David Bruce Composer

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@RobberZhi 8 минут бұрын

Thanks!

@khreed 11 минут бұрын

Did you confirm the translated Tchaikovsky quote with something like Google translate, rather than relying entirely on chatGPT to translate back to English? LLMs can hallucinate/make stuff up, you should never trust their output to be factually correct without a second source.

@kleko 43 минут бұрын

Interesting topic, but using generative AI to translate instead of a translation tool is just sloppy. We can't verify that the LLm has not added or altered phrases so using the output makes the end point moot. Generating images for a bad joke is also a bad look. Too bad, because the rest of the video is really well done.

@BsktImp Сағат бұрын

I kid you not, David, honestly. The vid randomly buffered at 7:36! lol <resist apophenia...>

@Aleph_Null_Audio Сағат бұрын

As a percussionist, I've sat close to many a harpist, so I had heard about the "no pinky" and "finger torture" rules, but the other rules are new to me! "Avoid dense voicings in lower registers" seems to be good advice in general . P. S. "Pedal Panic" is also something that can afflict timpanists: I've seen parts that, to play as written, would require six or more drums and the ability to do the splits.

@mentalitydesignvideo Сағат бұрын

a mysoharpist, not a harpogynist!

@jayducharme Сағат бұрын

Another great video! For the heck of it, I went back and looked at an early piece I wrote that extensively integrated a harp and to my surprise I ticked all the boxes. I think I was being really conservative with my writing for it. But at least it's theoretically playable.

@adaddinsane Сағат бұрын

I really respect you David, but if you continue to use LLMs, I'll have to stop subscribing. Of course that won't hurt you but you should know better. Even ignoring the ethical consideration of ripping off creatives ("oh but we have to otherwise we couldn't do it") LLMs are so destructive to the environment this argument alone is sufficient for any decent person to go: Yeah, no. Just stop using them. (And the image generators are even worse.)

@sashakindel3600 2 сағат бұрын

I wish cross-strung harps were still common alongside double action pedal ones. Use the pedal harps for enharmonic effects and access to a wider variety of glissandos, and the cross-strung harps for high chromaticism.

@alessandropalazzani 2 сағат бұрын

Non dimentichiamo che il suono delicato dell'arpa viene facilmente coperto in situazioni orchestrali dense e dal volume importante. Quindi evitiamo di scrivere passaggi difficili in punti in cui non verranno mai uditi.

@anthonyscolaro1044 2 сағат бұрын

While the dual-action pedal harp was not "new" in the 1890s, its melodic and technical capabilities had only begun to be explored and developed at the time Tchaikovsky was writing his ballets. It's not surprising that he had a dim view of the harp's potential. Harpist-composers like Alphonse Hasselmans and his students such as Henriette Renie, Marcel Tournier, Carlos Salzedo, Marcel Grandjany, and Lily Laskine, as well as others, went so much further with the harp than anyone during Tchaikovsky's time could have imagined!

@andjamin 2 сағат бұрын

A harpogynist would be a seizer of women. A hater of harps would be a misolyrist or misocitharist.

@Physwe 2 сағат бұрын

But I like the original phrases better :c

@garyhoffman1 2 сағат бұрын

This reminds me of Mussorgsky’s “Night on Bald Mountain” that was re-arranged by Rimsky-Korsakov. I was familiar with the ubiquitous and famous R-K version when my music history teacher played a recording of Mussorgsky’s original that reappeared in the ‘60’s. MUCH darker.

@CloneHat 3 сағат бұрын

All this AI crap. Get me out of here!

@Jantsenpr777 3 сағат бұрын

When I write my symphonies, I will feature not one but a whole saxophone section. In fact, I plan to include them head-on on all my orchestral pieces as part of the woodwind section. This "bigotry" towards the saxophone must stop!

@jejunemoon 3 сағат бұрын

David, this was enormously helpful and entertaining! Thanks so much for your cogent and thorough exploration of harp technique and writing. Very useful in my own writing!

@ginemginem 3 сағат бұрын

15:16 wouldn't a "harpogynist" be a person that harps on women?

@DBruce 2 сағат бұрын

Yeah sorry I am dumb

@wiesorix 3 сағат бұрын

Always interesting to hear about the imperfections in the music of famous composers. Way too often the old composers are pictured as gods who just wrote perfect music, so this video is very refreshing!

@traviswichtendahl5648 3 сағат бұрын

Mistakes with harp writing? *Saint-Saens would never!* But on a serious note, as someone who studied violin as a kid, I always found Tchaikovsky's writing for _that_ instrument to be natural to play, even when "difficult." Obviously, composers had much better resources for writing for violin than harp. But even compared to his contemporaries, Tchaikovsky's violin writing feels nice to play.

@noneyabid 3 сағат бұрын

As a harpist, I feel SEEN!! One of the weirdest things about that cadenza is how out of character it is with the rest of the ballet (which, for the most part, lies very well under the fingers). To me, it's a big WTF!?! moment. It's like he momentarily forgot how to write for the harp. Dear composers, please don't be intimidated by the harp. Just reach out to a harpist and we will gladly offer assistance. If you don't know any, there are several Facebook groups you can join to post questions and a harem of harpists will leap in to assist...one of these groups is even moderated by the fabulous Danielle Kuntz (yes, the same one you just saw in the video). Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to go sit in the corner and await that David Bruce harp concerto. {hint, hint}

@Tantacrul 3 сағат бұрын

Very nice video my man. Very entertaining and well paced!

@RileyMcGreevy 4 сағат бұрын

After watching this I looked back at an unperformed orchestral piece I wrote over the summer that included a harp part. I made a few mistakes. While never having directly repeated notes, I for a lot of it had a pattern where they go back and forth between a note and then a new note. This is often in 16th notes and at some points it gets to be pretty fast tempos. I also have prolonged sections of writing a lot of notes in the low range, while using the previously mentioned pattern. I also have a few runs where they go one direct then and then go in the other direction leading to the same sort of problem without directly repeating the note. This would probably work better if I used the zigzagging glissando. I also have some big chords written all in one staff, but probably wound be ok if I split them up between the staves, to indicate that the hands should switch. Thanks for the informative video. Now I'll be able to write harp parts that the player will like, If I ever get them preformed.

@strangeperson8015 Сағат бұрын

hello, I am currently in my second year of the conservatory with harp as my main instrument, and I can tell you that the problem concerning repeated notes is only really a problem if it's just one string you're playing with. Bisbigliando's (which are at least 2 notes played very fast after one another on repeat, usually in 32nd or even 64th note values) are much, much, much easier. If you can use two strings it's basically like a trill, really, in this way you can also do a single repeated notes if you take enharmonics into account (so then only a D-natural, G-natural and A-natural would be 'unplayable' depending on context) :) Considering the arpeggio's, it's actually quite common to play chords up and down repeatedly. Many pieces composed by harpists use it, and it's not very difficult. Again, the problem with repeating notes is only if we can't preplace it, and preplacing we try to place as many notes as possible at a time. It's actually more difficult to play a chord in both hands quickly 2 notes at a time, than 1 note at a time in a single, fluid movement (like at the start of the Tchaikovsky harp cadenza's). So basically, if you want a run with more than 4 fingers, only one note at a time is what realistically is going to be played. Another thing, if you write for harp, please, please, please don't write in the pedals, it's a nuisance to have to scratch them out if they aren't placed comfortably for the harpist. If you really would like to learn how to write for harp, I would suggest listening to music composed by harpists themselves. Albert Zabel (whom David mentioned in the video), John Thomas, François-Joseph Naderman (who wrote for single-action pedal harp), Marcel Tournier, Alphonse Hasselmans, and many more. There are also people like Sylvain Blassel, who like playing arrangements of piano works with some incredible pedalling. I think you can learn the most from how they handle the instrument.

@HunterTheCat1812 4 сағат бұрын

Did you really have to use ChatGPT? Really?

@kjdude8765 4 сағат бұрын

To translate a passage of Russian? What other option would you suggest?

@jonadabtheunsightly 4 сағат бұрын

Translation is actually one of the most suitable tasks you can assign to an LLM. They're actively worse at most of the things people ask them to do.

@HunterTheCat1812 2 сағат бұрын

@@kjdude8765 Do better at researching

@adaddinsane 2 сағат бұрын

I came here to say that - I bet the Harpocalypse was an LLM as well. These things are incredibly destructive to the environment, they are bad.

@cometsmith 4 сағат бұрын

The quality on this video was so good! I appreciate the lack of AI Visuals/art :)

@sveinungnygaard1505 4 сағат бұрын

Great video!

@felicity1877 4 сағат бұрын

Well, this was interesting, but not a surprise actually. There are so many changes with ballet scores . Just like the pas d'action (13.V) in Swan Lake, the original ending of the piece is rarely heard in stage productions, but traditionally cut. Ballet music is such a complicated thing, and same music sometimes used for different situations. But interesting to learn this detail!

@N-JKoordt 4 сағат бұрын

Harpocalypse - oh the horror!! 😧

@CalendulaF 5 сағат бұрын

Harpogynist 😂

@jonadabtheunsightly 4 сағат бұрын

Obviously, that's someone who believes the harp is a women's instrument.

@OphatTaerattanachai 5 сағат бұрын

"The Crescent Moon is a Dangerous Lunatic" from The North Wind was a Woman is one of my favorites from your album, North Wind was a Woman. It has a very good example of how to use the singer's voice in an unusual way as well. IV. from The Consolation of Rain in the same album is also awesome.

@MarkWladika 5 сағат бұрын

Thanks David, this was highly informative and entertaining. Don't hesitate talking about your own music, in fact we want more David David Bruuce!

@laurajhball 5 сағат бұрын

Wonderful to see Danielle Kuntz represented in this video. She is a true gift to composers aspiring to write for that magnificent instrument. Great video, David!

@arnemartt 5 сағат бұрын

“I used chatgpt to-” aaaand video over. It was going so well up to this point.

@emilrostad9720 5 сағат бұрын

Christmas came early, another David Bruce video just dropped!

@hoangkimviet8545 5 сағат бұрын

Tchaikovsky is the GOAT ballet composer.

@kennethvenezia4400 23 сағат бұрын

Thank you

@DegtyarovDaniil Күн бұрын

piano cadenza in Ravel's concerto for left hand sounds like bell

@CaseyFulton-OrchestralAudio Күн бұрын

Would love to be a professional arranger. There's a lot to learn from doing it.

@adude9882 Күн бұрын

Very good lesson. Thing is though, thinking about the best popular music from the golden age how do we explain how the musician acheied it? It doesn't seem to be about considering transformatioms of small elements like patterning. It seems to be about realisung in sound form a whole clear way of feeling about sometjing that has an emotional imortance. A new way if feeling which liberates us. We are not diverted by somebody's creative inventiveness like they are moving chess pieces around. It is more like we are listening to a prophet.

@kase-re1jf Күн бұрын

I recommend listening to Luciferion - 'New World To See' or 'Destroying By Will' A great example of how to compose metal in general. Guitars, drums, keyboards, solos that don't sound like random crap.

@oldedwardian1778 2 күн бұрын

How can you ignore the SINGLE GREATEST OPENING OF ANY SYMPHONY EVER COMPOSED. VAUGHAN WILLIAMS SYMPHONY #1 A Sea Symphony. There is NO WORK EVER WRITTEN THAT CAN COMPARE TO THE OPENING OF THAT IMMORTAL WORK. VW hardly ever left anyone in any doubt as to what he was trying to convey, His First Symphony MAKES THAT VERY CLEAR. I am a true LOVER of Classical music, these deep musical analyses of the structure of the music MEANS NOTHING TO ME. WHAT MATTERS IS WHAT THE MUSIC SOUNDS LIKE. This guy does NOT UNDERSTAND THAT.

@sleepcity 3 күн бұрын

Such a useful and well-explained lesson. Thanks!

@peterhunt9438 3 күн бұрын

Great video again. I always watch right to the end to hear the "davy,davy,bruce" song. So kewl !!

@ContemporaryArts2024 3 күн бұрын

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@narrowgatefilms3106 3 күн бұрын

Fascinating. Thanks so much for the insight. When the right mix of musicians blend with a prophetic voice. Thinking Infidels, Blackstar. 5 Leaves Left. The producer brings it all together to make the songs one whole piece. That’s what we want. An album not a song. Loving the new Cure Album Songs from a Lost World. Was never really into them but now I get it! Please recommend other ‘Albums’ for me.

@toysngod4ihs2005 4 күн бұрын

Is this like the rite of starlight?

@danielchambers7195 4 күн бұрын

Mozart.

@rafman104 5 күн бұрын

Mahler 🙏

@sunnykhurana657 5 күн бұрын

I like that you mentioned Brahms's more conservative style even though he didn't have much to do with how german music was continually driving forward. I see shostakovich the same way. Despite his very individual style, his music is filled with old german contrapuntal technques.

@TheDutchCreeperTDC 5 күн бұрын

6:00 is it weird that I don't hear the F at all? The second most intense note to me is Eb

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