The bikepocolypse is really causing issues for the athletes, hopefully things get more stable soon!

I love e-bikes, and I think that enduro riders are not selling e-bikes either that's their glorified bs, because they know UCI is slowly intentionally killing the sport. Current selling point is sad, who ever has a huge social/viewership reach will sell the most. But if we are questioning MTB genre's then we should question XC world. That is not even MTB, roadies riding on the blue trail it's just lame and has no meaning what so ever. If it was for me, I'd remove XC from MTB, and glorify enduro, invest everything to make this sport interesting in and out of stages, because that sport genre has so much more to offer than XC. I just can't understand how are questioning E-bike industry while we have XC on the scene. Literally every one wants 1 out of 2 things as Jesse said, long distance no technical riding or as light as possible and have some assist like SL with 160/160+ to do local trails repetitively.

A large portion of my income goes to the ebike industry. eMTB's are my passion. I care about eMTB racing.

Love Canyon. When one of the proprietary parts break you will be left without a bike indefinitely since Canyon doesn't carry spares of their own proprietary parts. It's nice to have $4k worth of paperweight with no support or solutions from Canyon.

That’s why I can’t understand the marketing of bike companies that stop making downhill bikes and stop sponsoring downhill teams. It is their demise. What are they thinking?

Mass start e-bike racing on super gnarly XC tracks with capped battery sizes and no governors is what I would watch.

Interesting to hear from Jesse who comes from somewhere a few years behind here on EEB take up. The mixed eeb and Amish race would be a great addition.

I’ve asked many e bikers who bought E bikes in the last couple years “if all E bikes didn’t exit and disappeared would you quit riding???” They alI said yes. I guess this says a lot about what kind of mountain biker this newer E bike gen is.

I think you should get Ryan Gilchrist's opinion on the matter!

Imagine not being able to have fun with your dad unless he’s on a moped

Dirt bikes are super fun too. They’re just not MTB, they’re motorized bikes. Like e-bikes

I am not anti e-bike. My dad has one. I have ridden it a few times. BUT I could not care any less about any and all e-bike content

Big e-bike rides with 2 batteries are my favorite days on the bike. Completely eliminates range anxiety and allows me to ride until my legs quit instead of my battery

You make it sound like e bikes stop working after it hits the power assist limit. Yiu can still pedal it just not used the motor.

I want a DH inspired EMTB, might as well. That torque can carry that weight and climb a 40* incline uphill

Stigma. If mountain biking didn't exist until this year, and there was nothing available but eBikes to purchase, then that would be all anyone could have. Right? So it's this thought that it's not the same level of fitness, not as demanding, and something that is for older, physically compromised, or just plain lazy people. No one would go ride a 4 stroke motorcross bike hard for an hour, and not be completely wiped out and drained, yet it doesn't carry the same stigma. I just think it's interesting that there's some sort of mythical badge of honor for riding an "analog" bike now, when if someone wanted to really prove their fitness, just ride an eBike without the motor. There are your bragging rights, if it's really about who is expending the most effort. I'm 55 and don't have an eBike, and ride a Ripmo. But I see the day coming where the misery and obligation outweigh the fun of riding. What I HATE is how fast eBikes go through drivetrains, and how much of a hassle it is when something goes wrong with them. The bike company points the finger at the motor company, and the motor company points the finger back. After talking to shop owners, the only one that has their game together is Shimano, and if you have any technical issue that has to do with the sensor or something within the onboard ECU, they just send a replacement, and have the shop send the motor back in the box it arrived in. THAT STILL means paying for the labor to get the replacement installed, and eBikes are FAR more costly to own that standard bikes, and I don't think most people would refute that. Here in Bentonville, Class 1 eBikes were embraced from day 1. They are PROMINENT with the locals. The comment is...."They're fun for riding our style of trails." Yeah, well, where are they not fun?

Most ebike buyers dont know or care about the racing. But I'm pretty sure Lapierre have sold a bunch of GLPs and Canyon some strive:on's thanks to all the wins they have racked up.

It’s funny that he said nobody has a yeti e-Bike. I have the yeti 160 E, but I have literally never seen one on the trail other than mine.

E racing is pure 🤡 Nothing wrong with E in general.

E bikes are perfect for the typical person who wants to maximize “fun” with as little suffering as possible. It’s emblematic of modern western society. Make things easier, and charge people for it.

DJI is already sold & dont even has entered the market

Jesse is the man! Easy guy to root for!!

What I noticed when I had the turbo levo at the bike park is that most people won't criticize ebikes to your face. Now that I sold it I get the raw version, especially from the younger generation I was thinking my son was an ahole for bashing emtbs but nah. Most kids think they're not cool, geeky things for old farts... 😅 *All the marketing and cool influencers riding them might change this but it's far from achieved. Racing might probably be the only way, a cool format would be a DH that you have to climb?! Idk

Another great episode, great to listen to feels like just mates sharing stories rather than an interview

Great listen. Always tidbits to take in from Jesse.

E-bikes sell themselves, they then trap thousands of customers given their shitty reliability and serviceability. It’s a shame because they’re great fun and have their place for lots of riders. I also think Jesse is spot on with what he says, plus he’s a damn weapon on a bike and I want to see him ride for years to come!

Motor systems get street ced from racing. Bosch has/had the rep for power now the talk is shimano has gained parity and that was established by race/power stage wins. That helps bike companies. Power stage is entertaining as well. Vid can capture most , if not all, of the stage

Jesse is a champ

jesse is always a great listen… love the video-format and interaction :)

Great podcast. Really enjoyed this one.. Good insight into the sport of Enduro and where he thinks it will go. Hopefully it does go longer bigger days...

Would loved if he went into his transition away from running inserts. Always seemed to run before joining canyon team.

I really want to see Jesse at a DH race. When you see how he corners live you're just left with questions.... Tyres ? Pressures ? Suspension set up ? Just how ?

Great to finish the les gets post race show only to see another new pod dropped, keep up the great work downtime 🤘😎

2 nice calm blokes talking about bikes. Great questions and answers. I found that a really interesting and insightful interview. Thanks

Great episode, thank you - led me to watch the Double Everest film, loved it, so well made. Given the location was not overly surprised to see Annie, Lou and Baxter on there, among others, such a tight community, so good. Chamoisless FTW! Bikes are the best.

5 months after this has posted. Only 11 comments? Edit: Regardless, thanks for explaining this more. We'll get it one day.

there should be an option to buy XL and XXL with MX wheels

Also…..if you had a small in the last frame you got 29’s, if you went for a similar size frame you’ll get 27.5’s

It would be so dope if you could get the Dialed crew on. They are MIA this season. It would be great to hear from the 2guys who film it and some behind the scenes QnA

Hey I’m trying to do what you guys talked about and shop around at smaller brands I’d love a list of some smaller brands I can look into bc I’d much rather help out a small brand than feed a larger one

Are there any links to Ben’s videos ? That’s

Yup, best notification there is, new downtime episode 🤘😎😎😎

Jordi needs a wizard staff and hat. Suspension is a bit of black magic to figure out.

Looks like Jordi has explained these things a million times.

I wish I had the newer geo on my BFE but I am glad I got the old head badge.

I've built two full sus frames for myself using 1 3/4" .049" down tubes from Aircraft Spruce. I've never had a crack and they're solid feeling like an alloy frame. I don't get why people keep using tiny, flexy steel.

It's been nine damn hours and not a single comment? What's wrong with you people?

Can’t wait for the cotic eeb 🔥🔥🔥

Laughable that anyone thinks DH / Enduro racing is in a good place right now, far too many folk seeing round signs and lining their own pockets as much as possible.

Stupid question, why are the frames not built here? My brother and his friend used to build custom frames in their garages and they had big name riders ordering them.