Hi Warren, great video. I’m curious which Routledge article this is at 2:00. I would love to read it

Early Christians who knew Jesus teachings understood Christs sacrifice and understood that we can find forgiveness. This is not good enough for Reformed Christians who force the complexities of their ideas on the scriptures because they cannot receive them as children. The Ante-Nicene Church Fathers believed in the RANSOM MODEL of the Atonement not in the MODERN MODEL of PSA. If it were then our sin debts, once removed could never be reinstated. In scripture, through Jesus Parables, our original sins after being forgiven can be REINSTATED and newer sins can be incurred.

I appreciate Mike Winger; however, he has deviated from the truth in some major points. One was when he taught that a if a clinically depressed Christian committed suicide he could still be forgiven and enter the Kingdom even after they had done it. Having had Bipolar Disorder for some 18 years I wanted to die more times than I can. What kept me from it was not my love for God but my fear of Him. As Jesus said: 28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, FEAR the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell (Matthew 10:28) When Ignatius of Antioch, (35 - 108 AD) on the way to be martyred he embraced his chains calling them "jewels" Thus he turned suffering into hope and joy. In fact, here is what he wrote on the on the way to martyrdom: " "The last times have come upon us. Let us therefore be of a reverent spirit, and fear the long-suffering of God, that it tend not to our condemnation. For let us either stand in awe of the WRATH to come, or show regard for the GRACE which is at present displayed - one of two things. Only [in one way or another] let us be found in Christ Jesus unto the true life. Apart from Him, let nothing attract you, for whom I bear about these bonds, these spiritual JEWELS, by which may I arise through your prayers, of which I entreat I may always be a partaker, that I may be found in the lot of the Christians of Ephesus, who have always been of the same mind with the apostles through the POWER of Jesus Christ. (The Epistle of Ignatius to the Ephesians: Chapter 11. An exhortation to fear God, etc)

What is the point of repentance in Calvinism? You're either elect or you aren't.

Knife beautifully twisted.

4:15 I'm still waiting for you to add the lyrics to The Fireman. Also, volume on the lyrics up, the background should stay in the background.

This is appalling

Poor Matt! His total inability does not allow him to understand any other view unless it is his.

I understand that you are responding to Gavin personally here so I can’t level to much criticism for not engaging with other writers. But it is common in these videos and others on this channel as well as people like Leighton flowers that were once “calvinists” and have for the most part read or watched or heard other “calvinists” like sproul, white, piper, Lawson, and many other contemporaries who have are alive or were writing in 1930s-2000s and that’s as far as they will go. And that is not a proper representation or articulation of Calvinism which I hate the term because it’s so nebulous. Rarely do I see anyone engaging with the magisterial reformers and reformed scholastics on these issues and topics which if you had you’d get very different answers from the ones you hear from white and McArthur and the like and believe it or not Calvin isn’t the end all be all for Calvinism or reformed theology it’s a much broader tradition, so often I see people quote mining Calvin as if he represents every strand of reformed theology, he does not. I think this is just poisoning the well, now I understand in Calvinists circles, jmac, and white, sproul, piper are very popular so you kind of have to respond to them but for serious critiques of Calvinism you have to be versed in the real broader reformed tradition which leighton and others who critique it are not (simply from the videos I’ve seen the post it never comes up) and these popular pastors sadly do not represent it and even if you still disagree with the magisterial reformers that’s fine but it’s important to understand the stark contrast between reformed orthodox developments in 1540s-1700s vs what we see today from popular preachers. Trust me they are not even close to the same thing.

I was 18, when I saw the innate contradictions of Calvinism. I remember one of the tenants of a building I was cleaning asking me, "Can PUNY man THWART the will of the Almighty God?" Without thinking, I answered, "I don't know. Don't you remember what Jesus said: "Jerusalem, Jerusalem....how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and YE WOULD NOT!" (Matthew 23:37) It sounds like they "thwarted the will of God."

So, Calvinists blame God for their sins. It's kinda like "the devil made me do it", except for them it's God. Oh no.

Do you have any videos where you clearly lay out a positive and exegetical case for what y'all believe about the meaning and purpose of the crucifixion?

Just bought a new Septuagint gave my other one away and realized i haven't replaced it, this series has made me finally fix that😅

Just watched finally. Thank you for this. I have been really confused on this topic, but I finally am starting to see the points of contention between the views. It was hard to understand because I was taught PSA so I didn't see how to interpret the verses any different than the way I was trained to. I don't know where I stand, but at the moment I stand at no model and instead just on the Bible. PSA is seeming less and less likely though the more I hear the contentions.

If Calvinism, the way I understand it, was in the Bible I would reject the Bible and go to a different religion There’s plenty of better religions in the world

1:45:00 Do Augustinian churches have Youth Ministry for embryos?

I love love love Dr Walter Martin

Your statement at 2;35 about rc saying he knew he was saved because of special knowledge.......Twitchy made almost the exact claim to me recently. that is why I Have been concerned about him getting hooked up with Rc. not a good thing ....

Blasphemers - every one of them. Ignore Jesus - who is the VERY Son of God - EVERY chance you get! There is nothing in Reformed theology for a born-again Christian.

This guy doesn't help his case by continuously calling Mike, " the Reverend Mr Mike Winger" when Mike Winger never calls himself Reverend. It's also weird how he uses Calvinist teachers comments as some kind of gotcha. Apparently he thinks Winger is a Calvinist? Lol. I'm not making a judgement in the series yet, but this guy is pretty annoying 🤷‍♂️

Original Sin was an invention of Augustine based on a MISTRANSLATION of Romans 5:12 because Augustine had neglected to learn Greek but, instead, relied upon CORRUPTED Latin texts. The Old Latin version says IN WHOM (in Adam) all sinned which leads to the misperception that every descendant of Adam is under the wrath of God. In reality the phrase in whom (en ho) means BECAUSE OF WHOM. Because of whom (because of Adam) all sin.

Aw geez 2:29:08 i forgot about that 😂

Going through these quotes helps me to see just how important Leviticus is. Michael Heiser's Leviticus series is a great help to understanding the point of sacrifices as well as understanding the issue of clean vs unclean and intentional vs unintentional sins. Adam's sin was intentional rebellion. Eve's sin was due to deception. When the early church father's are talking about sinning after the manner, kind or likeness of Adam, they're referring to intentional sin. Or "high handed" sin. In Leviticus there was NO SACRIFICE for Intentional/High Handed sin. The only option for intentional sin was to be kicked out of the camp and/or to be killed. There was no sacrifice to forgive intentional sin. The early church fathers are picking up on this point, that to sin, or to be a sinner is an intentional choice or rebellion.

Thank you Warren. I see wisdom in your videos. But one question: why Orthodox Church? They don't preach, they pray to saints, to Mary, they don't encourage people to read Bible at home, they are a lot about traditions..

False , slanderous presentation!

The great evangelists George Whitefield, Charles Spurgeon, James Kennedy...were Calvinist. I asked AI ChatGPT: "According to the Bible, how can a sinner living in hatred of Jesus Christ use her/his "free will" to choose Christ for salvation?" Obviously, voting for Calvinism (Biblical Sovereign Grace Salvation theology, conservative Biblical Reformed Protestantism): ChatGPT said: "ChatGPT This is a profound theological question that touches on the nature of free will, human depravity, and God's grace. According to Scripture, a sinner living in hatred of Jesus Christ cannot, by their own unaided "free will," choose Christ for salvation. Let’s unpack this in light of biblical teaching: 1. Human Nature in Sin The Bible teaches that humanity, apart from Christ, is in spiritual bondage to sin. Romans 3:10-12: "None is righteous, no, not one; no one understands; no one seeks for God. All have turned aside; together they have become worthless; no one does good, not even one." Ephesians 2:1-3: Sinners are described as "dead in trespasses and sins," walking according to the course of the world and under the influence of the devil. A person in this state does not naturally desire God or His ways; their will is enslaved to sin (John 8:34). 2. Hatred Toward Christ John 15:18-25: Jesus states that the world hated Him before it hated His followers. This hatred stems from sin and rebellion against God. Romans 8:7: "For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot." A person who hates Christ is spiritually blind and unable to recognize their need for a Savior (2 Corinthians 4:4). 3. God's Sovereign Grace While human beings cannot, by their own free will, choose Christ, the Bible teaches that God works through His sovereign grace to draw sinners to Himself. John 6:44: "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him." Ephesians 2:4-5: "But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ-by grace you have been saved." 4. The Role of the Holy Spirit The Holy Spirit convicts sinners of their sin and opens their hearts to the truth of the Gospel. John 16:8-11: The Spirit convicts the world concerning sin, righteousness, and judgment. Acts 16:14: The Lord opened Lydia's heart to pay attention to what was said by Paul. 5. Faith as a Gift The ability to believe in Christ is itself a gift from God. Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast." Philippians 1:29:" For it has been granted to you that for the sake of Christ you should not only believe in him but also suffer for his sake." 6. God Changes the Heart Through regeneration (being born again), God transforms the sinner's heart, enabling them to respond to Him in faith. Ezekiel 36:26-27: "And I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh." John 3:3-8: Jesus emphasizes the necessity of being born of the Spirit to see and enter the kingdom of God. Conclusion A sinner living in hatred of Jesus cannot choose Christ by their natural "free will" because their will is bound by sin. However, God, in His grace, works to draw sinners to Himself. Through the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit, God grants a new heart and faith, enabling the sinner to turn to Christ for salvation. This truth highlights the depth of God’s mercy and the power of His grace in saving those who are otherwise unable and unwilling to come to Him."

Is there no depth to which you will not stoop?

If God could keep original sin from Mary, why couldn't he do it with Jesus? I see no reason for inventing the doctrine of the immaculate conception/ And If God can save her thru "preservative redemption, without the need for a savior. why not just save us all that way?

Warren I have a particular understanding regarding this issue. Is there a time that I could run it by you and get your thoughts?

Hey warren, I was till 1:23 or so, It said in isaiah 53 “… to crush Him” so it does say God crushed him, what you are strong refuting, but there it actually literally says it. What would you say of that. Than you say if we repent and he forgives we are still prisoners of the grave, still ready for hell I suppose, can you explain more how you understand that Jesus solved that problem? About 1 cor 12:3 it seems that those who hold that doctrine you refute say Jesus was for a MOMENT accursed, not present time, they quite surely would never say Jesus is accursed as in the present.. I think that makes a whole lot of difference, so I’m not persuaded by you (if your allowed to persuade me :) ) by that quote. But the rest I listen sharply to and I try to get it, and be berean. Using the words “you suck” I don’t get it.. it’s meaning is pretty bad, I just googled to meaning to be sure I have not a wrong understanding of it myself. Is there a teacher out there who lays out clearly what Jesus worked on the cross? Or do you have a teaching on it? I’m not Calvinist but in this subject I had more something like RC is telling.. I read commentary on Bible hub and I see some non Calvinist have a similar view I think. I’ve now not mad my mind yet, I’m just in it.

Your obsession with calvinism is embarrasing and it makes you look pathetic

5:27 5:28 Personally, I don't follow Steven Lawson, nor am I reformed. But he committed sin in a way that extended past himself. It effects all of us who believe the Bible, so he should not teach from the pulpit. If he does, he proves to me that he doesn't take the teachings of the Bible seriously. I definitely will not listen to him. Just sit down and remain silent Steve.

Threatened by the girls family Nothing like good ol fashion “Christian “ extortion to go along with the “Christian “ gossip and defamation

Surely if God knows if a person will be saved or damned before creating them, this must essentially mean he predetermines their destination.

im sorry mr killer but you remind me of Nicodemus and having no clue what you are talking about . dont feel bad Jesus finally lets him know what he is really talking about which was spiritual vs physical. you are totally clueless like Nico . or like the woman qt the well about the water. you are so far off its not even funny. sad really. maybe one day Jesus will finally let you know as well what really going on.

Doesn't the phrase "Eternity Past" preclude the existence of the Biblical phrase "In the Beginning" Doesn't God DECREEING anything at all PRODUCE a event that divides a prior state from a subsequent state?

Matthew 3:17 And a voice came from heaven saying this is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. So all of the sudden He dams His Son ( God His one and only Son).

Honest Calvinist alter call with appropriate music. 😅

1:59:19 maybe people leaving Protestantism for good reasons and not EO "poaching" anyone.

a dead man spiritually can not make himself alive. regenerat6ion always proceeds faith and belief. esph is quite clear.

tried to watch your show but your music stinks and smells of brimstone😕😕😕

Augustine/calvin lies

1 John 5.1 KJV 1 "Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him." Faith, which produces the act of believing, is here said explicitly not to occur until one is regenerated, or born from above. One must be "begotten of Him" in order to believe in Him and to love the person in whom also a good work has been begun. Believing simply cannot be 'done' until brought about by the working of the Holy Spirit, and this only happens as Christ is revealed to that person.

as if God needs us to protect his Godness..... sounds pretty humble.....smh

Funny enough, Tolkien was good friends with CS Lewis, and neither of them agreed with Calvinism. The author analogy is so illogical for their explanation.