unpopular opinion ....youtubers are not filmmakers most of this are may be helpful but not for KZbin, most of people i watch on KZbin have a 10 year old camera but they got things to say... hope you find your path mate. shinobi ii is a good solution on settings touch on a monitor and mounting the mic with a clamp on the side of your top handle or at your right side handle.... left handle seems useless :)

Great perspective Thanks for sharing transparently

Sometimes it feels like rigging cameras is an activity that is completely disjointed from actually working with video. It's fun, but it's an incredibly inefficient way to make a mirrorless camera do stuff that true video cameras do out of the box. All your gripes come from the fact that you're using a mirrorless camera. Even more accessible true video cameras like a Sony FS5 don't have those issues. You can use both LCD and external monitor, buttons on the side that don't get blocked, long battery life, no rigging required.

Good stuff. I'll probably end up with a cheaper tripod when the need for one arises. circa £600 for a tripod with this many cons is not money well spent. I'd rather get some other gear that's gonna transform my workflow, or maybe put that money towards a Sennheiser 416, perhaps new glass. This thing weighs the same as my NEEWER which was only about £150, and with all the cons you mentioned it's not worth it in my humble opinion.

I was just about to buy all this stuff I dndt really need. I found out I can do all that with just camera, gimbal, some VNDs, and charging battery. For mics I use DJI mics . For wedding, quinceañeras .

These things are like a mix of LEGO bricks and pokemons. You can build anything you want, and for sure you want to get them all. There are three issues with this: 1. It costs a lot. I mean a small piece of metal with holes in it costs 50 dollars. 2. Weight really adds up fast and that can be tough for your back if you shoot handheld or on a gimbal. 3. If you change cameras, around 25% of your rig becomes obsolete. The cage for sure, but also other small accessories that were useful on the old camera and now you need something else. All in all I have a huge box full of rigging accessories and I only use a third of them. Just like a kid's LEGO stash.

Great video. Thank you 🙏

I'm rigging my A6700. I'm old and my eye sight has deteriorated. So I got a 5.5" monitor. I don't like the hdmi cable I got. What cables are you using? I'm not going with a battery. I'm curious about mat box. What matbox did you get? You should list your build in the description

sounds like largely a Sony problem mate, a lot of the issues you talked about I dont have with my bmpcc rig, maybe that camera is just better for rigging out than sony, but I've found it so much of an improvement, I'm able to get a follow focus, monitor, vmount, shotgun mic and quick release tripod plate on my rig and it improves the usability and ergonimics drastically, also the weight is important due to a lack of ibis

good points and a much needed conversation, i think rigs are great for corporate/wedding shoots.. Especially for longer days - the vmount helps a lot. Monitor helps for cinema lens/mf. Would dial it to the body and lens when doing personal shoots.

I agree, I started down that path and then took a step back . Just learning better skills to pan better with a tripod instead of buying a $800 geared pan head has taught me a lot. I’m taking it slow, only buy what I absolutely need.

Honestly this just seems like a byproduct of professional style equipment being accessible to consumers and some folks don’t realize that if you’re just shooting family trips, you don’t need ANYTHING besides a cheap mirrorless and a kit lens. I would only invest in cinema focused rigs and accessories if I’m getting or planning to get paid. When money comes into play that’s when things like matte boxes, ND, v mount etc comes into play. Personally for myself, I wouldn’t show up to any set without a rig. One of my cameras is a box style cinema cam and the other is a mirrorless that’s useless without a rig. I have at minimum one AC and one gaffer. I need timecode ports for sound. I need Sdi ports for video txs. I need monitors for critical focus and framing. matte box for 4x5 filters. But again it’s because it’s my use case. I think what almost every KZbinr fails to mention is that different use cases require different tools. KZbinrs are too busy getting sponsorships so they push whatever hype train is currently leaving the station and a bunch of folks who truly won’t make films past a hobbyist level get sucked into it and think they need all these things. If you’re not getting paid and your not consistently having to support crew as part of your workflow, u can get by with less than 3k worth of gear tbh.

Dam should’ve got a FX6

Good video. I think a lot of creators see the truth of rigs once it's too late. Most of the functionality of your camera is IN your camera. A cage, a matte box, rails, a top handle, etc. don't make your image different. It would be nice if rigging weren't such a common pitch since it doesn't "Supercharge You Camera" or "Make Your Camera a Cinema Camera"

Who designed this mess.

When I built out my fx3 rig, I ran out of money before I got a v-mount and battery plate.... My work around is funny, when mounted on a tripod I plug everything into a Jackery battery hanging from the tripod. It's funny because it works just fine for power and weighs down the whole rig on the tripod. (I promise I'll take care of that before going to my next gig)

If you wait for a sale you can grab that tripod and head for $600

Get a cage. Strip it down for simple shoots & build it up for complicated shoots. I have a cage that fits around my battery grip.

"Camera rigs makes you look like a pro"? :) Oh, that's why there are so many noobs rigging cameras for no reason :)

For the screen issue when my rig is on a tripod I mount the battery upside down on the rails, so I can see and use the camera screen along with a top mounted monitor.

Haha I fight this fight all the time …I’m preparing to do a solo film project where I’m in front and behind the camera and I’m finding this whole setup too cumbersome to still be creative and not slowed down to get my shots… so now my setup is for client shoots and bragging points only hahahah

Great video. Very much needed perspective.

I’ve never used Sony but my free world screen doesn’t black on my a screen

The screen going black is a Sony problem

Great topic. What’s up fellow Boyd! 🤝

thanks to show the set up progress! Do you think is better this one even if it is hard to mount or better the SMALLRIG Softbox LA-D85 ?

Excellent video! So true. I should’ve watched before I rigged mine out. 😅

Rigs are stupid clunky take forever to put together and take appart u cant store them all done up and they are heavy. Everything i dont want on a job, fuck "looking" professional i could care less how i look see the final product then we can talk! Im selling the final product not how i look making the final product. You morons worry about the dumbest shit. Worry about ur skills not how u look smh

Good video but I film naked with my cams 😂 FX6 & ZVE1 🎥 but maybe one day I will rig up my FX6 😉👍🏻

Rig only what's necessary for what you are shooting to get the job done. Be practical, lol..... For run and gun, I keep the mic on the camera, audio is super important to me. I recently stopped using an external monitor all the time and only use it when I can't use the screen on the camera. Rigs look cool, and it is great for clients to see at the shoot, but they can over complicate things. As stated, rig only what's needed. Great vid, I just sub'd to your channel!

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10:27 This is it!!!!

Monitor and mic is definitely one of my issues where I considered selling my cineeback for.

I make 4k month ad a videographer. All i use is a gimbal and if its off the gimbal its on the tripod with a cage and handle to support a usb battery pack. Camera rig 100% not needed.

Rigging is like legos for adults, its easy to get carried away with it I definitely recommend putting time into thinking about how it rigs out before shoots, better to trial and error it when you have down time and not when in a rush on set But its also important to keep it simple, at a certain point you deck a camera out to be more trouble than its worth..if its holding you back then you've gone too far Currently the most I use my camera for is shooting a youtubers videos and her style is typically very controlled and locked down on sticks, so my rig is pretty decked out with dual 7" recorders, a wireless feed, a follow focus, and a vmount but it's totally impractical for just about anything that isnt locked down in a studio Gotta build it out for what the job requires And there is nothing wrong with keeping it super slimmed down, mirrorless cameras can still be amazing with nothing but a lens and a filter

I rarely fully rig-out my camera anymore . I pretty much had to with my BMPCC4K. Since switching to Sony, I mainly run the basics. I use an external monitor sometimes. But if it's a big client shoot, I put everything on there just for show.

I look at one of your 'negatives' as probably the biggest 'positive' of a rig - increasing camera weight and size - if you do any amount of hand-held shooting (much of what I do...). Taking away the micro-jitters and giving you better more comfortable ergonomic grips/handles for prolonged shooting is huge. If you shoot mostly on sticks or with a gimbal then those advantages disappear of course.

Story of my life. I practically bought everything. From expensive side handles, mattebox, Ninja V, different ND filters, drones, and three closets filled with accessories that I no longer need. And I am not into professional work. I just shoot for pleasure, mostly family trips. Shit that I don't need. Now I have trimmed down my setup. Use the Tilta top flag instead of the mattebox for simplicity, it's easy to attach and detach. My ninja v remains useful, because I have terrible eyesight. It's crazy how KZbin merchants help market things to that you think you need but absolutely don't. Sold most of my lens and just left three boxes of my vintage lens collections. Hopefully, the price will appreciate more and those too will go.

Great perspective.. i used to be like you and i realized the same thing. I own ZVE1 and now i only have the cage for my camera because sony body is made of hard plastic. Just a little extra protection. I no longer put anything else as the heavier the rigging the less i shoot. That is not good. So i’m taking minimalist style.

Great video subbed up 🔥

I guess it depends on your rig. My shoulder rig for my FX3 has made shooting way easier and more enjoyable for me. I find it more comfortable to shoot with my cam on my shoulder than in my hands in front of me. The vmount is attached to the shoulder pad and balances the weight. The set up is big but it works.

You know what I hate that Sony changed on their cameras, and correct me if I'm wrong, but they removed the removable battery door and dummy battery wire hatch. My broke A7III has it but not my A7SIII or my A7RV or A1. Now I always have to have the door open all of the time. It's not the end of the world but I don't want it open all the time where it can get damaged or in the way of things on a few occasions.

If you remove the side handle on the right side and use the actual camera's grip then you'll be able to reach the buttons. I had the same issue you described of not being able to reach custom buttons because of the cage above the grip, but I got a rhinoceros cage from Smallrig without that part, which solved that issue for me. It also makes the grip bigger if you need that to replace the side handle I recommended that you remove. Personally, I use a clean feed to my monitor and then fold my screen to the side of the v mount batter when I'm not using it. The extra step of folding it out to view settings or touch to track autofocus is annoying but I find it to be acceptable since the monitor gives me a bigger brighter screen over the one on my camera. I hope that helps! Noah

Thank Osias for this COMPREHENSIVE video. I agree with everything you say. The section that has NEVER been MENTIONED in other people’s videos is why the mic & the external monitor have never been shown together on a rig. Now, you tell me it’s because that will make the rig looks very big. Yes, I will learn how to use my camera completely before trying to build a rig.

As someone who built my DIY rig, I can assure you wouldn't believe how easy it is to make your own rig that's actually usable. Use aluminium tubing and spark plug clamps for the rails. Buy a used up but professional follow focus, replace bearings, add a whip from a steel wire. Use Makita 14.4V batteries instead of V mount. Dtap can be added, but you can use jack connector if you have a soldering iron.. It all look professional as long as you paint it black. I made a handle of polymer clay, with a pasta machine to make it pretty. You can make it precisely fit your hand. There are also cheap cnc parts that are used to build machines. They are quite affoardable and can be used to make clamps and angle joints. There is one guy, who got a cheap rucksack, a winch with a crank and turned it into an easyrig for $100. The first time I saw a shoulder rig and heard the price, I realised that there's no way I'll drop so much on something this uncomfortable and simple. I still like camera cages, but a lot can be substituted with something without that film gear tax.

The look of your shot is immaculate !

For me, building out a rig is a creative solution for the handheld look. Extra weight helps me focus less on micro jitters and more on my composition and story telling. I love this insight and I appreciate you telling the other side of the story. New subscriber *

I think the problem is that unless you're on a set, you don't really need to rig out your camera. Most mirrorless cameras have everything you need right on the camera. And it's not really difficult to put filters on your lenses, it's just a few seconds to screw them on. And it's not that difficult to carry three or four batteries, and just swap out your battery real quick. I think people get completely consumed with gear, but they never think of actually making art. Or even if they are looking to do corporate work, or weddings, or stuff like that, they just create this gigantic barrier of getting the exact gear that they think they need to do these things that they will probably never do because they actually need this distraction to stop them from actually using their camera that has incredible capability just all by itself. I think this is a great video, because I think it will make people think, why am I even thinking about rigging up my camera? :-) Most monitors are really good on these new cameras, it's so easy to put an inexpensive microphone right on the cold shoe or hot shoe on the top of your camera, or use an inexpensive lavalier mic plugged into something like a zoom h1n, or grab something like a hollyland lark max for just over $100 if you just get one channel, I think this is all distraction keeping people from doing what they're really afraid of actually doing. Telling stories. Great video, thanks so much for sharing.

all these manufactures and clowns on salary like Caleb doesn't care how those parts will work and make your shooting easier. they just want to make money) rigging up a7s can be more expensive than just go and buy fx6. so that's the point? than i see heavily rigged mirrorless i immediately understand - this is not a professional guy

Great video. Learning our own equipment is key. When you rig your camera it’s like a new camera. On jobs a rig is sometimes for me required, I need to weigh my camera down because I have no IBIS. V mount battery is important which is honestly the main reason I’m rigged out the matte box is for outdoor use for me when with clients. These are tools and you use your tools to get the job done. In my experience I having a rigged out camera with clients is important because you set a standard. It’s like a suit to an interview especially if they have gotten video work done before. Lastly you do what makes the job easier for you. If You have snow tires when it snows put the snow tires on!! I keep my cage on my camera because I do both video and stills long rant but great topic and points!!