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@Toasteatscats
@Toasteatscats Ай бұрын
Ive come back to this every now and then for years. Incredibly powerful words, his depth of care for that woman and woman like her is palpable in them.
@calebcarpenter913
@calebcarpenter913 2 ай бұрын
Yup.
@InfoLunix
@InfoLunix 4 ай бұрын
0:50
@emilystardawnn
@emilystardawnn 9 ай бұрын
I always return to this video when Jesus brings me back to the hurt of His people, and how He loves no matter. No matter economic status, no matter history, no matter story, He loves. He loves and He loves and He loves. What a King of redemption and a King to know. What a savior. Hallelujah. What a friend in Jesus we have.
@arthurdevrome8925
@arthurdevrome8925 Жыл бұрын
Its Gods crown right to self exalt. 💫
@KittyKat-ky5us
@KittyKat-ky5us Жыл бұрын
Now that man is a true Christian
@larry1824
@larry1824 Жыл бұрын
Gee........................
@pipkinrahl7264
@pipkinrahl7264 Жыл бұрын
Why you should care about Calvinism. It’s doctrines are not Biblical 1)Calvinism = Men are unable to choose God *** Christianity = “Choose you this day whom ye will serve” Joshua 24:15 2) Calvinism = Salvation by lottery *** Christianity = For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. Galatians 3:26 3) Calvinism = Christ died for the elect *** Christianity = “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world.” John 1:29 4) Calvinism = You are a puppet with no free will *** Christianity = “ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye.” Acts 7:51 5) Calvinism = Once Saved, Always Saved *** Christianity = “that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith” 1 Timothy 4:1 Of course, Calvinists have excuses for every one of these points. They will twist Scripture in many ways to justify their unBiblical theology. Calvinism has crept into mainstream Christianity in many ways, most notably in point number 5, taking away any responsibility from the Christian to keep the faith which is the only condition in the promise of Salvation. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16 But why should anyone care? “For I am the LORD, I change not;” Malachi 3:6 Changing the nature of God in such a fundamental way means you are no longer worshiping the God of the Bible. This fact has eternal consequences. Do not be deceived by those who post the likes of Pink, Sproul, and others. Study the Bible, Look to Christ, not to Calvin.
@PhoenixRiseinFlame
@PhoenixRiseinFlame Жыл бұрын
Change the gender roles and see if Chandler is as charitable to the man having an extramarital affair with a woman.
@stvnhr
@stvnhr Жыл бұрын
This guy is of the world. It's like a TEdTalk, is it not? He is not a preacher of truth. Pragmatism and entertainment.
@stvnhr
@stvnhr Жыл бұрын
This guy is questionable at best, unqualified probably, and definitely without self control.
@darthchungus-y7w
@darthchungus-y7w Жыл бұрын
The Christ Cuck in his full glory
@beanbag345
@beanbag345 Жыл бұрын
I'd like this again and again, if I could. Jesus wants the broken, Jesus wants the used, Jesus wants the hurting, Jesus wants you, if you're reading this or even if you're not. He gave Himself that all who would believe in Him would be saved. Oh the grace and the mercy of God!!
@KenMasters.
@KenMasters. Жыл бұрын
You have to be foolish to think everyone is equal to God.
@fitzwangadalla4641
@fitzwangadalla4641 2 жыл бұрын
Cringe Simpness
@achilles1191
@achilles1191 2 жыл бұрын
Matt trying to get that rose himself lol
@steflondon88
@steflondon88 Жыл бұрын
You sick. No he isn’t …
@myself047
@myself047 2 жыл бұрын
So basically, a Man who sleeps around is a "player" or a "stud" but somehow a Female is a "Flower"....Hmmm, definetly makes sense.
@guzlemuzle
@guzlemuzle 2 жыл бұрын
how it works dude
@steflondon88
@steflondon88 Жыл бұрын
You seriously missed the point of the video / excerpt.
@xxpurplexxrosexx
@xxpurplexxrosexx 2 жыл бұрын
This is so incredibly toxic and slut shaming
@katlegomolokoe4437
@katlegomolokoe4437 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. True joy and peace is found in God alone.
@Stew91
@Stew91 2 жыл бұрын
"JESUS WANTS THE ROSE!" Powerful!
@topherkingz8546
@topherkingz8546 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!
@love_is_sacrifice9414
@love_is_sacrifice9414 2 жыл бұрын
When you realize that everyone is that rose, not just people who did specific sin. "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God." - Romans 3:23
@CadillacBunner
@CadillacBunner 2 жыл бұрын
Sad that this is just an ad to buy more of his religious stuff. That is why evangelicalism has died.
@rowenarinku8435
@rowenarinku8435 2 жыл бұрын
How would congregation react if story went like this. I had a male friend who was having an affair with a married woman. I used to babysit the married woman's kids (while she had the affair with my friend) as I wanted them to treat me as a non judgmental friend. My friend came to church and the pastor that day spoke about Herod beheading John the Baptist because he called him out on his adulterous affair. I squirmed because I knew my friend was sleeping with a married woman. How dare the pastor condemn adultery? He should talk about redemption. God loves the rose. My friend is the rose. What does it matter if he was committing adultery. It is not the pastor's job to make people feel bad about their sin. How dare he make a sermon like that? You do not call out on adultery. You only talk about redemption. Talk about salvation and redemption BUT please do NOT call people out on their sin. Please do not make people FEEL bad about sin.
@rowenarinku8435
@rowenarinku8435 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus wants the rose. Is this just women? Or does the rose include men? Everyday there are so many men who are unemployed, alcoholics, drug abusers, divorced. Would love to hear a message that told the men that Jesus loves them too even when they fail. Even if a man is actively committing adultery. Even if a man is refusing to pay child support and alimony. Even if a man is watching porn. Jesus loves this man too. Jesus loves the rose. Yes - that includes men too. If you are a man reading this and you have messed up - Jesus loves you, Jesus wants you and yes! Jesus saves you just as he does women who have messed up. Yes - Jesus does love the rose.
@MrJCMG
@MrJCMG 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! This is powerful. It's a real pity that there aren't more pastors speaking out in this way.
@andrewvasquez2164
@andrewvasquez2164 3 жыл бұрын
I cried , thank you
@vuyiswa-fumba
@vuyiswa-fumba 3 жыл бұрын
So many tears 🥺
@johndon2571
@johndon2571 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus does want the 🌹 but redemption wasn't the topic, sex was.
@DMWayne-ke7fl
@DMWayne-ke7fl 3 жыл бұрын
Simp.
@asfmjht334
@asfmjht334 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus takes the brokenness and makes them whole!
@marahreyes6881
@marahreyes6881 3 жыл бұрын
This message moved me, I’m almost in tears. Powerful powerful!
@grantarmbruster6591
@grantarmbruster6591 3 жыл бұрын
this man admits the sin of murder and proclaims it is good.......
@TryphenaWade
@TryphenaWade 3 жыл бұрын
That whole rose demonstration is literally the basis for purity culture. That’s how the church scares women away from any type of intimacy and it haunts women, even into marriage. It must stop! Thank you for this!
@jessmanns3841
@jessmanns3841 3 жыл бұрын
I got a tattoo with a withering rose that says Jesus wants the rose
@Mrfireface2
@Mrfireface2 2 жыл бұрын
That's such a lovely idea.
@chrismcdevitt7814
@chrismcdevitt7814 3 жыл бұрын
People get dechurched not because of not getting what they want, rather watching people preach the word of god, and live a life of sin. I would say hypocrisy plays a big factor.
@jesusiskingofmyheart
@jesusiskingofmyheart 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus wants the rose! SO powerful ❤️
@KyDanielle
@KyDanielle 3 жыл бұрын
I walked away from christianity at age 12. It was natural for me. I was young but not stupid.
@Cicadidaetm9899
@Cicadidaetm9899 3 жыл бұрын
I personally don't believe in god (I've had some difficult experiences growing up in the church and I'm queer) but this does make me feel. I completely understand where this man's anger comes from, especially towards a man who is condemning those who are broken and wounded, not even necessarily of their own volition. Victims of sexual assault may want to turn to religion to help heal, and while i personally don't believe it, i do understand and respect the rights of others to believe in whatever gods or texts they want. But if someone's first impression of christianity is THIS. Fearmongering and talking about purity like it's something completely necessary in order to get an eternity in paradise are inherently against the gospel itself. Jesus accepts anyone and everyone who calls him their savior, and saying that you have to be "pure" is just not true in the slightest.
@cami7026
@cami7026 3 жыл бұрын
Ugh I wish I could give you a hug right not. I’m sorry for everything you’ve gone through and I hope it’s not too pushy for me to say that God, and we, all love you. You are 100% on point about how fearmongering and toxic purity culture goes completely against Jesus’s teachings. Jesus sat with sinners with no regards to their past, and we should be able to do the same.
@edwardmiessner6502
@edwardmiessner6502 3 жыл бұрын
No that idiot pastor was alienating people like the single mum that Matt Chandler brought with him. Now take Matt's point about Jesus wanting the rose and the idiot pastor saying the opposite and take a good look at mainstream Evangelical teaching that we gays have to change our sexual orientation in order to be saved. Yeah I know y'all will deny it to the skies but that's how you guys come off. It's like telling a white rose that they have to become red to be accepted into a bouquet of roses!
@mikeguzman1700
@mikeguzman1700 3 жыл бұрын
I'll leave it as needing to desire God only
@johnbiven4472
@johnbiven4472 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a pastor who baby sits for a woman that uses her free time to have an extra marital affair and then getting mad when a preacher urges people to follow gods sexual law.
@EmissariesoftheGospel
@EmissariesoftheGospel 3 жыл бұрын
And then admitting to murdering a man in his heart in the middle of his sermon Just prior to him going on to virtue signal and Jesus Juke this pastor that he's referring to, who was sing from the whole counsel of God and making a legitimate conclusion regarding the consequences of rampant sexual immorality.
@steflondon88
@steflondon88 Жыл бұрын
Y’all need to look in the mirror, Matt chandler loves Jesus and isn’t a perfect god figure. Like you haven’t made any mistakes?
@steflondon88
@steflondon88 Жыл бұрын
He is not against following gods law (maybe slow down on the pride & misinterprations);,,,,, he’s against damaging/crushing people who have left trauma and their past,,, who are trying to find Jesus… Jesus didn’t win peoples hearts through condemnation or crushing them - but the Pharisees sure talked that way “you don’t wanna sipholus do ya?” That’s something they would have said ; the holier than thou types - whereas Jesus favours the man who beats his breast and says Lord I am such a wretched sinner help me !
@lisaosborne8057
@lisaosborne8057 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know what happened to the woman
@karrot8221
@karrot8221 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Tiktok for introduceing me to this sermon
@Analyticalinadream
@Analyticalinadream 4 жыл бұрын
The basics of the faith! Yes! Jesus wants the rose.
@naom1720
@naom1720 4 жыл бұрын
"Jesus wants the rose" wow.
@_p0seur
@_p0seur 4 жыл бұрын
wow....this gives me chills...this is actually one of the main reasons i left the catholic church as such a young age. this preaching of everything that jesus was created to destroy. JESUS WANTS TO ROSE! HE WANTS ALL OF US. THIS WAS HIS POINT! JESUS WANTS US, SINNERS OR NOT. HE WAS SENT TO ALLEVIATE US SO LONG AS WE WALK IN HIS STEPS. LIVE AS JESUS. and to live as jesus is to love....to love regardless of sin. regardless of difference of opinion. To know when there is wrong and to change for YOURSELF. not for the church. but change for YOU. JESUS WANTS THE ROSE
@zacharyharris633
@zacharyharris633 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I hear and feel Matt's anger and frustration, and likely Kim's pain, in the shame-only gospel-void message as he recalls heard it at the concert. Can we also do an empathy exercise from a different perspective on this story? Let's call the married man whom Kim was having an affair with "Jim" and his wife "Jane", and let's imagine Jane watching this clip. At 1:10 she hears, with something of a chuckle in his voice, that Matt served as baby-sitter to Kim during the time period in which she and Jim were in an ongoing sexual relationship. "I wonder," Jane very well might think, "if the baby-sitting that Matt and his generous Christian friends provided helped give Kim more time to sleep with my husband?" Next, Jane hears the manner in which these Christian men discussed the matter of adultery with Kim. In what sounds like soft, positive and encouraging, non-judgmental tones, Jane learns that Matt "talked through the wisdom" of Kim getting naked in bed with Jane's husband, and that they went about "just kind of serving her and trying to explain to her spiritual things." Jane can hear Matt chatting with Kim, "Are you sure that having sex with another woman's husband is the WISEST thing you could be doing?" As Jane's heart is cut with the inexpressibly painful reminders of her husband's infidelity, she notes that Matt does not use the word "horrific", or anything similar, to describe Jim and Kim's adultery. Jane also notes that Matt's teeth-clenching anger (3:06) at the concert preacher does not seem to arise in like manner in connection with the deep and painful damage that Jim and Kim inflicted upon Jim and Jane's sacred one-flesh union. I could very well hear the grating of dissonance in Jane's heart if it were to say, "So the concert messager incited 'real, legitimate, I want to hurt him anger' in you, but while speaking of the irony of your own baby-sitting service for the woman who was giving herself for my husband to go inside of, a mere chuckle rises up?" It breaks my heart to imagine the concert scene from Kim's perspective. It also breaks my heart to think of this clip from Jane's perspective. And if I try to view my sin from Christ's perspective... who would've imagined that such shame and disgust could intermingle with such joy, love, freedom, and liberty? I do not believe I could give a more empathetically wholistic sermon than Matt Chandler. The point is not to bash him. The point, I suppose, is this: who is up to the incredibly difficult, impossible task of loving sinners with adequate gospel love, while adequately hating the sinfulness of sin accounting for all the destructiveness it spreads out upon multiple people in multiple ways, while upholding the offense against the impeccable holiness of God our Creator and King, and while adequately expressing the luxurious and lavish mercy, grace, and kindness of the Prodigal Father? I'm certainly not up to the task. With due respect I don't think that Matt Chandler is either. But praise be to Jesus, the Lion and the Lamb, the Judge and the Scapegoat, who is our all in all!
@lydiamill
@lydiamill 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to see that the root cause of Jane's hurt is not Kim sleeping with a married man. It that the married man is Jim. Jim was the one to make a vow before God that he would be faithful to Jane. Kim can decide if she wants to participate in Jim's infidelity. However, even if Kim removes herself from the situation, that does not mean Jim is going to go back to being faithful to Jane; he could find another lover. While Kim may know she is aiding in Jim's adultery, Kim did not break Jim and Jane's wedding vows, because she never vowed anything. Jim did. Jim is the one who needs to answer to Jane for his infidelity.
@zacharyharris633
@zacharyharris633 4 жыл бұрын
@@lydiamill Those are true and worthwhile points you have made which help to provide a fuller perspective as we think through the most significant aspects of such a situation. My comments above have the particular focus they do because I'm (ultimately) trying to make observations directly on the video clip of Matt Chandler's sermon itself. Granted, I did have to introduce "Jim" and "Jane" into the story, and Jane's perspective on Kim's participation in Jim's adultery, but all of that was for the (somewhat roundabout) purpose of noting how parts of *Mr. Chandler's message itself* could come across from an outside perspective (e.g. Jane's). So, when Mr. Chandler quotes the concert preacher as saying, "Now who would want this?" the words of the unnamed preacher grieve my heart. But also when Mr. Chandler speaks of Kim, "actually in an extra-marital affair at the time with a married man," the tone and body language of Mr. Chandler himself also grieves my heart. And when Mr. Chandler describes some of his discussion with Kim as "talking through the wisdom of" participating in an adulterous affair, that also grieves my heart. So I brought "Jane" in to help describe why my heart grieves at certain points of Mr. Chandler's message. I certainly agree that "Jim is the [primary] one who needs to answer to Jane for his infidelity" as far as the situation itself would be concerned, it's just that that (incredibly important) point didn't need to be drawn out in order to explain my reaction to aspects of Mr. Chandler's presentation in the video clip itself. I hope that makes sense. Now, it occurs to me that you could likewise say that your comment was motivated by grief in your heart while reading the original Zach Harris comment, sensing in it a lack of attentiveness to the primacy of Jim's grievous culpability in sinning against his wife, and such. In which case, yes, yes, I would see your point.
@erikfantasia9985
@erikfantasia9985 4 жыл бұрын
The problem of God's self exaltation is really easy to answer when we keep the doctrine of the Trinity. Looking at the claims of Jesus and the Biblical writers, we have a picture of how the members of the Trinity glorify one another. So while the ONE GOD glorifies Himself, He can do this without selfish ambition because of the fact that He is Three Persons.
@tylerbrown2772
@tylerbrown2772 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t wanna put god in the boring category but I don’t wanna worry and be scared everyday so that’s why I’d rather do things that make me happy like watching football or any entertainment and doing sports myself like just doing hobbies that make me happy but praying to Jesus while I’m making myself happy with them hobbies. It’s not as simple as dying and going to heaven it’s all that stuff like tribulation judgment That stress me out and scare the crap out me and I do t wanna live In fear rather just pray and talk to Jesus while living
@adongo8226
@adongo8226 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing this today for the first time