenrich94079 сағат бұрын
@@RequiosWoW i think im just looking for a new wow experience that has the old vibes. that is asking a lot though.
@nameless68784 күн бұрын
F blizzard man, im gonna play on turtle wow 🐢🐢🗡️🆒
@chinbosschinboss24844 күн бұрын
Hey can i join your guild? What server are you running?
@Lumbermill-wow3 күн бұрын
I'll see if Nilly will post some details, dont want to invite people to a scene that they may not want to be a part of. Probably a quick blurb about expectations and the kind of community we want to build.
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@mikki75224 күн бұрын
2 hours?? Dis gon be good!
@dtt7194 күн бұрын
Shadow guard will proc Blackout stuns making it useful in PvP. I believe undead is still bis for wotf, but trolls are still pretty good. Troll is definitely best in pve due to berserking Devouring plague is good, but it does have downsides. It’s very mana expensive and as a disease it can be easily cleansed. It’s a cool ability but not enough to make undead the clear PvP choice. Undead beats out troll due to their racial ability
@Lumbermill-wow3 күн бұрын
Appreciate it man!
@benkelly71823 күн бұрын
Undead also have the best dance, laugh, and lovely starting zones.
@TonyJ17764 күн бұрын
Have you guys put up a Discord for guild yet?
@kaponoe26694 күн бұрын
I’d like to play with you guys. Love the Podcast. Send some details please
@Lumbermill-wow3 күн бұрын
I'll see if Nilly will post some details.
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@Nin3fingers4 күн бұрын
cool stuff dudes, looking forward to the gang getting back together - schipp/tekker
@Lumbermill-wow3 күн бұрын
Long time no see!
@Nin3fingers3 күн бұрын
@@Lumbermill-wow indeed indeed! my life shit is more balanced out now so i'm hoping you guys will take me back after i abandoned you on the dead server
@Lumbermill-wow3 күн бұрын
@@Nin3fingers I think it will be alright.
@CctvSecurityCamera-w3j4 күн бұрын
Yuck paladin lost my respect...only noobs choose that lame cheese class
@MusclesMcMassive104 күн бұрын
What do you play?
@TonyJ17764 күн бұрын
@@MusclesMcMassive10 Horde lol, they hate bubble hearth.
@Lumbermill-wow3 күн бұрын
@@TonyJ1776 This is the best comment ive read.
@vdmin4 күн бұрын
not too hard, not too shitter rouge looking for info on guild, enjoyin the podcast boys
@nillytv2 күн бұрын
discord.gg/StbMUHm4
@TonyJ17764 күн бұрын
The leggings recipe was an AQ drop IIRC. (Warrior pants). On to Holy Paladin, don't take the robe of power (MC). I made that mistake in 2019/2020, really regretted deleting my Baron robe shortly after. Let the mages have it.
@altibzz4 күн бұрын
you're 100% right i did the same thing and ended up going back to baron robe. titanic leggings is aq40 recipe.
@Iron.Tarkus4 күн бұрын
Oh man glad to see this as a warrior dps main I'm a bit concerned about the sped up timeline. Also would love some fresh server discord links! I'm avoiding going full sweat this round as I did it in 2019 so I'm hoping I can still pump enough to have fun and be happy with some purple parses. All things considered I wish I found any other class even half as fun as warrior in group pve
@colesc6Күн бұрын
you can casually rank this time around, even easier if you're on horde- that'll be your easy entry as a warrior into gold parses! (up until AQ) kek
@stormdavis89174 күн бұрын
Yall were asking for fresh servers discords but they aren’t out yet! For guild recruitment I’d suggest using the wow classic forum classic fresh guild recruitment channel! Hope that helps!
@Soleryth4 күн бұрын
You nailed it. All of it. Classic may have a stiff gameplay for some classes, but it's still the most immersive MMO experience to me. Everything. Matters. Nothing is useless in this version of the game.
@VicM884 күн бұрын
For me, all this crap is the main turnoff to original WoW. If it's all the same stuff, there's no reason to return. Boring stuff.
@hcliff21004 күн бұрын
The new honour system has made a sure way of getting geared for naxx